Women Showing men How to suck Cock!!

Hav an do often joke an giggle bout mens lakka expertise wen it cums 2 lotsa things in mattas sexual.. mayb 2 much so don deny that..but mosly its jus that.. jokin an gigglin outa gender rivalry is a time honoured past-time wich me luffs dearly.. an it has..moren 1ce led me 2 b accused a bein a man hater.. wich is of course miles off the mark.. don need 2 spend the nite wiv guys 2 like em..jus like me don need 2 fancy a girl 2 like 'er..

But this brill givin head thingie..an who dus it best an who makes the best teacher an so on is all cobblers... DD's claim 2 b wondaful an all so natural is all very well, an it mite well be a fact a life..an if so gud luk 2 'im.. but hav me own views on blow jobs wich don zactly match up wiv 'is cos me standin (or kneelin) from a diff perspective..

Fact is ther r sum of us who can't give decent blow's.. who r no gud at it an neva will b able 2 tease outa a guy that ecstacy for wich 'e reely craves.. an wich women hav striven 2 give em for ages past.. it then becums perfunctory an tho mos guys like it it don set the heather on fire for 'em.. simlarly lotsa guys cudn give a woman decent cunnilingus 2 save ther lives.. that dus not preclude the fact that lotsa guys r ratha gud at it.. the fact that me PREFERS women wen it cums 2 oral sex is relevant.. always hav... cos from MY pointa view.. they r betta at it.. but am mature enuff 2 kno thats as much outa me own preferences as it is a biological, psychological or ne otha kind a fact.. equally me knos that lotsa women r no gud at it for lotsa diff reasons.. lots won even attempt it, jus as they won attempt sukkin a guys cock... its a turn off for em an we havta accept that we not all entirely free in our sexual mores... the restraints a society an its acceptance a wot is as is not nice moren plays its part..

DD makes a claim bout men as teachers.. an in a way he dus hav a point.. from HIS pointa view.. from his personal experience an from wot 'e feels an thinks as a sexual human bein... but 'is claim can no more b accepted as gospel than if me sed women only r gud at given women gud oral sex... we do kno wot we like.. an wen we hav sex we put wot we like inta practice an wen havin sex wiv anotha of our own sex we use in part wot we like wen teasin the best outa our sexual partner.. but sumtimes our partner for woteva reason dus not like wot we r doin..no matta how expertly brilliantly we do it... cos jus as men an women r different from each otha..every woman is diff from every otha woman in 'er needs an wonts, as is every man diff from his peers...

So DD's claim is cobblers an is relevant 2 no 1 but 'imsel...even then is 2 subjective 2 mean very much... only peeps who kno the truth of 'is claim 2 b God's Gift 2 sex r 'is partners whoeva they may b.. 'is own opinion counts for no moren me own dus bout me.. me THINKS me is pretty gud in the sak..me THINKS me can giv me partner a gud time.. only thing me eva knos for sure is wen me has a gud time.. tho genrally ya can tell wenya partner has an all...an hav enuff vanity 2 b pretty sure thats the case.. but me don go bout braggin me so amazin that the world shud b worshippin at me feet... cos wot it all cums down 2 is not wot me thinks.. but those me has had me fun wiv.. ther opinion is wot mattas..thers is the ONLY opinion wich mattas...

DiamondDog,
I was obviously typing my above post to you as you were writing one to me. I left the house right after I submitted my response, having taken a great deal of time to post in a respectful and conciliatory tone. Now I return home to find this nasty and condescending missive from you waiting for me. It is very obvious to me that when you feel your opinions are being attacked or when someone doesn't necessarily agree with your statements, you choose to read other meaning into what they say. After taking a bit of time to temper myself, I would like to take this opportunity to speak to certain things that you presume to know about me.

I also eschew labels, I never said anything to the contrary. While I am often labeled as "straight" I prefer to consider myself "sexually open" and still on a journey to discover more about myself and my sexuality. I have NEVER stated that I found BDSM to be repulsive nor have I ever sat in judgment of those who enjoy it. If a person enjoys such activities, who am I to judge, much less put down. The ONLY reason I ever mention BDSM in regards to you is that while you profess to know so much about the abilities of women in regards to sex, you, yourself, have stated that the only time that you enjoy women is in a submissive role. That hardly gives you the first hand experience to sit in judgment of the sexual activities between a man and a woman, much less criticize women about their sexual abilities. I am not ignorant nor am I closed minded. I have never claimed to be an expert on anything and I only speak about what I know of personally. Honestly, I don't give a damn what you do in your personal life and I would be the last person to put you down because of it. You, on the other hand, continue to put me down and make assumptions about my private life that you have no way of knowing. I abhor stereotyping people and I specifically hate when those that do, choose to make blanket statements because of those stereotypes. You can deny it all you wish, but you obviously have some sort of bias against women and your many posts reek of stereotyping them. You have definitely stereotyped me. How do you surmise that I am into "vanilla" sex? Is it by virtue of the fact that I am a "straight", middle aged, suburban housewife and mother and grandmother? Just because I prefer to keep the details about my sex life private, it doesn't give you the right to draw conclusions as to what takes place behind closed doors.

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Your ignorance doesn't even warrant a reply like this. I will say this though; you don't seem to judge other men or other people here who prefer doing bondage/SM with only men or with both genders, so please don't do the same with me.

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DiamondDog, I have no problem with you or with your sexual practices. Actually I don't give a rat's ass if you like being hog tied and hung from the rafters or whether you prefer having sex missionary style. To each his own and if you have found something that brings you pleasure then go for it. I am more than happy for you. What you do in your private life with your partners is your business and your business alone. All I am asking is for the same respect from you.

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Originally Posted by DiamondDog

Heterosex (sex between one man and one woman) may be spiritual but it's not as powerful or as spiritual as bisex (like a MMF 3 way) or homosexual sex that's with two or more men in an all male situation/environment where the sexual energy and camaraderie between men multiplies!

Then there are the meditative states and states that mimic psychedelics and spirituality that myself and other men have gotten into while giving/getting/69'ing with men that I've never got from doing any of that with a woman at all.

it seems totally natural how a man's mouth & a penis fit together & connect as if--dare I say it?--the are made for each other!

In fact, my feeling is that humans’ sexuality has not been primarily about reproduction for a long time. Particularly now, when the planet is so overpopulated with humans & in rather dire straits, I feel men must be encouraged to share erotic pleasure for its own sake with fellow men. Men really want a lot more touch, more intense physical, erotic ecstasy than they are getting in most cases.

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Once again you are speaking YOUR opinion and while I honor your right to do so, don't try to use this argument to further negate the way myself or others live our lives. I am happy you find bisex so fulfilling. I certainly hope all people find a way of life that suits them as much as yours suits you. But just because it works for you doesn't mean it is proof positive that it's the only way.

Once again I am asking you to open up your mind a bit. Don't be so quick to judge and by all means remember that your opinion is merely that...an opinion that you hold fast to and truly believe. You cannot expect people to always agree with you and when you attempt to force your beliefs, especially in the form of the diatribes that you have posted, it will only make you seem bitter and hateful towards others.

Kate

Kate...Allbi......My dear friends......I have been watching this post since day one....You know, me being a woman that loves men (one especially)...and all that is attched to them....:tongue:

I would like say to both of you....and to all of you, actually.......BRAVO!!.....
Can't we all be just exactly who we are and all get along.....

Come on DD we really are a fun group :grouphug:!


Ladyd :)

I am sorry, DD, but what you are writing sounds like an inferiority complex. There are both men and women who are very good at oral sex with men and the same applies to oral sex with women. There are also both men and women who really (pardon the pun) suck at it, don't like it and don't even want to have anything to do with it. No one is going to take you seriously if you keep insisting on this ridiculous position..

Bree

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Originally Posted by DiamondDog

Um what?

I'm not attracted to older/geriatric women at all, certainly not women who don't have any teeth, and I don't have incest fantasies about my grandparents at all nor do I desire sex with any relatives and my grandparents don't wear dentures.

What I wrote is the truth even if yourself and others don't want to believe it.

Women just don't know how to please a man as well as other men do when it comes to masturbatory sex, oral sex, and probably even anal sex as well since toys don't compare to a real penis, a woman doesn't have a penis, and a woman doesn't have a prostate or know what a prostate orgasm is like.

Only a man understands what it's like to have a penis or use it, and it's like how a man doesn't understand what it's like to have a clitoris, what a clitoral orgasm is like vs. a g-spot orgasm, as well as another woman does.

Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.

Annika L has written about how only other women really know how to give excellent oral sex to women and I agree with this and nobody flipped out at her posts about this or when Darkeyes has written this.

Only a man really understand a penis. Plus probably only another woman really gets a clit. I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.

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Boy, I never actually gave thought to this, because I doubt the opportunity would ever present itself.

However it's not so much as a woman showing a man how to suck cock, but the whole sharing a cock that sounds hot as hell. And you can't tell me that you know it all and there's nothing to TRY and learn ^^

OMG Brenda that is so so hot.. I have had some experience with that teaching my husband my techniques and I must say I was totally turned on by it. And I know he loved it sharing that with him is so intimate. Especially the first few times.

Although I must say, we have been sharing a cock now for several months and now we give each other ideas and try them out together ... he does have some nice ones :tongue:

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Well, I must say the best blowjob that i have ever gotten was from a woman. I do find the idea of sucking cock with a woman helping me vey hot. You can always learn new things no matter how long you have been doing it

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Although I must say, we have been sharing a cock now for several months and now we give each other ideas and try them out together ... he does have some nice ones :tongue::bigrin:

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I think stargazer has said it all. A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing". Sharing and learning skills from one another sounds so much more erotic and sensual and is something that I am sure many of us would like to experience. We can always learn something new and unique from our partners the same way they can learn from us and it's far more pleasurable than making it a "who does it better" issue.:2cents:

Kate

Never did that but it sounds exciting! I can always learn something new, never get enough education LOL! I have no issues with that my experiences have showed me that not all men know how to suck a cock right, some are too rough, some just don't know what the heck is going on. I'm always open to be taught new and ddifferent techniques and styles.
Any teachers out there willing to set up a study hall?????????????;)

I'd love to be sucked off by a woman and watched by another woman. I think that is every man's sexual fantasy. Or being sucked by one woman, and sucking on the other woman's pussy. Great sexual pleasure can be shared by anyone who wants it and is open minded enough to find it. I just haven't had the pleasure of finding two women to share my sexual pleasures that way. I also have no objection to sucking on another guys peter alone or with his wife. Sexual pleasure to me is just that. I'd be thankful just to find it. If there is a woman who wants to give me blowjob lessons, please contact me. I'm ready.:tongue:

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A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing". Sharing and learning skills from one another sounds so much more erotic and sensual and is something that I am sure many of us would like to experience. We can always learn something new and unique from our partners the same way they can learn from us and it's far more pleasurable than making it a "who does it better" issue.:2cents:

Kate

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Thank You Kate, I am sorry if I created such controversy about the who should be "teaching" who. Stargazer has said it best I totally agree :bigrin::)

Thank you all for all of your comments :grouphug:

Brenda

I would love a gal to teach me how her man likes to get his cock sucked .....and I would fight her all night long for it !!!

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Originally Posted by Brenda66

Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

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Very hot! Honestly I think guys suck cock better than woman but the idea of a woman getting into to the point of wanting to show a guy how to suck cock is a big turn on! The thought of her grabbing the other cock and guiding me with her hand on the back of my head is very hot!

Personally I think the idea of a woman showing a guy how to get fucked is even hottier!

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Originally Posted by Brenda66

Thank You Kate, I am sorry if I created such controversy about the who should be "teaching" who. Stargazer has said it best I totally agree :bigrin::)

Thank you all for all of your comments :grouphug:

Brenda

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Brenda,
Please don't feel you're at fault for the controversy...you asked a very simple question that just got taken out of context and became something it shouldn't have been. So glad to see so many positive responses to your original question and glad it has been so well received.

Hugs,
Kate

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Kate Thank You you are so sweet
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Brenda

Hmmmmm, to tell you the truth, Diamond Dog's dialogues sound Awfully familiar. And the speech pattern rings a familiar bell. And some of the references made as well.......
And yes, the superior tone is evidently there as well. I dont care if you Are a Dom, a good Dom does not flaunt his supposed superiority and make people feel like some type of sub-species..Or make himself look like a bad Dom at the same time.
It doesnt matter who sucks better as long as it gets done! lol.
Lighten up.
Cat

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Originally Posted by Brenda66

Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

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Brenda

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Oh, Brenda, this is incredibly sexy! For me, as a mostly hetero, and dominant guy to have my bisexuality explosed and surrendered to in this way is incredibly exciting! You know you have my imagination jumping... From the moment you make me strip in front of the other men, and choose the man you want me to work with...I've only done this a few times before, and i don't thin i'm very good at it, yet. I wish everyonec couldn't see how much i want htis, but I have no way to hide my own erection... God, his cock is sooo big, and thick, even with the fosreskin pulled back. Brenda, do you think i can really get it all in? Deep? I WANT it all in my throat... I'm afraid of what happens when he comes, which is funny, since I've always insisted that the girls I feed swallow everything.... Ooh Brenda...what's happening.... Mmm.

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Originally Posted by csrakate

I think stargazer has said it all. A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing".
Kate

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Phooey! People need to lighten up a bit, and not take everything so seriously. Now, the teacher-student relationship, especially in sex, is a dominance/submission rleationship. If one never plays with D/S, then they mmight not recognize it's a role playing issue. Its a very mild dominance relationship, and a lot of women enjoy when a man takes the lead or plays 'teacher' without realizing that it's a dominance thing. I think some guys who also don't realize it's a role-play get offended at the implied submission. In real life, however, everybody can teach someone about something, and every new social or sexual expereicne is anew learning expereince, so, hey, I'm up to be taught. One of the fun things about the student role, btw, is that the teacher has all the responsibility. I could suck and swallow a whole classroom and afterwards say, I didn't desire it--i was just doing what teacher said to. Did I do good, teacher?

Wow, I can't believe how much black screen-ink got devoted to this topic. I've always felt the other person's argument goes right out the window the moment they say "always" or "never". The world ain't all black and white. What may be reality for you ain't necessarily so for me. DD's point may be
generally true, but it is certainly not an absolute, as he attempts to claim. Men do have an certain advantage in having a penis, but frankly the best blowjob I ever got was from a woman. How interesting that someone who has never met me claims to know more about what I like than I do. Oh well. One thing I can say with certainty. More research on this topic is necessary, and I will not rest until I have personally resolved this dispute ! (Now accepting applications for Research Assistants.)

i want to be shown how to suck a cock ..that would be sooo hot...have her tellme toswallow and everything!!!

All I will add to this discussion is to say to DD----you cannot make sweeping statements as you do---as others have noted-----there are women who are expert at giving fellatio and men who are as well----and women who don't know how to do it and men who don't---it really depends on the attitude of the person giving the joy!!

They don't have to have bring much actual knowledge or expertise to the "job"--they just have to bring some excitement and gusto for their "work"--and just keep the teeth away from sensitive areas!!! LOL The best way to learn how to fellate is on the job training, but getting some tips from someone who has experience---of any gender sure is a good thing!!!!

Diamond--stop making your sweeping proclamations about things-----the things you have experienced are your experiences--and that is all well and good for you since they are your experiences---but your way is not the only way----it does get tiring that you continually do this.

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All I will add to this discussion is to say to DD----you cannot make sweeping statements as you do---as others have noted-----there are women who are expert at giving fellatio and men who are as well----and women who don't know how to do it and men who don't---it really depends on the attitude of the person giving the joy!!

They don't have to have bring much actual knowledge or expertise to the "job"--they just have to bring some excitement and gusto for their "work"--and just keep the teeth away from sensitive areas!!! LOL The best way to learn how to fellate is on the job training, but getting some tips from someone who has experience---of any gender sure is a good thing!!!!

Diamond--stop making your sweeping proclamations about things-----the things you have experienced are your experiences--and that is all well and good for you since they are your experiences---but your way is not the only way----it does get tiring that you continually do this.

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I'm not the only man who has written here in this thread about how men give far better oral sex than women can.

I'll tell you what, I won't put my pearls before swine anymore.

You can get all the mediocre and just plain bad oral sex from women that you want and I'll still be getting and giving the best oral sex to men that's free of ego games and spiritually transcends anything that a woman can only try to do to a man! ;)

uh-oh, I smell another reality show coming, The Bisexual World Cup Sucking Championship! The women against the men. Hmmm, I'll have think about this for awhile. Where would it be held? How would the competition be set up?

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Originally Posted by Brenda66

Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

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do you know any women in the bay giving lessons

don't know where it will be held, or how the competition will be set up? butt i'de put my money on our dd. sheer confidence alone seem's to me he thinks he's got the title in the bag:bigrin: so where do i place my bet ?

sis

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You can get all the mediocre and just plain bad oral sex from women that you want and I'll still be getting and giving the best oral sex to men that's free of ego games and spiritually transcends anything that a woman can only try to do to a man! ;)

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Boy DD you have an astonishing EGO. I agree with Volty when he said your wonderful experiences are that....YOURS. For you to make those impertinent generalizations only shows your bolstered opinion of yourself. Man how does your head ( I mean the one on top of your neck) fit through any door you try to walk in?

As those who may be familiar with the Food Networks show....THROWDOWN....maybe we should have a contest...since you think you are so superior in performance....maybe you could compete. What the heck I shall offer myself up as the first female challenger. I am not afraid of a challenge. Now......all we need are volunteers. Any takers!!!

Belle

i'm with you belle, wadda ya say, "lets slay flay":female::female::female:

sis

So D.D.'s not going to cast his pearls before us swine anymore, huh ? Somehow, I think that ain't gonna last long.

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So D.D.'s not going to cast his pearls before us swine anymore, huh ? Somehow, I think that ain't gonna last long.

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I hope that is true. Because on some issues, I agree with him and I do not care if I am in the minority on this issue.

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uh-oh, I smell another reality show coming, The Bisexual World Cup Sucking Championship! The women against the men. Hmmm, I'll have think about this for awhile. Where would it be held? How would the competition be set up?

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Fifteen blindfolded heterosexual males, all similarly built and equipped, sitting in circle of chairs all facing outward from the center. Hanging from the ceiling is a giant timer. The contestants enter to music, alterantely boy/girl, take their positions and at the sound of the gong, get to work. What are the categories for the winner? Fastest ejaculation time? Slowest ejaculation time? Most orgasms within a given time? Most sperm volume milked out? First one to get their partner to pass out?

Anyway, afterwards, we interview the men & see which can tell if he had a man, and he's given the opportunity to do it again if he wants to. In the winner's suite, of course, on satin pillows, surrounded by beautiful swimsuit models, while the world watched on TV...

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Boy DD you have an astonishing EGO. I agree with Volty when he said your wonderful experiences are that....YOURS. For you to make those impertinent generalizations only shows your bolstered opinion of yourself. Man how does your head ( I mean the one on top of your neck) fit through any door you try to walk in?

As those who may be familiar with the Food Networks show....THROWDOWN....maybe we should have a contest...since you think you are so superior in performance....maybe you could compete. What the heck I shall offer myself up as the first female challenger. I am not afraid of a challenge. Now......all we need are volunteers. Any takers!!!

Belle

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I'm not the only one here who has written about this topic and said how
women are clueless about sucking cock. There are even other women who have written about this topic on this forum.

Most women I know are quite mature & experienced & they tend to acknowledge that a man can understand a penis better than any woman.

I don't care if it's not PC since it's the truth! ;)

Nobody seems to get mad or play ego games when bi/lesbian women say how only women are adept and are a lot better at giving oral sex to other women than men are.

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Fifteen blindfolded heterosexual males, all similarly built and equipped, sitting in circle of chairs all facing outward from the center. Hanging from the ceiling is a giant timer. The contestants enter to music, alterantely boy/girl, take their positions and at the sound of the gong, get to work. What are the categories for the winner? Fastest ejaculation time? Slowest ejaculation time? Most orgasms within a given time? Most sperm volume milked out? First one to get their partner to pass out?

Anyway, afterwards, we interview the men & see which can tell if he had a man, and he's given the opportunity to do it again if he wants to. In the winner's suite, of course, on satin pillows, surrounded by beautiful swimsuit models, while the world watched on TV...

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What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.

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What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.

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Can think of quite a few gay an bi guys who wudn mind a twirl wiv sum str8 guys... in me own case can think a quite a few women who r str8 me has fancied a dally wiv... not so daft as 2 say they eva wud..but attraction is attraction.. an me knos wot an who me is attracted 2...

Hav role played a lil fantasy or 2 in the bedroom from time 2 time.. an the conversion "fantasy" is jus that..a fantasy like ne otha... mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong:.. an we very happy tyvm.:bigrin:

..an the las bit DD hun is not even worthy of a reply...:rolleyes:

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mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong::bigrin:

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I'm still straight. I bowed to the inevitable for an easy life.:(;)

And its hell Kate.:)

I would love it if my wife wanted to teach me how to suck cock, but I am not sure she has much experience ...my interest in the subject matter (I can almost taste it) would probably make me more skilled than her. How ironic, she has all the opportunity and I am just dying for the chance to learn...especially with another first timer ..with both our partners watching..I would even settle for cyberhead if such a thing exists.

I think it is Totally Hot.... whether or not "teaching" is the correct adjective,
I don't think matters.
Completely turns me on.

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What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.

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DD--It would have to be straight guys, since bi/gay guys would be able to tell the difference from expereince. Besides, the look on the straight guy's faces makes better TV. Dude, lighten up! This is just fun, a fantasy. Stupid bar talk. Nobody's doing it for real or even suggesting it. (Although I'm still turned on by Brenda the teacher). And you know, now that I think about it, the best head comes from the person you're turned on by the most, not thier gender.

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Hav role played a lil fantasy or 2 in the bedroom from time 2 time.. an the conversion "fantasy" is jus that..a fantasy like ne otha... mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong:.. an we very happy tyvm.:bigrin:

..an the las bit DD hun is not even worthy of a reply...:rolleyes:

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Damn, darkeyes, I love your accent! If I were a woman I'd marry you! But you know, I've known a few girls seduced (even raped!) by other women, and it really messed them up emotionally. It is a hot fantasy, but the reality ain't so pretty.

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Damn, darkeyes, I love your accent! If I were a woman I'd marry you! But you know, I've known a few girls seduced (even raped!) by other women, and it really messed them up emotionally. It is a hot fantasy, but the reality ain't so pretty.

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Raped?? Wivout soundin obvious, rape, by man or woman 2 man or woman is enuff 2 mess ne 1 up emotionally an psychologically... hav seduced..an been seduced (usually more like they thot me wos bein seduced.. but not always) in me life.. wile it has neva harmed me emotionally ther hav been 1 or 2 less than nice experiences wich me wud ratha avoid repeatin.. but can c wy some women do get harmed emotionally an psycologically.. not every woman, or man for that matta is rite for a same sex encounter... our culture in itsel is a grave obstacle. Shame, disgust sumtimes follow... 1ce or twice me knos the object of me desire has wakened up in the mornin an jus cudn get way fast enuff.. cos consciense kikked in allied 2 fear an loathin of themselvs, me an wot they had dun..no matta how luffly the actual experience a seduction an luff makin.. so yas rite..sumtimes the reality can hav damagin effects on sum of us..

...an if ya wer a woman ya wudn... not unless ya wan 2 risk Naggy's wrath... she not a non violent pacifist like me... certainly not wen she is upset... me seen 'er in full cry..its luffly but its not summat me recommends...:tong:;):bigrin:

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Originally Posted by darkeyes

Raped?? Wivout soundin obvious, rape, by man or woman 2 man or woman is enuff 2 mess ne 1 up emotionally an psychologically... hav seduced..an been seduced (usually more like they thot me wos bein seduced.. but not always) in me life.. wile it has neva harmed me emotionally ther hav been 1 or 2 less than nice experiences wich me wud ratha avoid repeatin.. but can c wy some women do get harmed emotionally an psycologically.. not every woman, or man for that matta is rite for a same sex encounter... our culture in itsel is a grave obstacle. Shame, disgust sumtimes follow... 1ce or twice me knos the object of me desire has wakened up in the mornin an jus cudn get way fast enuff.. cos consciense kikked in allied 2 fear an loathin of themselvs, me an wot they had dun..no matta how luffly the actual experience a seduction an luff makin.. so yas rite..sumtimes the reality can hav damagin effects on sum of us..

...an if ya wer a woman ya wudn... not unless ya wan 2 risk Naggy's wrath... she not a non violent pacifist like me... certainly not wen she is upset... me seen 'er in full cry..its luffly but its not summat me recommends...:tong:;):bigrin:

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Thing is, there's seduction, then there's seduction. The fun fantasy, swept off your feet kind, but there's also the kind where a person gets manipulated into doing something they really didn't want to do. Trouble with the second sort is that the victim often feels it's somethign they did rather than something done to them. Well, all of this is way off the topic. Lets get back to seducing my confliced lips and tongue to doing something that the women wat to see as much as my body wants to do (even if I jump out of bed as soon as I'm satisfied!).

As far as you and your Naggy, I'll marry you both! Don't want to make her cry, now...