Do bi or striaght men prefer Transwomen over real women?

[The Bisexual Virgin]

These question has been really on my brain recently, and was wondering why do so called 'straight men' and bi men are starting to leave the real biological women behind to be with a Transwoman? Why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs? I know this might sound crazy, but within a hundred or so years, or maybe even in the near future the transgender woman might replace the real women on this planet, since men are going goo-goo gaa-gaa crazy over them, and I don't understand it.

If I sound bitchy to any transgender woman out there, please know this thread is not bashing you at all. I would like an honest answer.

[BiDaveDtown]

I'm a bisexual man and I've only ever had sex, dated, and even married a biological woman or real woman as you wrote. Most straight men are just into biological women and don't want to have sex with or date a TG/TS woman at all.

[Jobelorocks]

Well, I am not sure why some men prefer trans women over biological women, but I like both trans women and biological women. Women are women and trans or not each one has a unique allure. I really don't have a preference, just as long as I am attracted to them. My husband is a straight man and it doesn't make a difference to him if a woman is trans or not, he just likes women.

I think of trans women as real women.

[Long Duck Dong]

interesting question....lol....

I have heard some guys talk about how there are less * issues *, like periods and hormonal changes, pregnancy worries etc etc and that trans women can be better and more open to oral and anal sex than cisgender females...... and yeah for some there is the * taboo * aspect.......

honestly, I am not sure there is a clear answer, its a individual one depending on the person.......

from my own experiences, I have found there is a difference between a trans person ( male to female pre op ) and a cisgender female, but its unique to each trans person and while its personality traits for the most part, there is a underlying energy in the person that is the real interest for me... and no its not really sexual... its a gentle softness, a flowing type of energy around and in the part, kinda like a contentness with who they are.......

its a pain in the ass to try to define things in terms that make sense in a forum,..... so I generally rely on other peoples own understanding of energy like that lol

[MarieDelta]

These question has been really on my brain recently, and was wondering why do so called 'straight men' and bi men are starting to leave the real biological women behind to be with a Transwoman? Why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs? I know this might sound crazy, but within a hundred or so years, or maybe even in the near future the transgender woman might replace the real women on this planet, since men are going goo-goo gaa-gaa crazy over them, and I don't understand it.

If I sound bitchy to any transgender woman out there, please know this thread is not bashing you at all. I would like an honest answer.

I think some men have made a fetish of being with trans-women. They think we are "the best of both worlds" when in fact we are people , with all the flaws that people have.

Some of this is encouraged and built up by the porn industry, who, in their lust for money, portray us to others as something we aren't.

But we are just the same as anyone else (be they cis (bio in your words) or trans).

FWIW it's quite annoying to be hit on by one of these "admirers" and have them insist that you are something you are not.

One last note: We are biological , just like you, our biology is just a bit different. Being trans is biological, it is not a choice.( Transsexual study reveals genetic link, Androgen Receptor Repeat Length Polymorphism Associated with Male-to-Female Transsexualism )

[unicorn_factory]

I think because women don`t know what to do with bisexual men. I certainly feel that way. Cinderella doesn`t do it for me, and I think for most bi men. Women can`t hang unless they have very masculine qualities. Not to mention that the incompatibility runs both ways.

I lie. I do enjoy submissive women. But, she`d have to be one of those 'active' submissives, who egg you on. Just sitting there, looking pretty, and waiting for me to shower attention, money, and vows onto you to sweep you off your feet doesn`t do it for me.

So, yeah. Trans seem to be the best of both worlds, in a way. I`ve been with one, and she was EXTREMELY hot, precisely because of her masculine 'qualities'. lol.

[transchk]

Bi guys want trans girls because they want cock, but want to tell themselves that they are with a girl. However, if a guy wants her because of her parts, he is not respecting her as a woman.

[Bisexual Explorer]

Being able to enjoy both biological women and transexuals is one of the many great things about being bi. My attraction to men, women, and transexuals depends on the individual rather than on categories. Speaking only for myself, I am not one of those guys who want "trans girls because they want cock, but want to tell themselves that they are with a girl" as transchk writes above. I want trans girls because they have a cock and because they are feminine. The combination is a real turn. I don't need to fool myself that I am with a girl.
Bisexual Explorer

[BiCplAz]

Being able to enjoy both biological women and transexuals is one of the many great things about being bi. My attraction to men, women, and transexuals depends on the individual rather than on categories. Speaking only for myself, I am not one of those guys who want "trans girls because they want cock, but want to tell themselves that they are with a girl" as transchk writes above. I want trans girls because they have a cock and because they are feminine. The combination is a real turn. I don't need to fool myself that I am with a girl.
Bisexual Explorer

I couldn't have said it better. Been with them all and enjoyed them all. Went to many parties in San Jose CA where about 7 or 8 TS TG Bi girls, u name it, lived. Talk about having a ball, or more:-)

[nutme]

Maybe I am adding some thought to this question that wasn't intended, but; is it suggesting that REAL women are just for making babies? I"m not getting the question, at all! I suppose for the value of curiousity, then a case can be made for a an event with a tranny, but to even suggest that REAL women could be replaced it simply insane. Nothing on the planet can replace a REAL woman; he sense of self, her level head, the aura of her presense; her scent, taste and the feel of her touch. What I am saying is that to me, the question is just silly.

[bieyeswideopen]

I can speak to what many "blooming" bi-guys have told me... the "trans-thing" is for them, a cross-over point, a threshold, so to speak. As others have said, for many men, its about trying to have the "best-of-both".. and not dealing with their own feelings of gay/bi with just a guy.

Me? I am like nut, biazcpl, and 'Explorer. I seek out that which I want to have intimate time with. guy, chick, trans.. I search out that option.

Rob

[MarieDelta]

@Nut -Are you suggesting that trans women aren't real women? I think you need to rethink this. Your definitions of real and not real are possibly screwed up.

I bet you cant even define "man" and "woman" not in any meaningful way.

Let me define fetish for you all - any object or non-genital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. These men don't want a real woman, they want something to put on a pedestal to wank off to. The minute you become real, with real problems, that is when they bail on you.

[PeterNZ]

@Nut -Are you suggesting that trans women aren't real women? I think you need to rethink this. Your definitions of real and not real are possibly screwed up. I bet you cant even define "man" and "woman" not in any meaningful way. Let me define fetish for you all - any object or non-genital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. These men don't want a real woman, they want something to put on a pedestal to wank off to. The minute you become real, with real problems, that is when they bail on you.

You've got cisgenderphobia. Transgendered people both FTM and MTF are not genetically or biologically the opposite gender that they transition to. An FTM is going to be biologically and genetically female, and an MTF is going to be biologically and physically male. If cisgender men and cisgender women want NSA sex with a Trans woman and both people agree to it, what's the issue with that? They're both consenting adults. Clearly you do not understand what a Fetish is since apparently men and women who are into Transwomen are apparently into Transwomen since as Transchick wrote they have a dick, and Transmen have a vagina. This isn't a fetish at all since it has to do with the Trans person's genitals which are sexual An actual fetish is getting turned on by something completely non-sexual such as balloons, cigars, feet, hands, or shoes. Sexual fetishism, or erotic fetishism, is the sexual arousal a person receives from a physical object, or from a specific situation. The object or situation of interest is called the fetish, the person a fetishist who has a fetish for that object/situation. Then again a lot of Trans activists go way overboard with their PC thinking, and support censorship, and are even highly homophobic, biphobic, and cisgenderphobic towards gay men and lesbian women, and bisexuals of both genders, and everyone who is not trans.

[nutme]

@Nut -Are you suggesting that trans women aren't real women? I think you need to rethink this. Your definitions of real and not real are possibly screwed up.

I bet you cant even define "man" and "woman" not in any meaningful way.

Let me define fetish for you all - any object or non-genital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. These men don't want a real woman, they want something to put on a pedestal to wank off to. The minute you become real, with real problems, that is when they bail on you.

If you want to go at it, you can do that all by yourself. I gave an opinion, that is all.

[IndyBiFun]

Interesting question.

Once upon a time I dated a transgendered woman and had an awesome time. I looked at her as being just another woman.

I agree with Jobelorocks; as far as I am concerned, a woman is a woman.

[love26t9]

Well I knew what I really liked when I got to see some beautiful anked female pics from the waist up--I mean AAA frigginhot and I hoped like crazy that when I scrolled the pic down that I would find a beautiful hard cock. I do love ladies and I do love eating pussy to the point of drowning in the juices but I do love the taste of cock too

[glenn???]

real women want a man to give her a copy of his financial statement, a resume of everything in his life, and if that meets up to her standards, then and ONLY then will she even think of a date or sex, and if the financial report isnt UP to her qualifications -- he can forget it. anybody ever hear that " women are like monkeys - they wont let go of a branch until they have another one in their GRASP"

[PeterNZ]

real women want a man to give her a copy of his financial statement, a resume of everything in his life, and if that meets up to her standards, then and ONLY then will she even think of a date or sex, and if the financial report isnt UP to her qualifications -- he can forget it. anybody ever hear that " women are like monkeys - they wont let go of a branch until they have another one in their GRASP"

If you don't mind me asking how old are you? I can see how if you're young how you could see that women who are also young can mostly be this way. Then again I have also met older women who are gold diggers but they made it very clear that they are only interested in a bloke's status, money if he has any, and want a cushy life and want a future sugar daddy. Either way mate you are meeting the wrong type of women. Even if it is just for dating or casual sex most women are not going to interview you and find out if you are wealthy or have a high paying job. Not all women are the way you describe them to be. The right woman will not care about how much money you make, or what sort of jobs or careers you currently have or had in the past. She'll like you for who you are as a person and will not care about any of that.

[DuckiesDarling]

These question has been really on my brain recently, and was wondering why do so called 'straight men' and bi men are starting to leave the real biological women behind to be with a Transwoman? Why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs? I know this might sound crazy, but within a hundred or so years, or maybe even in the near future the transgender woman might replace the real women on this planet, since men are going goo-goo gaa-gaa crazy over them, and I don't understand it.

If I sound bitchy to any transgender woman out there, please know this thread is not bashing you at all. I would like an honest answer.

I've been reading this thread and finally have to respond. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it's a "real" woman or a "trans" woman, it has to do with personality. Honestly, I didn't have a problem finding either a straight man or a bi man, so if you are having an issue, I'd say take a good long, honest look in the mirror. Ask yourself what parts of your personality might be causing the issue and work to change it. I don't think there is ever a question of anyone replacing anyone, after all we do want the human race to continue.

[tenni]

"I've been reading this thread and finally have to respond. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it's a "real" woman or a "trans" woman, it has to do with personality. Honestly, I didn't have a problem finding either a straight man or a bi man, so if you are having an issue, I'd say take a good long, honest look in the mirror."

Why did you leave off that you wouldn't have a problem with a transman as a lover?

I'm personally not attracted to a transwoman in transition. I wouldn't seek out a transman but depending upon the person, it might be kewl to kiss a man and fuck his pussy. (not sure as the entire transitioning doesn't seem to appeal to me) It would depend upon the individual transwoman if they had transitioned. In that sense I partially agree with the above quote and what Jobel wrote.

[_Joe_]

Two things come to mind... First, you'll never hear "I'm Late". Second, you also never hear "Aunt Flow is visiting"

Take it for what you will.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

I've been reading this thread and finally have to respond. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it's a "real" woman or a "trans" woman, it has to do with personality. Honestly, I didn't have a problem finding either a straight man or a bi man, so if you are having an issue, I'd say take a good long, honest look in the mirror. Ask yourself what parts of your personality might be causing the issue and work to change it. I don't think there is ever a question of anyone replacing anyone, after all we do want the human race to continue.

I am not having an issue at all. I was just asking a simple question, because notice they becoming pretty popular among men, well some men.

[DuckiesDarling]

"I've been reading this thread and finally have to respond. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it's a "real" woman or a "trans" woman, it has to do with personality. Honestly, I didn't have a problem finding either a straight man or a bi man, so if you are having an issue, I'd say take a good long, honest look in the mirror."

Why did you leave off that you wouldn't have a problem with a transman as a lover?

I'm personally not attracted to a transwoman in transition. I wouldn't seek out a transman but depending upon the person, it might be kewl to kiss a man and fuck his pussy. (not sure as the entire transitioning doesn't seem to appeal to me) It would depend upon the individual transwoman if they had transitioned. In that sense I partially agree with the above quote and what Jobel wrote.

Tenni, your attempt to have another guy at my cismale partner is just stupid. Grow up and worry about your own love life and I'll worry about mine. Second, this thread wasn't about transmen at all, so your attempt to derail is totally stupid. Have a nice day.

[DuckiesDarling]

I am not having an issue at all. I was just asking a simple question, because notice they becoming pretty popular among men, well some men.

Then you must be around the wrong men, sugar, because the males I know in life and most of the ones I've interacted with on this site and others would not do as you surmised.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Then you must be around the wrong men, sugar, because the males I know in life and most of the ones I've interacted with on this site and others would not do as you surmised.

That much is obvious because we run in different circles. I was just trying to get everyone's opinion.

[ErosUrge]

I appreciate transwomen for what/who they are as I appreciate a women for what/who the are and the men for the same reason. My appetites sexually are varied this way. I prefer women over all, but will always respond to my appetite for men and trangendered....my preference with TGs being those who didn't quite go all the way with male organs still in place...
Everyone has preferences and I don't think one is any better than another; it's so subjective. The ecstasy of the moment is so important with all sexualities...

[madsci]

I'm not at all attracted to trans, I'm into the real deal.

[transcendMental]

These question has been really on my brain recently, and was wondering why do so called 'straight men' and bi men are starting to leave the real biological women behind to be with a Transwoman? Why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs? I know this might sound crazy, but within a hundred or so years, or maybe even in the near future the transgender woman might replace the real women on this planet, since men are going goo-goo gaa-gaa crazy over them, and I don't understand it.

If I sound bitchy to any transgender woman out there, please know this thread is not bashing you at all. I would like an honest answer.

This doesn't sound "bitchy" to me. It sounds nutty. I don't think you have to worry about transwomen taking over any time soon. We're still in the stage where the vast majority of society would like to see us beaten within an inch of our lives. As has been said here before, yes, a portion of the bisexual community is infatuated with the ideal of a someone who looks like a woman but with a fully functional penis (which I don't believe is true of many transwomen), but most men are not even aware that transwomen exist, and for most, if they were aware, they would be disgusted with us. I don't think it's us you need to feel threatened by.

But the line "why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs" sounds exactly like you are putting us on a level below natal women, which I do resent. Like we're so bad that if men are turning to us, they must feel absolutely disgusted with you, huh?

Well, my honest answer is that most men are not absolutely disgusted with the vast majority of women. Most men do not prefer transwomen over "real" women. If they did, laws and customs in our society would reflect much greater parity for transpeople than they currently do.

tm

[slipnslide]

These question has been really on my brain recently, and was wondering why do so called 'straight men' and bi men are starting to leave the real biological women behind to be with a Transwoman? Why do men hate us so much that they are looking at a transwoman to fulfill their needs? I know this might sound crazy, but within a hundred or so years, or maybe even in the near future the transgender woman might replace the real women on this planet, since men are going goo-goo gaa-gaa crazy over them, and I don't understand it.

If I sound bitchy to any transgender woman out there, please know this thread is not bashing you at all. I would like an honest answer.

Honest opinion? You're COMPLETELY delusional.

This is not happening.

[ckman314]

I've been with about 10 transgender woman two of them I had amazing times with and the rest it just felt mechanical. Depends on the attitude of the person and if you click if the sex is gonna be good