Damn...I missed it. Do it again?:bigrin:
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LMFAO they are still out! Not going back in till everyone is nice again :-P
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I referred to social democracies and not socialism. Canada and Britain are not socialist countries but social democracies and even then Canada doesn't fit it that well. Our government parties shift just as the US government shifts depending upon what party is in power. Some of our political parties are strong proponents of less government and capitalism while others are a mix. Social democracies supports the idea of a democratic welfare state which incorporates elements of both socialism and capitalism. "The fundamental difference between social democratic thought and other forms of socialism, such as orthodox Marxism, is a belief in the primacy of political action as opposed to the primacy of economic action or economic determinism". There are aspects of socialism but not pure socialism. I think that darkeyes is referring to pure socialism and it seems to be her perspective that there is no country that is a socialist country. (despite your statement about living in socialist countries..and they were?)
Canada has some controls over enterprise but is basically a free market system. We do have restrictions on certain industries and natural resources to insure that they are not completely foreign owned. We do have universal healthcare and but it does not cover all health care issues like a socialist country would.
Now, which presidency in the video showed the most inclination to Fascism?:bigrin:
You generalize and place fascism and socialism together and as I wrote, they are no where near the same. Generally, a lot of people of your political leanings tend not to distinguish between the difference. The term socialism when referring to universal healthcare is not socialism at all. There is a tendency to exaggerate.
btw...I pick Bush 2 presidency as exhibiting fascist traits. I recall someone writing about how his presidency exhibited a majority of thirteen or so fascist traits. Mind you that may have been an exaggerations like referring to universal forms of health care as socialized medicine but there certainly were fascist tendencies to that presidency.
Funnily enuff sum peeps believe in socialism.. don havta liv in socialist state 2 hav a pash for an ideology wich is intended 2 set peeps free, eliminate oppression, create true equality an get shot a poverty.. u may not like it but thats wot its 'bout.. am also a republican (in the propa sense a the word) an wud abolish the monarchy tomoz if me cud... me lives in a monarchy (as dus Tenni funnily enuff an even the same ole bat as Queen)..dusn mean cos we liv in 1 that we r pro monarchy or that bein anti monarchy we get stroppy bout it. Arguin an takin issue isn necessariy gettin stroppy an gettin our knickers in a twist.. it is arguin an takin issue.. if we got stroppy then u wud kno the difference..;)
No hun..point me is makin is that no 1 has tried socialism.. sum hav tried wot they called socialism, an even thats not always true cos even the ole Soviet Union reckoned that wot they practiced wos a necessary prerequisite on the road 2 socialism.. it wosn a course but ther ya r.. so yea..spose ya cud say men hav screwed it up..
.. an the democratic part? No hun that isn socialism but it is a ver small but important part cois wivout it ya go back 2 totalitarianism..an that Pasa is NOT wot socialism is 'bout....
.. an me still maintains ya havn a clue a wot socialism is an wot its 'bout..every word yas eva ritten 'bout it shows that 2 b the case.. western govts kno wot socialism is.. thats wy they r scared of it an misrepresent wot it is..as dus the media an as duo big biz interests an religious institutions world wide are not slow eitha in that regard.... if it has a prob it is that ruthless an unscrupulous bastards in many countries can use the word an the ideology 2 mobilise the poor, oppressed an dispossed inta a revolutionary militia or destructive civilian force .. that aint socialism eitha.. its ruthless an unscrupulous men usin an ideology for ther own ends.. bit like ruthless an unscrupulous men do for many ideologies..an o yea.. religions..
*puts boobies away*
Nevermind...the girls didn't work their magic this time :tongue: