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Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 25, 2010, 2:29 PM
Now I know this has nothing to do with sex or Bisexuality, but it just plain pisses me off..I'm sure it will many of you too. It doesnt matter that it was just a tiny Amphibian, it matters that it was a life thrown in the trash, and a child's pet...Guess what Airlines isnt getting My business anymore........

Tiny turtle causes taxiing plane to return to gate
Tiny caged turtle causes taxiing AirTran plane to return to gate, where sisters were forced to throw it away.



ATLANTA (AP) -- A caged, 2-inch turtle traveling with a 10-year-old girl caused a crew to turn around a taxiing plane, take the girl and her sisters off the flight and tell them they couldn't bring their pet along.

The sisters threw the animal and cage in the trash and returned to their seats crying Tuesday after AirTran Airways employees on the jetway said they couldn't care for the turtle while their father drove to retrieve it. Two days later, however, Carley Helm was reunited with Neytiri even though at first the family thought the pet was emptied with the trash.

Carley was heading home to Milwaukee after visiting her father in Atlanta with sisters Annie, 13, and Rebecca, 22, when the flap unfolded.

Rebecca said the three were led onto the jetway and told they'd have to get rid of the baby red ear slider -- named Neytiri after the princess in the movie "Avatar" -- if they wanted to reboard.

"I asked, 'What do you mean get rid of it?' and they said throw it away," she said. "I was very sad, and I felt bad for my littlest sister because it was her first pet and she was planning to take care of it herself."

While the sisters say they were told to put the animal in the trash, AirTran says they chose that themselves, despite an offer to fly later at no extra charge.

AirTran company policy bars animals other than cats, dogs and household birds in the cabin, said spokesman Christopher White. White cited a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that says the reptiles have been known to carry salmonella bacteria.

The sisters say they made it past security screeners and an AirTran gate agent before boarding. One flight attendant told them to stow the cage under their seat, they say.

But with the flight rolling toward its takeoff, an attendant told them the turtle wasn't allowed in the cabin.

Rebecca Helm called their father, and he began driving back to the airport. She asked an AirTran employee to make arrangements with her father to look after the pet until he could get there, but the employee refused.

"I basically had to make a really fast decision because the whole plane was being delayed," Rebecca Helm said. The bin wasn't very full and she thought the turtle could be found easily once her dad arrived, she said.

Rebecca twice declined the offer to take a later flight, White said.

"We don't have the personnel or the facilities to care for people's pets," White said.

Rebecca asked if throwing the pet away would allow for them to get back on the flight, White said. The gate agent did not tell the sisters what to do but said they could not get on the plane with the turtle, White said.

"At no time did any AirTran Airways crew member order or suggest that they put the turtle in the trash," he said.

Half an hour later, the sisters' father called, saying he wanted to come look through the trash, White said. The gate agent looked, couldn't find the turtle and assumed it had been emptied, he said.

The airline, a unit of AirTran Holdings Inc. discovered Wednesday that the ramp supervisor had rescued the turtle from the trash "out of his own compassion" and given it to another crew member, who took it home for her 5-year-old son, White said.

AirTran told that crew member the original owners wanted it back, and the airline arranged for the turtle to fly as cargo to Milwaukee on Thursday, White said.

The sisters' mother reported what happened to animal rights group PETA, which sent a letter to AirTran demanding an investigation and disciplinary action.

For their part, Rebecca Helm says her sisters "are very happy to have the turtle back."

DuckiesDarling
Jun 25, 2010, 7:34 PM
On first read I was pissed, then I read a bit more and while annoyed I can see the point. The sisters should have been told at earlier points by the airlines that they could not have their turtle on board. But there was information supplied by the airlines when tickets are booked that states check the rules and regulations at the airport as they frequently update.

Things like no bottles, no liquids.... those change depending on security concerns. But the no food, no pets that's a pretty standard rule to maintain integrity of natural fauna in some places.

So the sisters should have been told long before they got to the gate and definitely BEFORE they got on the plane. I wonder how visible the cage was as they traveled through the airport.

Sorry, Cat, I understand your outrage but from what you posted the airline offered them a later flight so the turtle could be picked up the father, the girls chose to put it in the trash thinking it would be easily found and it was, by the ramp supervisor who took it home as a pet for his son.

Think there were some bad decisions all along but the first one was not making sure the turtle would be allowed and just assuming they could take it. I'm as much of an animal lover as anyone, but if I was traveling with a pet I'd make damned sure it was allowed to travel and in what mode that travel would be, ie a pet carrier in the luggage area and not just assume that things would take care of themselves. Being a pet owner carries responsibility and traveling with one requires attention to details.

littlerayofsunshine
Jun 25, 2010, 8:53 PM
http://exoticpets.about.com/od/reptilesturtles/a/turtlesales.htm



The sale or distribution of turtles with a carapace length of less than 4 inches has been banned in the US since 1975 (Title 21 CFR 1240.62). The ban was brought into effect under the Public Health Services Act by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to address the problem of Salmonella infections in children. Prior to the ban there were an estimated 250,000 cases of Salmonellosis in children and infants that were associated with pet turtles in the US.


Just something I found. I am sure if selling them is illegal, that traveling with them would be to.