Bisexual men and cross-dressing

First, I believe that there is a big difference between cd's and transgender women/men as cd's don't have a need or want to change their gender. They're not transgendered but only expressing another side of themselves, however strong a feeling that may be.

I'm a cd and quite happy being a man. But I have always had a very strong feminine side; I remember I had a crossdressing dream when I was only 3 or 4. Ever since, it's been a part of me, although there were significant amounts of time when I didn't acknowledge it, but only becasue I didn't need to. When I was 12 or so, I started dressing again and have ever since. Now I find I dress for different reasons. I mainly do it because I want to feel feminine and sexy with no sexual overtones. Other times it does have the fetish effect of sexual excitement. But it's all about the context in which I'm doing it, how I feel, and what I want at the time.

I was dressing before I ever began to think of men as potential sexual partners, and I don't think my dressing led to it. It evolved separately, albeit not in a vacuum. Most of the time I prefer to be dressed if I'm with a guy, but it really all depends on the situation. Sometimes it not possible...and that's OK, I can keep that image to myself and still get the same overall effect, if I want. Whether I'm dressed or not, I can still view myself as femme in those situations, if I want to. But even then, I'm an aggressive femme. But sometimes it's just nice for good old man-on-man sex.

So, no I don't believe that all cd's are bi or that all bi guys have to have a femme side. They are two completely separate concepts. But I think a lot of men, straight, bi, or gay are open to it some form or another.

First, I believe that there is a big difference between cd's and transgender women/men as cd's don't have a need or want to change their gender. They're not transgendered but only expressing another side of themselves, however strong a feeling that may be.

I'm a cd and quite happy being a man. But I have always had a very strong feminine side; I remember I had a crossdressing dream when I was only 3 or 4. Ever since, it's been a part of me, although there were significant amounts of time when I didn't acknowledge it, but only becasue I didn't need to. When I was 12 or so, I started dressing again and have ever since. Now I find I dress for different reasons. I mainly do it because I want to feel feminine and sexy with no sexual overtones. Other times it does have the fetish effect of sexual excitement. But it's all about the context in which I'm doing it, how I feel, and what I want at the time.

I was dressing before I ever began to think of men as potential sexual partners, and I don't think my dressing led to it. It evolved separately, albeit not in a vacuum. Most of the time I prefer to be dressed if I'm with a guy, but it really all depends on the situation. Sometimes it not possible...and that's OK, I can keep that image to myself and still get the same overall effect, if I want. Whether I'm dressed or not, I can still view myself as femme in those situations, if I want to. But even then, I'm an aggressive femme. But sometimes it's just nice for good old man-on-man sex.

So, no I don't believe that all cd's are bi or that all bi guys have to have a femme side. They are two completely separate concepts. But I think a lot of men, straight, bi, or gay are open to it some form or another.

So many variations, so little time...

Bi, and gender bending and the clothing that goes with it is all wonderfully tied together for most of us it seems.

DD (yes, not ZP) made me chuckle with his story..
I had a "top" wanted me to wear my Lady's panties, fine, I can do that, but within 10 minutes the "top" is laying down self stroking telling me how he loves to see "Big black cocks, 3 of them, fucking my wife hard" While he watches...

Ahem...some "top"...

A lot of self confusion goes with the basic premise of being willing to submit sexually..

I have a couple pairs of panties, and I love wearing them! I found both of them, used, which adds excitement by wondering what the pussy looked like that was touching these panties!

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Originally Posted by DiamondDog

Seeing men in drag doesn't do much for me.

I know it's based on theater and camp humor but it doesn't do anything for me sexually.

I've put makeup on but that was for halloween costumes and for acting in plays.

I don't have a problem with men dressing in femme drag but it's not something that I personally want to do.

If I were with a guy and during an SM scene he wanted me to humilate him by "forcing" him to put on women's clothing/panties/heavy drag while I gave him sensations I'd think about doing forced feminization to him but I wouldn't want to call him a woman's name, refer to him as a woman just because he's in heavy femme drag, and I wouldn't want to do this all the time to someone.

I'm more into the idea of women dressing up in men's clothing.

A gay friend of mine told me how he once went home with a hot guy and the guy said, "Oh let me freshen up a bit in the bathroom."

My friend waited, and the guy he went home with came out wearing a dress!

My friend didn't expect this, said, "Sorry but you killed it. There's no sense in me sticking around.", and went home.

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what does do anything for you...I used to respect you, but you are so judgemental know that it makes me sick!

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Originally Posted by lovesex86

what does do anything for you...I used to respect you, but you are so judgemental know that it makes me sick!

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What did DiamondDog say to offend you? He was just stating his opinion.

Anyhow, I love androgyny. Something along the lines of old school Bowie or Grace Jones always gets me going. IMO, it takes a certain type of guy to look good cross-dressing.

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Originally Posted by the mage

A lot of self confusion goes with the basic premise of being willing to submit sexually..

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What could this sentence possibly mean?

Well I can answer this in that I occasionally love to dress as a woman and go out and have fun on the town. I don't do it halfway though, panties or stockings don't do it exclusively, I like to be a woman somedays, part of the whole not identifying with one sex or the other and me being bisexual. I love that feeling of being a woman and being taken by men as a woman. But that being said, I am really in to men to men sex too so I just adjust to whomever I am with and their preferences and I am happy all around. I like having sex with men and whether it is my masculine or my feminine self, either way it's all good.

A few years ago my girlfriend put me into a pair of panties ( she knew what I needed beter than I did) I think it helped to bring out my bi and sub feelings, and it is great to secretly wear a lacy thong. Though panties is about as far as I go with cd.

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Originally Posted by wutheringheights

What could this sentence possibly mean?

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Many people, men in particular, cannot deal socially with the admission of sexual submission. Even though they'd love to try it, they don't know how to safely find it or experience it without a resulting life trauma.

Many women (not all) will lose all respect for their man if he were to admit to a desire to "bottom". It can cause love to die.

Power exchange is often a mis-understood thing .

To answer your question..at lease for me, the cross dressing came before I knew that I was bi. Maybe it was from the arousal and I wanter to try more...

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Originally Posted by mike9753

As I read thru the posts I began to wonder what came first - being Bi or Cross Dressing and then being aroused by playing the female role sexually? I have heard of guys who like to dress but are reluctant to act out sexually with a man, but after the first time, they can't get enough.

I maybe like that. I have only dressed in lingerie at times - silky hose, panties, a slip, some lipstick and then I am really turned on about having sex with a man.

So what do you think, what comes first - being Bi or being a Cross Dresser?
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I'm bi and enjoy wearing womens thongs, stockings and boots/heels. I find the larger sizes at Payless. Makes me feel sexy and, sometimes, my lover likes me in them too. Love to feel a little silk or lace against a nice, hard, cock......

I also enjoy wearing womens thongs or most any panties with lace, thigh high stockings and my heels. My lover enjoys feeling me rub the stockings on him and it sure does feel sexy. We both love to feel a little silk or lace against a nice, hard, cock......

Re: Anallust4u....

He's baaaa-aaaack!

Growing up I used to enjoy trying female clothing - At one time very young I could easily pass for female - people used to get soo embarrassed if they figured out I was male but of course I loved every minute of it. To be honest I think I was jealous of how easily women could attract men.

Now, with all of the extra hair an' such I just find it easier to live with the factory installed equipment.

There are times emotionally when I feel more "feminine" or "masculine" - according to the so-called roles society prescribes. I guess everybody has times like those.

And yeah, I still fight internally over letting myself experience those feelings.

personally, never seen the appeal at all in cross dressing. Always thought of it as "if that's what they want to do, that's up to them" sorta thing. Not for me at all.

I'm very much in the men to be men and women to be women school of thought.

Crossdressing does not relate to your sexual preference, they are two separate things. Just because one crossdresses does not mean they are bisexual. Yes you will find many that crossdress are bisexual, but you will also find many who crossdress that are straight, bi curious, or gay. Many men crossdress and its very surprising just how many are expressing that they enjoy crossdressing. Some only wear panties while others wear pantyhose or lingerie and other womans clothing. Crossdressing is such a broad term and many do not understand that it is a broad term and that its totally separate from ones sexual preference. Men from all over the world, of every age, race and background are into crossdressing. Its just like anything someone is into, not everyone is also going to be into it. We are all different and have different interests in life. I have been crossdressing since growing up and my wife knows I enjoy crossdressing and she is very into me dressing up. Its fun and playful for the both of us. We do enjoy meeting others who like to crossdress. Its just like anything that one is into, having others around you that are also into it makes it more fun. Check out our profile for more about us.

What I'm wondering is how common cross-dressing actually is, both for men who otherwise identify as straight, and those who identify as bi?

I would agree with Panty Couple in that I don't think cross-dressing has anything to do with ones sexual preferences.

I consider myself to be a heterosexual male and have cross-dressed most of my life , it has only been recently that I have become curious about learning more about bisexuality.

And to answer the OP's question , I would guess that cross-dressing is a lot more common in todays world than most people would believe , on another forum I am a member of there are a total of 38,360 members with 7,089 members that are active , and that is just one forum.

How many men are cross-dressing that are in the closet and would never talk about their desires in fear of being less of a man in someone else's eyes , I'm sure the true numbers would surprise all of us.

Definitely bi here and cross dressing does absolutely nothing for me. I'm not against anyone who does and respect their interest in doing so. On the other hand though this might seem ridiculous, I love TG...perhaps because with many of them they are so feminine looking; face, body, hands, voice....all of it. And then the biggest surprise when you see a nice cock and balls...it goes against logic but for whatever reason, it turns me on.
This does not take away from my interest in women whatsoever.
But it seems to make more sense than seeing a man dressing as a woman; at least for me.

cross dresser here, part time, but go all the way, so to speak. it's a lot of fun, wife approves and enjoys. I'm a guy's guy too (sans the body hair), just like playing both ways I guess. love to chat over at crossdresser chatcity with the girls from time to time. I'm obsessed with women's fashion and can't stop staring at women's shoes and make-up, lol.

would very much enjoy being with a cross dresser, think its hot for sure..

enjoy watching good porn involving cross-dressing

Recently a former world champion boxer was found to be a crossdresser. There was quite a reaction to that. I too boxed gloden gloves and in the service. I played football, skydived, raced cars and motorcycles, and enjoyed several forms of martial arts. I know several other athletes, some very well known, that love womens clothing in private. I too am a crossdresser and most enjoy this activity with my wife. I'm very comfortable and confident as a man, but love to be able to reach the feminine side. To me, it just seems to be a sensual, sexual, and erotic side that is sexy and fun. Enjoy

Thank God for crossdressers. I think we're the only demographic of society keeping the pantyhose and nylons industry alive since 99% of women hate them. I discovered my bisexuality, feminine feelings and crossdressing at the same point in time.

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Originally Posted by longtimemarriedguy

Recently a former world champion boxer was found to be a crossdresser. There was quite a reaction to that. I too boxed gloden gloves and in the service. I played football, skydived, raced cars and motorcycles, and enjoyed several forms of martial arts. I know several other athletes, some very well known, that love womens clothing in private. I too am a crossdresser and most enjoy this activity with my wife. I'm very comfortable and confident as a man, but love to be able to reach the feminine side. To me, it just seems to be a sensual, sexual, and erotic side that is sexy and fun. Enjoy

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haha, I hear ya on that. I'm a rough and tumble "lawyer" and love to camp, fish, watch football, baseball, smoke any kind of meat, drink beer, boat all over the lake, tailgate at sporting events, etc. I just happen to keep my eyebrows clean, my body relatively hairless and dress up any chance I get. god I love lace, high heels and make up, lol!

the stereotypes out there are worthless... people just don't know how to deal with my ass... (if only they'd ask, haha)

I know what you mean Ashley ,

I ride a Harley , I only drive trucks , I work as a heavy equipment mechanic and have other male dominated hobbies but I do it all wearing and enjoying the comfort of my very feminine lingerie.

I have wondered many times on a motorcycle ride just how many guys could be wearing a bra and panties under their leathers and tuff guy biker gear ?

Six years ago I was in a motorcycle accident and because I shattered my leg, consequently ended up in the hospital. The staff in the emergency department appeared a bit shocked when they took my pants off and found that I was wearing a very cute pair of lacy, white panties. They left me alone for a fairly long time and when my girlfriend showed up, we got the greatest odd looks because we were laughing so hard about their find. Go figure...I was initially embarrassed but quickly got over it! I still ride and I still wear panties all the time.

i was wearing panties when i was a young boy and was turned on so much by the feeling of the lace and silk. now as i am an adult i am still crossdressing and love it very much. my wife has also bought me things and loves seing me all dolled up and we have great sex together.

i now own tons of panties, bras,slips, nighties,lingerie. i love to wear it because it makes me feel all sexy and fem. beside that it is huge turn on for me also.

now as far as the bi part goes. i was 100% str8 and never had any bi or gay sex with men untill my old landlord and i had a romp in the hay, ( that was when i was 18 ) i was very nervous about it having sex with him, but he made me feel totaly comfortable and we were drinking and watching some gay porn, one thing lead to another and we had sex. i kept that to my self for many years untill i got married. then i started having these feelings about being with men. so i talked to my wife about it and she siad, well then, why dont we find us a bi man, well things have been great and we both have great sex with each other and the other person that we are with.

i have had sex with men dressed as a women and also nor dressed, i have found that beind dressded made me feel more sexy and comfortable, not dressed i was not as comfortable. and the bi men only wanted wanted sex with the wife. so if the men can not accept for who and what i am then we dont get with them. all have to be comfortable. so for me the two go hand in hand.:flag3:

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Originally Posted by Committed bi guy

Six years ago I was in a motorcycle accident and because I shattered my leg, consequently ended up in the hospital. The staff in the emergency department appeared a bit shocked when they took my pants off and found that I was wearing a very cute pair of lacy, white panties. They left me alone for a fairly long time and when my girlfriend showed up, we got the greatest odd looks because we were laughing so hard about their find. Go figure...I was initially embarrassed but quickly got over it! I still ride and I still wear panties all the time.

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Hi Commited bi guy,
I'm happy to hear that you have an accepting girlfriend and that your still wearing panties.
I use to worry about that kind of thing but not any more , they are my panties and I don't have any problem wearing them !

There is so much support on this site! And so I am getting more daring with feminine dress, or at least panties; i go out wearing black lace briefs from time to time, very occasionally black thigh highs; under My jeans of course...how liberating! Thank You!

Crossdresser here. When I'm dressed I like to be able to let go and enjoy the fantasy of some man taking me. When I'm not dressed in thigh highs I usually do the taking. ;)

I think bisexuality and cross-dressing are really mutually exclusive. While there going to be some overlaps (people that are bi and also cross dress), I don't think there's any true correlation. I guess maybe we are aware of it more in the alternative lifestyle community, so comparisons to straight "normal" people may be skewed.....

That being said, I've personally had a lifelong love for the idea of being fooled by a crossdresser and after a date, we go to a hotel, passionately kiss and I suckle "her" tits, and when I pull "her" panties down, I am presented with a beautiful surprise.....I also dig the idea of hermaphrodites, but I suspect they are unicorns really, and don't exist.

I am bisexual, only been with few guys. I dont cd, nor does it do anything for me. That being said, I find shemales so hot. To me a passable tranny is hot too.

I'm a Bi male and I enjoy the feel of panties! They feel quite different than mens boxers or tighty whitey's. I do not wear womens clothes. I find myself purchasing mens bikini briefs or thongs to suppliment my underwear needs and love of female panties. I find panties to be more comfortable and sexy feeling. How it is to have somone take your panties down just before......

"Most male to female crossdressers are straight guys that enjoy wearing women's clothing." I agree. For a couple of years I belonged to a chat room with men who loved wearing lingerie. Sadly, most were married, completely straight who couldn't come out to their wives. They usually dressed as a turn on and there was lots of cyber chat leading to orgasms.

I'm orally bi and love my lingerie for wearing around the house, to masturbate in and to have sex in. It's a combination of the sensual fabric on my skin and the nautyness of it. My wife accepts. I do not look nor act fem, but I sometimes feel fem. I long to suck cock while in thigh highs and lingerie. It would move the excitement level up a bit. It certainly does when I make out with and fuck my wife!

Davie

Greetings And High Heels To One And All...
As a "newbie" in here, please allow me to introduce myself.. My name is Rachelle and I am a long time married crossdresser / transgender who is married to a very supportive, accepting, understanding, knowledgeable, and helpful wife who has taught me all the traits to emulate women from presentation, to walking, standing, sitting, mammerisms, make up, hair, nails, etc and from all of tyhis, I have amassed an extremewly large wardrobe including 44 pair of HIGH HEELS and I do mean HIGH, and all of this for me is a lifestyle, and not a hobby, nor a passing fancy /whim.
In addition, I am completely shave, my toe nails are ALWAYS painted, I wear six (6) toe rings, and an anklet, and my eyebrows are plucked - not pencil line thin, but ample that I do get the odd "stare" and that doesn't bother me one iota. I'm proud of being who and what I am.
I currently reside in the Vancouver, B C area and I'm always looking for new chat friends and a possible r/t meeting with same.
But please, no b/s - con artisits, NO drugs, NO smokers..
I'm at Rachelle_InHighHeels@Yahoo.ca
I also have a 175 + pic web site for viewing - only for sincere and honest friends..
Regards,
Rachelle

Hello all,
I am a submissive bottom. I have worn my ex's thongs and g-strings. I have to say they have made me feel very sexy. I do have a femine shaped body anyways. I've learned that in the next town, they have have drag nite's on Wednesday's. I plan on loosing my spare tire and wearing either some really short shorts or a mini skirt with either a thong or g-string on. . I want to see what kind of reaction I receive. When I did wear female panties, it was an automatic hard on lol. I would love for a man to caress my leggs, or caress my ass knowing that I have only a small particle of clothing coming between him and me . I want so much to have a man take me from behind and make me moan with excitement and ecstacy

And as we all know, repetition is the heart of any well-honed argument.

I am a tattooed CD who has been crossdressing just about 6 years off and on mostly on my long weekends. Despite that sounding like a long time, I really am still learning.
I love to crossdress wearing mini skirts, mid thigh dresses, thigh high stockings, hanky panky signature lace 4811 brand panties.

i have only briefly dated 3 guys