US censorship gone mad,,,again

[goldenfinger]

Today, I was watching a DR. Phil show about the internet pros and cons. A young woman had posted a picture of herself breastfeeding her baby, on Facebook. After someone complained, Facebook removed the picture. Apparently you'r not allowed to show nipples at all, men included, on Facebook.My question is,"what the f***" is wrong with you Americans, 300.000 millions people in Europa have NO problems with nudity, but you "free" Americans" has.
I know that no one on this site has problems with nudity, so it's NOT aimed at you.
How long must the rest of the world suffer from US censorship

[Georgie_Girl]

Hey if it was up to me it wouldn't be an issue, boobies for all! :P Facebook's probably worried about kids seeing inappropriate pictures and them being sued, so they went nuts with their picture policies or whatever you'd call it.

[allbimyself]

While I agree that blocking that image is stupid, pointless and a thousand other adjectives, those words can be used to describe calling it "US censorship." In this case, the action was taken by Facebook, NOT the American government or people. Yes, I disagree with their actions but fully support their right to control what appears on their website. If you don't like it, don't use their site, and encourage others to do the same. You are NOT "suffering" because of their actions. Your rights are not infringed upon since Facebook is a PRIVATE enterprise and you do not have a right to use it. They can revoke your access at anytime for any reason they want to. Your taxes don't support it.

This is analogous to someone coming into your home, say at a party, and saying things you find offensive: racist, sexist, homophobic, whatever. You have every right to ask that person to leave. You aren't censoring him, he's free to go spout his drivel somewhere else. These people can post their pics somewhere else, it's that simple.

And, yes, those that disagree are free to try to change Facebook's policies, but throwing around the word "censorship" and maligning the entire people of a country is a pathetic way to make a point.

When holding European countries up as a shining example of freedom perhaps you aren't familiar with the fact that it is a crime in most of Europe to deny the Holocaust. When the State criminalizes opinions and political ideology, no matter how repugnant, THAT is censorship and is the real danger to freedom.

Crying "censorship" at Facebook cheapens the meaning of the word.

[tg Shannon]

I think I can help ya out with this un golden,

We are a country who believes in freedom, Give me your tired, your weak, your poor. we take in those who no one else wants, we are compassionate to the needs of our foriegn brothers and sisters, we want to make sure they have a place where they feel they are wanted, needed and loved, we welcome them with open arms, and even in some states allow their homeland laws to reign over our own, we tell them that if someone is wearing a cross around their neck and it offends you, we will make them remove it, If someone calls you a slang name we will make them pay through a law suit, if someone is breast feeding a child we will call it pornography and indecent, if your 4 year old child gives my 4 year old child a hug or a peck on the cheek we will banned them from school and recomend years of therapy for them and possibly take them away from you because you teach love and frendship, if you are bisexual, gay or lesbian you are an outcast and we have no room for you, dont get me wrong here, I love AMERICA, I wouldnt want to live anywhere else, but I wonder if our founding fathers ever considered that some day there would be lawyers that would (in the intrest of makeing a fast buck for themselves) find so many loop holes in the words they sat down in 1776.
Answer: I doubt it, because the words they sat down were simple and meant only and exactly what they said.

These lawyers along with modern times have shaped us into a "you hurt my feelings" society, so the pissers and the moaners get their way and the hard working folks that dont bother anyone have to pay.

my ex sister in law works for a company that makes batteries, (I wont mention the company name that has a copper top on it,) over 10 years ago I needed a job and she was in the personell dept. of this company that makes copper top colored batteries, at that time the plant manager was a black man who gave strict instructions to hire blacks only, my response to her was, tell him I came here from India, was raised by a black family, I was a man and now im a woman whos gay and I'm handicapped with a 12th grade education, if that doesnt get me his job nothing will. I AM NOT, slamming any of the types of people I just mentioned, I was trying to prove a point.

narrow minded, selfish, arogant, want to make a fast easy buck people are the reason that photo was removed

I guess thats not an answer to your over all question but dammit I had ta get it off my chest.

I have probably offended someone with my remarks, I will not say I'm sorry, not here, this is a site geared twords the most open minded people in the world and I love y'all for that reason alone.

we now return you to your regularly scheduled post

[goldenfinger]

I know that the picture was removed by Facebook, but they are still people at Facebook, but how do people become so screwed up that every time they look at a picture, they see something sexual in it. I just don't get it.

[FalconAngel]

If you think that American censorship is bad around the world, think of how bad it has been for us. At one time, there were censorship boards that made it their business to go around and make those idiotic, overzealous decisions on our behalf.

But don't blame us; blame right wing Christians. They are the biggest ones behind censorship in this country. The old censorship boards used to be exclusively made up of local dowdy church board members.

[janine09]

When I was 11, I entered a nude drawing of a naked woman in an art contest's "nude" category. Apparently, my drawing was so offensive that it warrented censorship. The judges (all old women) told me the nipples and pubic hair had to be covered up, or I couldn't enter it in their contest. I went ahead and re-drew my picture to their liking (I wish now I hadn't). After the contest ended, it had won no prizes even though it was obviously the best there (and I'm not saying that because I have no problem admiting it wasn't if it wasn't. Two of my other pictures won first prize, and another one won second even though none of them were as good as my female nude). It was an upseting experience to say the least for someone my age.

More recently, I uploaded some "offensive" art on myspace (not mine, but that of others). I was well aware of myspace's policy about nude's, plus I wasn't really going to add them for my own values (ie weird people on myspace who might get the wrong idea about me, etc). The pictures I upload were not nude, at least by American standards. Apparently they were too "violent" or "offensive". One of them was merely an add against smoking tobbacco! Sheesh, talk about censorship. So, now I'm uploading a plethora of "offensive" pictures just to piss them off, and celebrate free speech. If my account is canceled, than so be it. I'd rather be free than have an acount on myspace.

[Long Duck Dong]

facebook or fuckbook..... what do people want ? their rights or protection ??

facebook draws a line in the sand and sticks to it, and we bitch and moan about it... we call it censorship and say its unfair,..... then if somebody posts something we find offensive, we bitch and moan about it

is facebook wrong for pandering to the greater majority of PC and protecting themselves, or are they wrong because people want freedom of speech on facebook, but the right to say what others can not post or say

all I can say, is facebook is doing what people wanted, they tightened up the rules and cracked down... now facebook is getting slammed for what ??? tightening up and cracking down

I have said it before and I will say it again.... we can not have our rights and freedom of speech, but have PC standards and tell others they may not have the same rights....

[chook]

Fuck it all I say.......Let's all go to the pub and get blind rotten drunk :smilies15


Cheers Chook :bigrin:

[bigbadmax]

As a limey, we always get accused of being sexually oppressed, however breast feeding is actively encouraged by gp surgeries and midwives etc.

surely its not a question of right or wrong but the tree hugging pc crowd who have nothing else to say or do apart from thinking NIMBY.

ps. i love trees by the way...great for firewood and leaning against whilst having sex

bbm

[eddy10]

We should all have the freedom to do what we want, so long it does not hamper anyone else from doing their freedom thing.

Viva sex.

[Long Duck Dong]

As a limey, we always get accused of being sexually oppressed, however breast feeding is actively encouraged by gp surgeries and midwives etc.

surely its not a question of right or wrong but the tree hugging pc crowd who have nothing else to say or do apart from thinking NIMBY.

ps. i love trees by the way...great for firewood and leaning against whilst having sex

bbm

we are no different, we are pushing for LGBT rights and a end to discrimination.... so how long before church / religion websites / community groups are not allowed to post / quote / discuss aspects of the bible as it refers ( subject to opinion ) against homosexual behievour as its * discrimination * against LGBT... yet we are infinging on the rights of the religious groups to freedom of speech.... remember discussion is not infringement of my rights, action against me is infringement of my rights...

keep our children safe is a common catch phrase amongst partners cos of the issues of pedophiles on the internet and the level of sexual content that young children can see...... now should we have adults have the right to view porn online, thus giving young people the same ability, or should all sexual content be banned, thus infringing on our rights as adults to view porn

we view the actions by facebook as infringement of freedom of speech... while we preach about how we should have freedom of speech..... facebook tightens the rules EQUALLY towards males and females, with no discrimination to either gender and the first thing that is cried... is discrimination against breast feeding mothers etc etc etc.....

we can lay the blame with who ever we want.... but we can not have freedom of speech without infringing on the rights of people to have freedom of expression and we want others to take the blame when they act to protect the very people that want to protect the people that use the site

[AdamKadmon43]

........ But don't blame us; blame right wing Christians. They are the biggest ones behind censorship in this country.

How very odd !!!! I suspect that had I made a statement like that, you would have been all over my case about how intolerant and hateful I am.

[diget]

Funny, its not us Americans that make these rules just the dumb ass's that control the internet who happen to live in America.:bigrin: