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Lots (all?) of the west is nuts run by control freaks and the people with low IQs think they are free.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDream
Can't drink a beer here but they will send you off to get your brains blown out for the banker, gangsters and their wall streets.
I was watching a History Channel special on the rise of the Nazi party, one item of note was the indoctrination received by the youth. The boys did physical drills and learned to beat each other up with fists. The girls worked at farms and learned that it was their duty to produce offspring. As many as 900 16 year old girls returned from one of these camps pregnant..when one mother learned about it and tried to go to the camp in protest her own daughter told her to shut up and go home - the daughter was "doing her duty" and she would personally report her own mother to the Gestapo if the mother tried to interfere.
This of course got me curious about sexuality in those times because I had heard about state run brothels specifically used to create more children. Turns out that is a little more dramatic then what it actually was but there were often times former rest homes or confiscated Jewish owned houses that were turned into orphanages for unwed mothers or unwanted children.. Of course the state did not have a taboo about mothers having children out of wedlock because the more young people in the direct care of the state the better..members of the army witnessed christening of these children.
The "female sexuality" material I was able to find on the net talked about the demoralization and denigration of female concentration camp prisoners..not very pleasant in any respect.
The 'male sexuality" material I was able to find focused on the treatment of homosexuals, including an essay talking about the idea that a great number of Nazi's in power had homosexual tendencies, lots of homoerotic symbolism they used, etc. ..and that idea that supposedly there was an internal conflict between "butch" and "femme" homosexuals..
I had to deprogram myself a bit because it wasn't much of a stretch to see the author starting to paint a picture that equated Nazism equally with pederasty and homosexual tendencies.
He seemed to imply that the majority of Nazi's were homosexual, which could not have been true...and I *KNOW* that not all "homosexuals" are "evil" in the way he insinuates without really saying it..
The whole learning experience left me with the impression that Hitler was a very manipulative, evil man. I always knew he was evil but this kind of showed a few more details. Also all of the strange things people used to take for granted to justify their theories of supremacy, etc. I DO believe that the occult exists but I don't abuse that belief the way these people did..terrible - anyone who spoke out was tortured or murdered..period.
There are a lot of people that seem to be calling for us to go back to "simpler" days - I for one am glad that we are wiser than that now. I love to believe in the positive potential of people, but we must also never forget that the human spirit is capable of vicious things as well.
It saddens me to think that when people are grasping for answers to the question "Why?" their old ignorant prejudices appear under trauma. "It MUST be the homosexual.." <sigh>
There are people who are homosexual who just can't wait for Mr Sandusky to "horse around in the showers" (as he politely put it) while in prison.. I'm usually not vindictive but if you don't want to insult your character by calling it RAPE, if that is what really happened then maybe it's time to learn some truth.
All you have to do is look at the gop (gay old perverts) and see the evil. Many homosexuals are evil, mean, back stabbers. They love power over people and controlling them. Just look into "The Franklin Cover Up".
I take serious offense to that, as most of the homosexual gentlemen I know, are not evil, mean, backstabbers.....they are decent, caring, loving people that are gay and like every other sexuality there is the bad apples in the barrel.....Quote:
Originally Posted by love1234
its just a shame they have to share the world with people like you.....
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Originally Posted by love1234
Your opinion seems very tainted and your understanding of the human dynamics, appears flawed.
Police and law enforcement do not keep statistics on the sexual orientation or political ideology of offenders but as 80% of all child sexual assault cases involve an adult family member and some adult known to the child in a position of authority ( http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/ind...410&Itemid=336 ) it can be safely inferred that the perpetrators are heterosexual.
You might also check into a group called Log Cabin Republicans whom are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual ...and GOP.
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Oh love, it seems terribly unfair to lump a whole group of people into a category like that. If you believe as I do, that some people are born with a predisposition to be attracted to those of their own gender, that would be like saying "All women are mean spirited," Number one, it's not true, and number two it lumps a bunch of people together who potentially had no control over a characteristic they were born with. We who like same gender just have it a little easier because we can conceal ourselves better than someone who has the so called "wrong" genitals or skin color. Wrong of course meaning "not in the privileged majority".
I've always known I was a bit different than other boys but the real trigger that brought all of that out was the addition of environment and experience. If no one had screwed with my mind when I was younger I may have been a completely different person than who I am today.
The conservative party does protect something, but it's not homosexuality - it's wealth. I'm not even sure that all of the believers completely understand the link between what they call "fiscal responsibility" and preserving wealth but that is essentially what their polices have promoted over the years, at least for PORTIONS of our US society. Just like ANY political party they bend the framing of their words to suit their own agenda.
The definition of fiscal responsibility, to these people seems to be: "Tax hikes and debt are GOOD for stimulating the economy when we want to have a war we know damn well nobody but China can pay for (eight years later) ..now that we aren't in power anymore and we need something to get voted back in office; let's fight tooth and nail against debt and raising taxes because our opponent party wants to do it."
We don't need their motivation for so called "fiscal responsibility", as much as we need plain good common sense.
Poorly written tax code and fiscal law encouraged people with wealth to find "creative" ways of protecting and enhancing that wealth. (Such as earning massive commissions at a reduced tax rate and using the real estate market like an unregulated stock market). Poorly written social programs encouraged people who maybe couldn't REALLY afford that $750,000 house to go ahead and get into massive debt way over their heads.. The free market bank was more than happy to earn a commission on an "Interest Only" loan, "Look you can afford this $750,000 house, the payments are only $500/mo." Sooner or later the whole thing comes tumbling down..
Free trade agreements are good for "stimulating the economy" - I mean we might as well get it over with and let all of the free labor markets become unionized and have environmental regulation so that there's finally no where left to produce the "inexpensive" goods we all demand at the expense of the land and other people's health.
Let's not forget about the storm brewing over how (or how not) to pay for baby boomer pensions and health care.. Money that would have potentially been there if the corporations and government hadn't spent all of it up already thinking that "the day when we need that money" will be some day off in the distant future.
All I can say is, thanks guys - thanks a lot for managing the economy so well.
<shakes head .. mumbles something about forgiveness, tolerance and love>
As a previous reply says "Tricky Subject" and as the Penn State case and several other posters have emphatically alluded predatory sexual exploitation by an adult on a child is so wrong and evil in so many ways. So as far as that goes that behavior is totally unacceptable. As far as the AOC goes now that is a totally different issue and I don't think one age fits all. In my State the AOC is 16 for 18 and older and I think 13 if you are within 2 years of age of one another.
Now I'm originally from the rural south. My grandmother was married when she was 14 and my aunt born when she was 15. I've had several great aunts married when they were between 12 and 15. My great grandmother married my great grandfather when she was 12. He was 16. My mom was barely 18 when she married my dad and two of my aunts were 16 and another 15 when they got married. So this AOC at 18 is a very recent phenomonem and I think there ought to be a lot more flexibility there.
As far as I go, how young is too young within your peer group? Good question I was five or six when I started playing doctor like many of you with the neighborhood kids. Started off with you show me yours and I'll show you mine and progressed from there. We played doctor until the 5th grade and along the way we did lots of rubbing, kissing, touching, licking, and insertions. There were 3 guys and eight girls in the group and we took turns with one another. We did it because it was fun and felt real good. I personnally think that that was perfectly natural and acceptable behavior and I know my oldest daughter and her friends started when they were 5.
As far as sex for sex when I knew what it was started when we were 14. It was one of my best friends and we started having sex that summer and we still do today. Added a couple of other friends to the mix and my first sex with a girl happened when I was 15. I started having sex with a much older man that year too. He was the father of one of my girlfriends. I don't consider myself to be taken advantage of or exploited. I was willing, ready, and interested in learning more and he was a capable and excellent teacher. We had a wonderful relationship that I think extremely fondly upon still. I'd do it again and maybe start a bit younger.
I am not too sure about what age is ok for male to male sex but I was 12 years old when a older man taught me the ways of male sex and I love it. I remember him sucking me lots of times and we talked about me cuming and he showed me what he ment and the first time I watched him cum it turned me on so much I almost did cum watching. He let me play in his cum to show me it was ok to touch . I jerked off many times with no cum until one day he was sucking me and I cum and he swoled it and said it was good.
Then one day I was laying with my head on his belly and jerking him off when I just wanted to have his cock in my mouth and leaned over his cock and took it in my mouth and loved it. It did't take long for him to blow his load in my mouth and I swalowed it and loved the feel of it and taste of it and have swallowed every time a sucked a cock. So was it bad or good that I learned from a older man. I was ok with then and still an ok with it
My first time i was also 9 years old.. The boy was 13 years old. He took me to his tree house, and pulled my dick out.. I felt embarrased and mad, he pulled my pants off.. he said ill get my pants back when i finish with your dick.. he grabbed my dick and started giving me oral it felt good, he made me dry cum... When he was done he gave me my pants back. its funny we became close friends.
Who ever got her pregnant should sit in prison!Quote:
Originally Posted by æonpax
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Originally Posted by mollysaw
I would love this
I realize that age discrepancy is a contentious topic, but, that said, I was seduced at 17 by a man in his late 40s and, like Mollysaw writing in the post above, I enjoyed it. I continued to see that man, and in our times together he taught me a great deal. I got to explore his adult body, and he taught me many enjoyable techniques that still turn me on.
I think the Ancient Greeks had the right idea. An older man would take an adolescent boy under his wing to both mentor him and to be his lover. You can find some of these older-younger relationships depicted in their pottery, and they appear both innocent and erotic at the same time. It's a pity we don't enjoy the same system.
i don't know how young is too young , but i know that ever since i was a young boy , i thought about women. i had no idea what sex was or how to do it , but i know there was something about women that i wanted, if someone were to touch me , i think that would have put me in heaven. just sayin .
Mine was when I was a young teen, and actually was with three brothers of different ages. The first in was my age, we were in the woods and he showed me his which was hard. I immediately got hard and pulled mine out. He got down and started sucking me. It felt so good! We switched and I started sucking him. From that point on, I liked it. I ended up doing that with his younger brother as well, and got so horny He laid flat and let me rub and hump his ass. It felt right to me. I liked girls as well, but felt there was nothing wrong with sucking and humping another boy. He let me suck him a bunch of times, and I?ve loved cock ever since. One time his older brother and I were looking at some playboys, and he asked if I liked it and if I was getting excited. I immediately said yes and pulled mine out. He got undressed fast, and so did I. This time it was in a bed and we sucked each other off and humped each other for a long time. His cock was twice the size of mine, and to me it was amazing to touch and suck on. From then on, whenever I was with other boys, I kind of led things up to showing them my cock, and it was always repeated back. So crazy that when you were younger it never felt like it was wrong or anything. It felt really awesome and I kept on. Now I?m older and can?t find guys who are open enough to just admit they like getting sucked off by a guy, and sucking off a a guys cock. I never labeled myself anything other than plain old sexual, as if it feels good, and you aren?t forcing yourself on someone or hurting someone, and it?s consensual, then do it. I would not go underage for sure, and would only be doing things consensually. Sex with anyone should never be traumatizing or forced, or coerced. Men, women, young guys or girls old enough and legal of course, I?ll enjoy what I can.