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You're forgetting that not all bisexuals fall in love with both genders/sexes yet they are still bisexual. You don't have to fall in love or have what the APA calls "emotional or affectional attractions" to both sexes/genders to be bisexual.
Why are you bringing up pirate costumes or diapers? That's a total moot point and makes no sense at all as these are kinks and are not related to sexual orientation at all.
Despite all of this if a person is engaging in consensual sex with people of the
same sex/gender they are not heterosexual or straight by definition even if they want to be, wish that they really were heterosexual/straight, use the self label excuse, or self identify as heterosexual or straight when they are clearly not.
There's a saying that if you repeat a lie so often it becomes a truth in your own mind only and this is what people who are closeted and on the DL are trying to do even if it does not work that way when it comes to sexual orientation.
Bisexuals have no interest in coming out? WTF kind of bisexuals do you know? Or do you mean people on this site who are closeted and on the DL?
All of the male and female bisexuals I am friends with and who I've had
relationships with and who I know from bisexual discussion groups are out about being bisexual and they are not closeted or on the DL. Even most bisexuals who I have met online aside from the ones on this site which I've just joined are out and proud about who they are and are not closeted and on the DL like lots of the people on this site are. Then of course the people on here who are on the DL and closeted and vocal on this site say how society and even heterosexuals, lesbians, and gay men somehow do not like, accept, or understand bisexuals yet they are not out and do not even try to tell anyone else or educate anyone else about bisexuality and you do not see straight people or gay men or lesbians acting this way about their sexuality.
Perhaps it's only the vocal closeted and DL bisexuals on this site who you are
writing about when you say that they are somehow louder or somehow more prevalent because this is an internet site? The ones here on this site that make up and give excuses out of fear and disinterest and claim that it's somehow their right to stay closeted and on the DL because coming out of the closet is somehow telling other people about their sex life and their sexuality is nobody else's business when all of their excuses about why they need to stay closeted and on the DL are not true at all.
What I wrote about how if we bisexuals want more respect, visiBIlity, political power, recognition, and equality we have to be out and come out is true. Nothing is going to change for bisexuals or GLBT people if people stay complacent, apathetic, and stay closeted and on the DL and claim that it's somehow their "right" to stay closeted because their sexuality is nobody's business and coming out is somehow telling others about their personal sex life when it's not and these are just excuses to avoid coming out.
Most Heterosexuals know what it means to be gay and many do know what it means to be bisexual but are still very biphobic while gays and lesbians are not biphobic and are allies to bisexuals.
Where did I say that people who are closeted or on the DL are confused?
They know that they are not heterosexual and they are hiding in fear out of self loathing.
Granted yes people who are closeted and on the DL do wind up compartmentalizing their sexuality and doing some very fucked up things to themselves and the people who they love but they are not confused about their sexuality and do this stuff on purpose.
Men and women who are closeted or on the down low are not going to be out at all to their families or society, and are not publicly or politically vocal as much as out and proud bisexuals are because doing this would force them to come out.
Bisexuals who willingly stay on the DL or in the closet because of their own
selfish reasons, fears, apathy, or disintrest are hurting themselves and everyone else that's GLBT and out and proud and they give us all a bad name.
Yes there is a need for bisexuals to come out and to stop being on the DL and closeted even if those that are closeted and on the DL here are vocal about why it is best to stay in the closet, discreet, and on the DL about being bisexual.
Of course politics and being out as bisexual are connected, if everyone that is GLBT stayed in the closet or did nothing out of apathy and disinterest we bisexuals and GLBT people would have no rights or what limited equality we have now would not be here for us, and Conservatives would be in power and it would be a living hell compared to now when you're a 2nd class citizen and have been for the last 100 years if you are GLBT in America, compared to Heterosexuals and the rights they have that they take for granted.
People here will complain about political issues such as DADT, DOMA, passing ENDA but have any of you besides myself and a few others who are out actually written to the American president or other politicians and become visible and out as bisexual and told them how these policies need to change now and you want their support as a bisexual United States citizen?
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