A Question about DOUBLE LIST AND FUCKING MACHINES

[dowmass]

Hi Folks

I know a lot of folks here that have steady tops to be with - so they never have to look for cock or cum.
I am among the minority that has not found A SINGLE good response from Double list.
I am honest about my age, looks and precise. I am NOT picky about looks, age or body shapes, and yet all I have found is FLAKES - some that will just write to collect pictures, or those who will just disappear after a few emails.
That being a disappointment -

FIRST QUESTION : WHAT IS THE KEY TO SUCCESSFULLY FINDING A TOP ON DOUBLE LIST?
For obvious reasons like having to share my credit card, I am not comfortable with other paid sites.

SECOND QUESTION:

There is nothing like having a real hard dick in the man-pussy, Getting that seems to be a distant dream

Have you used or heard of fucking machines and what is your experience?

Thanks in advance for sharing your opinion and advice.

Just in Case anyone wants to know, I live in the Dallas area... cannot host (Isn't that a common problem?)

[Neonaught]

I have had the same problem with DL and a few other sites, some paid, some free. It just seems to be a factor in this sort of thing. You just have to be persistent and eventually you'll make a connection.

[Jozyxt]

I have had the same problem looking for cocksuckers. There seem to be a lot of "aspirational" men or guys looking for masturbation material on DL and not so many ready do it. I've found some head though and keep looking for a better situation.

[dowmass]

I have had the same problem with DL and a few other sites, some paid, some free. It just seems to be a factor in this sort of thing. You just have to be persistent and eventually you'll make a connection.

You are right - maybe I should keep posting the same ad?

Have you had any success? in finding a top/bottom or a dick to suck?

[dowmass]

I have had the same problem looking for cocksuckers. There seem to be a lot of "aspirational" men or guys looking for masturbation material on DL and not so many ready do it. I've found some head though and keep looking for a better situation.

I wish you were in Dallas not Houston.
I would like to be a devoted cock sucker - Even that seems to be hard to come by in (Was so even in PRE-COVID days!). On!ce my top liked my skills, he could take my ass as well!

[bblover]

Wife and I have a fucking machine. No its not as good as the real thing, but it is pretty damn awesome.

[dowmass]

Wife and I have a fucking machine. No its not as good as the real thing, but it is pretty damn awesome.

You are right : The real thing is the real thing. No dildo can actually replace a real dick.

I saw this fucking machine which seems to have a really good motor, that can go up to 420 penetrations per minute. Of course I don't think anyone could take that because it could hurt real bad.

[bblover]

Ours is a nice machine. It has enough power that you can't stop the motor. Set the depth, use the dial for speed ajdustment, and let your mind melt away.

[dowmass]

Ours is a nice machine. It has enough power that you can't stop the motor. Set the depth, use the dial for speed ajdustment, and let your mind melt away.

Does it feel good with both the pussy snd the ass?

[bblover]

Yes. She loves it in her pussy. She likes being able to lay back and get into the rhythm. Im a top with guys, but enjoy anal play with the wife. I've bent over for the machine multiple times. I can attest to the fact that it'll fuck your brains out.

Big thick silicone dildos, lots of lube, and a towel to catch your cum.

[BrokenQuill]

To be honest I used CL years ago and it was hard work, lots of flakes, lots of BS. More recently I have used Grindr. It is still full of weirdos, but as mentioned above, if you are patient then you will eventually find someone compatible.

Funnily enough despite the risks of posting my face pic as a profile shot in Grindr, I had a contact from my old work get in touch recently. That ended up being a very pleasant surprise!

[dowmass]

To be honest I used CL years ago and it was hard work, lots of flakes, lots of BS. More recently I have used Grindr. It is still full of weirdos, but as mentioned above, if you are patient then you will eventually find someone compatible.

Funnily enough despite the risks of posting my face pic as a profile shot in Grindr, I had a contact from my old work get in touch recently. That ended up being a very pleasant surprise!

Thank you for your great advice about being patient.... I guess I will take that seriously.

My issue is this: I am married and bi, and closeted.... (she doesn't know)..... I am not sure I would be comfortable having my picture in the profile..... Now that might sound like being paranoid....but I don't know.

[Nocockyet]

Been using a fuck machine for years to aid in the solo play and Bi fantasy. 400 on Amazon gets a pretty good one. I really want the shockspot machine but it's 2500!

I really enjoy recording it and watching it later, but to be honest, it alone isnt enough. I do get off on the Idea that I can handle big thick cocks pounding me, but It only gets you so far. I haven't had the real thing yet because I'm just not attracted to men. Sounds crazy I know, but even after meeting some people on Adam 4 Adam, The thought of creating a connection with another guy just turns me off. As soon as they start getting pushy about meeting, I just start thinking the worst. I think what I'm looking for doesn't exist. I really need to try the real thing just once, so I know for sure. If I could have a close friend who can come over to my safe place, and not talk much, who doesn't want to kiss or cuddle, who only wants BJs and an ass to fuck I would be in heaven.

[KDaddy23]

These days, looking for a guy requires patience and even more so if you're not really free and clear to. Some guys will not respond to those who don't have, at the least, a face pic and, often, providing a dick or ass pic isn't always enough because that's what a lot of guys tend to do - and if one isn't of a mind to include a pic of any kind, even more patience is required. Ya just gotta keep plugging away at it while understanding that this is now the biggest crapshoot ever.

Machines... whew! I've seen a few advertised but since I'm not of a mind to use one, I don't know much about them. I once saw a woman get slammed into three very intense orgasms using her Symbian on the lowest speed and hit so hard she needed help getting off of it... and after only about 45 seconds.

[dowmass]

These days, looking for a guy requires patience and even more so if you're not really free and clear to. Some guys will not respond to those who don't have, at the least, a face pic and, often, providing a dick or ass pic isn't always enough because that's what a lot of guys tend to do - and if one isn't of a mind to include a pic of any kind, even more patience is required. Ya just gotta keep plugging away at it while understanding that this is now the biggest crapshoot ever..

Machines... whew! I've seen a few advertised but since I'm not of a mind to use one, I don't know much about them. I once saw a woman get slammed into three very intense orgasms using her Symbian on the lowest speed and hit so hard she needed help getting off of it... and after only about 45 seconds.

Well I agree a hundred percent with you about the difficulty in finding someone with some constraints. Double list is very picky - Dick pics are a clear NO-NO, Ass pics get flagged when someone human or their software thinks it is "too revealing". Someone remarked that Double list was like a porn magazine run by the Vatican - for so high are their "guidelines".

[KDaddy23]

Kinda cray-cray to demand people be all PC about something that doesn't really lend itself to being PC: Having sex. Sure... for some, seeing someone's face is all they need to see to get their juices flowing and, if nothing else, get their imagination working on what the rest of them looks like and preferably naked. One of the rules of online "hunting" is that no picture at all gets almost no results; even when I'm looking at A4A, if there's no picture of any kind, I don't even bother to look at what the guy might have to say. There's that need for discretion and all that... and then there's being paranoid about it and a lot of guys are very damned paranoid about literally putting a face to the desires that are listed.

Ya can't win for losing in this situation. I mean no offense to anyone but I often think it's hilarious that guys - in particular - are using various tools to let other guys know that they'd be down for some kind of sex... but aren't of a mind to give anyone a look at what's being offered in any way... and because they don't want anyone else to find out that they're looking for guys to have sex with. I understand it, of course... but I also see what tends to complicate things for guys in this as well. We eat with our eyes first... and that's not just where food is concerned. That would be like someone telling you to close your eyes and open your mouth and they're going to give you something that tastes really good - and you're not really of a mind to do that because you need to see it. And sometimes, you just might close your eyes and open your mouth... and wind up tasting liver... and you hate liver (or some other food you'd never eat).

Cock hunting isn't all that different and words alone can go unread because there's no face to go with the words. If you can't, you just can't but that means you're gonna have to work even harder and that will require even more patience.

[Nocockyet]

I have chatted with A few gents on A4A and they have been patient with me. Although I don't have any pictures, I am up front about how scared I am. And chatting has helped me figure out exactly what it is I'm after, and Im a little more comfortable talking openly about what I want. I'M ok with the notion that it may not happen right away, and if they are in a rush, I'm out. I really want to talk openly for now, and see if my level of interest remains high. When I first came on this site, and A4A, I though it might be a turn off, but I'm more into the idea now. If I weren't try to keep it a secret, I would have made a move a while back.

[JimmyPlays]

Great question Dowmass. My answer is "its complicated". Bare with me, I'm need to lay some ground work, first. Try to think of DoubleList (DbLL) as an opening in a building where one can look in-to or out-of. Most of us will think of a door or a window. But DbLL is more like having no wall on that side of the building. Its a very wide open concept. A regular door or standard window, these limit what can pass thru. You can see thru an open door, but you can't drive a truck thru one. DbLL is by its nature is unable to keep very much of the unwanted public out. Anyone can post, the rules only look to weed out a small fraction of society, criminals and such, maybe.

Everyone is allowed in! Is that a good thing? That depends on what's needed to fill your needs. Your example was how to find a Top. That should be easy, aren't all men basically a Top. They get on top of a woman and stick it in. The male, the man, the cock, the sperm injector. Isn't that the primary role of the male. That's what is observed thru out nature, almost all mammals will basically procreate with the male's erect cock going into a female's vagina. That sounds like what we all learned in school? Well maybe not. Mammals (from the latin mamma "breast") oops. What about testosterone? it's the hormone that makes men hard and want to fuck. Seems right except if there's too much, then problems occur; aggressive or risk-taking behaviors, headaches, heart and liver problems, high blood pressure, infertility, insomnia, low sperm count, prostrate swelling, If I had any three of these problems I problems I likely couldn't be a canidate for Top.

To be a Top requires the male to have confidence, sex-drive and some skill. Confidence equates to maturity, Skill equates to learned and sex-drive equates to healthy. How many men do you know that have a good amount of all three of these attributes? I'm a man and sadly I would have to say not many men today are deep in spades regarding these three attributes.

So DbLL does not make any qualifications to their requirements for joining. And frankly if it did, no one would join. DbLL has a large percentage of its members which do not fall into the good citizenship column. Many men can't write well and the few who can, wtf? The fake or the no-shows or the cheap con types are just your average cross section of society. Hey, don't blame me. If I were a female expecting to find good cock on DbLL, I would probably go shoot myself. Yes, they do exist. And to that I say 'good luck'.

I'm sorry that I didn't discuss the "fuck machines"
I'll try to say more on that topic next time.
Jim

[dowmass]

Great question Dowmass. My answer is "its complicated". Bare with me, I'm need to lay some ground work, first. Try to think of DoubleList (DbLL) as an opening in a building where one can look in-to or out-of. Most of us will think of a door or a window. But DbLL is more like having no wall on that side of the building. Its a very wide open concept. A regular door or standard window, these limit what can pass thru. You can see thru an open door, but you can't drive a truck thru one. DbLL is by its nature is unable to keep very much of the unwanted public out. Anyone can post, the rules only look to weed out a small fraction of society, criminals and such, maybe.

Everyone is allowed in! Is that a good thing? That depends on what's needed to fill your needs. Your example was how to find a Top. That should be easy, aren't all men basically a Top. They get on top of a woman and stick it in. The male, the man, the cock, the sperm injector. Isn't that the primary role of the male. That's what is observed thru out nature, almost all mammals will basically procreate with the male's erect cock going into a female's vagina. That sounds like what we all learned in school? Well maybe not. Mammals (from the latin mamma "breast") oops. What about testosterone? it's the hormone that makes men hard and want to fuck. Seems right except if there's too much, then problems occur; aggressive or risk-taking behaviors, headaches, heart and liver problems, high blood pressure, infertility, insomnia, low sperm count, prostrate swelling, If I had any three of these problems I problems I likely couldn't be a canidate for Top.

To be a Top requires the male to have confidence, sex-drive and some skill. Confidence equates to maturity, Skill equates to learned and sex-drive equates to healthy. How many men do you know that have a good amount of all three of these attributes? I'm a man and sadly I would have to say not many men today are deep in spades regarding these three attributes.

So DbLL does not make any qualifications to their requirements for joining. And frankly if it did, no one would join. DbLL has a large percentage of its members which do not fall into the good citizenship column. Many men can't write well and the few who can, wtf? The fake or the no-shows or the cheap con types are just your average cross section of society. Hey, don't blame me. If I were a female expecting to find good cock on DbLL, I would probably go shoot myself. Yes, they do exist. And to that I say 'good luck'.

I'm sorry that I didn't discuss the "fuck machines"
I'll try to say more on that topic next time.
Jim

Very Scholarly reply - full of empirical and science based facts. I saw this "Male for Male" sex only as an act based on urge, attraction to the same sex and nothing more.

I personally feel that a man who is BI and married (or has a girlfriend) can also love another man outside of his traditional relationship. Many would disagree - for example many would have sex as a top or bottom, but never kiss the other guy because they believe it is an act of "romance" or "love" - and I have personally heard people say that.

The other argument is that statistically there are more bottoms than tops - which puts people like me at a disadvantage. I have had some extremely rude replies to my post. They take objection to my saying that "I am a total bottom". One guy even wrote to ask who wanted bottoms when they were a "dime a dozen". Another had a similar reply with the addition that in the Dallas area, 96 % of those on Double list were total bottoms...... so who cares about them.

Well I don't know where this dude got the "96 percent" number. Besides in the good days of Craigslist, I was still getting many genuine replies when I mentioned that I was a "total bottom"..... This was 5-6 years back. and I do not think there could be so much sea change in such a short time.

I have mild signs of ED,I never w as inclined to top, and I know how much I can please my top..... So these rude, ill mannered guys can abuse me to their hearts content. I will simply wait for "MR. RIGHT TOP"..... There are several variables that matter - race, body type, age, looks etc, but that's ok. I won't lie about them on a post.

Thanks for replying... really!!

[KDaddy23]

My protege tells me that where he lives, there does seem to be more bottoms than tops and the numbers are so "off" that tops are hitting on him to bottom... and he's a top as well. In my neck of the woods - and not in such great numbers - there are more bottoms looking for tops... and tops looking for a certain kind of bottom so not all bottoms are gonna get lucky... and total bottoms don't seem to fare well - and I have no real idea why. Then add on that even in the world of M2M, we're not all on the same page about things which makes sense given that we don't all have the same thoughts and views about sex and everything associated with it. Then add on the continuing trend of instant gratification: I want what I want and the way I want it and no exceptions allowed. You'd think that if you wanted to have a guy suck your dick, the only thing that matters is a guy is willing to suck your dick - and that doesn't really seem to be the case. You'd think that if you wanted to be fucked, well, how hard can that be since there are guys who are willing to plow your south 40... and it's not really that easy.

What makes all of this difficult is that men can be just as funny about having sex as women can be... and then some. This is no longer the no-brainer it used to be and these days, a lot of guys are more... romantically inclined and there are still way too many men who ain't interested in kissing and cuddling which, of course, is a problem for any guy who is into kissing and cuddling and, as we've seen here many times, guys are preferring a more Mr. Right kind of guy over Mr. Right Now... and there are a lot of men who are Mr. Right Now. Discrimination in this is at an all time high: You gotta be the right age, body type, skin color, cock size including with or without foreskin, body hair or the lack thereof and, sure - the more specific you get about what you want, the harder it is to get it. If you're more of a submissive type of bottom, there are guys who love being that dominant top... unless you're too "girly" for their sensibilities and, yeah, you can get dissed for not being "girly" enough.

All any of us can do is go to whatever tool we care to use and make your case for what you want, how you want it, etc. - then hope that someone will find you to their liking and then hope that they are as for-real about stuff as you are. It's not impossible: It's just incredibly difficult for a lot of guys and that, to me, is what I'd call an occupational hazard; you take the good with the bad... and there's a lot of bad in the form of very picky guys, NSA kind of guys and the bane of things M2M, the fakes and flakes. And if you're not willing to put in the kind of work it takes to sort through all the men and their specific wants, needs, and desires in order to find The Guy you want to give it up to, well, I don't know what to tell you other than to say... guess what ain't gonna happen?

[Bi_Dave]

I'm a cocksucker looking for cock. You mean there's guys out there that like to get their cocks sucked? I wear dentures too. You know what THAT means!