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Has anyone tried the shockwave therapy treatment for ED? I can get aroused and get an erection, my symptoms are maintaining an erection throughout. Been hearing lots of radio advertisements, so I went for consultation and felt optimistic about potential results. The treatments are six sessions, off a month, then six more. However definitely a sticker shock. In the $6k range.
Better off to spend that money finding out what is the actual cause of your ED, because the inability to maintain a erection is only a visible symptom of something else going on......
Medically Li ESWT is not a proven method with effective results, its hit and miss depending on what is the actual cause of the ED.....and anybody can sell you a dream, it does not mean that it will come true......
My friend who is a former nurse said the best thing is to get a medical professional opinion on the cause of the ED, so you are better informed as to what may work best for you... even your mental state of mind can cause the symptoms you are talking about, also meds can do the same thing, and that would mean that using Li ESWT is not really going to help you....
She is now a natural healer, using things like acupuncture. massages and hypnotherapy, but also said they are personal choice options, and same thing, results may vary depending on the person and circumstances, and sometimes they need to be used as well as other things like viagra or cialis
I agree with LDD. Were I you, I'd explore the root causes of ED before blowing six grand on an ify treatment. If the problem isn't psychological it should be metabolic. Could be weight problem, blood pressure or heart health or even a circulatory issue. Running down the cause has got to be cheaper than $6K. Good luck!
Okay, I am gonna share. Now, I am not ashamed, nor embarassed. I have actually stood up and given lectures on this. People came to me afterwards and asked how I can be so open, my simple answer, I don't give an F what people think of me, if my story can help someone else sooner, then so be it.
I also want to point out, this has nothing to do with my CD personality, many times people think that.
Years ago, when I was about 42 I think. I noticed, I was getting tired more easily, Sundays when I was off, I would take a nap. I thought nothing of it, just figured, it's time for the change, I am not a kid anymore. Then I noticed other things, like, my vision was getting worse, well damn, more getting older right ?
After a while, I was having erection problems, problems maintaining. Once it was up, get it in quick or lose it. Now, to be honest, I am a nut job of being in tune with my body. I hate exercise, so I am serious about my diet and maintaining weight, I also hate doctors so I pay attention to my heart health and everything.
Anyways, I noticed, I was living in a fog. You know how when you first wake up, you are groggy and it feels like a perpetual fog around you, or when you have a cold, my life was like that every day. I also noticed, I used to be a person who could deal with 6 things at once, now, I was lucky to maintain 3.
Finally, I had the talk with my doctor. I explained what was going on, and why I felt it was out of ordinary. I have an excellent relationship with my MD, and he respects my beliefs and how I take care of myself (like, I don't take asprin, I usually will not take cold medicenes, I prefer to use natural remedy as much as possible), to be fair, I have nothing against modern medicene, I just don't like better living through the pharmacy.
For me to come in and say something is wrong was weird for him, when I broke three ribs I brushed it off as something that kinda sucks, so he took it seriously. Full blood work, x rays, every machine you could think of. At the end, he had two recomendations
Number 1, my vitamin D levels had crashed, as in non existent. He ordered strong vitamins for that. He also gave me the news, I had the testosterone leves of someone who had died 5 years ago, they were low, very low, and, they are not sure why. It could be something serious, or they could need a jumpstart.
Working with him, I went on shots for a year, my levels came up, after about 6 months, the fog was gone, after 3 months my vision improved. We stayed with the shots another year until my levels seemed to maintain. I had concerns because the shots are a contributor to a aggressive prostate cancer.
After that, we moved to a gel I apply every day. I can't tell you it is perfect, as, well, I am almost a senior citizen now, so that is hitting me too with a slow down. But, I feel much better. I will lose 5 to 10 years of life, but oh well, I get to enjoy it.
I am active and have fun, before they didnt know how I even got out of bed every day.
As LDD said, if you have health insurance, go to the doctor, have the discussion, I know it's hard. Women are used to invasive discussions and exams from a young age, men are not, we turn and cough, until we turn 50.
Many men are ashamed, to even think they have a testosterone problem, and like said above, that now becomes a mental issue creating more problems.
My response, sack the hell up. If my ex airborne cross dressing backside can swallow my pride and talk to a doctor, so can anyone else, I just do it in stockings
[QUOTE=Jazminedress;368892]Okay, I am gonna share. Now, I am not ashamed, nor embarassed. I have actually stood up and given lectures on this. People came to me afterwards and asked how I can be so open, my simple answer, I don't give an F what people think of me, if my story can help someone else sooner, then so be it.
I also want to point out, this has nothing to do with my CD personality, many times people think that.
Years ago, when I was about 42 I think. I noticed, I was getting tired more easily, Sundays when I was off, I would take a nap. I thought nothing of it, just figured, it's time for the change, I am not a kid anymore. Then I noticed other things, like, my vision was getting worse, well damn, more getting older right ?
After a while, I was having erection problems, problems maintaining. Once it was up, get it in quick or lose it. Now, to be honest, I am a nut job of being in tune with my body. I hate exercise, so I am serious about my diet and maintaining weight, I also hate doctors so I pay attention to my heart health and everything.
Anyways, I noticed, I was living in a fog. You know how when you first wake up, you are groggy and it feels like a perpetual fog around you, or when you have a cold, my life was like that every day. I also noticed, I used to be a person who could deal with 6 things at once, now, I was lucky to maintain 3.
Finally, I had the talk with my doctor. I explained what was going on, and why I felt it was out of ordinary. I have an excellent relationship with my MD, and he respects my beliefs and how I take care of myself (like, I don't take asprin, I usually will not take cold medicenes, I prefer to use natural remedy as much as possible), to be fair, I have nothing against modern medicene, I just don't like better living through the pharmacy.
For me to come in and say something is wrong was weird for him, when I broke three ribs I brushed it off as something that kinda sucks, so he took it seriously. Full blood work, x rays, every machine you could think of. At the end, he had two recomendations
Number 1, my vitamin D levels had crashed, as in non existent. He ordered strong vitamins for that. He also gave me the news, I had the testosterone leves of someone who had died 5 years ago, they were low, very low, and, they are not sure why. It could be something serious, or they could need a jumpstart.
Working with him, I went on shots for a year, my levels came up, after about 6 months, the fog was gone, after 3 months my vision improved. We stayed with the shots another year until my levels seemed to maintain. I had concerns because the shots are a contributor to a aggressive prostate cancer.
After that, we moved to a gel I apply every day. I can't tell you it is perfect, as, well, I am almost a senior citizen now, so that is hitting me too with a slow down. But, I feel much better. I will lose 5 to 10 years of life, but oh well, I get to enjoy it.
I am active and have fun, before they didnt know how I even got out of bed every day.
As LDD said, if you have health insurance, go to the doctor, have the discussion, I know it's hard. Women are used to invasive discussions and exams from a young age, men are not, we turn and cough, until we turn 50.
Many men are ashamed, to even think they have a testosterone problem, and like said above, that now becomes a mental issue creating more problems.
My response, sack the hell up. If my ex airborne cross dressing backside can swallow my pride and talk to a doctor, so can anyone else, I just do it in stockings[/QUO
I lost my left testicle to a cancers scare back in the early 90's. Hormone replacement for men was not as big a thing back then so no one bother to see if I needed a suppliment. Years later my doctor recommended the gel and it's worked great ever since. The results were almost immediately felt in that my energy level, libio and my erection was firmer and longer lasting. So guy who used the injection method have told me it made them mean and aggressive for the first few days so I'll just stick to the gel.
[QUOTE=Neonaught;368910]What kind of gel were you talking about using and where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazminedress
Yeah, well, electroshock is enough for me to not want to experience it. There are, like Jaz said, so many reasons for ED and medical science is just now getting around to finding ways to solve a problem that has been plaguing men since the first man got ED. So many physical and even mental reasons for it and for many men, it's just a time bomb waiting to go off and you never know when it will. I'm thinking that this technique might address how calcium deposits can build up and cause a lack of an erection but I'm not sure what it does for being able to get hard but not maintain an erection; that could be a physical thing or a mental one and sometimes both and, as such, the doors are wide open for medical science to come up with solutions for this even if some of them sound... questionable.
If you undergo this treatment, please come back and tell us about it!
Thanks for replies. I have really good health. I get regular exams. Full spectrum blood work, urologist, cardiologist, and all very good. I do construction work, workout regularly, stay active and and am in pretty good physical shape. I am lean to muscular. However some of what Jazminedress stated kind of gave me pause. I have had the occasional fog issues, And my energy levels are not great. Sleep is not great at all. I had apnea ruled out, but I'm still not convinced since it was a at home test during covid. And the vision issues, I simply ascribed to lifelong glasses). My T levels were slightly low, but my Dr said it was expected to drop as we age. Without bringing up those issues during visits, maybe I'm leaving out some good information Dr can use. Probably good idea to talk to Dr about that again. And KDaddy...lol no it's not "electroshock" it's soundwaves. Not sure that makes it all the better, but I doubt I'd even contemplate if I heard the word "electro" in it!
[QUOTE=mewanturcum;368922]It's Testosterone in an alcohol-based gel form. It's called Androgel 1.6% and comes in a pump dispenser. I simply rub three pumps worth into my shoulders and upper chest once a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neonaught
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I lost my left testicle to a cancers scare back in the early 90's. Hormone replacement for men was not as big a thing back then so no one bother to see if I needed a suppliment. Years later my doctor recommended the gel and it's worked great ever since. The results were almost immediately felt in that my energy level, libio and my erection was firmer and longer lasting. So guy who used the injection method have told me it made them mean and aggressive for the first few days so I'll just stick to the gel.[/QUOTE]
Wow, thanks for sharing that, for many its not easy to be open, as men, we need to learn how to be able to speak to each other and help each others
[QUOTE=Neonaught;368949]The pump one my insurance didnt cover in a generic, so it was pricey as heck..........the little ketchup packet things of a gel cost me $5 a month from Kaiser, I too have been happy. When I got diagnosed, I was just finishing my amateur career (tongue in cheek, I was never that good) as a competitive cyclist, so I was in great shapeQuote:
Originally Posted by mewanturcum
As a medical professional I have no problem discussing clinical matters openly but I agree that men need to lose the hyper masculinity aspects like not being able to be open emotionally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazminedress
I get my gel generic from a mail order pharmacy (CVS's Caremark) and one bottle lasts about a month. The cost isn't too bad and my Blue Cross covers it...mostly.
Wow, thanks for sharing that, for many its not easy to be open, as men, we need to learn how to be able to speak to each other and help each others[/QUOTE]
As someone who as used injectable TRT treatments for over a year I disagree that it makes me mean or aggressive for a few days after treatment. I assume it could depend on your dosage.
I've heard the same thing about the pellets under the skin route of administration. I suspect it has to do with having the pellets dissolving too fast and giving the user a higher dose than desired.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitplayr
I was on testosterone injections last year, but supply chain issues killed that. I've been on Androgel for a few months now and I think it's working well in terms of non-ED issues like energy level. ED has become more of a problem tho since I had my prostate out last year. I was told that the "nerve sparing" part of the surgery went well, but also that it can take up to two years to regain erections, if they ever come back.
(I live in Canada so doctors and hospitals are free; I have a nice drug plan at work, so drugs are a small co-pay. Obs, not everyone is that fortunate.)
The good news is that I've had some semi-erections, and I discovered the joys of dry orgasms, which I find very intense if harder to achieve.
I'm likely to try the penile injections when I see my urologist in a couple of months. If anyone has experience with those, I would love to hear about it.
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Originally Posted by Neonaught
even taking the emotion out of it, the sillyness that we are all superman and nothig effects us has to go away. I have helped 5 or 6 friends talk to their doctors openly, and their lives are better.
The days of rub some dirt on it and man up gotta go away
Thank you for your courage in sharing this. You are so right about talking with a doctor. Even asking for a prescription of Viagra is not easy for many of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazminedress