bi married guys -- anyone have a regular "friend with benefits"?

[tenni]

Post 89
"Of course the day wouldn't be complete without your special brand of tunnel vision and misogyny."

Ah, yes I thought so. The reason that supposedly women like you and BV enter threads to cause disruption is because you believe that it is your right to do so. You show disrespect towards bisexual married men who were invited by the thread topic to state if they had a friend with benefits situation with another man.

You seem to consider it not only your right but it is misognistic for men to dare to have a thread to discuss friends with benefits without your approval and comment.

As others have stated you are not here to "learn" a damn thing. You and BV are exhibiting troll like behaviour on a bisexual website disrupting conversations about bisexuality. Whether you are misandrist or not is not that significant as much as how you both prevent open honest discourse in a bisexual web site. Well you tried to distrupt another bi male website and failed due to trying to pass yourself off as a man(posted not telling as gender) on a bisexual site restricted to bi men only. I guess that site is misogynist in your opinion even though it has a site for "bisexual women only" as well It also is owned by a woman who started the biwomen website first so that bi women would be able to discuss their issues without disruption or interference in a safe environment from hetero men who think two women together are hot. There is also a bisexual organization in Toronto that follow similar practice of bi men being able to meet on their own. Bi women being able to meet on their own. Then a joint meeting for both bi women and bi men together respecting each groups boundaries. In your mind, they are probably using tunnel vision and misogynist. This is not the 60's Vuil & BV. Catch up with the respect of boundaries and sensitivity aspect going not just one direction.

[Alloiledup]

Wow! Just signed on today again. I didn't know there were such heated discussions on this topic since I posted. Not that I owe anyone an explanation. In my case, my buddy cheated on his wife because first of all, he got practically zero sex from his wife after their 3rd child. She just completely lost interest in sex. He didn't want to cheat on her with another woman. Before their marriage when he was a teenager, he had played with other boys. It was just I guess a horny teenager kind of thing. He had so much guilt about cheating on his wife that he didn't want to see another woman. But humans in general are sexual beings. Most of us need sex physiologically and psychologically. So, given his little bit of background he had played with men before marriage and he didn't want to see another woman, he felt less of a guilt I guess trying out with men again. He ended up liking it even more than being with women. So, he became just by his sexual choices bisexual. He didn't want a divorce with his wife because he is a responsible father and the children were still young. That kinda of cheating on his wife went on for a number of years with men. He does enjoy being with men now. His children are grown up and married now too, and they often wonder why their loving father (please don't question on this one as his affairs with men have nothing to do with him being a responsible and loving father) have not yet divorced their crazy, freakishly controlling mother. But he cares so much that that family is together, his children and grandchildren that his decision is to stay married. If it sounds like I try to defend who he is, so be it. To me, he is a needle in a haystack and a wonderful man. We all have needs. He didn't want to fool around behind his wife and have an affair with another woman, he ended up playing with men, but ended up liking it. Anyway, that's his story. My point is everyone has his story behind an action. Don't judge!!! Should you believe in God, we are accountable for our actions on this earth and let him be the judge!!

[Vuillardgr]

Wow! Just signed on today again. I didn't know there were such heated discussions on this topic since I posted. Not that I owe anyone an explanation. In my case, my buddy cheated on his wife because first of all, he got practically zero sex from his wife after their 3rd child. She just completely lost interest in sex. He didn't want to cheat on her with another woman. Before their marriage when he was a teenager, he had played with other boys. It was just I guess a horny teenager kind of thing. He had so much guilt about cheating on his wife that he didn't want to see another woman. But humans in general are sexual beings. Most of us need sex physiologically and psychologically. So, given his little bit of background he had played with men before marriage and he didn't want to see another woman, he felt less of a guilt I guess trying out with men again. He ended up liking it even more than being with women. So, he became just by his sexual choices bisexual. He didn't want a divorce with his wife because he is a responsible father and the children were still young. That kinda of cheating on his wife went on for a number of years with men. He does enjoy being with men now. His children are grown up and married now too, and they often wonder why their loving father (please don't question on this one as his affairs with men have nothing to do with him being a responsible and loving father) have not yet divorced their crazy, freakishly controlling mother. But he cares so much that that family is together, his children and grandchildren that his decision is to stay married. If it sounds like I try to defend who he is, so be it. To me, he is a needle in a haystack and a wonderful man. We all have needs. He didn't want to fool around behind his wife and have an affair with another woman, he ended up playing with men, but ended up liking it. Anyway, that's his story. My point is everyone has his story behind an action. Don't judge!!! Should you believe in God, we are accountable for our actions on this earth and let him be the judge!!

You were the one who put your post up and when we do that, we invite replies. Now, I didn't say you had to explain anything. I understand he discovered he rather be with men, he claims he had a sexless marriage. I hear all that. You know what else I hear... reasons for him not to be honest with his wife about what he needed and what he was doing. He is gonna do whatever he wants to do. If he loves and respects his partner , he would have told her the truth. Judgement....no, that's just truth. You and several others can be as indignant and outraged as you like but there is no excuse for secrets and lies.

You are laying all of the issues and problems between your boyfriend and his wife squarely at her feet. But the hard truth is, it takes two to tango. Did you ever stop to think maybe she sensed something was off about their physical relationship and that caused her to take a step back? She is controlling, she is selfish, etc etc etc....yada yada. Meanwhile he is the victim who is free to lie about who he is and what he is doing. WTF?! I absolutely believe in God and since I do, I treat others as I want to be treated. And when we take vows to be truthful and respectful, we should be held to those. When does asking for mutual respect and being open equate to judgement?

So I'm judging because Im pointing out the fact that she is painted as the enemy and the cheater as the victim. BTW , Just because he is with you because you are a man doesn't mean that it isn't cheating. Gender has nothing to do with what is and isn't betrayal.

You two want to be together, more power to you ...I hope it works out in the long run, but make no mistake about it..... There is a shocking lack of respect and honesty in this scenario.

[Vuillardgr]

Post 89
"Of course the day wouldn't be complete without your special brand of tunnel vision and misogyny."

Ah, yes I thought so. The reason that supposedly women like you and BV enter threads to cause disruption is because you believe that it is your right to do so. You show disrespect towards bisexual married men who were invited by the thread topic to state if they had a friend with benefits situation with another man.

You seem to consider it not only your right but it is misognistic for men to dare to have a thread to discuss friends with benefits without your approval and comment.

As others have stated you are not here to "learn" a damn thing. You and BV are exhibiting troll like behaviour on a bisexual website disrupting conversations about bisexuality. Whether you are misandrist or not is not that significant as much as how you both prevent open honest discourse in a bisexual web site. Well you tried to distrupt another bi male website and failed due to trying to pass yourself off as a man(posted not telling as gender) on a bisexual site restricted to bi men only. I guess that site is misogynist in your opinion even though it has a site for "bisexual women only" as well It also is owned by a woman who started the biwomen website first so that bi women would be able to discuss their issues without disruption or interference in a safe environment from hetero men who think two women together are hot. There is also a bisexual organization in Toronto that follow similar practice of bi men being able to meet on their own. Bi women being able to meet on their own. Then a joint meeting for both bi women and bi men together respecting each groups boundaries. In your mind, they are probably using tunnel vision and misogynist. This is not the 60's Vuil & BV. Catch up with the respect of boundaries and sensitivity aspect going not just one direction.

There is no point trying to converse with someone who has little use for women and their feelings or opinions. You are completely transparent and heaven help any woman unfortunate enough to endure your company for any length of time. Or guy for that matter. Again since you can't deal with truth, put me on ignore . I see you still haven't done it yet. LMAO !!! I've heard about fits you pitch when you discover when other posters do it to you........ Like I said Tenni, your baseless, selfish diatribe won't deter me. I see what you are and it is weak and sad.

[Vuillardgr]

Look sweetheart, your trying to BS people who have a scroller bar on their screens. We can see where you came in the thread to complain to Alloiledup and then 'suggest' he keeps his opinion to himself, even though he is LIVING what the thread is about. Maybe the contentment there is too much of a good advert for 'cheating' for you? That's not Alloiledup's fault.

Neither of us know the details about all relationships where one decides it's better to cheat. You may say that it's NEVER better to cheat for ANYBODY. But sadly that isn't the case for all. Neither is it a mark of somebody who doesn't respect and love their partner. That's just not as easy to cut as it may seem for some.
Communication goes both ways, and as you may see by your own verssion of comunication, you try to cut out what goes against YOUR grain. So you could as yourself if it is wise for ALL to be honest with you, or tell you what you want to hear to keep you happy?

You actually suggested to Alloiledup NOT to be honest. Make up you mind!

I't might do you good to meet a cheater and have a COMMUNICATION with him/her. See how long that lasts for you before the Sermon on The Mount kicks in, and communication rides off into the mirky fog.

LOL of course!!!!! Just read my response to Tenni, it applies to you as well. Happy attacking and twisting! :-) lol

[Gearbox]

LOL of course!!!!! Just read my response to Tenni, it applies to you as well. Happy attacking and twisting! :-) lol

Oh whatever happenned to that honest Southern girl out to help her dear old friend? Save it for the tards that brought you here.

[tenni]

Oh whatever happened to that honest Southern girl out to help her dear old friend? Save it for the tards that brought you here.

Yes she does post like someone who is "sent" here to disturb the site and attack bisexuals.

[darkeyes]

"There is no point trying to converse with someone who has little use for women and their feelings or opinions."

I have little use for non bisexuals regardless of their gender who come to this site under the pretense of seeking help only to turn and attack bisexuals who have an opinion that does not align with their hetero mainstream beliefs.

"You were the one who put your post up and when we do that, we invite replies."

Another example of this opinionated hetero woman attacking a bisexual man for posting his thoughts on a bisexual site under a thread specifically identified for bisexual men. We do not want your prejudiced attack opinions. He did not invite you personally to respond. The thread topic is not for visiting heterosexual opinionated women. You act so much like a troll.

" I've heard about fits you pitch when you discover when other posters do it to you."

Ah, really now. You have heard about me? Obviously, you are here to attack me. Another sign of a troll.

This is a site open to all with an interest in bisexuality..no thread is barred to any member no matter his or her gender or his or her sexuality to comment upon... if u wish to keep all your little chinwags secret because u feel unsafe, tenni, I suggest that u create a group of selected members as u are able to do on this site and vet them very carefully and keep all your little deliberations secret by keeping daft cows like me out... we do not need an invite to comment on an open thread... as members, we have a right to comment if something is said we believe needs comment upon.

[welickit]

LTR is easier for us, we share and don't cheat on each other so it is more fun with someone you both know and enjoy. It is also safer for all involved.

[Vuillardgr]

Oh whatever happenned to that honest Southern girl out to help her dear old friend? Save it for the tards that brought you here.

Oh now you are insulting people you don't even know...actually , you do that every day here. Ever notice how you and tenni are the only ones who have a problem with what I've posted on this thread. What a coincidence right? You have no argument against truth so you go back to what you know best, insults and unfounded accusations.
Tell you what, why don't you save those little mindless gems for those nameless faceless men you suck and fuck at your local park and public bathroom gloryholes. You seem to be the type of individual that is more comfortable with those types of encounters. There is nothing wrong with being open and honest with one's partner. We all are duty bound to do so. Whether you agree with it or not. So if you have issues with me.... put me on ignore. I enjoy exchange of ideas, but you and a few others hate that. It's your way or no way. You attempt to throw your weight around with the ones who dare go against your self centered dogma. You insulted me and when that happens once, I over look it.... but you continue to do so...you have to ask yourself why.

Now why don't you just build your own little community of like minds and leave the rest of us that choose to consider others alone.

[Vuillardgr]

Yes she does post like someone who is "sent" here to disturb the site and attack bisexuals.

Oh you are absolutely correct... asking for honesty is a total attack on bisexuals! I am a horrible person who expects too much from people...like communication and knowing who they are. I am heinous! LMAO!! You are the attacker of bisexuals, you prove that with every single one of your posts. Again, put me on ignore ...that way, you don't have to deal with that nasty little thing called truth.

[Vuillardgr]

This is a site open to all with an interest in bisexuality..no thread is barred to any member no matter his or her gender or his or her sexuality to comment upon... if u wish to keep all your little chinwags secret because u feel unsafe, tenni, I suggest that u create a group of selected members as u are able to do on this site and vet them very carefully and keep all your little deliberations secret by keeping daft cows like me out... we do not need an invite to comment on an open thread... as members, we have a right to comment if something is said we believe needs comment upon.

AMEN!!!!!

[darkeyes]

Tell you what, why don't you save those little mindless gems for those nameless faceless men you suck and fuck at your local park and public bathroom gloryholes. You seem to be the type of individual that is more comfortable with those types of encounters. .

Those two sentences display an prejudice against and intolerance of homosexual and bisexual men which is I think less than appreciated on this site. They display a rather nasty streak and have just about discredited almost every other word u have written and leave a nasty taste in the mouth.. they are words of which u should be well and truly ashamed..

Still want to say Amen to my previous post?

[Vuillardgr]

So my friend and her bi husband.... As some of you may know, she is struggling with her feelings about her bi husband's relationship with his lover. Her husband has many faults , but I gotta give it to the guy.... he was honest from the beginning and before he does something, he calls her and lets her know. The main problem is he keeps changing the parameters of their agreement. For example... They agreed he would spend 3 nights a week with his boyfriend. That doesn't fill her with joy but she wants her husband to have what he needs and she is trying to make her marriage work. So, last night was the third night....he was suppose to be home tonight...but he called her from work and informed her that he just can't pull himself away from his guy and he needs another night. She hasn't seen her husband in 3 days and she was looking forward to time with him but he flips the script on her. He tells her he loves her and he hates when she cries and he doesn't want to hurt her but he loves his boyfriend just as well.

So, anyone with some objective advice out there, please share. Honestly, I think she needs to let her "sack" drop and have a candid discussion with him about holding agreements, especially when one or the other isn't ready for progression.

[Alloiledup]

So I'm judging because Im pointing out the fact that she is painted as the enemy and the cheater as the victim. BTW , Just because he is with you because you are a man doesn't mean that it isn't cheating. Gender has nothing to do with what is and isn't betrayal.

To judge without knowing all the facts is pure ignorance. Of course, I've only put a synopsis of the story else it would take days. Now again, not that I owe anyone an explanation. My buddy and his wife has seen their family doctor, and also family counsellor to no avail of the lack of interest in sex problem. They used to have amazing terrific sex when they were younger and when they were hippies in the 60's and on dope, but after the dope was gone, sexual interest lost from one partner. She had simply no libido. Men need and love sex in general I am sorry to honest with the ladies. They NEED it!!! Divorce back in the older generation was not a word that was often practised and their kids were still young, so he resorted to cheating with a caveat that he didn't want to cheat on her with another woman. Thanks for your honesty. I appreciate your honest opinion. Seriously. But don't judge, because it only reveals ignorance of all the facts.

[Vuillardgr]

Those two sentences display an prejudice against and intolerance of homosexual and bisexual men which is I think less than appreciated on this site. They display a rather nasty streak and have just about discredited almost every other word u have written and leave a nasty taste in the mouth.. they are words of which u should be well and truly ashamed..

Still want to say Amen to my previous post?

Prejudice how? From his previous posts, it rings true to what he enjoys. Not all gays or bisexuals, just him.... I would ask you to please be careful about taking statements out of context. As a minority, I am extra careful about automatically assuming someone is prejudice. I see you ignore his "tard" comment. Shouldn't you be angry that he is abusing mentally impaired people? Ashamed of what, being honest? No. I am only addressing him and no one else. Nasty streak? That's half of what I've been facing from them ...every single time I post . See this is a huge problem on this site.... you assume all gays and bisexuals engage in that particular activity, and so therefore you accuse me of being horrible. Please check yourself before you think to call someone something so heinous.

[Vuillardgr]

To judge without knowing all the facts is pure ignorance. Of course, I've only put a synopsis of the story else it would take days. Now again, not that I owe anyone an explanation. My buddy and his wife has seen their family doctor, and also family counsellor to no avail of the lack of interest in sex problem. They used to have amazing terrific sex when they were younger and when they were hippies in the 60's and on dope, but after the dope was gone, sexual interest lost from one partner. She had simply no libido. Men need and love sex in general I am sorry to honest with the ladies. They NEED it!!! Divorce back in the older generation was not a word that was often practised and their kids were still young, so he resorted to cheating with a caveat that he didn't want to cheat on her with another woman. Thanks for your honesty. I appreciate your honest opinion. Seriously. But don't judge, because it only reveals ignorance of all the facts.

t h


I'm being ignorant ? I have a question for you... have you sat down and talked to your lover's wife and inquire about her side of the story instead of just going on what he told you? Usually it's just easier to go by your lovers point of view because it justifies the lying and cheating.

Please no one is arguing that men need love. Of course they do and as I stated before, I hope it works out for you both. She has no libido, she is controlling, ....maybe she is maybe she isn't.
That isn't the point. The point is she deserves to know what is going on in her husband's life...and no issues or circumstances trump that.

[Alloiledup]

One more comment. It is people who don't know all the facts and jump to judgement and conclusions that drive a partner who cannot be completely honest with their partner. In my buddy's case, to be completely honest with his wife that he had sex with men for release could be too risky knowing how his wife would jump to conclusions and decisions and judge him just like one of the members here who judged, and that could affect the lives of their children. He cared for his family so much that he would jump off the building or shoot himself before hurting his kids. Yet he had needs. Knowing how controlling his wife was and that was even observed and acknowledged by their kids themselves, he knew it wouldn't be an option to openly discuss his sexual needs with his wife. Hence he played with men, and ended up liking it too. If all partners could be completely honest with each other, it would be an ideal world, but we don't live in an ideal world. Life is full of complications that could lead us to places we had no intention to go in the beginning of our life journeys, but still somehow ended up. Don't judge else you will be judged!!!

[tenni]

This is a site open to all with an interest in bisexuality..no thread is barred to any member no matter his or her gender or his or her sexuality to comment upon... if u wish to keep all your little chinwags secret because u feel unsafe, tenni, I suggest that u create a group of selected members as u are able to do on this site and vet them very carefully and keep all your little deliberations secret by keeping daft cows like me out... we do not need an invite to comment on an open thread... as members, we have a right to comment if something is said we believe needs comment upon.

Yes, we have disagreed about this aspect of this site. Its weakness is that it is too open to bigotry towards bisexuals and in particular bisexual men. I just realized that you were the one of the first woman to post on this thread about two years ago. For some reason you think that the title of the thread is directed towards lesbians? Sometimes, luffly you can not see beyond your pretty face.

Why is this heterosexual woman so aggressive and in attack mode towards bisexual men? She seems to believe that it is her right? We bimen should live our lives as bisexuals to meet her "standards". It is simply inconsiderate and rude.

[Alloiledup]

I'm being ignorant ? I have a question for you... have you sat down and talked to your lover's wife and inquire about her side of the story instead of just going on what he told you? Usually it's just easier to go by your lovers point of view because it justifies the lying and cheating.

Please no one is arguing that men need love. Of course they do and as I stated before, I hope it works out for you both. She has no libido, she is controlling, ....maybe she is maybe she isn't.
That isn't the point. The point is she deserves to know what is going on in her husband's life...and no issues or circumstances trump that.

Let me tell you. I have been with my buddy for nearly 7 years. I met his wife. I met their children too. Their children HATE their mother! They went to see counsellors to try not to hate her. I met her in person and I observed. I concluded myself she is a control freak, just as described by her husband and their children.

[Vuillardgr]

One more comment. It is people who don't know all the facts and jump to judgement and conclusions that drive a partner who cannot be completely honest with their partner. In my buddy's case, to be completely honest with his wife that he had sex with men for release could be too risky knowing how his wife would jump to conclusions and decisions and judge him just like one of the members here who judged, and that could affect the lives of their children. He cared for his family so much that he would jump off the building or shoot himself before hurting his kids. Yet he had needs. Knowing how controlling his wife was and that was even observed and acknowledged by their kids themselves, he knew it wouldn't be an option to openly discuss his sexual needs with his wife. Hence he played with men, and ended up liking it too. If all partners could be completely honest with each other, it would be an ideal world, but we don't live in an ideal world. Life is full of complications that could lead us to places we had no intention to go in the beginning of our life journeys, but still somehow ended up. Don't judge else you will be judged!!!

What conclusions have I jumped to? I never assumed your boyfriend doesn't love his family. I am going by what you posted. You are placing all the problems on the wife..a woman you don't have a relationship with...so how do you really know her side? I'm asking you to consider that as well. Love means sharing. I hope that one day he can get to a place where he can share who he truly is with his family. Everyone involved deserves it. Why is it so wrong to expect honesty and respect from someone you are sharing a life with?! There is no justification for it. Let's just agree to disagree on the issue.

[tenni]

So my friend and her bi husband.... As some of you may know, she is struggling with her feelings about her bi husband's relationship with his lover. Her husband has many faults , but I gotta give it to the guy.... he was honest from the beginning and before he does something, he calls her and lets her know. The main problem is he keeps changing the parameters of their agreement. For example... They agreed he would spend 3 nights a week with his boyfriend. That doesn't fill her with joy but she wants her husband to have what he needs and she is trying to make her marriage work. So, last night was the third night....he was suppose to be home tonight...but he called her from work and informed her that he just can't pull himself away from his guy and he needs another night. She hasn't seen her husband in 3 days and she was looking forward to time with him but he flips the script on her. He tells her he loves her and he hates when she cries and he doesn't want to hurt her but he loves his boyfriend just as well.

So, anyone with some objective advice out there, please share. Honestly, I think she needs to let her "sack" drop and have a candid discussion with him about holding agreements, especially when one or the other isn't ready for progression.

start your own thread.

[Alloiledup]

What conclusions have I jumped to? I never assumed your boyfriend doesn't love his family. I am going by what you posted. You are placing all the problems on the wife..a woman you don't have a relationship with...so how do you really know her side? I'm asking you to consider that as well. Love means sharing. I hope that one day he can get to a place where he can share who he truly is with his family. Everyone involved deserves it. Why is it so wrong to expect honesty and respect from someone you are sharing a life with?! There is no justification for it. Let's just agree to disagree on the issue.

To be dishonest with his wife but to protect his family is a tradeoff. He elected to protect his family. It is his life choice. Who is anyone else to judge what his life choice should be? Honesty is a great trait, but protecting his family and avoiding a divorce so the family can be together is also a noble trait. You are not him in his situation to make his choices. He traded off complete honesty with his wife to protect his family. We are not to judge how he came to this decision because you are NOT in his shoes!!!

[tenni]

Those two sentences display an prejudice against and intolerance of homosexual and bisexual men which is I think less than appreciated on this site. They display a rather nasty streak and have just about discredited almost every other word u have written and leave a nasty taste in the mouth.. they are words of which u should be well and truly ashamed..

Still want to say Amen to my previous post?

Ah, words of truth my luffly. You are beginning to see this person for who they are.

[Gearbox]

Oh now you are insulting people you don't even know...actually , you do that every day here. Ever notice how you and tenni are the only ones who have a problem with what I've posted on this thread. What a coincidence right? You have no argument against truth so you go back to what you know best, insults and unfounded accusations.
Tell you what, why don't you save those little mindless gems for those nameless faceless men you suck and fuck at your local park and public bathroom gloryholes. You seem to be the type of individual that is more comfortable with those types of encounters. There is nothing wrong with being open and honest with one's partner. We all are duty bound to do so. Whether you agree with it or not. So if you have issues with me.... put me on ignore. I enjoy exchange of ideas, but you and a few others hate that. It's your way or no way. You attempt to throw your weight around with the ones who dare go against your self centered dogma. You insulted me and when that happens once, I over look it.... but you continue to do so...you have to ask yourself why.

Now why don't you just build your own little community of like minds and leave the rest of us that choose to consider others alone.

I've never sucked or fucked a bloke in a park, toilet or gloryhole. But you think I'm 'That Type', and you claim not to be prejudice. Bullshit!
You couldn't get away with this crap on the other site you tried to troll. Your 'honest Southern woman with principles and morals' etc was a MAN there, I hear.
ONLY NOW you decide to make a thread to aid your 'friends problem'.8 mths? Bet she's excited now!lol

Get some help for yourself please! Leave the thinking to a qualified therapist who'll prescribe the correct kind of 'medicine' for you, and everything will be ok again.

[darkeyes]

I've never sucked or fucked a bloke in a park, toilet or gloryhole. But you think I'm 'That Type', and you claim not to be prejudice. Bullshit!
You couldn't get away with this crap on the other site you tried to troll. Your 'honest Southern woman with principles and morals' etc was a MAN there, I hear.
ONLY NOW you decide to make a thread to aid your 'friends problem'.8 mths? Bet she's excited now!lol

Get some help for yourself please! Leave the thinking to a qualified therapist who'll prescribe the correct kind of 'medicine' for you, and everything will be ok again.

Have never sucked a guy in a glory hole.. but have in a loo.. me own or at parties mostly. Public 1 too tho... in a pub ... wos well pickled.. young and daft and horny.. an that was and more in some ver sleezy places.. a few times in a loo with girls too in clubs an' parties...and in next cubicle was sometimes 2 girls doin same thing.. hotter an hornier...and even horror of horror in loo with me own partner....an' like the kirk doorway at Aviemore... that was a girl an the minister was less than pleased..and had word in me dad's ear'ole... graveyards 1ce or twice.. both genders.. such sacrilege...gonna burn in hell for that sure enuff... have done it in parks tho Gear.. Holyrood park 2 name but 1.. a Royal Park 2.. and moren 1ce...both genders an all... and recently an' all up Arthur's Seat... tsk Kate.. I just can't resist ya at times... full view of the palace an all.. is ok.. Queen wasn't in residence.. no doubt she and Phil did same when young but at least they had all that luffly land all 2 themselves and the peasants wud b told 2 stay indoors and draw the curtains... and God knows wot Wills and Kate get up 2 up at Balmoral wen they have walkies...quite salubrious sex in a Royal park tho... is that sleezy or posh?

Some peeps just don't have fun..am not lil old lady yet.. don't do it here there and everywer like 1ce not so long ago... not in front of the children, Gear..that kind of changes ur perceptions...but hope old and walking bout wiv me zimmer I don't turn out 2 be a frosty faced, iron knickered old frump who has forgotten the fun and life she had when young, horny and daft objecting to the young havin' gud time and enjoying life just cos I'm too fuckin old and bitter 2 b able 2 do it ne more mesel...... get a grip, Vuill girl.. life 2 short.. God I don't haff miss the thrill of unbridled tartery..

[The Bisexual Virgin]

To be dishonest with his wife but to protect his family is a tradeoff. He elected to protect his family. It is his life choice. Who is anyone else to judge what his life choice should be? Honesty is a great trait, but protecting his family and avoiding a divorce so the family can be together is also a noble trait. You are not him in his situation to make his choices. He traded off complete honesty with his wife to protect his family. We are not to judge how he came to this decision because you are NOT in his shoes!!!

Sweetheart your fuck buddy sounds GAY, as hell to me, and he could have always been gay. And he is extremely selfish for cheating on his wife with men no less, and not admit to cheating.I will admit I have a serious issue with bisexual men.They do fucked up shit, and will no own up to it, and they are completely ass backwards. And I also believe you should have at least have the common decency to tell your friends wife. Although you might think she is a terrible person she does not need to be made a fool of,because that's what her GAY husband is doing, making a complete fool out of her.

[DuckiesDarling]

Sweetheart your fuck buddy sounds GAY, as hell to me, and he could have always been gay. And he is extremely selfish for cheating on his wife with men no less, and not admit to cheating.I will admit I have a serious issue with bisexual men.They do fucked up shit, and will no own up to it, and they are completely ass backwards. And I also believe you should have at least have the common decency to tell your friends wife. Although you might think she is a terrible person she does not need to be made a fool of,because that's what her GAY husband is doing, making a complete fool out of her.

I honestly cannot wait until you are banned and posts like the above are removed from this site. Completely and totally uncalled for and once again you prove youself to be totally clueless and less than tactful.

[csrakate]

I will admit I have a serious issue with bisexual men.

NO SHIT!!!!!! I have to wonder....do you feel the same way about bisexual women? Seems odd to me that you can't have a modicum of empathy towards bisexual men and yet you call yourself bisexual.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

I honestly cannot wait until you are banned and posts like the above are removed from this site. Completely and totally uncalled for and once again you prove youself to be totally clueless and less than tactful.

Clueless? No. Less than tactful? Maybe.