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The best way to answer this is to look up the laws where you live to see what legally constitutes incest and what doesn't. Yet and still, regardless to what the law says, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear
One friend with whom I've shared several intimate moments, has a half-brother who he's played with since they were both young, although they're separated by about 6 years. His brother eventually embraced crossdressing and shaved his body to affect a feminine appearance during sex. But they sucked each other's cocks many years before one of them moved to a different state.
By coincidence, they're planning to get together this weekend, and my friend is hoping to renew his acquaintance with the cock that he became so familiar with over they years.
I guess that this is technically incest, but I don't have any negative thoughts about it. There's no danger of mixing genes causing some kind of inbreeding, the way it could happen with a M-F incestuous relationship.
I got .y start with an older sister. When we were alone, during baby sitting, she would insist on giving me a bath. She would get me naked and put me in the tub, while she undressed to join me. She would wash me real good, and insisted my penis h as d to be clean, so she could suck it. It felt wonderful, but I didn't cum. She gave me my first orgasm, at 13 years old. I cum in her mouth. It felt fantastic and I wanted more. She sucked me often, and eventually I got to lick her pussy. This progressed to fucking. She would put a rubber on me and we would fuck. She got many orgasms that way. She got married and we continued for years... I'm still fucking her and she loves it....
Brother and brother here.... our hormones were racing and seemed a good way to enjoy. We sucked each other often for years. Nice to think back at all the joy we had during those times.
Biguyincolorado said, "Brother and brother here.... our hormones were racing and seemed a good way to enjoy. We sucked each other often for years. Nice to think back at all the joy we had during those times."
Yes. The same with me and my brother.
My biological sister and I have been having sex since our mid-teens. She is only 13 months older than me, but growing up, we were always very close. After high school, she went her way to college, as did I. The difference was that she went down to New Orleans, while I went to school locally. Even during those days, when she would come home, she would want to get together. I suspect she is bi. I know that she only likes to have MF sex with me. She has told me that numerous times because she feels safe.
Even though I have had many lovers over the last 20 years, she is and always will be my rock. It's amazing that god could pack that much love and passion into a 5'1" lady...
We are both Alpha personalities, she is very successful and highly intelligent. She's had many relationships too, but, I guess they don't measure up to her standards. I've been satisfying her since she was old enough to be satisfied, so I guess that makes me the lucky winner.
Never would consider my mom or dad... but, if you ever saw my sis in a string bikini, all bets are off. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear
One of the guys I grew up with used to fuck his mom rather regularly; she was an alcoholic and, later in my life and remembering this, I thought she may have had other related issues but, yeah, she'd get drunk and he'd fuck her. Those of us who knew said, "Ew!" but again, it wasn't until I was much older before I understood it and why he would say that he had to take care of his mom because he was the "man of the house" and, the one thing we all did know, no man wanted anything to do with her.
I've seen my mom in bra and panties and never had an erotic thought about her; hah, I got woke up in the middle of the night because I heard something, went to see what the noise was, and saw mom and dad getting in on big time and, well, wasn't that something? Still no erotic thoughts about either of them but everyone else was... fair game.
I remember sucking my cousin one summer night behind grandparents house. That same weekend I watched both cousins fuck my sister while she leaned forward against the back wall of the house. Wish they would've fucked me too.
I had a big operation when I was 13 and Mom used to help me go to sleep by rubbing my bacjk and shoulders with her hand and fingers very lightly, it felt good. My aunt, her youngest sister came for a visit and at bedtme I called for mom to do my back but she sent in her sister. She was hot, about 29m well built and since it was summer was wearing her bikini top with short shorts when she came in and sat on the edge of the bed and started my light massage. She was good and I told her that it felt real good and she murmured, I can make you feel real good and her fingers inched to my back side and along my side and tol;e me turn over. All I wore at night were a loose fitting pair of boxers and her fingers went striatn to my scrotum and up and down my dick which had grown erect, She smiled, licked her lips and put her hair back with a tie and leaned over to kiss the head of my cock with her lips, I quivered with pleasure as she took my dick all the way in her mouth and started sucking up and down. Being thirteen I didn't last long and came in her mouth as she gulpe it all down. After a peck on my cheek she left and i rolled over to sleep. Next morning she had left early and at breakfast Mom asled if Bonnie had made me feel good with my massage and I grinned and said, yes, she really made me feel good.
I get that your friend used to fuck his mom because he felt that it was his duty to be the man of the house. I can't see that other men didn't want her though.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDaddy23
When I was in my early teens, real early, my younger brother and I started experiencing with playing with each other although I initiated the playing. I was surprised how receptive he was. He told me pur older cousin had started with him. We sucked each other for several years till I moved away after HS graduation. I also had an uncle who was in his 20s that visited on occasion and the only place we had for him to sleep was in my bed. I guess I was 9 years old or so. Anyway one night I felt his hand reach over and touch my cock. It was a surprise but I let him play because it felt good. Then he took my hand and put it on his cock. Omg at that age it felt huge. I was a little tentative but he showed me how to rub it. Needless to say I enjoyed it. So we became good friends after that. We had several experiences like that.
"I can't see that other men didn't want her though." jjourneyman, she was... a mess. A chronic alcoholic and I would often hear the men, when they gathered to talk shit and gossip, say some pretty shitty things about her and how they wouldn't want to be bothered with her and all of her problems and I guess that she had other issues other than drinking heavily almost all of the time. The thing I was learning was that everyone was fair game even if it was forbidden and it seemed to me that the more forbidden something was, the more so folks wanted to do it and, if nothing else, it was teaching me that sex isn't what everyone says it is - it's a whole lot more and that even though we have rules about this, they don't trump human nature.
We... stick our heads in the sand about such things. Like, my sister was giving me a blowjob and, well, it was a girl giving me a blowjob - she just happened to also be my sister. Same with having sex with my brother - the only difference between him and all the other guys I was having sex with was... he was my brother but that didn't make him as "off limits" as we were told it was. So I understood, even in a "limited" way why this friend was screwing his mom, not because of the reason he gave but the ugly truth is that she was female, he was male and, well, take it from there. And he was just as bisexual as the rest of us were. This topic comes up and I am privileged to read what get said and I don't find anything unusual about how so many of us got to be bisexual and especially early on.
do you think your mom knew that her sister sucked you off ? do you think maybe that's why your mom sent her in there ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waylon
How do you guys handle the risk of pregnancy, assuming she?s not at menopause yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by jjourneyman
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Originally Posted by darkeyes
The law apart, if two individuals are not related by blood, how is that ?Incest?? Is A had an adopted sister, and they gad sex, how could that be @incest??
She has an implant and I use a condom (sometimes).Quote:
Originally Posted by dowmass
I guess technically I lost my virginity to my cousin. Her parents and brother went out for a few hours (to the mall or somthing). We were 8 and 9. It was a different time then where parents left young kids alone.
Anyhow she said "my dad has a 'dirty' video tape" we watched it for about a half an hour and decided to try what the grown ups on the video were doing.
We got scared because she bled (obviously i popped her cherry) so we stopped. A few years later we 69ed when we were sharing a tent camping.
The idea of incest is a turn on though.
@dowmass, if they're not blood relatives, then it's not incest. There's the letter of the law and the spirit of it; if you had sex with a step-brother or sister, many would consider it to be incest because they're family members - but not blood relatives. I had two step-sisters I used to screw every chance I got and felt "okay" about because they weren't a blood relative. If my mom and their dad had found out, there would have been hell to pay but, as one of my sergeants used to say, "It ain't illegal unless you get caught!"
Exactly right. I would not consider sex between ?Step? folks having sex as incest.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDaddy23
Similarly if one was a biological child of a set of parents and the other person is ?adopted?, that kind of sex would not be incest. Thats my opinion.
Now Society may view it differently, but who cares? sex is sex and sex is fun!.
None of my cousins were near enough in age for me for there to be mutually interested in each other for anything to happen, which is unfortunate because the thought is exciting and two of them grew up to be pretty hot. That ship has probably sailed though.
I've also been finding my niece pretty attractive since she turned 18. I feel a little guilty about it, but it is what it is.
You can think whatever you want to and that's not a crime that I'm aware of... but what you do is something else. We... are about the relationship aspects which makes anyone not see others as men and women. You shouldn't look at, say, your sister and your mind says, "Damn, she's hot! If she wasn't my sister, I'd fuck her!" and if you do, chances are you'd feel guilty for looking at your sister as... a hot and desirable female and which she most certainly is... because you also know that if you do - or try to do - what you're thinking, going to hell will be like going on a nice vacation if (1) she rats you out for hitting on her like that or (2) you get caught having sex with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey1N
Having said that - and keeping in mind why the laws are the way they are, do they really apply when the relative you're thinking about having sex with - or are having it with - is male? Technically, it does because sex between men is both immoral and illegal both orally and anally and depending on where you happen to live and all that. But, if your brother fills your ass with hard dick and hot cum, eh, what's the big deal? It's not like you're gonna get pregnant, right? If you look at your brother or cousin or some other male relative and your mind says, "Man, I'd love to get with them!" then all it is... is what you're thinking but there is guilt associated just the same.
If neither person minds, does it really matter? Morality and the law says it has to matter... but human nature can have a different take on this.
I am an only child. It is hard to tell what might have happened if not.
I started sucking off my first cousin when we were 14. His cock was the first I ever sucked. Obviously, since we were a couple of horny teens I spent a lot of time sucking his cock after that lol. I ended up being his regular cocksucker from then on until he experienced some medical issues in his mid-40s that required him to stop sexual activity.
I also dated a female 2nd cousin for about 9 months. We fucked like rabbits. For both of us the fact that we were related was a big turn on. We fucked on the first date. My parents kept reminding me that she was my cousin, but hers seemed fine with it, so we spent most of our time at her house. When we went of to her bedroom to fuck her parents never said a thing.
That's hot that her parents knew she was upstairs fucking. That would be a huge turn on for me as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by swvsucker
Incest it far more that about the law or blood. Family relationships can be independent of consanguinity.Quote:
Originally Posted by dowmass
Incest can be damaging because of the betrayal of trust and taking advantage of the vulnerability of a child to pressures them to keep it secret. Obviously not all incest is damaging as there are many stories here to show that. Yet I have known people that were pressured into sex and the need to keep it quiet turned int deep shame. My FWB was pressured into a MM relationship as teen. He won't tell me much about it but it is obvious that it has damaged his ability to have relationships.
When I was 16 my moms brother came and lived with us. I caught him jacking off one day and he asked if I?d like to touch it. Well after a few times it progressed into him fucking my mouth and every once in awhile he would jack me off. I have a small cock and he used to call me his bitch and he wanted to fuck my mouth pussy. He moved away after a few months and I didn?t see him or do anything like it for 30 years. Then out of the blue he called and said he was in town and always wanted to hook up with me again. I was married then but I was game. We got together and same thing. He stroked my cock twice and I blew a load the likes I hadn?t since I was young. There?s way more to this but I don?t want to go on and on.
Let's hear it CoHo
Yeah, coho - tell it all!
And there's that, too. I know guys and gals who were forced into it and it did not go well for them and they continue to carry the shame and guilt and the sense of betrayal and great distrust. But this is why we talk about this because if someone was "forced" in this way, being able to speak about it - and not get their ass kicked - can go a long way to get that monkey off their back and knowing that it wasn't their fault. They'll never forget it but to not be bothered by it? That always works. But any form of sexual abuse is just... some seriously fucked up shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jozyxt
In new zealand, in any case of incest, where the male can be blamed for it, the male will be blamed........yet when its two females or the older person is female, people are less likely to be as judgemental
I knew for years that my sister wanted to fuck my brains out, but it was not about sex, it was about security and safety for her. In her eyes, I would never mistreat or abuse her or use her the way many others would......and she was open about it, something that caused many people to look at her sideways and near immediately try and blame it on me because I am 12 years older than her, therefore it must have been me that wanted sex with her, completely ignoring the fact that she was open about the fact that I would not have sex with her........
As a woman, yes my sister was extremely attractive and desirable, and I was attracted to her, as a male....but people would twist that into * OMG, you want to fuck your sister, you sick perv * and that was BS I honestly did not need or want, plus its me that would have ended up in jail simply because I am male......
I have always used the rule of thumb which is most people would be fine fucking a family member or relation if they had no idea they were related, because it would be viewed as MM/MF/FF sex.... thats based on the cases of incest where two consenting adults have been in a relationship and in some cases having kids together, before they found out the truth, they were actually related.....and in NZ the cases of people that have no idea who their family members are ( father unknown / siblings that they did not know about etc), is on the rise......
The two females in my closed group relationship of my partner, another male and two females, are mother and daughter ( daughter is an adult and the sexual contact was started by her as an adult ) and in fact I had no idea for the first 6 months... but their reasoning is they are both tired of other peoples lies, abuse, mistreatment and games, they are two consenting adults that want affection, love, intimacy and sex.....
If things were different, would I have entered into a relationship with my sister if it was legal???? ahhh most likely....we were both pretty much estranged from the rest of the family and only had each other as family, there was mutual feelings....but both of us did need counselling and therapy, her for drug abuse and using sex as a form of self harm and self abuse, and me for a diagnosed neurological disorder, and ironically in a way, we were each others only lifeline, each others rock and safe place........
So yeah for me, its not always about sex when it comes to incest, tho in cases, yes its purely sex and pleasure.......sometimes its more about finding what we seek in another person, that we can not find in anybody else.......
Absolutely right. The discussion should always be open and accepting.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDaddy23
i have never had sex with a member of my family, but for some reason , i find it one of the hottest fantasies iv'e ever had. i have written to some of the men here ,who have had sex with their mom. it's not as rare as you might think. it all depends on the attitude of the mom while she raises her sons. nudity is always common , and liberal , and that eventually gives way to touching , and then sex. the guys have told me that they were never damaged emotionally , but have only fond memories of the good times they had. i bet a lot of you can relate .
@Long Duck Dong, my sister had similar sentiments about who she could trust and who would treat her right. When she had strongly suggested that we fuck - and a day or so after I ate her for my first time doing that (interesting story that I've shared here) - I was leery because all I could think about was our mom catching us and I might die. What convinced me was her saying that even though we'd often fight like cats and dogs, she trusted me and knew - and hoped - that I wouldn't be like the other boys who she let fuck her. I thought, "Well, okay, if that's how she really feels..." and verbally said okay and off we went to "consummate" our agreement. It felt right and wrong at the same time and, not to sound pornographic, but the way she moaned, groaned, and writhed under me "told" me that we were doing the right thing, well, until, oh, maybe a month or so later, I questioned if we were really doing the right thing and she uttered her "famous" words to me about it. She felt safer with me than any other guy so, yeah, I'd say that while the sex was good and very intimate, as the big brother, I had a duty to keep her safe.
there has been a few but my first time in the 70's i had the fastest car in town. and a guy from out of town came looking for me. didn't find me but when i found out i said screw it and went to his town. and pulled into their drive in and there it was a 70 boss 302 mustang. we raced and i beat him bad. but he spun bad or i think he may have beat me. but thats not why we are here. anyway went back to the drive in got my money. went to the restroom came back out and in my car was one OMG sexy little thing in my car. i kicked my friend out and her and i went and parked and fucked. i went back a few times and we fucked every time. then i met her dad. we laughed and i told him i already got tickets to the football game and i would tell her when we stopped to eat. but we didn't go to the game we went parking. and i was going to tell her. i really was. but she said she wanted to try something she never tried before. she wanted to try anal and she thinks i would take it easy with her. i think i was 16 and she just turned 15 that week. anyways not telling her anything until i get that ass. so i got in her and she was loving it. and i leaned into her neck and licked and kissed it and ask do you like it and said oh yes. then we got in doggie and i started riding her and it seemed the harder i rode her the more she liked it. i leaned over and licked and kissed her neck again and said i got to tell you something. well to somethings. one is i'm about to cum. she said ok and about that time i started unloading in her sexy little ass. she rolled over and i was young and still hard and slid in her pussy and kissed her licked her tits and neck and leaned in and said the 2nd thing is you are my cousin. the next thing i knew my ass was bouncing off the roof of my car. she kicked me off her so fast. we ended up fucking a few more times over the years. but it was never as good the night i told her.
When you are young that's one thing, because you are all growing up, likely curious and you only HAVE access to a limited pool of folks to play doctor with. If you are now a grown adult you have access to literally anyone else in the gene pool who is horny and interested.
It's a pretty popular fantasy judging by the number of videos on the pr0nhubs but it should remain a fantasy. If she's of legal age I can't tell you otherwise but I'll only say that young people deserve to be loved for more than just what their bodies can do.
If I wasn't taken advantage of at 7 I likely wouldn't have had to pick my self esteem up off the floor at 30. I was intensely curious before puberty, and a horny little hamster during .. but I didn't dare act on it because a few insecure, abusive men destroyed my ability to reach out and trust other men. I hated them as much as I loved and fantasized about them. Which is a shitty way to grow up. I am really fortunate in my adult life to finally find some decent male role models that helped me understand all stereotypes we grow up with are not real.
Had a cousin had a reputation (deserved, but blown out of proportion) for being promiscous that I jacked off thinking about, but I'd never have actually done anything with her. No attraction whatsoever to any of my male relatives, though.
I sucked off a cousin several times
Never have myself, but I found out years ago a friend of mine that I grew up with .
His mother had sex with him and his brother for years and no one knew .
That's kinda crazy.
as I have related many times here my older cousin was first to suck me and me him then fucked me a lot that summer.. I also fucked his sister quite a few times that summer.. have been fucked by a couple other cousins over the years.. still see one ever now and again.. was fucked by my brother in laws and father in law for about 8 years while married to their sister and daughter.. the first time with them we were hunting deer and I was working my way down a ridge and heard noise in a draw.. so I sneaks down and there is my father in law getting a blow from his sons.. so I walk into the clearing and scared the shit out of them.. they were all naked and didn’t know what to do.. I liked what I saw and told them to relax and even went to my father in law and told him that he was going to fuck me.. needless to say they all three took turns and fucked me till it started getting dark so we got dressed and went to the cabin and spent the night getting fucked.. we didn’t get much hunting done after that.. I never left the cabin or even got dressed till we left.. hunting and camping was always very interesting after that..
If my first experience hadn't started out abusive I might have really liked it, but no "adult" ever did anything "inappropriate" with me, it was the kids man
The young girls and boys who would pull down their pants and show me, or have me show them, the horny boys who wanted me to sniff, or lick or touch something. The boy in the high school locker room who used to shower naked in plain view of the entire row, the other boy who up and kissed me right in front of everyone else there too, my best friend we used to dry hump because we had no clue exactly that sex was but we wanted to try it, my teenage uncle who wanted me to suck, the babysitter's kids in the back of the pickup where the boy wanted me to touch and lick him and his sister seemed to like to watch.
And you all crazy people who act like nobody has genitals, making me constantly want to stare at other people's crotches growing up because I was just fascinated by what could be in there .. as if i didn't know, but I was just amazed by all the different sizes and shapes, and the fact that it was so taboo.
And it was painful, having to tear down all of my foundational beliefs and rebuild them all from scratch - but I guess 40 years later I'm finally pretty happy with who I've become.
To start with I no longer believe that people are BORN bad, that's just ridiculous. Nor do I believe that you can ever be separate and apart from that which created you.
For many years I suffered, going around believing I was damaged goods, that nobody would want me. .
After much studying, reading, meditating, praying for healing I was very fortunate to have a tantric experience which I'll only describe as about 200% better than an actual orgasm. I went away on vacation and couldn't touch myself for about two weeks, came home and I denied myself masturbation one more time when I was really horny.
All that energy that would normally flow out during sex instead went inside. It was amazing to feel whole, connected and one with all of creation. To share love and gratitude, to nuzzle the energy, rather than the physical. To finally feel playful joy at my male side rather than the shame of not being able to live up to what I THOUGHT were other people's expectations.
It took every ounce of willpower I had to tame my ego, I certainly wouldn't recommend driving a car or operating heavy machinery while you are a human who feels whole, powerful and connected to all of creation.
Eventually the experience faded and was replaced again by the fuzziness and weight of the physical veil doing the job it was designed to do - but now any time I feel lonely, or stumbling, or unsure of myself I just think back to how it felt to be connected, whole and sharing love.
I suspect we are all a LOT more connected then folks like to admit.