womans views on bi guys

So I just want to further this a bit. With regards to sexual politics, for almost all of the FFM pornography I have seen, there is a power dynamic between the man and the two women. Usually they are there "performing" for him at his request. And then perhaps later turn their attention to him both.

This implies that the fellow is in control and calling the shots. Were a woman to be in the same position, it would be a different story. Then she would be in a position of power, telling her "boys" what to do. Some men may not object to this, some especially submissives might even welcome it.

But the other problem with the MMF/FFM switch dynamic is, I believe, is at some level the str8 guy knows his woman will have fun with a woman, but will ultimately return to him. In situations where I have read that the woman chooses to forsake men altogether, the man gets really threatened. He doesn't want his woman to leave but at the same time he knows he can't possible compete with a woman. Only she knows how to pleasure another woman. This may be what frightens some women with bisexual men. Will he just give up women altogether?

And the last piece has to do with sexual politics. Somehow a woman with another woman, according to a number of lesbian feminist studies can be trivialized as irrelevant, because, in a Freudian sense, there is no penis --- therefore it can't be REAL sex. But 2 penises, that's for sure REAL sex, and two men. The hierarchy of men within society doesn't allow for men to be soft, yielding, vulnerable, crying, able to moan (whether in pleasure or pain) and to be fucked in the ass -- the ultimate insult of being a FAG is to place one's self in the position of being the "woman" and therefore weaker and irrelevant. The fear is that once a man queers himself down with another man, whether sucking his cock or having his cock sucked, he is just a hop, skip and ajump away from being ass-fucked and therefore made into a woman and therefore made weaker and less powerful. And no man, no person wants to be made weak or powerless.
I have one last thought.

MM sex or MMF sex could also be seen as a powerful reaffirmation of the two males masculinity, rather than it diminishing them both it could augment them both. Also when the power dynamic within society generally is more balanced and more women hold positions of power. So far to date there has been no major female political figure in the States for example, the most powerful country on the planet. When that gender imbalance is cured, more women will feel empowered enough to entertain the fantasy of 2 men in her bed for her disposal and men will feel the freedom to being the willing sexual serfs, without feeling emasculated or castrated.

I am female and love the idea of my boyfriend being with another guy. I think it is such a turn on. Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents. But there are girls out there who love two men together...

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I am married and I would find it a HUGE turn on to see him with another man... :drool: We are built for pleasure and it's all good in my opinion. We watch str8, gay and bi movies together and find it all to be very erotic. In fact, I think mm interactions in movies are so much more genuine, because, well, it's a lot easier to tell just how turned on they are! :male: We share all of our fantasies and are finding that we are both equally bi. Thinking of him with another man drives me just as crazy as him wanting to see me with another woman!

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:flag2: :male: I wish that my wife and I had a similar relationship. I am bisexual and for many years longed for another bisexual man to complete a stable triad where we shared a common bed and sexual activites. For a while we did search for on, but eventually gave up. Now, though she is still understanding, my wife is not longer interested in a polyamorous releationship. oralbradley@yahoo.com

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Originally Posted by a_piuy

Well, it is obvious that MM is not as accepted as FF......it is just part of a taboo

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This was certainly true at swinging parties when we were going. My wife was expected to get it on with other women, but we were asked not to come back when I sucked a cock in an MFM 3-some in the group grope.

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Originally Posted by rayosytruenos

Hi!

For what I've read in this thread, it seems that when women are bisexual themselves, they are more understanding about men being bisexuals too.

Second, they seem to be not only more understanding but also more turned on by watching their hubbies engaged in male to male sex than straight women.

But Jo's post is unique as he described how his wife was first really aroused by her husband's bisexuality, but later on, she changed her mind to the point of being disgusted by the same that turned her on before... Not sure if that was the reason of their divorce or not...

ray

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:flag3: :male: All of this seems to be true te life; at least my life. When we were going to swinging parties, my wife certainly enjoyed herself with other women. Although she never joined me while I had sex with another man, we did look for a bisexual guy to make a stable 3-some.
Later, she changed and now won't even watch sex-flix with me, and she used to get literally dripping at times. She is still generally supportive, but we are both very wary of the possibility of disease.

Sorry to say this but (and it might offend some) I find both offensive and not a turn on. Both mm and ff. I don't find either a turn on. (if some don't now married to a man who just came out to me) Actually I have watch porn of both and it does nothing for my sex drive. Even the mf does nothing for me.. Now give me a good romance novel with a little sex written in and that will turn me on. The written word with my Imagination does the trick for me. I am one not of visual stimulation but mental.

As a bi guy married to a very str8 woman that does not appreciate my sexuality, I just want to say I'd love it if my wife was OK with it. What a huge relief but also such a turn on for ME if I knew she got turned on in return by watching me with another guy. Wow! If only..............

I have to say, having read some recent posts previous to this one, especially the one with Oral Bradley and the experience with swingers -- some of the biggest hypocrites -- that the fear around MMF or MM sex is all about politics. It's just sexual politics. When women DEMAND more power and DEMAND to be pleasured in the same way a str8 guy would demand 2 females to suck him off and then play with each other, the environment will be different. I'm positive of it.

Diddy,

You bring up a lot of great points about politics and power. But Oral Bradley hit the nail on the head: disease.

For almost all types of sexually transmitted disease -- crabs, herpes, syphilis, gonnorhea, HIV, warts, mosculum, you name it -- male-male sex, especially anal sex (even with a condom), is many times more likely to result in transmission of disease than male-female sex. There are two reasons for the higher risk of MMF than FFM.

First, biology. The penis is uniquely capable of transmitting disease through semen and seminal fluid, because it literally shoots its semen out into another person's body (be it the mouth or anus). Put two penises together and you've got more biological scenarios of transmission. Also, anal sex is particularly bad because the rectal lining is delicate and breaks easily, meaning that the penis can secrete its fluids directly into the bottom's bloodstream, and the bottom's rectal secretions can more easily seep into abrasions in the top's penis. A condom helps, but -- here's the bad news -- some studies find that in anal sex condoms have a 10-15% failure rate, mostly because the anus is so tight and the friction is not anatomically accounted for in the way our bodies evolved. Lubricant could help, but lubricant can also irritate the sensitive mucous membranes in the rectum and the penis' meatus, and if mucous membrane is irritated, there are more porous openings for pathogens (viruses or bacteria) to pass through and infect.

Second, there's the difference in sexual culture. If you are able to find a man who'll have sex with your husband, the chances are that the other man has already been inducted into the world of gay sex. Gay and bisexual men, on average, have hundreds of times more partners during their lifetime than straight men; so even if a bi man has only had sex with two men in his lifetime, there is a high chance those two men have had a combined sexual history of 1,000 or more partners.

This translates into a daunting roster of diseases you have to worry about. Look at the statistics: Gay men and bisexual men with predominant gay leanings make up about 2.5% of the population but they account for 45% of all HIV cases in the US and a majority of sexually acquired HIV cases. About 9 in 10 adult males in the US are straight, but only about 1 in 9 HIV-positive men who acquired the virus through sex are straight. While 25% of the adult population has been exposed to genital herpes, about two thirds of adult gay males have genital herpes. And orally transmitted syphilis is so rare in the heterosexual population that it's impossible to measure, yet among gay men it is one of the most urgent health threats.

As a married bi man whose wife has been okay with the idea of getting it on with a guy, I have to say that the health risks are the only things that continue to hold me back. I don't know where I can find another man whom I trust enough to have potentially hazardous sex with.

J

Sorry Folks...I know I'm not a female, but had to comment. I really ejoyed all of your imput on the issue. My ex wife was the only person I exercised my bisexuality with or even admitted it to. Not only was it special to give her something I know most guys won't consider but she in turn made the whole thing complete ! we shared men and sometimes she watched,but whatever the situation it was the ULTIMATE intimacy a couple could share ! It's good to know so many are so supportive and approving. Before I located this website, I feared that she was a once in a lifetime opportunity and now I know that this does not have to be the closing of a newly opened chapter in my life. It was just starting to get interesting ! (wink ) Thanks Ladies ! & ROCK ON !

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Diddy,

You bring up a lot of great points about politics and power. But Oral Bradley hit the nail on the head: disease.

As a married bi man whose wife has been okay with the idea of getting it on with a guy, I have to say that the health risks are the only things that continue to hold me back. I don't know where I can find another man whom I trust enough to have potentially hazardous sex with.

J

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GREAT perspective and statistics - sometimes a reality check is a good reminder.

I'm a very lucky guy - married to a mostly straight wife who is very understanding of my sexuality, and loves to watch too! An easy way to get her gushing. I rather wish she was bi too....but that's another story.

Thing is, both of us are in medicine, and understand the risks implicitly. We're very circumspect about our partners (and, to date, it's been 'partner'). We don't terribly like the idea of one-nighters, and prefer friendships - so we offer testing of ourselves up front, and want testing of people with whom we meet. This is arduous, and a bit of a buzzkill, but it does offer some measure of security for all parties (though not completely). Even with that, condoms are not negotiable - they are utilized, period. Sex should be enjoyable, not fatal.

Understanding straight women are out there - just have to look far enough.

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my wife is straight, and has no wish to join in with any other kind of sex apart from one to one with each other, but she knows i am bi, and go out to meet other bi/gay guys and have sex with them. she then gets a real turn on out of me giving her the details of what i have been up to, whether just oral or full sex with other guys, and that's when we have our best sex. she is 49 and i am 51. she does not want me to bring other guys home for sex, either threesomes or one to one, just for me to talk about it and get her in the mood.
does anyone else have this kind of wife?
john

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I do John. Alec

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For what I've read in this thread, it seems that when women are bisexual themselves, they are more understanding about men being bisexuals too.

Second, they seem to be not only more understanding but also more turned on by watching their hubbies engaged in male to male sex than straight women.

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Sorry Ray..but I must take exception to this just a bit. Straight women may not find male to male sex a turn on...but in many cases, it goes deeper than the fact that they are straight. It has to do with what they were raised to believe...what society has dictated as the norm.

As a "straight" woman married to a bisexual man, I very often consented to viewing same sex porn with my husband because I believed that it was the right thing for me to do for him. I "watched", but very often I did so with my eyes averted from the screen and my affect rather flat and non-responsive. Why??? At the time I just thought it was because i found it far too different for me to understand....but as I have grown a bit more in my understanding of myself, I realized it was because I didn't WANT to find it a turn on. I was afraid to watch because I didn't WANT to be aroused by it. I had been raised to believe that "nice" girls didn't get aroused by such things..."nice" girls grew up to be wives and mothers (and successful career women...don't think that I am THAT old fashioned!!) and to acknowledge their sexuality was to acknowledge a character flaw.

Lucky for me (and for my husband) I have had a change of heart. I can now acknowledge myself as a sexual being, a woman who may label herself as straight, but a woman who is now open to other possibilities as her kids grow more independant and as her focus shifts more inward. I no longer watch same sex porn with my fingers over my eyes...as a matter of fact, I often sit straight up in the bed and watch with great interest! I am no longer fenced in by those "societal norms". I am free to appreciate myself and my husband as well as us as a couple...two people who love sex and find that our imaginations can lead us to greater heights! I may not be speaking for the majority of straight women married to bi men, but I do want to let it be known that it is possible to have the best of both worlds...but that it takes good communication, active imaginations, and loving hearts to achieve this result. I am lucky that i married a man who was patient enough to allow me to arrive at that point at my own pace...one who didn't push or complain...and now one who is very happy and quite satisfied on all counts. Who knows what tomorrow may bring? All that I know is that I am no longer afraid to be me!

Hugs,
Kate

I've known bi women who told me they weren't comfortable dating bi guys; said they wanted monogamy and couldn't expect it from bi men. (Flame me not, I merely report this.)

As for me, I think bi men are hot, and there aren't nearly enough out ones, ah well.

The question you ask is not ann asy one to answer to this arena as I believe that most of us who come here, have a natural disposition towards the acceptance of each other's sexual preference.

The str8 women I know even when approaching the subject all think that's not natural to see 2 men together. The reverse situation is not met with the same disdain.

I think that, this being a man's world, or at least until the 1970s before the pill and the woman`s lib movement came around, the society's accepted general sexual preferences had evolved from a very masculine point of vue. And let's face it, what is more macho than sharing your bed with 2 women.

Men admiting to having even a slight attraction to other men werre ostracized. Today, you may not necessarily be ostracized but you are subjected to walk around with the "gay" label over your head.

Women that accept male bisexualism is really not the norm, or at least not when I was dating in my 20s.

Just my opinion, I may be wrong as I have been wrong b4.

DM

now i am a 26 yr old bisexual woman who is turned on by the idea of two men having sex.....if there are many of us out there we dont seem to be recognized....the only thing that i can state as a theory as to why it seems to be so is that according to society there are people out there that think anal sex is dirty and shouldnt be done at all....i guess the rest of it has to do with the way we are controlled by media which seem to be controlled by mostly men who are stuck in their ways but at least now there is a movie out that depicts two manly men in a sexual way thats mainstream...hope this helps

"…sexuality can change with time, even from being straight to bisexual to gay or the other way around. I've always thought that sexuality is not fixed and that our likes can change from one day to the following, from one minute to the next."

The more I accept my bicuriosity and potential bisexuality the more I believe in the aforementioned statement. Growing up in a strict Christian environment, all aspects of sexuality were off limits to me, therefore causing a lot of discomfort with anything different than what was considered "normal." To be honest, I basically grew up feeling pretty asexual as sex was not discussed beyond what not to do.

As I got older and separated myself from that environment, my feelings changed considerably. I'm much more comfortable around people of different sexual persuasions and have begun opening up to my own sexuality. I believe that we're basically spiritual beings who connect to each other first and foremost on that level, regardless of gender.

It's a shame that people have to be labeled one thing or another, but unfortunately, society has deemed certain things acceptable and others not. The good thing is that society's views can—and do—change over time. Religion, on the other hand, is a whole 'nother story. :rolleyes:

To finally answer the question, I don't really know how I'd feel dealing with a bi- guy, as the whole MM thing is still growing on me. It sounds great in theory to be with someone who can relate on both levels, but since I'm still new at all this, I'll have to maintain a wait and see attitude.

[QUOTE=. So far to date there has been no major female political figure in the States for example, the most powerful country on the planet.[/QUOTE]

I really dig everything else you've said, but I take issue with this quote. Hillary, Condaleeza? Barbara Boxer? While obviously no female has been president or been a Senator for decades, there are quite a few females who wield more power than most. :2cents:

at first, i passed this thread by becuase i figured it would raise my tendency to rant against my percieved slights by "normal" society agianst bisexuality.

then , i started carefully reading the responses, and i'm now glad i have.

as a single, a swinger, and a bisexual, i've run into a lot of the prejudices that have been stated here. yes, swingers , for the most part are the biggest hypocrites in the sexually free world. i too have been given the bums rush when engaging in MM play at a few orgies. but, as stated elsewhere, women are expected to engage in FF acts for the enjoyment of their male onlookers and partners. how skewed and pathetic these people are. it's also the reason that when i'm asked to reccomend a swingers group in my area i steer people away from the one "shining example of hedonism" in the area.. tho founded by a very bi man, and now run by a staff of political wannabes, it is now not at all tolerant of bisexuality in men, but expects it of all women members. and yes, sexual politics have come into play almost everywhere..it has literally taken me years to find several groups that are tolerant of alternative sexualities, and mean it, not just mouth the platitudes of tolerance, only to revile those who take them at thier word.

also, ever see an interesting profile that screams "NO SINGLE MEN? " or " NO BI MEN"? do you have that on yours? yet want wife or hubby to perform in same sex acts, with you as the 3rd member? isn't that a form of hypocrisy or predjudice too? [ see, i started ranting again and dialed it back]

what i think is the right form of answer here is an amalgam of diddy, johhnyv, kate and one or two others.. yes, it is an unjust and dangerous world. yes people are cruel to those whose lifestyles or ideals are not in line with theirs.. what we have to remember, and do, is to reinforce our understanding of others and their cultures.. not base our reactions on a narrow field of view that may have been driven into us in childhood and still holds sway in our adult ways of thinking.

MM or FF is and can be a beautiful and powerful thing. forcing someone into this situation is reprehensible, and should not be at all tolerated in our society. our applause and support should be given to those who have found themselves with a bi partner and have opened their minds enough to try and learn what it means not only to their partners, but to themselves as well, and turned it into a positive thing in their combined lives.

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My husband is very bi, loves m/m, and it really turns me on. We have been married for 36 years and had many wonderful MMF 3somes & even a few friendships with gay men where I played the voyeur. I enjoyed every minute of what we have done.

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It's such a relief to read this.

its so good to hear such good replys, i told my gf 2 weeks ago and it turned her on. we will see how it goes from here
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I am so absolutely turned on and attracted to bisexual and gay men, and I have been since my late teens. I have found it hard to meet bisexual men anywhere but on the internet. I have had sex with a few men I have met in gay bars, who were in transition to being gay, and i have met a few bi men in those bars, but it is very uncomfortable to want to hit on so many men in those places and yet, know that they probably won't be interested or may be completely offended (yikes!).
It can be tough for a girlfag to find the right partner!
Here's to those of us who are still out there looking for those elusive bisexual males! There is a great yahoo group for women who love bi men called Girlfags. Anyone interested is welcome.
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I checked out the group; that's a bit different from me. Can't quite explain it. I don't have any interest at all in cross-dressers or feminine men. I like my men very masculine and dominant and muscular and not swishy at all. I wouldn't mind using a strap-on on a man, but I would much rather have the man be getting the real thing while he also had sex with me. Also I need a rather alpha male man because the men I do have sex with tend to get weirdly attracted to me. But thank you for letting me know about the group! It's helping me to figure out what I want to figure out what I don't want.

i think two men having sex is hot :tong:
but apart from the sex issue, the bisexual men i have met here are amoung the most decent blokes ive ever come across, :bigrin:

Well...I have been told by several women that they would love to watch two men make it in the flesh (not a porno movie) but it is not something I have ever discussed with a lover. I have always made a point of telling my partners that I was bi but that I only played the field when I was single and never brought up the possiblity of putting on a show for them. In fact the only threesomes and orgies I have attended was when I was single.

By the way...we bisexuals tend to make the best lovers. We are usually very open-minded about things and have a much larger sexual palate to work with than your average straight or gay and we know all about the pleasurable differences between being passive or not in bed and how it translates into how you are as a person.

I think that to some people the thought of two men together isnt exceptable because there is actual penatration as with two women there is not unless you use a toy. I dont see the difference. I think that two men together is a beautiful thing. I enjoy watching gay and bisexual porn and Im hoping to experience the real thing some day. Id love to suck on a hard cock while hes getting it good from behind. This is such a big turn on to me...... :bibounce:

As a bisexual woman I have no probs with mm sex. Almost any kind of sex turns me on though :tong:
I have a good friend who is bisexual, and though she and her hubby have enjoyed many mff encounters, she finds the thought of 2 men together repulsive. I asked her why-from her answer, I'd swear she was a lesbian feminist. She told me men are gross. Well duh! (no offense, guys) I don't get it. I'd just as soon have a bi guy for myself...he'd understand my desire for women a little better. Unfortunately, my dude's str8 as an arrow.

I'm a married bi woman and my mate is het. I would still love him if he were bi, though I'm very glad he isn't. I wouldn't want to be included in any of his relationships. I'm not even a little bit turned on by two men being together.

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Stay Amuzed!
Raven

I am very turned on by two men together. My husband is str8 but is not against role playing for me. Such as his licking and sucking a fake penis for my eye candy! I don't know if he would act on male love if the opportunity presented itself. We enjoy giving pleasure and watching each other being pleasured for the most part, so the possibilities are endless from my point of view. I think that male bodies are as beautiful as female bodies and any combination of the two is a turn on for me to watch. ;)

My experience (sadly) has been 95% of women I've dated, hung out with and just talked with were repulsed by just the thought of "picturing" 2 men making love. Women generally don't like sex as much as men and place a huge emotional connection with "intimacy" and want to be the center of attention and feel neglected/ alienated if not involved in the activities. And any "man on the street" survey will likely breakdown as 80% straight women abhor anything gay/lez/bi, 20% open to watching women together and 3% open to gay/bi men.
I'm waaaay glad 2 b in this group of openminded, kindred souls!

Let's face it. Society views men and women differently. 2 girls, Great eye candy! The guy can control the action. The other way around, very few women want to control the action. The man is supposed to run the show. They want a manly man who will pay the rent and Visa. If they picture their guy having a nice hard dick going in and out of his rear they equate it with feminity, and going down on a guy, well that is something you only do until you feel solid in the relationship and can start claiming a headache, Generally, they just do not understand the pleasure of MM contact. In fact, they generally view it as making them superior. Are there some that love MM action, Yes! But they are few and far between.

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Sorry Ray..but I must take exception to this just a bit. Straight women may not find male to male sex a turn on...but in many cases, it goes deeper than the fact that they are straight. It has to do with what they were raised to believe...what society has dictated as the norm.

As a "straight" woman married to a bisexual man, I very often consented to viewing same sex porn with my husband because I believed that it was the right thing for me to do for him. I "watched", but very often I did so with my eyes averted from the screen and my affect rather flat and non-responsive. Why??? At the time I just thought it was because i found it far too different for me to understand....but as I have grown a bit more in my understanding of myself, I realized it was because I didn't WANT to find it a turn on. I was afraid to watch because I didn't WANT to be aroused by it. I had been raised to believe that "nice" girls didn't get aroused by such things..."nice" girls grew up to be wives and mothers (and successful career women...don't think that I am THAT old fashioned!!) and to acknowledge their sexuality was to acknowledge a character flaw.

Lucky for me (and for my husband) I have had a change of heart. I can now acknowledge myself as a sexual being, a woman who may label herself as straight, but a woman who is now open to other possibilities as her kids grow more independant and as her focus shifts more inward. I no longer watch same sex porn with my fingers over my eyes...as a matter of fact, I often sit straight up in the bed and watch with great interest! I am no longer fenced in by those "societal norms". I am free to appreciate myself and my husband as well as us as a couple...two people who love sex and find that our imaginations can lead us to greater heights! I may not be speaking for the majority of straight women married to bi men, but I do want to let it be known that it is possible to have the best of both worlds...but that it takes good communication, active imaginations, and loving hearts to achieve this result. I am lucky that i married a man who was patient enough to allow me to arrive at that point at my own pace...one who didn't push or complain...and now one who is very happy and quite satisfied on all counts. Who knows what tomorrow may bring? All that I know is that I am no longer afraid to be me!

Hugs,
Kate

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Thank you Kate!!
This exactly what goes on much of the time. The same type of thing happened to me initially. My X wanted me to watch and look at male porn and I refused because it was "disgusting". but I peeked past the wall that I put up and suddenly I found myself wanting those beautiful men. What a surprise. I really loved oral, anal and everything. How short-sighted I had been. Thank you for your openness and willingness to open up.

Brian

I spend most of my time in the "het world" and I just don't get the attraction of FF sex. Personally I'm just not turned on by two women having sex. If there's no guy in there then I just don't get it. I think most people think queer men are weak, no matter how butch or hot they look. One of them or both is a sissy. With two women, it doesn't matter. They can do what they want. I find that very demeaning.
The few men I have been with were gay or closeted so I don't know what they were. I think bi men are the hottest!

some women may be afraid to say they are turned on by that. I for one will admit I am turned on by 2 guys.

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Originally Posted by Just_Wondering

You know my answer........two men together....bringing plesure to each other.........nothing to say except WHAT A TURN ON! MMM MMM MMM
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love ur answer if yiu need another bi male in philly to join ya's let me know.
on yahoo with same username
dinojr692000

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love ur answer if yiu need another bi male in philly to join ya's let me know.

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Y'know, dino, you might have better luck if you put a personal ad in your profile instead of just responding to folks on the threads ;)

While most of the posts here are from Bi-women and very few straight women, I think it all boils down to “JEALOUSY” in relationships. While many Bi-women are open minded enough to accept Bi-men, there is less tendency for them to become jealous over their man exploring sexuality with other men. Straight women on the other hand, feel they should be the center of their partner’s attention at all times and will become jealous of the thought of their man with another woman. If she finds out that her man is Bi or even slightly curious, now she has to worry about her man cheating on her or leaving her for not only another woman, but now it could be for another man. The JEALOUSY grows and eventually those relationships falter anyway.

So that being said, my guess is that it works better for couples that have been open and honest with each other at the beginning of a relationship about sexual desires. I know it is harder for a person in the relationship to express their desires to a long-term partner for fear of the relationship ending abruptly (as many have). I see many profiles on the web of men whose wives don’t know or aren’t interested. Many of those men are in long-term relationships that have been closet BI’s or like me, have recently discovered the concept, have a harder time revealing it to the woman in their lives because they (being straight) don’t understand bisexuality. Being open and honest in the beginning gives the other person the option to pursue or run with out ruining a long-term relationship. It also gives the person an opportunity (should they decide to pursue) to understand and learn about bisexuality (as many straight women w/outed partners seem to be doing at this site).

Years ago homosexuality was the taboo in society because it wasn’t understood. This day in age it’s being forced down everyone’s throat in the media and becoming more acceptable though still frowned upon by many. Now the bisexual community is slowly coming out and seems to be frowned upon by both straight and gay communities. Things change with time and it won’t be long before bisexuality becomes more acceptable to society and homosexuality will be a thing of the past. I think the new term for both Bisexual and Homosexual should be something like “Sexually Free” and “Sexuality Freedom” as the new catch phrase.

:soapbox: Now I will get on a rocky subject…politics and the media. So if you are easily offended, you should stop reading this post. But if you want your eyes opened a little more keep reading.

As some other posters have stated, most people (or as I like to call them, “Sheeple”), have all been herded up into groups and made to conform to societies way of thinking by the media, religious beliefs, and good old fashion upbringing (family moral beliefs, for those who aren’t southern).

:offtopic: Here in the great US of A, our forefathers penned some documents we call the constitution. It states that we have the right to “Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness” and also gives us “Freedom of Choice”. This day and age these rights seem to have been over looked and forgotten about. Most people make their choice based on what others might think or say about ME if I don’t dress, look, drive, live, etc. the way society says I should. The media and our precious government feel they should “protect you from yourself”. They want to tell you how to live your life, what you should or shouldn’t do, what you can or can’t do on your own land, how you drive your car on so called “Public Roads” and how to spend your money. All in direct conflict with that very first law written in the Constitution.

How can you have Liberty if everyone is telling you how to live and is in your personal business all of the time? How can you have Pursuit of Happiness if you aren’t fulfilling your own hopes and dreams or making the choices you feel are right in your own heart? Bottom line… we have the right to do what ever the hell we want to do as long as it doesn’t cause physical injury to another person or other person’s property. Now we are in the era of “The Offended”. If you watch the news and those new, reality TV shows “Court TV”, you will often see someone that has been dragged into court for offending someone else. Being offended is the way you chose to react to someone else’s choice or action and DOES NOT constitute “physical injury”. So if society don’t like the things I do or the way I live, it’s their problem not mine and they should mind their own busyness. Be offended and go on with your life rather than be so damn offensive towards me, infringing on my rights.

:disgust: And to finish this off, I noticed several posts from so called Bi Women. You say you are married but you don’t allow your husbands to have a bisexual relationship or are turned off with the idea or site of 2 men together. Well, I think you are ether extremely selfish or you are just a hypocrite. If you are a practicing bisexual woman and don’t approve of your man participating with another man, then you are a selfish hypocrite. Women have realized, if a man can eat pussy and enjoys it, why can’t they? I ask if a woman can suck a dick and its not a problem, why can’t a man suck one also? If a man can fuck a woman in the ass, why not another man? Its just another ass or mouth with a dick in it. What difference does it make whether they are male or female orifices? It’s all about a man or woman giving and receiving sexual pleasure with another person, be they male or female. Not about being selfish and always the center of attention.

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Originally Posted by Curious2knowmore

And to finish this off, I noticed several posts from so called Bi Women. You say you are married but you don’t allow your husbands to have a bisexual relationship or are turned off with the idea or site of 2 men together. Well, I think you are ether extremely selfish or you are just a hypocrite. If you are a practicing bisexual woman and don’t approve of your man participating with another man, then you are a selfish hypocrite.

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WTF, Curious?

If someone wants to be in a monogamous relationship, and their partner does too, what's so bad about it? If someone doesn't happen to be turned on by two guys together, so what? People don't choose their turn-ons. If you don't want to date a woman like that, don't, but why come on here and flame?

... and since when do you become a "so called Bi Woman" for wanting a monogamous relationships? Last I hear, being bi was about being interested in both genders, not about whether or not you had an open arrangement.