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I once was talking to a bi older man on Facebook, who says hes now more into men than women. He claims he was straight until he one day wandered into
The nude beach here which is mainly gay men. That night he found himself wanking thinking of men and boom he's attracted to men.
He's now 60 but was in his 50's when this happened.
Myself i find im more into men as the older i get. Can't explain it, its just like that.
Although I've probably already contributed to this long thread, I'm not going to search back and check what I previously wrote. The material facts haven't changed, but my perspective might be slightly different than before. Doesn't really matter. What I write is always truth-based, so it will be quite consistent.
I was well into my late 50s and had never had a conscious thought about doing anything of a sexual nature with another male. I was always turned-on seeing other people having sex, and was standing naked next to my bed, watching another man eating my wife's pussy. Without saying a word, he suddenly withdrew from her spread legs and turned to me, briefly taking my cock into his mouth. I instantly realized two things:
1) It feels good to have your cock sucked.
2) It didn't matter a whit that the mouth providing the pleasure belonged to another man.
It didn't last more than a few seconds -- physically. But, it left a huge psychological imprint on me, and I knew that I wanted to see what it was like to have one in my mouth at the earliest possible opportunity. It didn't take long for that first taste, and I loved everything about it right away. building upon that and gaining more varied experiences has been a gradual process, though.
I have to factor my marriage into the equation and do things what work within her values, as well as mine. So I can't indulge and enjoy as much/often as I'd like. But I'm very comfortable experiencing these newer pleasures in my retirement years!
Just my own observation, but I would say a good number of older men at least have started giving it a thought. I am 65 y/o and have been giving it some thought for a few years but have been very cautious about acting on my curiosity for many reasons. I have tried to do some personal research on this subject and that's why I suspect there are many men above the age of 50 who find themselves dealing with their new found curiosity. Everyone is different and has their own take on this so I will just state my own feelings here.
I did have one same-sex experience when I was in my early 20's but alcohol was a factor plus a recent breakup with a girlfriend - her idea - so the two factors were contributors to the experience, which wasn't much actually. A buddy of mine and I had gone in on some beer and were at his place watching a lame movie and both of us were getting bored so he pulled out some porn magazines and we were going though them. I was already horny and this just made me more so and apparently it was making him horny too and he finally said he needed some relief and began masturbating. For some reason, probably the beer, it didn't bother me and I kept looking at the porn and finally decided what the heck and I began to masturbate. He offered to do it for me and I didn't stop him. I returned the favor and that was it and chalked it up to the beer and being horny and forgot about it.
A few years ago I was reading some posts in a sex forum and a guy around my age stated that his wife had a severe case of MS and his sex life was down to none and he really loved his wife but he really missed the intimacy of sex and didn't want to cheat on her with another woman and wondered if having a masturbation buddy would be considered cheating. I personally thought it was, whether with a woman or a man but by this time I had been divorced a few years and not really finding the women I was dating to be compatible, I wondered if as far as I was concerned if having a masturbation partner would be a viable way of expressing myself sexually. I started thinking about that same-sex experience I'd had so many years ago and the thought was actually quite erotic. I began to think about this more and more. I, like most guys am not attracted to men - I don't walk down the street and think, oh wow, he's really hot and I just can't see myself wanting a romantic relationship with a guy whereas I feel all my romantic, emotional feelings are with women but there is something about the idea of being with a guy who is as into giving sexual pleasure as he is receiving is a positive idea, as I've had a tendency to think of most guys as being the takers when it comes to sex - which is one of my many reasons for being cautious. The fantasy of this kind of mutual sexual relationship appeals to me.
One of the things that I think hold older guys back is the old societal taboo that "real men don't give each other sexual pleasure" is still somewhat ingrained in us and is a large hurdle to overcome.
Couldn't agree with this more if I tried and I believe it's the reason why many men suppress or flat out deny having these feelings. It's the reason why I'm still in the closet, I'm just not prepared to have to deal with any fall out at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by nu2curious
It almost seems that if a female says "I'm bi" the answer is "cool" or "interesting" depending on who's being told of course. If a male says it, from what I read, it goes like "Hi I'm bi..... so you're gay?... no, bi..... gay?". Obviously this is very generalized but it definitely doesn't seem to be an equal understanding or acceptance.
Self acceptance is very important indeed and a major step in the journey. Accepting you're bisexual or even gay for that matter doesn't make you any different nor is it actually telling anyone. You can continue on with the status-quo outwardly and no one will be any the wiser. In doing so I found I no longer over-think, analyse, attempt to rationalise, panic or frett over my sexuality like I used to. I shudder to think of the hours I wasted trying to fool myself I was 100% straight.
The older guy I am with, said he would rather been seen as gay than bi. I said ok, why is that ? His answer was he did not want to be seen as a person that was going to jump as soon as a cock was shown to him while looking for a female partner to swing with but if people could understand that not all bi people are swingers, could be happy with a partner and did not want to hook up constantly, he would be ok with being bi....
He said he had dreams about cocks as a younger man but there was very little opportunity and in later life, he had tried going to LGBT groups only to find animosity and judgement, also nobody seemed to be interested in a ongoing friendship with a opening to explore with him, they wanted cock out first, so a friend pointed me out to him and said, talk to this guy, his thinking is anything but mainstream.
It went from there and he has been able to enjoy a good sex life with me and the other two females are part of our group. What I find interesting is that both ladies have said that while the idea of them kissing, may be seen as hot, they have copped a lot of backlash for doing it, from males and also backlash for turning down offers of 3somes simply because they kissed each other.
I am 49, I still do not see myself limited to bisexual ( only two genders ) I have a long time female friend that is intersex and very well developed, and I see her as a close friend, not a OMG I would love to bang the hell out of her cos she is a dream fuck, and she appreciates the fact I see her as more than a dream fuck, tho we have been intimate and while it was very passionate and intense, we both loved the holding, cuddling and kissing before and afterwards cos it reinforced the understanding that we are very close as people, not sex objects.
I love the feeling of intimacy, connection, respect and consideration which is why I do not go for one night stand / casual sex, others do and thats ok, each to their own.... but yes for some of us, the idea that as bi people that will bed hop and constantly chase sex / cock, is off putting but its one of the way that main stream society can view bisexuality and that can have some very adverse consequences or cause concern to older guys that are experimenting and want cock, not conflict
Agreed, some will want to bed hop but that bed hop isn't caused due to being bisexual it's just who they are I guess, they're just not looking for anything serious nor limiting themselves to a single gender. I am glad you've found someone you're happy with and I believe like you there are many bisexual people who long for something more than just sex, something passionate, something meaningful and it doesn't matter which gender they find that with. The idea that bisexual people can't commit to a monogamous relationship like a heterosexual person could is quite appalling and one big misconception. Bisexual itself isn't promiscuous, people are. If I commit to one person then I commit regardless of gender, end of :)
We're all different, judge us by the character of our person not by the person we choose to love and/or have sex with.
I love what you said " We're all different, judge us by the character of our person not by the person we choose to love and/or have sex with." as that reflects very much what I believe as well.....
unfortunately society judges by the most visible and vocal element, not by the quieter and less visible... and at times I have had to take months of talking to a person to get them to listen to me, and not listen to what they think I said... and one of the most offensive things I have had said to me, is " you are just lying to me so you can get into my pants and heart then you will start with the I need to stray BS ", which is ironic as its been most of my exs that have cheated on me, so I am definitely not interested in doing the same to a partner......
I will be honest, if I had to come out today as a 49 year old rather than growing up aware of my desires and interests, I am not sure how I would handle things, based simply on what I know of the people around me. Most of the bisexual guys I know, will not make contact regarding sex unless its a "cum and run " situation, a local LGBTQIA support group has 90 members but at any meet, only 6-8 will go and only one of them is male and they are gay and engaged... the guy most likely to offer sex, hangs around the local toilets and does not have safe sex at all.... so yeah it would be harder to find a guy that would be open to a casual FwB connection so I could indulge my desires and explore my sexuality......and while there is older gay males looking for more than casual sex, even talking with them leads nowhere as very few of them want to talk, they want their relationship and close the rest of the world out......yet people say its easier to be out today than it used to be, which is true but being out and making a connection are two different things
Agreed ! just because i like dick doesn't mean I'm hanging out in bars trying to pick up every guy I meet. People make choices and sometimes choose irresponsibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbi73
Yes...70 here started sucking regularly about 4+ years ago....would like to always suck and swallow as much as possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by cleves
Thought Viagra was given to be a kick stand so they wouldn't roll out of bed:oh:
I'd always fantasized about being dominated in a M/F group scene, but never to the point of pursuing it.Had it happened while my wife and I were swinging, I probably would have rolled with it. My turning point was that I was divorced, lonely, started reading a wider variety of porn, including gay & bi. I also approached the question with a little logic: "Have I been missing out on a different variety of sex because I'm straight?". I also decided that women suck cock all the time, so what's the big deal if a guy does. I tried it and I liked it.
I think it is. Although I think more that everyone has the possibility to be bi, it just has to be activated or something like that.
There are some who subscribe to the notion that everyone is bisexual and all it takes are a certain set of conditions to be met... I do believe that there are many, many more bisexual men and women out there who identify at either end of the spectrum. I see it's quite common for straight people, men and women to sleep with the same sex off and on who still identify as 100% straight. I guess frequency and their own acceptance plays a part, but at the end of the day, it's just a label and I can totally understand why the do given how society reacts and treats bisexual people, in particular men. That's a discussion for a different day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birobertb
I was reading a post on another site the other day and this very same subject came up! I explored my bi side many, many years ago in my early teens and found I enjoyed sucking my friends cock and letting him fuck me! But time went on and we went our own ways! I got married and had a family and stuck my bi feelings deep in the back of my mind, oh I still had my fantasies of watching my wife being fucked and me licking his cum and her juice from his cock!! We had a really good sex life until the dreaded change hit her! I know some women it doesn't faze them and they continue with the great sex life! But the men answering the post were all in their 60's and 70's that menopause caused them to look in another direction for sexual relief!! My wife could care less if my cock ever entered her pussy again, that is so sad because my wife is still a very nice looking lady and she still turns me on wanting to fuck her!
Interesting thread! I've been Bimale all my life but limited myself in my youth as I felt alot of shame and inhibitions. As I've gotten older, that shame slowly evaporated and now I'm (finally) comfortable with my inclinations. I think this is true for many who develop Bi leanings later in life.
ChiefH......I can relate to your response. I am 60 yo, been married many years to a wife that was very active in bed, but her sex drive is now pretty much gone. My desire for sex is strong and she still turns me on, but it is to the point that we would never have sex if it was left up to her. So that leaves me in a predicament; I do not want another woman, having an affair does not interest me, I don't want my marriage to end, so, I look at porn when I have alone time and fantasize. My fantasies involve watching my wife with a well hung lover, his large cock unleashes her dormant desires and she has a renewed hunger to fuck again, but not for me since I am average in size. She lusts for his large cock, after he fills her with his load, she allows me sloppy seconds. I fantasize about cleaning her and him as well and those thoughts turn me on. It turns me on to think about helping her please lover, to play a part in her renewed passion for sex. I have always been a masculine, dominant type of man, and never had many bi thoughts until the last few years. I must admit that I am turned on by looking at nice hard cocks, thinking about how they would look sliding into my wife's 62 yo pussy and making her orgasm like she used too with me. I have an appreciation of virile men and their cocks that was not there when I was younger, probably because I too was once virile and could satisfy my wife. I love sex, I wish my wife loved it too, but it is what it is. With all that being said, at my age and with things the way they are with my wife, I may not be bi in real life, but bi fantasies have found a home in my mind.
I can only speak for myself buy I think so. In my mid 50s and I think of cock nonstop now.
I would have to say “yes” to this question. As I am getting older, I am becoming more obsessed with the desire to get intimate with a man. Several years ago, a fellow in a locker room slyly showed me his (beautiful) cock ... my knees went weak, and I became flushed. I knew, then, that I wanted to fondle and suck that piece of anatomy. I dId not get the opportunity, because in an effort to get close, he became a patient, and therefore he became ‘hands-off’. Nowadays, that is nearly all I think about. Even when I masturbate, I get my best orgasms while I suck on a realistic dildo. I am getting very hungry for some male cream.
do you think about women still?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidsmith
Occasionally but still there is cock involved. A 60 old couple would be heavily.
I subscribe to the fluid sexuality theory. I came to it in my 50s, after a healthy hetero sexual life and zero thoughts about cock. Then it happened. I’m not thinking of cock nonstop, but when I do it feels natural.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidsmith
I think we are just more secure when we reach a certain age.
I couldn't agree more. That sounds exactly like me too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flypaper
Without a doubt in my mind I think most men are open to man to man private time, no matter the age it starts at a very young age. For me it all started with my group of friends stealing our dads playboys and hustler magazines and circle jerking our brains out. Tasted my 1st cock at 15, swallowed my 1st load at 16. Now after 34 years of marriage not only myself but my wife are actively engaged in lots of same sex fun. We share a lot of our fantasies with each other as well as others. Our partners are all older around our age and just enjoy the fun of it. No commitments, no jealousy just sexual fun for all involved. I love cock as much as I love pussy, on any given day I don’t care which one as long as we both are satisfied.
With regard to do older men turn bi, I think we are all in one way or another open to bisexual thought, only the bravest of souls actually persue their desires or fantasies. Think about it, every man I ask in general conversation is damn dogs are lucky they can lick their own dicks and they laugh and say yea I wish I could, and when we watch porn, for me my favorite part of porn is watching a hung bastard sliding his dick in and out of a well lubed pussy and I get all hard when I see him cum on her or watching his throbbing cock unloaded in her. If you are older then think about it, I’m right which is why I get to play as much as I do.
In my opinion, I do believe that, most men can/or open, to be with another man, no matter their age, with some it can start at a very young age. For me, it all started with a much older man, that had seduced me, back in my early teens, many years ago.
He had asked me, to help him help move a few things, and he would pay me for my time, so I agreed to help him. It was a warm summer night and we both were wearing shorts and tee shirts and after a while, we both started, to sweat a bit, as we moved things around. Soon both, of our tee shirts, were drench with sweat and he then suggested that we remove our shirts, cool down a bit. He then asked me, if I wanted a drink and that he had some wine. I did liked wine, since I had tasted it, at few family functions, so I said yes. We both sat down on his bed, as we drank our wine, we both did cooled off, a little. I was starting cool down a bit, but I did get a bit warm feeling, as I continued drinking, my glass of wine, as we started talking about each other. He told me about the death of his wife, many years and about how he missed her.
Soon he started asking me, about my own love life. I cannot remember, exactly how it had gotten around to that, and he did seem, to be more concern, about my own sexual life and soon, it was really more, about my own, sexual experiences. At some point, he had placed his hand, on my thigh and after a while, his hand, slowly moved up, and in between my thighs and his hand was getting closer to my crotch, as I was talking about my own life, or lack of a sex life. My boy cock was now starting to get hard and he soon placed his hand on the bulge, in my shorts and he had, then started massaging my hard boy cock, and I started breathing hard, in no time. He asked, if he could see my young boy cock and before knew it, he made me stand and he undid my shorts, the he pulled them down along with my tight-whites and I stood there completely naked, with my hard boy cock pointed, at his face. He wrapped his rough hand around my boy cock and started stroking me and making me moan, with pure pleasure. He then asked me, if I wanted to feel, how it felt to have another person suck, my boy cock. I was now in, a wine induced trance and all I could do was, nod my head yes. He wrapped warm moist lips around my boy cock and his tongue danced all over my boy cock head while his hands squeezed my ass cheeks. It did not take long and I soon, started to cum hard and fast, into his mouth and he swallowed every drop of my tasty cum load.
After a while, and after I caught my breath, he stood up and undid his own shorts. His man cock was so much bigger than mine and it was rock hard and much thicker than mine, maybe about 7” or so. He took my hand and put it on his cock. He asked if I wanted to try to suck his man cock and I told him, that I never sucked a cock before, so after a while, I leaned over and instinctively I then, wrap my hand aroynd his man cock and started stroke him and I was amazed, at how warm his cock was and the texture, it was all very appealing.
I then, took his man cock, in my mouth and I was amazed, with his big mushroom shaped head and it was soon hitting the back of my throat, as I slid my mouth up and down instinctively. He was soon moaning in ecstasy and after awhile he started bucking his hips up and down, so I took his swallow and sucked his man cock faster and deeper into my throat, as much as I could, as I moved from the top, to deep inside, my own throat. After what seemed awhile, I could fell his thick cock throbbing a bit, as he shot his warm load of man cum, I had tried to swallow, as much as, I could and some of his man juices, began to leak from my mouth, all over my face and soon onto the floor. So, I had experience my first man cock! Now, I did understand, at lease at that time, that, in my life that, it was not considered normal, so I then focused on what I believe, was normal, a male and female lifestyle. Now after 40 years, of marriage to a wonderful woman, and after we both, had raised four wonderful and normal children, while living a very normal relationship. then we discovered that my wife had Cancer, which we fought for almost 3 years, until she passed.
I now often find myself, reflecting on my own, vivid memories, of my very brief, Bisexual experience and I think we are, in one way or another, mostly open to having Bisexual thought, not all men are brave enough to peruse, and/or act on our Bisexual fantasies.
I was very blessed, with having a great woman and very lucky, being married, to the love of my life and I am not interest in seeking out another woman. So now, I find myself, seeking a new Bisexual relationship. Meaning now, I can enjoy a nice male cock. as much as, I once love the female pussy, on any given day, as long as, we both are satisfied.
If you are older then, maybe you should consider or at lease think about Bisexual relationship, it is the best of both worlds!
I've always been over sexed and had a more that ordinary interest in cock. So when my wife lost interest in sex to the point I had to beg for it I looked for other ways to get off and satisfy my needs. I fucked around with a couple of women but was always more about it just being sex than they were. It seemed like it could get ugly if I said the wrong thing. So I went to ABS glory holes and got my cock sucked for years. Then I finally tried sucking one and really liked it. Now, I'd probably rather suck one than get mine sucked.
I don't want to put the blame on my wife but the changes in her brought out a dormant side of me. I don't fuck her but a few times a year. The most common way for me to get off now is by jacking my cock or sucking some dick. I pretty happy with that but if I could get more cock I'd be even happier!
Not sure if I qualify as ‘older’, but I’m 36 and just discovering I may have some interest in other men. I too am a bit confused by it, because I’m not attracted to men at all. Wouldn’t wanna make out with one or cuddle etc, but for some reason I’m very turned on at the idea of engaging in sexual acts with another guy, most specifically a threesome with my wife and a bisexual guy. For me, I guess it’s mostly that it’s something new. After being married for 14 years my wife and I have dabbled in just about all that sex can offer between one guy and one gal. It started for me when my wife (who was a virgin when we got married), told me that she was kind of curious about what it would be like to have sex with another guy. I had had sex with maybe a half dozen girls before I met her, so as she pointed out, I got to experience sex with someone other than her whereas she never had that experience. She had fooled around with guys before we met but only touching and oral, nothing penetrative sex wise. But she said she would be apprehensive about having sex with another guy off by herself so expressed that maybe having a threesome with me and another guy would be a more comfortable way for her to experience it. So that led me to start thinking about that and if I would want to do anything with another guy if we had a threesome together. I started watching bisexual threesome (mmf) porn to see if it struck my fancy and boy did it ever. The idea of fucking another guy, just me and him is somewhat less appealing than a bisexual threesome with another guy and my wife, but I’m still very curious about it. As mentioned before, I always like trying new and different things in regards to sex, and fooling around with another guy isn’t something I had ever even really considered before my wife revealed that she was curious about sex with someone other than me. So I’m somewhat hesitant to call myself bisexual, not because I’m hung up on labels or anything but more so because I’m not sure it quite fits as I’m not attracted to both sexes per se, but am very interested in sex with both, preferably simultaneously, but even just me and another guy I think could be fun. Part of it for me is I just very much enjoy physical pleasure/sensations and I enjoy providing others with the same. So for me whether I lick pussy or suck a cock to pleasure my partner makes no real difference to me, so long as we are exchanging pleasure with one another, that’s what it’s about for me and not that I find a guy or find dicks appealing per se. I guess it’s also in part that I’ve more or less mastered the pussy so to speak, I know it’s ins and outs etc and am just sort of yearning for something new and different. Not sure that helps answer your inquiry at all, but that’s how it is for me.
I never gave men a thought or look until I was in my mid-40s and had just gotten divorced. I was on the internet and, being horny of course, went to various porn sites. And I stumbled across some videos of guys jacking each other and found the thought to be absolutely erotic as hell. That led to some online chat with some guys and then to some phone sex, which was amazing. Hearing a guy getting off with me was a huge turnon, knowing our conversation had us both hot and hard and needing to cum so badly. And wishing he were on the bed with me so I could feel his hard cock and his warm sperm splashing all over me or into my hot mouth.
I'm married and she's not the type who would understand so I'm closeted but I still think and dream about it fairly often. And maybe someday I'll get lucky and experience it in person.
Yeah man I know what you mean. I think watching two guys jack together is hot as hell. Sometimes I enjoy watching gay porn. I consider myself straight but definitely have a bi side I want to explore. Sometimes when I watch straight porn I check out the guys cocks more than the lady parts. I guess I don’t know where to find a guy and get something started.
I hear ya. Watching a guy cum is really hot. And I do think cocks are very attractive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beacon1
When you get older you don't care as much about what other people think.
Yeah, pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Gregg
That is so true. I was in my 50s when I discovered swinging, something I never would have considered earlier in my life, which my wife and I decided to do to expand our sexual horizons. One thing led to another and I am only frustrated that I didn't open my mind earlier, as sex with a man can be every bit as much fun as that with a woman, just different 'toy's to play with and different flavors as a reward for doing a good job. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Gregg
Could've written these words, myself! (Probably have at one time or another... :bigrin:) This pretty much mirrors my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyMan