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MarieDelta
Mar 31, 2010, 9:53 AM
Article regarding morality and the brain.


Using a powerful magnetic field, scientists from MIT, Harvard University and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center are able to scramble the moral center of the brain, making it more difficult for people to separate innocent intentions from harmful outcomes. The research could have big implications for not only neuroscientists, but also for judges and juries.

"It's one thing to 'know' that we'll find morality in the brain," said Liane Young, a scientist at MIT and co-author of the article. "It's another to 'knock out' that brain area and change people's moral judgments."


For their experiment, the scientists had 20 subjects read several dozen different stories about people with good or bad intentions that resulted in a variety of outcomes.

One typical story was about a boyfriend who leads his girlfriend across a bridge. In some versions, the boyfriend harmlessly walked his girlfriend across the bridge with no ill effect. In other cases, the boyfriend intentionally led the girlfriend along so she would break her ankle. The subjects used a seven point scale — one being forbidden and seven completely permissible — to record whether they through the situation was morally acceptable or not.

While the subjects read the story, the scientists applied a magnetic field using a method known as transcranial magnetic stimulation. The magnetic fields created confusion in the neurons that make up the RTPJ, said Young, causing them to fire off electrical pulses chaotically.

The confusion in the brain made it harder for subjects to interpret the boyfriend's intent, said Young, and instead made the subjects focus solely on the situation's outcome. The effect was temporary and safe.



Magnetic fields made people judge outcomes more than intentions. Whether it's possible to do the opposite — making people focus more on intentions than outcomes — Young doesn't know.

the sacred night
Mar 31, 2010, 11:26 AM
Neato!

12voltman59
Mar 31, 2010, 2:35 PM
The righties are gonna have a field day with that---"more claptrap nonsense from SCIENTISTS!!!" I can hear 'em now from Rush, to Ann to Laura, to Michael Savage to Bill O'Lielly, et al!!

It is not such a surprise they found this though---some researchers found that by exposing the brain to electromagnetic fields---it can induce people to have "paranormal" experiences like make them think they see things such as ghosts and aliens.

**Peg**
Mar 31, 2010, 6:11 PM
so from that study, does this mean one's moral compass is out of whack? :bigrin:

void()
Mar 31, 2010, 6:59 PM
Void draws a picture.

"Tonight, Local sexual orientation camps using electro-magnetic waves forced to shut down. Several militant bisexual groups stormed their gates. Film at 11."

"Puritans revel mind control plot to enslave homosexuals. Electromagnetic wave forms used as a weapon of morality!"

Void steps back from the picture, recalls that non-lethal tactics are engaged in the U.S., and even lethal if needed. Void sighs.

We need to get First Battalion of the Infantry to stand down. They are on rotation in the U.S., mission: search and destroy insurgencies. This new version of war isn't just physical either, it's idealogical as well. So that means, yes you can be viewed as an enemy merely for your thoughts. And First Battalion was brought back with such an order under Bush. That order needs rescinded ASAP.

Billys_gurl
Mar 31, 2010, 8:18 PM
I like you Void. I was thinking some of the same things when I read that. And Peg, I love the signature that you have. It sounds like something myusband would tell me. He is always building my confidence in myself up because I dont have alot.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Mar 31, 2010, 9:55 PM
LMAo You tell em, Void! And just think..this study was our tax dollars at work....:rolleyes:
Cat

12voltman59
Mar 31, 2010, 10:03 PM
I have to say--as much as I do think that research into all kinds of areas is a good thing--it does kind of creep me out if it proves to be true that people's behavior can be affected by something like electromagnetic waves, energy or whatever they call it!!

The implications of that are kinda scary----but I guess there are probably those on here who would love to use that on me and turn me from my radical leftie self to something they find more agreeable!!!

void()
Mar 31, 2010, 11:51 PM
12volt, You do know that they studied using radio waves to make people defecate, correct? Everything living and moving creates harmonic vibrations, radio wave energy. That energy can be effected by lots of variables, not to mention the guy with the wave form transmitter.

"Oh look that horde of peaceful protesters suddenly needed to go shit in unison."

Talk about an easy way to force a cease and desist. I think every American ought to watch the video _The Last Castle_. Rubber bullets non-lethal? My butt! It really is disconcerting thinking about such. Guess that's what makes me a good asylum candidate. Oh that's correct, we no longer call them asylums but mental wellness and health centres. Body bags aren't, they are material remains shipping packages.

*sigh*

I better stop. Get too dark, wind up having nightmares / flashbacks. Really fun being sane in an insane world. :)

Cat, Ain't that just how it always goes? "They put the noose round, here is the new sound, taking ground, same as the old sound." No, I never listen to Rage Against The Machine, heckno not me!

darkeyes
Apr 1, 2010, 9:32 AM
'bout 5 years ago a magnet applied 2 share a flat wiv a non magnet... the girl non magnet in the flat accepted the magnet as a flatm8....drawn 2 the magnet like..well..zif she wos a magnet.. she pursued the magnet very ardently cos she had a bootie 2 die for.. the magnet's bf wasn't 2 chuffed at the girl non magnet an ther wos lotsa trubble tween them.. an tween the non magnet and the magnet's bf.. 'ventually the magnet an non magnet clamped 2 getha ova few lil drinkies.. an afta a few "lil" probs wen they wer prized apart, r still clamped togetha kinda more permanently.. the non magnet findin not that 'er morality had changed ver much.. but that 'er priorities had, an 'er morality wen it cums 2 naughty things had...:).. an so in 'er own way..the non magnet found 'ersel becummin magnetised:tong:

..wot a strange an joyous thing life is indeed... :tong:

**Peg**
Apr 1, 2010, 2:15 PM
... And Peg, I love the signature that you have. It sounds like something myusband would tell me. He is always building my confidence in myself up because I dont have alot.

well thank you Bg... :)

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Apr 1, 2010, 2:25 PM
[B]Cat, Ain't that just how it always goes? "They put the noose round, here is the new sound, taking ground, same as the old sound." No, I never listen to Rage Against The Machine, heckno not me!{B]

Hey, dont involve me in this! I stuck a magnet to each temple, and the scary thing was, they stuck! I tol' you there whudnt nuthin in there. lol:bigrin:
Cat

void()
Apr 1, 2010, 6:42 PM
Hehe. Yep. They want us all being machines.

Void wanders off to self install new programming.