Courted by a Shadow Lover

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

This change is called, ''evolution''......but you would like to see evolution stifled. How sad.

I said stick a fork in it because it was and IS getting ridiculous with these long assed posts that have totally diviated from Twy's original meaning! I'm not knocking evolution or religious nor spiritual beliefs, with my heritage that would be the Last thing I would do.
This has just gotten waaay out of hand with the comments by morons, the run downs, and all of the un-needed retoric that has drowned Twy's original meaning.
Good Thread Twy, lets go fuel up the Leer...lol Riss, put the goodies on ice and fire up the BBQ! lol
Cat, done with the subject

[Canticle]

This change is called, ''evolution''......but you would like to see evolution stifled. How sad.

I said stick a fork in it because it was and IS getting ridiculous with these long assed posts that have totally diviated from Twy's original meaning! I'm not knocking evolution or religious nor spiritual beliefs, with my heritage that would be the Last thing I would do.
This has just gotten waaay out of hand with the comments by morons, the run downs, and all of the un-needed retoric that has drowned Twy's original meaning.
Good Thread Twy, lets go fuel up the Leer...lol Riss, put the goodies on ice and fire up the BBQ! lol
Cat, done with the subject

By evolution, I was talking about the thread evolving, changing direction, changing it's pace, coming back to it's origin and then moving on again. Not evolution, in scientific terms, as in the origin of the species.

What you call ''long assed posts.'' are to others, their way of expressing their intellectual and spiritual and personal views. If the poems posted have led the way, for the thread to evolve, in such a manner, then this is what was meant to happen and it has not deviated from the original aim. People have been made to think about a subject and put down, in type, exactly what they feel deep inside.

''This has just gotten waaay out of hand with the comments by morons, the run downs, and all of the un-needed retoric that has drowned Twy's original meaning.''

I have not noticed that the thread has got out of hand, not in any way.

Which are the comments by ''the morons''...who are these people. I have seen perfectly intelligent posts, made by intelligent people.

What are the ''run downs''? I am not sure what that refers to....content of posts or posters.

What may seem unneeded rhetoric to you, appears as intelligent discourse, to others.

Nothing has been drowned. It has been added to and where someone may have made remarks, which are incorrect, those do have to be addressed.

A more worthy subject, could not have been raised up, as a discussion point. Whether the subject is covered by poetry, or prose; death, spirituality and connected subjects, are bound to be brought into the conversation.

In the midst of life, we are in death and in the midst of death, we are in life. An ending and a new beginning. It's interesting to see how people think, whether in poetry held dear to them, or just their own deep and long held beliefs.

[rissababynta]

*facepalm*

Waiter...check please?

[Long Duck Dong]

What you call ''long assed posts.'' are to others, their way of expressing their intellectual and spiritual and personal views. If the poems posted have led the way, for the thread to evolve, in such a manner, then this is what was meant to happen and it has not deviated from the original aim. People have been made to think about a subject and put down, in type, exactly what they feel deep inside.

canticle..... simplify..... that is the key

there are people that wish to express their view, I agree.....and I have no objection to the sharing of beliefs

but it shows the difference between people that have a simple and simplistic view of things.... and those that like to over complicate the simple things as to them, having a well worded, * intelligent * novel of a post, is the correct way of expressing their feelings and opinions

I am curious, would the same people go to a poetry reading and talk like that.... or would they have the ability to just listen and share a few words

intelligence is not measured in how many big words a person uses or how big the post is, but how simplistically they can express a simple view for the masses....

albert einstein was a genius, very astute man, yet E=MC2... something most of the world can understang.....a very simplistic term... yet says so much

I quess my point is simply that some of us can see the sky and admire it
others can see the sky and need to post about the colour spectrum in relations to the direct influence of carbon gases on a set angle that is parallel to the direct center of the gradient of the earth from the equator to the north pole at 3.12 am on sunday the 24th of november 2009

while people have the right to share and post in forums, some of us love the basic, simplistic beauty of wisdom in a few verses.... and it would be nice to have a thread like that without the other view points about religion, politics and opposition to beliefs in it

[Canticle]

''canticle..... simplify..... that is the key''

Umm LDD, what I put in any post about spirituality, is a simplified version of what I am thinking, of what I understand and what I believe. I am a wordy person. I am a writer of long letters....the record was 52 pages I believe. I put what is in my heart, mind and spirit. If I did anything differently, I would not be expressing myself as me.

''there are people that wish to express their view, I agree.....and I have no objection to the sharing of beliefs''

See above.

''but it shows the difference between people that have a simple and simplistic view of things.... and those that like to over complicate the simple things as to them, having a well worded, * intelligent * novel of a post, is the correct way of expressing their feelings and opinions''

All is simple and simplistic...all is deep and unfathommable (sp). How I write is the correct way and only way for me. Blame spirit...not the writer of the words. They lead me on my pathway and on my journey of uderstanding.

''I am curious, would the same people go to a poetry reading and talk like that.... or would they have the ability to just listen and share a few words''

Me....I'd listen and talk....and I would probably be reading some of the poetry.

''intelligence is not measured in how many big words a person uses or how big the post is, but how simplistically they can express a simple view for the masses....''

Correct...which is why I despise anyone who churns out words. to make them seem intellectually far superior to others. You'll not see me use long words, that are unnecessary.

''albert einstein was a genius, very astute man, yet E=MC2... something most of the world can understang.....a very simplistic term... yet says so much''

Einstein.....genius...maybe....great scientist...sure.....but adulterous husband and not a very good father. Another of those who maybe thought himself the most important thing in existence.

''I quess my point is simply that some of us can see the sky and admire it
others can see the sky and need to post about the colour spectrum in relations to the direct influence of carbon gases on a set angle that is parallel to the direct center of the gradient of the earth from the equator to the north pole at 3.12 am on sunday the 24th of november 2009''

Oh.....I'm with you on just appreciating the night sky and wondering at it...even though it's nice to know the astronomy, too. I'll leave it to someone I know, to go into very great detail about atoms and particles. Me...I'm just wondering why the ice cream tastes so good.

''while people have the right to share and post in forums, some of us love the basic, simplistic beauty of wisdom in a few verses.... and it would be nice to have a thread like that without the other view points about religion, politics and opposition to beliefs in it''

Oh, LDD, you know that is an impossibility. The nature of the beast makes us thinkers and doers and writers down of all that comes. Hence the need to have a pencil balanced upon the ear at all times. Verses trigger thoughts, memories, things that need to be shared. When I was writing prose, I came to understand what great writers meant, when they said they had to write, not wanted to. If you don't get those words down on paper.....you explode.

And I think you can take what I said about the pencil balanced upon the ear

[Long Duck Dong]

thats the thing canticle, there are things that can never be expressed in words.... yet people try to do it any way.....

embracing death as a friend, mentor, teacher.... a short sentence yet says so much to those that understand it.... but there is no way to express it beyond a few words, than over complicate it.....

a wise person is not the one that talks, but the one that listens and speaks a few short words, for they know how to answer a person in a way that says more and shares more, than a book could

[Canticle]

''thats the thing canticle, there are things that can never be expressed in words.... yet people try to do it any way.....''

I would agree....if we were discussing face to face, human to human contact, in the real sense of the words, but this is a forum, where words have to be used, to express inner most feelings and thoughts. Thus, we all do it differently.

''embracing death as a friend, mentor, teacher.... a short sentence yet says so much to those that understand it.... but there is no way to express it beyond a few words, than over complicate it..... ''

I have to begin by saying, I don't believe in death. By that, I mean death of the spirit. The spirit world is our true home and when the mortal shell dies, the spirit is released, to return home. Upon the earth plain we learn, we interact, we live a life.

I think the rest of this paragraph, I covered in my first.

''a wise person is not the one that talks, but the one that listens and speaks a few short words, for they know how to answer a person in a way that says more and shares more, than a book could''

A wise person is one that knows, before there is the need to listen. That is the mark of a true sensitive...a true empath. In real situations, I would agree, that less means more.

In September I heard that a friend was terminally ill, with but a few weeks to live. Two days later, her husband died. At his funeral...at the ''wake,'' I said to my friend....''There are no words'' and kissed her forehead. Six weeks later she was dead. At her funeral, I merely said to her daughter, ''They're fine, they are together now''......and she knew that. So it is true...words are not always needed.....but very often they are.

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Tad of info. Pagan comes from the Latin pagani, those who live in the hills. Folks living in the hills were often kept uneducated. At least they lacked what the Church viewed as education so, yeah it became a slur to call folk pagan.

Excuse me, withdrawing now. I tire of strife.

[jamiehue]

In the poetry thread today herbwoman posted a poem i liked that very much. Ps. this is lively this discussion but the next thread should be called say something people for those who never post maybe they feel intimidated by the goings on.

[Doggie_Wood]

Adam just because you are emotionally and spiritually constipated, it doesnt mean that the rest of us are.

Go on back under the rock, and have a cookie.
Cat

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