A vent for bisexuals.

[twosmokers]

I'm sick and tired of being part of the GLBTQ crowd. As a Bi man I have been treated as less of a person by the Straight community and even lesser so by the homosexual community. I am Bi. Not gay or straight. Yet because I seem to be in this twilight kind of sexuality I am ostracized by both communities.

Straight women think I am not capable of monogamy, gays shrug me off because they dont think I am acceptable (because I am capable of loving a woman).

I know who I am...and I accept it. It seems to me like us Bisexual men get the shit end of the stick. Gay, Lesbian, Transsexuals, Queer (a term I frankly find more offensive than n**ger) then...oh let's include bisexuals. Being openly Bi is a pain in the ass. I've got so much shit for being a bi Male in the gay and straight community.

No wonder most Bi-guys stay closeted. Being a bi woman is ok (look at the porn), but a bi man isnt liked.

Am I the only one who noticed this? Have dispersions cast upon me? Am I imagining that both communities believe my sexuality makes me promiscuous and incapable of love? As if one side of the fence or the other is the only way? I either have to be gay or straight?

Sorry to vent. I was just wondering if any other men have felt this way. If you do post.

And FYI there are more of us bi guys than gay guys. It's just we are closeted.

End diatribe.

[DD788Snipe]

That's the 2nd reason i stay in the closet.

[KDaddy23]

It's annoying as fuck but the reason why this nonsense doesn't bother me is because I know what it's like and what it means to be bisexual - and they don't. They preach a lot of rhetoric... and rhetoric that's older than am I and the kind that I heard decades ago - and none of it has changed since I first started hearing it. People get a notion in their head about something and they just believe it and nothing you (or anyone else) will tell them differently will make a difference or change their mind. So while they're entitled to their opinion - even when it's about as wrong as anything can be - I just don't pay any attention to it because, again, I know they don't know what they're talking about and I have better things to worry about.

In my life, I've gotten more grief about being bisexual from gays than I have from straight folks; women, well, they're just funny about it because in their minds, it's always about them even though we have a lot in common with women; we know what it's like to suck dick, to be fucked, and to even be romantically emotional about other guys so it's no surprise that women are bi guy haters... but it's not like we don't know this and is exactly why many of us stay off the radar and aren't of a mind to tell a woman we're involved with that we're bi...

Because who wants to listen to this shit at every turn? I sure as hell don't! So I ignore it and I don't let this dumb shit bother me. I hear it, of course, shake my head sadly, and it makes me understand that if there's someone who is all fucked up about bisexuality, it's not me or my fellow bisexuals. They say we're in denial... but they're the ones who are ignorantly in denial and I'm happy to let them keep right on being ignorant because, end of the day, it makes them look bad and even stupid. And if you wanna diss me because I'm bisexual, well, don't let the door knob hit you in the ass on the way out - see ya and thanks for coming.

[NjbiGuy01]

Is there some reason you felt compelled to post the same thread twice ? We get it...we feel you...I feel the same. I see ads on websites for men seeking men that specify NO bi men, NO married, NO "undecided", as if Bisexual people are somehow just "confused".... I played with women (plenty). I played with men (a few). I played with MM and MF couples..the MF couple play was the turning point. I was neither gay nor straight, I was fucking BI !!! I could enjoy both, even more-so TOGETHER...now I realize it's fine to play with either or both..but yes, acceptance is another story, despite the strides made in the last few years....

[GayGuy04]

That's the 2nd reason i stay in the closet.

I'm the same way I don't tell ppl mostly just to guys k chat with online

[Jazminedress]

Then we have my world...............bi, people think I am trans something or other (FYI, I am not transitioning to anything). Hell, I even get questioned by bi people, I am attracted to men, only when dressed en femme, although I can look at pictures and appreciate a good looking guy.

I dont feel a need to explain my sexuality to anyone, I dont have some need to come out, be closeted or anything. If I am interested in someone, then we talk, if not, why does someone need to know ?

I am me, I am happy who I am. I have a fantastic opportunity on here to chat with some people who deal with some of the same struggles I do, and others who I can express who I am and chat with.

Bottom line, while yes the judgemental crap can be frustrating, those people are who they are, I am who I am, like me or dont

[Long Duck Dong]

lets look at this from another angle....... one of the more visible aspects of bisexuality is male bisexuality and frankly some of the attitudes are off putting to other people, such as the idea that our sexuality is a automatic pass for cheating or the we are there for one thing and one thing only......

yes bisexuals have a label of fucking anything that moves but its not the majority of bisexuals that have created that label, its a minority because the majority do not live their lives that way........the same thing happens with any other sexuality, the people that are more quiet, private and discerning are not as visible as the people that are visible as people that partner share and swap

yes female bisexuality is more visible in porn but thats because of the viewer base perfer that over male bisexuality.... is female bi porn more acceptable ? thats a hard one to answer as most statements are based around what others perfer to watch and if bi male porn is not peoples cup of tea, they are not going to watch it any more than they will watch gay male porn

we can argue that female bisexuality is more acceptable but over the years we have had female members mention that female bisexuality can be expected and even demanded of partners..... how many threads have we had, where males have asked about how to make their female partners interested in participating in bisexual sex with other females.... hell my own sister was bisexual and she would get frustrated with males that expected her to make out with females on the dance floor at clubs....


acceptance and tolerance is not the same as agreeing or understanding, we tend to confuse them.... I can accept another persons opinion and thinking, it does not mean that I agree with their actions or understanding why they do them.... but over the years I will agree, it is a minority of people, including LGBT that are very intolerant of others....the majority do not care either way unless its pushed in their face......I saw examples of that with NZs fight for same sex marriage, there was a minority of LGBT that said that bisexuals should not march for same sex marriage rights as they already had the right to marry ( ignore the fact that bisexuals also lacked the right to marry same sex partners ) with one of our pride parades there was people that wanted them ended and gays mostly that wanted the bisexual and trans excluded from the pride parades.....

even in this site, we have a minority that have said that the visible face of bisexuality in advertising should be 2 males and a female....what happened to two females and a male, or couples or even the single person that was looking for a monogamous situation... we have many bisexuals that are not looking for casual hook ups or casual sex with multiple partners.......


but at the end of the day, ask yourself this question, is the issue really to do with sexuality ? how many people do you have a issue with because of their attitude, not their sexuality...... because I tend to find that the majority of people I have interacted with over the years, that I have clashed with, i conflict with because of their opinions and attitudes, not their sexuality....and I do not expect people to blindly accept me or be ok with me, just talk with me and find out more about me before they judge me according to their own perceptions based around their experiences with other people

for the record, I am out and visible but I have cut contact with most of the LGBT communities because of the backstabbing, infighting and constant victim card playing and blaming heterosexuals, gays and lesbians.... but also the expectation that we should be fine with cheating and infidelity and blaming other people when it can be our own attitudes that are causing many issues

[bityme]

It's been my observation that most people find it difficult to understand bisexuality. Looking at the term GLBQT, each has a fairly well-defined niche, except for the B. Bisexuals have a wider range of expressing their sexuality than any of the other classifications. We vary from those like sdbrit who expressed only having male contact when en femme to those who want only masculine male contact; from marriage minded to those down-low or closeted; from those in a open relationship to those hiding everything from everyone. Just looking at the Kinsey scale, one would think that the majority of people are bisexual considering that gay and straight are at the opposite ends of the spectrum and everything in between is bisexual.

People tend to disparage that which they do not understand. Society looks down on the nonconformist. Those of us who do not conform risk the disdain of society at large if we reveal our desires. So, for the most part, we disclose ourselves only to those with whom we engage in our sexuality. It seems to me that only a small segment of bisexuals have opened themselves to the world. I think that the majority disclose their bisexuality on a need-to-know basis.

[twosmokers]

I dont recall posting this issue before. If I did post it twice it was a glitch or my own dumbass fault for not using the computer well.

[cbb83]

Just identity politics at play... they're annoying.

[DareMe]

Then we have my world...............bi, people think I am trans something or other (FYI, I am not transitioning to anything). Hell, I even get questioned by bi people, I am attracted to men, only when dressed en femme, although I can look at pictures and appreciate a good looking guy.

I dont feel a need to explain my sexuality to anyone, I dont have some need to come out, be closeted or anything. If I am interested in someone, then we talk, if not, why does someone need to know ?

I am me, I am happy who I am. I have a fantastic opportunity on here to chat with some people who deal with some of the same struggles I do, and others who I can express who I am and chat with.

Bottom line, while yes the judgemental crap can be frustrating, those people are who they are, I am who I am, like me or dont

I love this line:
"I dont feel a need to explain my sexuality to anyone"

You are correct. who are we to debate what is attractive?

[Jazminedress]

I love this line:
"I dont feel a need to explain my sexuality to anyone"

You are correct. who are we to debate what is attractive?

Honest truth, I dont think I fit into any category, maybe their could be an "O" added for others.....lol

[sysper]

Honest truth, I dont think I fit into any category, maybe their could be an "O" added for others.....lol

well u like the opposite under certain circumstances. u like the same sex under certain circumstances. that pretty much says bi to me. bisexuality doesn't necessarily have to be 50/50. probably rarely is.

[LingerieandLace]

Most of the American Society, does, looks down, on the male non-conformist!

As several others, have mentioned and on my own life, I have gotten, a lot more grief, about being "bisexual", from "Gays", rather than, I have from the most "straight" folks. It is true, that women are, just funny, about male bisexuals, because in their minds, they have been trained that way, and usually, it is always, about them.
Although often, we may share a lot in common with women; we know what it is like to suck a nice hard cock, or to be fucked, and to be romantically emotional, about other guys. So, it is not a surprise that women are bisexual, "guy" haters, but it is not like we do not know this and is exactly why we many of us, try to stay off the radar and are not of a mind, to tell a woman, we are involved, or that we are bisexual.

Now that I am widowed, and living alone, on a few acres, I will awake each morning and usually, I will dress in my own matching panties, bra, and a cammi each day. I do enjoy doing this for my own personal comfort. Even, if I need to, go out during the day, I will layer myself with my normal drab male clothing. I do know that I am a male, but also I do enjoy wearing my own, feminine clothing and enjoy staying in touch with my feminine side 24/7!

On the other hand, I do not have any problem with nudity and if a person is scheduled to join me, I will usually try to learn enough about their preferences, as to me opening the door for them, completely nude as the day, that I was born, or dressed feminine, as long as we both, can enjoy busting a nut or more.

I am true "male" non-conformist and whatever, I may do is, for my visitor and our own personal pleasures and enjoyment!

[sysper]

1st & foremost i'm sorry u have lost ur wife. i can't imagine what it's like but i'm sure it's a sad thing overall.
i think alot of pure homosexuals consider bi's as sellouts, kind of enjoying homosexuality but still trying to keep heterosexual privilege. i get the sense this is especially true with homosexual women in respect to bisexual women which can get nasty when feminism is an important value.
to many heterosexuals bisexuals seem to be lumped into "other" so they all get the same level of attention & consideration.
i think many people are under the assumption women don't like bi guys because they fear the guys will cheat on them with other guys. (monosexual women don't seem to like bisexuals of their preferred gender lol) but i think another issue which may be bigger, is women tend to be more carfull than men. especially with what they put "in there." if it's true bi & gay men have more std's than other groups of people there might be something to this.
wow listen to me i'm making all these claims but i don't have anything to back this up. i assume all of this is accurate. it makes sense to me but u never know so ymmv, buyer beware & all those things!
as far as being a nonconformist, good for u!!! there aren't too many men willing to admit they like to do it with other guys. even less who are willing to admit they like to wear women's undergarments. ur not harming anyone else by doing what makes sense to u so why should u do what the herd has judged to be the right thing! i really wish more people felt free to do there own thing rather than follow like sheep. so if wearing matching bra & panties makes u happy go for it! i would be proud to have someone like u in my bed. wearing women's cloths isn't really my thing anymore but who knows, i could try with u & it could make an allready interesting experiance even more interesting!

[NjbiGuy01]

Same starting post same thread all over...really !?!?! WTF ? Give it rest.