Never had a guy wearing women cloths. May be fun.
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Never had a guy wearing women cloths. May be fun.
Yay for you, Bi-Ten! I'm glad you had a great time. :bigrin: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bi-ten
I'm a crossdresser and bi. I discovered both about myself arround the same time during my teens. It's so much fun to play with gender. As well who can go through a cold winter without a warm pair of tights ;)
I admit I am not as big on the clothes as I am on the makeup. To me, this is the hottest expression of cross dressing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...enderbends.jpg
A little bit of makeup goes SUCH a long way with me.
*Taylor*
I'm Bi, been married twice, divorced twice, am now a grandfather and since about 15 years old have had lots of male lovers. Persuaded into frillies by an older lover when I was in my thirties. Loved it. It made me feel so submissive. Still great friends with my second ex-wife, to whom I confessed all about my dressing and Bi feelings. She is totally supportive, helps me buy clothes and advises me on make-up etc. I now live alone and can indulge to my hearts content. however, I would NEVER go out dressed, but have a few admirers who visit occasonally and certainly get 'turned on' by my undies, perfume, make-up etc. :)
I have indulged in it but it was a passing fancy.
I have had occasion to play with a couple guys who CD. For them being "caught" as a female, and the ensuing submission, is an incredible turn on for them and me too. The mind at work....
Well theres nothing wrong with men who cross dress.. I love cross dressers, drag queens and drag kings.
Being Transexual is not the same as transvestites. I've noticed that some posters have called transgendered men and women as "that word which i hate"
Maybe a bit of tollerance and the correct words are in order. Please be aware that there is trans men and transwomen on this site.
Sorry.....
If i ever got married i'd wear a suit.. Who's to say its gonna be a womans lol...
I agree with Taylor....the right makeup on a guy is really hot. That's one of the things I miss about the 80's....the whole androgyny thing. It's a look I could never pull off myself, but I always admired those who could and did. As for cross dressing, when I want to see that I'll turn to the people who really do it right. (I turn on Monty Python) :bigrin: But the guy in Taylor's pic should stop biting his nails and go get a manicure. Bad nails on man or woman is so ewwwwww.
I think genderfuck is sexy. Really, isn't a strap-on is kinda like female drag? lol.
For me, the CD thing is tied in a lot to with a dom/sub rough sex thing. Being a little slut whore for a top guy or a strap-on gal. It's only an occasional fantasy, though. Not an everyday thing. I like the younger CDs who look good doing it, like this: http://www.transdream.com/djs/images/Img121.jpg
Not the guys who look like Chris Farley in a wig with lipstick.
Oh god yes!!! that picture rocks beyond words... Genderfucks oh yes oh yes oh yes. That picture alone is sending my signals all over the place. Great find@ ziggybabie.
I agree in part with what you said, i guess thats why i like cross dressers.
I liked the first picture but its too subtle, but the second picture hmm yeah lol that does it. :tongue::tongue::tongue:
I've experimented with it a little, for the sensations of wearing a tight two-piece swimsuit and just curiosity. I hadn't done it for ages but then I did it twice in the last week, coincidentally. I don't consider the little I did to be anything substantial.
The first time I looked at that gaylikegirl.com photo, earlier today, I wasn't turned on but this second time I definitely am. I've been to that website before but it didn't arouse me. I might visit it again to try again :)
I bisexual and I'm not into cross dressing, but I always liked sexy underwear. For me a big turn-on is a nice looking man or woman wearing sexy underwear and I love wearing thongs and bikini underwear. However there is something about wearing nice silk women underwear that makes me relax (yes like johnny deep in Ed Wood) and makes me feel good about myself. I guess is like everything in life there is a wide spectrum in every group and there are no absolutes. That is human nature.
Well, as for me if I have to be a "bottom" and get it in my behind, then I would receive it as a "girl", same for oral sex. I do cross dress a lot, shave my whole body, wear bikini panties,mini skirts,wig & make up. I enjoy imensally being a girl for my boy friend and he loves it. In case you are wondering, my wife knows and actualy buy the stuff I need and loves to see me dressed up! By the way, we share the same guy.
If I have to have sex with another guy, then I'd rather have it as a "girl"
I dress up in mini skirts,bikini panties,wig & make up and my boyfriend loves it!
I also shave my whole body to look like more a women! I love to have him
put his hands inside my skirt and caress my ass under my panties! This is only one of so manny joy in cross dressing!
Every Halloween, and sometimes just because.
Confused? Nah, just slightly genderqueer :bigrin:
Every girlfriend I have I end up sharing clothes with.
Nice post Ziggybaby! I enjoy imagining being the crossdresser as well as imagining being the guy. I guess I'm bigendered as well as bisexual which is fine with me.
I also love women (preferably bisexual) who are turned on by watching not only bisexual guys together but also turned on by crossdressers. I enjoy being a man, but I also equally enjoy being dressed as a woman, thus the bigendered status.
Time for a cold shower, LOL!
Love this thread!
Well, I like THAT picture... it's very.... (see post below) 80's. It's THAT kind of androgyny that turns me on the most...
Yeah.. Christian really needs to have gone to the manicurist... or mabye he was bored at the bus stop. :p
*Taylor*
That's awesome. lol.
Oh, and Taylor....Speaking of the 80s, you can't get much more androgynous looking than this (haha):
http://www.hezcatt.com/uploaded_images/mc-768218.jpg
And they're such a "macho" band, too.
As I read thru the posts I began to wonder what came first - being Bi or Cross Dressing and then being aroused by playing the female role sexually? I have heard of guys who like to dress but are reluctant to act out sexually with a man, but after the first time, they can't get enough.
I maybe like that. I have only dressed in lingerie at times - silky hose, panties, a slip, some lipstick and then I am really turned on about having sex with a man.
So what do you think, what comes first - being Bi or being a Cross Dresser?
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Mike
Of course being biexual came first. I believe all humans are born bisexuals, some evolve more of it than others. I have never dressed up as a girl but have only thought of doing it for halloween last year but was too scared because I would probably get beat up after work since i had to work that day but i could dress up for work or i was also scared if i got picked up or kidnapped after work, lol! Oh the drama :tongue: I would try it on a halloween day i don't work or for a cd only party. I think it would be fun.
The only make up I ever did used was acne medicine that looks like make up but I only used it once and wasn't very happy cuz i got people staring at my face so I was going to college and as soon as I got there went to the WC and washed up and got rid of that acne medicine.
I think you'll appreciate this...
My former voice teacher labeled me "the Exception". She said most people, when they take formal voice training, expand their range upward.
I didn't. I expanded my range downward, inching toward tenor. When she said that, I felt so proud I could burst.
*Taylor*
For the ones who dont know what the term "gender fuck" is...
dabbling in the typical gender roles and sexual identities to include the following- drag queens, drag kings, cross dressers, and of course transgenders.
Gender benders also fit nicely into the termonology.
Genderqueer or intergender is a catchall term for gender identities other than masculine or feminine. People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as being both masculine and feminine, as being neither masculine nor feminine, as having a combination of masculine and feminine personality characteristics, or as falling completely outside the gender binary. (taken from wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderfuck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boi_%28gender%29
This is an interesting topic for me... I have always known I was bi (since I was interested in sex anyway) but until recently would have said I wasn't interested in crossdressers....
However I now find the man in my life happens to be a CD... and its great! I love helping find outfits etc... its like having a 2nd girlfriend lol. Theres so much more available for females to wear ;-)
Its been an education, especially seeing ladies come and chat him up...
I think cross-dressing is completely different from bisexual, etc.
Cross-dressers get sexual excitement out of wearing women's clothes. This is often confused with transgendered people as well.
With transgendered people, we do NOT cross-dress since we identify with the sex that we dress as. AND we are not "excited" (at least sexually) by dressing. I actually feel calm, comfortable, NORMAL and HAPPY. when dressed as a male, I feel uncomfortable. That is NOT what cross-dressers feel.
To me bisexuality is also different but of course there are bisexual cross-dressers. Generally the two aren't even related....
Bree
I'm a Transgendered Woman (Non op Transsexual) and I never cross dress at anytime before transitioning. The day I have discovered myself is the day Delilah was born instantly.
I don't get aroused wearing any women's attire. I get aroused smelling a man's sporty calogne...lol But anyways, I don't have any sexual urges to get off on women's attire. When I get home from work, I can't wait to rip of my panty hose...lol You can see a trail of clothing from the front door to my bedroom (of course I pick them up, silly). :bigrin:
Nope, no cross dressing jollies. I'm male.
One time many years ago my wife put on my underwear and I put her panties on in humor, but it didn't do a sexual thing for me. It was just funny at the moment.
It does it for me. I am typing this wearing my brand new black lacy suspender belt and matching thong with black stockings that arrived today. I can't stop feeling the material. It feels great on my penis. I started a thread called "Christmas stocking" when i first started considering buying underware but i only had 2 replies. This will not be my last underware set.
hmmm.. seems like, last count, i know personally about 6 CD guys.. and only 2 of them identify as bisexual...the rest, as i've read thru here it's been explained quite well, all just love wearing womens clothing to one degree or another....
trans gendered folk? maybe i know like another 6 or so, and only 1 has ever claimed to be bisexual.. the others, all felt they were in the wrong body...and most likely were/are...
like i said way back when...treat them as the person and gender they identify as and everyone will be a whole lot happier....:2cents:
Cd vs Tg - I dont think the line is that clear.... I have talked to quite a few people in this category and even they can't agree 100% on a definition...
All the CDs I know I would consider bi - they are men who enjoy sexual activities with other men. You are correct however in saying that many don't consider themselves bi. There may well be straight CDs but I am yet to meet one...
Each person has their own ideas on being Cd/Tg - much the same as bi's vary widely in their preferences and opinions.
In the end as yuo said getting to know the person is far more important than any label they or anyone else may apply
I agree that labels (as always) never accurately reflect the people they are applied to. Some people identify as being BOTH male AND female or at least partially and they may cross-dress. However, they are usually happy with being either sex inwardly or outwardly. But, I believe that TG refers to people who specifically feel that their 'assigned' sex does not match their inner sex and seek to change the outward to match the inward. They do NOT cross-dress but dress appropriate for their gender identity... That is why I believe that while they are often lumped together, they are actually completely different phenomena...
my :2cents:
Bree
I am definitely into cross dressing, and of course, am Bi as well. I don't think Bi and CD go together as some CD's are not bi. Love the pantyhose.
Good question. I had a fellow ask me to dress for him so I wore a pair of black pantyhose red nightgown and red panties. His eyes about fell out..He got what he wanted but had to work for it
Seeing men in drag doesn't do much for me.
I know it's based on theater and camp humor but it doesn't do anything for me sexually.
I've put makeup on but that was for halloween costumes and for acting in plays.
I don't have a problem with men dressing in femme drag but it's not something that I personally want to do.
If I were with a guy and during an SM scene he wanted me to humilate him by "forcing" him to put on women's clothing/panties/heavy drag while I gave him sensations I'd think about doing forced feminization to him but I wouldn't want to call him a woman's name, refer to him as a woman just because he's in heavy femme drag, and I wouldn't want to do this all the time to someone.
I'm more into the idea of women dressing up in men's clothing.
A gay friend of mine told me how he once went home with a hot guy and the guy said, "Oh let me freshen up a bit in the bathroom."
My friend waited, and the guy he went home with came out wearing a dress!
My friend didn't expect this, said, "Sorry but you killed it. There's no sense in me sticking around.", and went home.
I may be like Mike as well as i do enjoy hose, and it makes me feel fem and want cock
I've actually done drag-work semi-professionally and really enjoyed the entire ritual. Cross-dressing can be carried out with a diversity of intentions. There are those who feel a significant sexual change or satisfaction associated with particular clothing; there are those who use it to parody the general issue of gender and sexual 'difference'; there are those who simply enjoy certain kinds of makeup and clothing that are conventionally reserved for the other sex. Personally, I'd love people to be able to wear/not wear makeup or various articles of clothing depending upon their own aesthetic tastes as opposed to generalized cultural prescription.... but then, in many ways, we wear clothes in the first place due to cultural convention. How about one big wide naked world!.... and with a little makeup maybe.
For me----I have absolutely zero interest in cross dressing in any form--not that my view is any sort of knock against those who do like it---it is just that I simply have no interest in it at all---it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round and whatever floats your boat---more power to ya--play safe and have fun!!!!!:bigrin::bigrin::tongue::tongue: