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Normally men have more testosterone than estrogen. But as we age that changes and the testosterone gets weaker and the estrogen hormone gets stronger. So in some way it starts to change our orientation from in our early years only wanting women to wanting a bi sexual life style later.
This is a good point. Also our society is more tolerant to people of different sexual orientations that it was say 25 years ago. Depending on where you live.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuthwulf
really hope society keeps being more tolerant as time goes by. so many people are naturally not str8 it's cruel to tell them it's wrong & force them to be something there not.
I have craved men all my life. Society did not allow us to be open about it until recently.I was afraid to get caught making love to a man then.
I am 59 years of age and over the last 14 years my bi-curious interest has grown tremendously. One factor that is often mentioned is that women tend to lose interest in sex and as a result hetro sex seems to become rare or non-existent. Men however seem to have a constant desire for sex which may contribute as to why bi-sex becomes less of a taboo. This definitely plays a large part as to why I want to pursue bi-sex.
I allowed a much older male to perform oral sex on me a few times in my late teens/early twenties, but I also struggled with the guilt associated with having had sexual contact with another male, so I suppressed all bisex interest until about 12 years ago. Today I so want to experience performing and receiving oral sex with another male, however I just cannot seem to get over the possible guilt I would feel afterwards for two reasons; the first one is that I have never cheated on my partner and secondly I still remember how horrible I felt after allowing another male to perform oral on me. There is also the issue of STD's and of course being found out which I believe for a lot of us would be devastating.
I spend 75% of my time looking at bi-sex porn and masturbate to such porn almost every day. My fantasies go way beyond just having oral with another male, but fantasy and reality are two very different things and being able to have a regular JO/Blow buddy would be great.
Society has definitely become more accepting of bi-sex, but for many of us in our 40's or older, who are discovering our desire for bi-sex, we still have to overcome the values that were instilled in us in our youth. I may or may never experience touching and performing oral on another male, but my fantasies and desires will always be there and I will continue to enjoy these fantasies without any guilty feelings.
Like most generalizations, there is a bit of truth in the statement that women lose interest in sex as they get older. However, as they say, Your Mileage My Vary. I can say this with some confidence because I've been dating for the last 7 years since my divorce and with the exception of one who was more inclined to be a lesbian, all of the women I've been involved with have been very eager to have sex. My current 67 yo girlfriend, whom I'm in the process of buying a house with, is an absolute tiger in bed. I certainly don't doubt mike_smallwood's comments about his situation. I've run into a lot of men who say the same thing. But believe me, there's a lot of older women out there who not only are willing to provide sex, but are really looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_smallwood
As for the changes in men's attitudes toward bi sex, I believe that society's attitudes toward bisexuals has not changed very much. Most people would probably still consider two married men having sex together as "cheating".The reason that there's more bisexual older men is because we are the rebellious generation, fighting authority since we were kids with long hair. Now that we're in our golden years, we could care even less what people think about us.
my experiancce is different from urs but we do have alot in common. i have done nothing ever with a guy & i never even thought of being with a guy unitll my early 20's. but when that happened i felt alot of what u have felt. alot of guilt getting excited about thinking about it. even though i knew rationaly it's absolutely ok, in fact it's good to think outside the box like that, no pun intended lol. it's been years, well actually decades, & i'm still working on accepting it but i have come a longway! still confused af but that's ok. over such years i have had alot of time to think about it & just accept it & begin to embrace it. whatever it is, remember i'm confused lol. i think what has also helped me is the internet. there really weren't so many forums & chats back then. i'm still having trouble chatting & emailing the right guys long enough to meet them, but lately i have found alot of supportive people online........including here so thanks guys :) xxx ooo so meeting my 1st guy is gonna be very nervous & i might feel guilty afterwards like u did those years ago. but then again have u considered, is any of that guilt is it because the person was much older? still i remember feeling guilty after j/o thinking about guys. then i would loose interest for months. now i usually feel some guilt but in 5 minutes i can be ready to enjoy thoughts about guys. how it will happen for real, who knows? will i loose interest right away? or if i stick through how will i feel afterwards? but right now i'm torturing myself asking what if? they say it's better to regret something u did than regret something u didn't do. so i think it's the right thing for me to go for it. if i like it do it again (& again & again & again.........lol) but if i hate it at least i tried it for real & know why i don't like it. most likely i think i'd still be confused. but overtime if i keep myself open to the right people i will begin to understand. std's are definately something to think about that's another reason the right guy is so important. personally i wouldnt go to an abs or sauna or something like that. plus i wouldn't feel comfortable being naked with a total stranger. but everyone has gotta make that decision. but everyone should consider there are std's out there & u should consider smart decisions. the only real problem with u is ur with someone. i don't really wanna call it a problem in fact its the best thing in the world to be with the right person. so u gotta ask ursef what's more important, ur wife/gf or this curiosity? no right or wrong answer here but it's something u gotta ask urself & stick to it. i know if i had a wife/gf i would like to be able to talk about this with her, & if she told me she wanted to explore i would at least resepct her feelings & i would try hard to give her my blessing to do it. but let's be real, sex outside of a marriage/relationship can be a bad thing. even if it's under these circumstances. swingers seem to be able to pull it off for example, but if u ask a swinger they will most likely say it's more challenging. i don't know ur situation very good so i'm not saying u should or would continue sleeping around with 1 guy or many guys. but even once can bring up feelings u might not of expected. i'm sure u have thought of something like that because u said u may or may never experience touching and performing oral on another male. do u love ur partner enough to sacrifice ever doing anything with a guy? sacrifice is a great expresson of love. but its ok if u choose not too. that's why it's a choice, if it wasn't a choice it wouldn't be special. but u should be fair to everyone involved. not an easy thing to do, maybe even scary. but u can figure it out eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_smallwood
thanks for being the generation that rebelled :) i can only imagine where this world would be if we still just accepted what the authority said without questioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by thatcher29
I don't think is is because they can't find women. I believe men by age 50, are just tired of women's constant nagging. I've had my dick sucked a few times through the years, but have never had the desire to suck a dick. Hell, I get choked on my toothbrush. But I have always wondered how it would feel to have a hard dick sliding in and out of my back door, and the throbbing and pulsing of it cumming in there. I have eat my own cum and I could eat another man's cum, I just cant suck it. Or, maybe the right one hasn't cum along yet.
I think since women want less sex at our advancing age, and we men are such dogs anyway, still craving the intimacy. the joining that tells us our woman loves us. But doesn't want us anymore, making us think they don't love us anymore, we look for this elsewhere. Besides, we men know what we want and how we want it. Pull my pants and shorts down, and off, then take my growing dick in your mouth and show me how much you want it. I'll happily give what I get, so don't be shy about giving it.
In my life, I always have been BI. Now being more accepting of this is a different story. As a young man it was something I hide, (my work is the reason). My current wife found a gay porn video and confronted me, I came out and said yes I am BI, thankfully she was OK with it. Since that incident I have been more open. We even play with toys and she enjoys seeing me happy (toy in my ass). To this day she is the only straight person who knows I am BI. Two months ago I hired a lesbian, she told me she was gay after a week of work and I told her I was BI. Since that day I have been very open about my sex life, seems we enjoy talking about being how we are. I have this urge to tell people about being BI, but have yet to act on it. With age comes an acceptance of who you are, and sometimes a wish you were more open earlier in life.
Yeah, I wish I and the guys, usually close friends, would've been more understanding of my/their Bi tendencies. Share equally, don't just get me to suck your dick, lick your balls and maybe fuck a little. If you like the thought of having hot sex with me, then take what I give you and I'll enjoy what you give me more.
Yes, I am 62 and long term married hetro and have never had an attraction or sexual interest in me. However over the last couple years have this strong desire to suck a cock and lick balls. I have been masterbating to bi porn. Wife knows and says go for it. I can't wait to try.
Sounds good. You just need to find someone in proper condition and willing to guide you and share...
I would be very curious to know how many man honestly are bi. I've known a lot of men personally that I didn't know for years, in some cases, that they were bi. The biggest thing I see is men on these sites who put "straight" on their profile, yet they make comments on my pictures or messages saying how much they'd like to suck my dick. That doesn't sound very "straight" to me. I understand how a lot of guys don't want people to find out. I don't tell everyone, but if they were to ask me, I don't think I'd lie. I'd love to find a credible survey to answer that question. Not just on these sites, half the people on these things aren't honest anyway. An anonymous, real, believable survey out in the world.
I've seen a lot of blame placed on women for this reason and that. I think some of it may be true, but I think the real reason is that men have always had these feelings, but have been taught that it's wrong, so they try to suppress them. I'm Bisexual, and I think I have been since my early teens, and I thought it was wrong. I acted on it for real in my late 20's. I'm 67 now and as I get older I'm a lot more open about it. I don't broadcast, but when asked I reply honestly. My wife doesn't like sex sex anymore, and we go months and months at a time before I get what I call "pity sex", but that's not what drives my sexuality. I just feel I'm running out of time to experience things, and want to get as much in as I can, before I can't. Blaming your wife is just a lame excuse for what you've felt from early on.
I think urge for some older guys has always been there and once their wife shuts down sexually they either revert back to some things they did in their youth or they decide to give into their long-standing curiosity. I think the latter would tend to want to place blame on their wife due to the shame they feel once they have a man to man experience, even if they end up liking it and continue.
Im not sure which is easier once you are shut out with the wife, I tend to think same sex is safer as in keeping it secret. I would rather have a girlfriend or two but women seem to be very unpredictable once you have a sexual relationship with them.
I remember when I was young working with a lot of 50 something guys and the common thread with them was they would tell you how their wives had just quit having sex. A lot of them ended up getting divorced since it’s difficult to keep a girlfriend secret.
I am not saying that older women are not sexual, only that many tend to lose interest in sex in my experience and I agree your mileage may vary as you pointed that your experience has been different. I should have qualified my statement with "in my experience" in the original post and it was not meant as a generalization. Thank you for pointing that out.
You may, however, be confusing the acceptance of bisexuality and the acceptance of cheating in your statements above. Regardless of gender, a person has sex with another person outside of a relationship is considered cheating and was never well accepted nor is it accepted today to any great extent. Bisexuality is related to two people of the same gender who have sex together, and this is a lot more accepted in today's society. Case in point, we have prime time television programs depicting same gender people kissing and in bed together. The series "How to get away with Murder" which aired on NBC is a perfect example of how societies acceptance of gay or bisexuality has changed. This would never have happened 20 or 30 years ago.
A perfect example of societies attitude towards homosexuality since 1952 can be seen by reading the story of Alan Turing, the person who cracked the enigma code the Germans used during WWII. There is a good write up on Wikipedia about his life and how he was treated being a homosexual, after his incredible contributions during WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
I think most older men always had those tendacies but ignored them. As you get older you want to expierence things. Also todays society is more open and there is the internet
My story is similar to many on here. I have always had these same sex desires. When I was a teenager I would flip to the back of the porn magazines and look at the gay ads. When I would watch porn videos I always wanted to know what it was like for the woman and wanted to have her experience. My family would never have accepted me being gay. I had 1 experience in my mid 20's that I really enjoyed but I was afraid because it verified my sexual desires for men. Although I have never really been attracted to men and don't know if I could ever have the same deep loving relationship that I have with a woman. At any rate I suppressed my desires but they have always lingered just under the surface. As I get older my desires for mm pleasure get stronger.
I think at 60% or more guys are bi from the beginning. I believe bisexual will one day be what most people describe themselves as being, in other words the new " norm ". As men get older they're less inhibited , more sexually adventurous so any feelings that have rested quietly within their beings begin to surface.
True. Time's are a changing. Today teens have far more freedom to express their sexuality than any of us did growing up. I read a survey that was done in the US/UK where it asked 13 to 26 year old's about sexuality and 57% said they don't identify as traditionally straight, 47% took a fluid approach and 45% said they'd be happy kissing either sex. The sample size was very small though, over a 1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by nu2curious
Another survey done in the UK a few years back surveyed 1632 people. Here's a couple of exerts, "When asked to plot themselves on a scale of sexuality, ranging from exclusively heterosexual to exclusively gay, 72 per cent of adults and 49 per cent of people aged 18 to 24 chose a position other than completely straight." and "Of 1,632 people surveyed, 60 per cent of heterosexuals and 73 per cent of homosexuals supported the idea that sexuality is a scale." so I guess this is good news for us bisexuals, sort of.
For me, like many, I believe it's genetic, I was born this way. Nature vs Nurture. Nature won but it took time so whilst it may appear I turned bi later on I had in fact always been bi. There were so many signs. The only sign missing was a sign on the side of the road telling me. Media coverage has also been greater over the passed few years which I guess has helped awareness so people who may have never thought or entertained the idea got curious. Don't know but if each generation is more accepting than the last it can only be good. Tolerance and acceptance from society will help so many who are struggling with their identity.
As humans, I believe we have the capacity to love anyone, regardless of gender. That would imply we may all just be a little bi, some not enough to acknowledge or even know. It's society and religion who condition us from an early age telling us that it's wrong. That's just my opinion though.
1. My love of, desire for and sex with women has not changed.
2. When I was 15, 25, 35 and 45 I had zero interest in or desire for men.
3, When I was 52 I found myself getting regular oral sex from a guy.
4.:I am 60 and continue to enjoy both sides of my sexuality.
What changed?
Well I have been Bi my whole life but didn’t really act upon it of my own free will until I was in my 30s. I told my wife about my desires and she supported me. I am in my 50s now and her appetite for sex has decreased so much that our sex is once or twice a year. I still desire her but she just doesn’t care about having sex anymore. With men it is easier to please them, I know what they want and just suck their cocks until they cum. The funny thing is I don’t look at men the same way as my wife, I only want to please their desire to cum. I don’t think I could ever have a long term relationship with a man like I do with my wife.
I’m 57 now and when I was young was always chasing women. I had some thoughts and fantasies in my 20’s but never acted on them. When I hit 50 my desires to have sex with a guy became overwhelming.
After I acted on them I realized what I’d been missing! I’ll always love women but am now happily bi. While sex with a women is great, guys just seem to know what makes each other feel good. I’d never sucked cock before but seemed to instinctively knew what to do.
I've always been bi. Since sex with my wife became infrequent I've sought out more hookups with guys as no strings sex with guys is more readily available than with ladies.
Dunno, I reckon you're the only one that can answer that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flypaper
I'm 69 and have been sucking cock for a year now. Once you try it, it's really hard to stop.
personally, I think there as many reasons for this as there are people. WE are all individuals and have an individual reason for being BI. We also take a different path to the discovery and acknowledgement of being BI. Since there are so many paths, it may take some time and in some cases, a lot of time for this discovery and acknowledgement. From the outside, the time it takes may appear to be an older man turning BI but in reality, it just took that long for him to figure it all out.
In my case, I was always BI. I started having sex with my boy friends at 12 and with my girl friends at 20. I enjoyed every one of them but was definitely confused for a long time, well into my 30's. I finally figured it out and acknowledged my Bisexuality in my late 30's so I did not just turn BI then, I just took a lot of time to figure it out.
Describes me exactly ! It's not a romance thing or relationship deal although I value friendships greatly it's about cock really. I think if a guy says he's developing feelings etc. he's most likely gay not bi at least that's the way I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bidad61
I'm only interested in servicing his cock.
Great thread!...
As a "mature" guy, I ask myself: What is wrong with affection for other men and between men? I don't think there's anything to fear about it. I don't see love or joy or erotic pleasure as being about either-or.
Sex and sexuality are spectacularly diverse and utterly experiential, that is, defined solely by one's own experience of it. No one can say what your sexuality truly is than YOU! No one can say what your partners' sexuality is than him or her.
I don't think it's a contradiction that you might share some tenderness or erotic bliss with another man and somehow that negates or cancels out your love for women. That's ridiculous. I see all kinds of ways that society forces us to pretend our sexuality is either one way or another -- that you either like guys or girls or you don't. But, as a 58-year-old bisexual man, my experience (and the wisdom I've gained from it) reveals to me that the whole damn world is shades of difference -- delightfully so, and quite the opposite from this either-or thing that so many of us unconsciously buy into.
Personally, the older I get, the hotter I am for men. And still I love women. More even.
Sounds familiar, for me it was early forties but I'm not sure I'd say confused for me, just flat out denial. A life time of denial. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by eager4cum
Each is different but to me bisexual is made up of two parts, sexual attraction and romantic attraction. Together they make up the individual. You can be biromantic and still end up happily married to the opposite sex, it's just that you don't care about the gender and are open to romantic relationships with both. I can see how people would think that if a man ended up having a romantic relationship with another they may be seen as gay but in all reality they're just expressing one side of their sexuality.Quote:
Originally Posted by nu2curious
Just my opinion though but I feel it's a far more complex subject than "I see you have a boyfriend, you must be gay". :)
As a 50 something, I'm definitely more comfortable now with my sexuality and bi urges. There was always something there, but I'd push it away, dreading that I might be gay. If we watch something on TV or a film which has a gay theme, I'll usually get so turned on, sufficient that I'll ask my wife to wank me off and she'll talk about me with other men. I'd love us to hire a male escort for me to play with while she watched, but I think that's likely a step too far for her.
I don't find myself at all attracted to men romantically, and have never looked at any man in the street and thought, "oooh he's hot." On here however, I do, but not sure about seeing a guy's face. That's still strange to me.
Great topic. Thanks for all the sharing.
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I can remember being in the gym locker room one day after PE, and seeing guys walking out of the showers. Like a bolt out of the blue, it hit me that I wanted those cocks in my mouth. It was a fleeting image in my head that wouldn't resurface for years. I have never had any attraction to guys. Just cock. The adult bookstores were the only avenue for exploring porn in those days, but the emergence of AIDS kept me from experimenting with those enticing gloryholes that were so prevalent at the time. However, the sexually charged atmosphere of the arcade booths kept me visiting them any time that I could.
Over time, I realized that I hardly ever saw any obviously gay guys there. Just normal blue and white collar guys that you'd see anywhere in day-to-day life. The same held true no matter where I went. Obviously, there were tons of guys out there who liked cock, who you'd never suspect if you met them anywhere else. To see how quickly they dropped to their knees when offered a nice looking cock was amazing. It seems to have nothing to do with attraction to a person, only what's between their legs. That's certainly true for me. My attraction to cock has certainly grown stronger the older I have gotten. And judging by the demographics of age that I've witnessed in such places, I certainly believe that guys trend more towards cock as they age.
I never considered cock until I learned about tea rooms in a class I took in college. I found it very interesting and have had a few theater booth type encounters but never did much. Too nervous to date I have sucked two cocks but want moreQuote:
Originally Posted by loveatl
"My attraction to cock has certainly grown stronger the older I have gotten. And judging by the demographics of age that I've witnessed in such places, I certainly believe that guys trend more towards cock as they age."
I've seen this all over the internet and it's true, however society has heretofore encouraged female bisexuality while frowning on male bisexuality. We guys have had the short end of things for years IMO. Now things are beginning to change slowly as society is more accepting of the male bi but it starts with each of us accepting our own bisexual feelings.
this is certainly not an orignal observation but i'm a 61 year year old married man whosucked a few cock in adolescence, and did not suck anoyher cock until my fifties at an adult theater turned glory hole and loved it. have hosted a couple of guys in my home and come out as bi to my wife. I do think I "turned' bi in my fifties so much as rediscovered what I've always been.
In my experiences, this isn't really surprising because, before the Internet even existed, I knew of older men who developed a taste for cock and they weren't gay. Thanks to the Internet and forums like this one, you have a lot more visibility of this than ever before and I've heard a lot of reasons for this "late change" from sexless marriages to it being the next sexual thing to do and experience - and, sometimes, shit happens, alcohol gets blamed, up to and including being in the right place at the right time and with the right person - and it's quite a rush to live large parts of your life not even thinking about this... then find out that you missed out on something really special and exciting if you never even got close to having such an experience earlier on.
I'm 41, sitting in a bar having a drink after a horrendous day at work and the guy sitting next to me, who I later learned was in his 60s, starts talking to me and we're having a great conversation and one that somehow turned into him asking me if I ever had a guy suck my cock. I told him that I had (thanks, Scotch) and asked why he was asking and he said, "I want to do it... but I'm not sure why I do!" and, no, I can't honestly say he didn't know because he was a little boozed-up. We go get a room and he sucks me off and before I went to work on him, he said - and, to me, sadly, "I don't know why I never wanted to do that before now - and now I'm mad because I didn't." To me, it was nothing I hadn't seen before.
As someone who has been bi a very long time, this just fascinates me and proves that you can be of any age and discover bisexuality, that and any reason that makes sense to you is a good reason - and even if it doesn't make sense to anyone else. We kinda accept that when we're young men and somewhere around the time puberty slams into us, if we "experiment," it's no big thing but when we become adults, we're supposed to set it aside and do what we're supposed to do as men - deal with women only. What we don't think about so much is that even if you never fooled around when younger, it's not like no one can change their minds about this, even guys who've never done a thing like this until they got much older. You don't always have to be young and insanely horny to want to find out what it's like to be with another man but what we don't know is why the bisexual bug bites some guys early on but can bite guys later on.
So some guys - like me - are early adopters who jumped on the bandwagon and never got off; some guys return to the party after being absent for a few... and some guys are just getting to the party albeit a bit late and the thing that really fascinates the shit out of me is that it just makes sense to do this even though we've grown up knowing that we're not ever supposed to for any reason. Or like an older newbie once told me, "Why not? I've done everything else except this until now..."