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*chuckles* Oh hi, LDD. :) I am a bisexual gentleman. Or at least, I try being a gentleman. *grins and chuckles, wanders back to hewing the log at the camp*Quote:
Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
*hollering back over his shoulder* Oh yeah, they tell me I'm half loony as well. Do mind that, shall you? *snickers as he now bums a cigarette on top of his rub of snuff, goes back to his hewing*
Actually, if I were half intelligent and could read amendment number ten of the Constitution for America, note I use the for not of here, then I would see we are granted the right to have "closed loop" marriage or relationship. But I apparently am not nearly quite that intelligent, nor am I capable of reading. Oh wait, what am I doing here replying to you then? Oh, well ... erm ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tenni
Oh yes, also merely because something is illegal does not imply or express that is unlawful. And I think a lot more folks ought to start recognizing we in America were firstly founded upon Common Law, and not Law of Admiralty, which is used only as laws to govern commerce.
Me bedding a man and woman freely, without compensation does not equate to commerce, save for the sense of capitulation. ;)
Ya..good to read Void!!! Closed Loop relationships are legal across the US…but not same sex couple marriages? Now, if only the fifteen countries (Argentina, Sweden, South Africa, Canada , Australia, Denmark, Iceland, Brazil, Netherlands, etc.) that have legal same sex couple marriages could catch up and recognize the legality of closed loop relationships(dare I write marriages?)
Although we are discussing international bisexuality issues, each country's bisexual advancement is to be cheered!
illegal but not necessarily unlawful? sounds like an opener to circular logic debate?
Did u know that infidelity involving the same sex, outside of a same sex marriage is not grounds for divorce in the UK?
e.g a man whose husband has had sex with another man cannot divorce on the grounds of infidelity and same with women.
We can argue legal theories all day but until those ideas are tested in a court of law they will remain theories. Of course I learned a long time ago that if you don't want to know the answer sometimes it's better not to ask the question.
Daf
Am I correct in thinking that in Britain you do not have marriage equality as far as gender is concerned? I did not see Britain listed as one of the fifteen countries with legal same sex marriage?
In Canada, the marital situation is not gendered base. A person in Canada may not have infidelity as grounds for divorce or need to use infidelity but if they did then both cross gender and same gender marriages would have the same rights. If in Britain cross gender marriages may use infidelity as grounds for divorce but not same gender then Britain does not have equality of legal marriages.
I'm not a lawyer and so I am not aware of the details. What I do know is that same sex couples may marry with all the same legal rights as cross gender couples. (apparently there were hundreds of fine loop holes discriminating against same sex couples) Same sex couples may divorce on the same grounds as cross gender couples in Canada. Recently, a case came to the courts about non Canadians same sex couples marrying in Canada not allowed to get a Canadian divorce as an old divorce law stated that you must reside in Canada for a year before filing for divorce. That law was quickly changed so that those who come from other countries and marry in Canada may also get a divorce in Canada. (the couple couldn't get a divorce in their state (US) because their state of residence did not acknowledge same sex marriages as equal.
I suspect that Canada is not ready for closed loop marriages because I don't think that they legally exist in Canada. It would be beneficial for bisexuals to learn under what circumstances existing laws may interfere with closed loop relationships. If two of the three we're in a comma and on life support, the legal issue as to if the third partner would or would not have the legal right to pull the plug if they both were brain dead. Rationally based on other legality about same sex marriage and cross gender marriage it should be the third person in the closed loop situation that would have the legal right.
Elian is correct that each countries constitution's Charter of Rights and Freedoms etc. will legally guide countries via Supreme Courts. In Canada once provincial Supreme Courts began to state that the Charter gave these rights, the pace picked up and was nearly across the country by the time the Supreme Court of Canada made their decision. It looks like Britain's constitution may not be set up for equality based on sex/gender? Has Britain pussy footed around the issue by civil unions or ?
Only pressure from bisexuals will bring the equality issue of closed loop relationships to the public and eventually Supreme Courts. If the majority of bisexuals are satisfied living in heteronormative relationships and suppressing their same gender needs nothing will change. Those that are new to acknowledging the same sex attraction will continue to be unaware if sites like this do not discuss these types of relationships.