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hydropop

Oct 8, 2009, 3:45 PM

We all come here for some reason or another. Weather its to just chat , make new friends or get answers to some questions about what ever is on your mind.

When someone comes to this site, dosent it help to know a bit about a person? Shouldnt they have some sort of info ( no matter how little about them) ? How else do you get to know something about them?

Not sure if this thread has ever been posted. But im sure it will rub someone wrong.

csrakate

Oct 8, 2009, 3:51 PM

Actually, this subject has been debated before and while I think having some info in the profile is always helpful, it seems that many are still wary of giving information on a site such as this one. I know many people refuse to chat with those that have no profile, but I have met many a wonderful person who has no profile...but has shared a great deal in the forum and in chat. It takes time for some people to trust enough to divulge information about themselves...give them time...and the benefit of the doubt....you may pass up on a wonderful friend if you don't.

hydropop

Oct 8, 2009, 3:57 PM

I agree with ya Kate , it does take time , but something in a profile helps , dosent it ?

llllllllll

Oct 8, 2009, 4:04 PM

hard to make an argument with either one of you..i myself prefer to see something in a profile..whether it be age,location or whatever

just my :2cents:

clovermoon

Oct 8, 2009, 4:37 PM

...or spell

Long Duck Dong

Oct 8, 2009, 5:23 PM

there are those that seek info to know about a person, and those that do not read the info if it means, don't contact the person

the number of times I have read about members with profiles that clearly lay out their desires or non contact rules and get messaged by unsuitable or undesirable people....lol

and then we have the people that feel that everybody should have info about them in their profiles...... but why ???

not everybody is here to chat or be messaged, so for them there is really no need to give a reason for people to message them,
there are some that are not interested in polite convo, if they can just say ASL / lets fuck / attempt to cyber everybody in chat

and as kate says, we have the diamonds in the rough that have no profile, but given the chance, are very awesome and lovely people

so it begs the question, do people need to have profiles to say a little about themselves, or do we just wanna know things about everybody, even if we are never gonna talk to most of them

Hephaestion

Oct 8, 2009, 5:34 PM

Has anyone had their profile changed for them by ..... who?

Mine was
.

jonpmd

Oct 8, 2009, 5:48 PM

rissababynta

Oct 8, 2009, 6:23 PM

I personally don't care as long as they don't start bitching at others about not having adequate profiles.

Donkey_burger

Oct 8, 2009, 8:09 PM

It's sad that we live in a world where very little is private, and what is out there is judged. Yet, we also judge those who are very discreet.

If you notice that someone doesn't have much of a profile, just ask. They might be still in the closet, or they may just be new. I'd bet nine times out of ten there's a good reason that there's no profile.

DB :bipride:

roy m cox

Oct 9, 2009, 4:45 AM

read my profile if you want :bigrin:

i don't mind it a bit :bigrin:

roy m cox

Oct 9, 2009, 4:57 AM

...or spell

and correcting some one's spelling trolls like dong that and i for one don't like trolls :crosseye: if you don't like some ons spelling just keep on moving cuzz not every one can spell very good and or has problems with their hands and thay all have rights to voice their words too don't for get it

diget

Oct 9, 2009, 5:50 AM

how do you write a little info about yourself without creating an add. like for example i am just here to chat and be a nice friend but i dont need to make an add because im not looking to date, but how would i post any info about me that others can see WITHOUT making an add?:wiggle2:

Long Duck Dong

Oct 9, 2009, 6:12 AM

lol by not giving any indication that you are looking to date or hook up.... but you will find that people ignore that part and message you anyway wanting to hook up lol

Cherokee_Mountaincat

Oct 9, 2009, 1:28 PM

A little info is good, if you Are looking to meet up with others. If you arent, then simply Say so. I can understand all points of this thread..except one. Some folks simply need that descretion and that's perfectly alright. If you Want to put some on a profile so folks can know you better, then thats cool, if you dont, that's fine too. Its up to the individual. Its Your profile, you put on what you want to, or Dont want to. :}
And, in most polite circles its impolite to critisize a person's spelling abilities or errors.
Cat ;)

DiamondDog

Oct 20, 2009, 12:32 AM

People can do whatever they want with their profile/account including not give any info since it's their account and their choice.

On some sites I give very little info about myself and on some like here I write a lot about myself.

FalconAngel

Oct 20, 2009, 3:00 AM

I'm one of those guys with no profile and it is for a reason. It is important to my professional and personal life to remain discreet; if I were to post a profile, it might be seen by someone who knows me and puts two and two together. Any of you who have chatted with me know that I'm willing to give quite a lot of information privately; just not post it publicly.

If someone sees your info here, then they are here for the same reason that you are. I find it difficult to believe that any private employer would go through the effort to look through sites like this just to search for reasons to fire someone. That just makes no sense to me.

I understand that there are many of you that look down upon folks with no profile and it is unlikely that this note will influence you, but for those on the fence, please understand that we are not "out" and don't want our friends, family and business associates to recognize us.

Jon

It isn't that we look down on you, but we just will not be contacting you, even if you are in our area, because a blank or nearly blank profile with no pic or just a penis pic will not tell us enough about a person to make it worth it to us to look further.

That comes from experiences of dealing with the "blank profile" crowd. Sorry, but the minority (like you may be) are the exceptions to the rule and the majority have made it bad for the minority.

This site is a safe haven for many that are not "out" and if you cannot be out in a reasonably safe place, then where can you be out?

But just letting you know that there will be a lot of people, good potential friends, that will not waste time trying to get to know you because of a blank or near blank profile. That, too, is a lesson learned from experience on various sites like this.

Donkey_burger

Oct 20, 2009, 1:19 PM

[SNIP]
That comes from experiences of dealing with the "blank profile" crowd. Sorry, but the minority (like you may be) are the exceptions to the rule and the majority have made it bad for the minority.

[SNIP]

But just letting you know that there will be a lot of people, good potential friends, that will not waste time trying to get to know you because of a blank or near blank profile. That, too, is a lesson learned from experience on various sites like this.

It's your right to not look at profiles that are blank or near-blank. It's also the right of the person to not fill out their profile. :2cents:

DB :bipride:

Lenore

Oct 21, 2009, 9:26 PM

Donkey_burger

Oct 21, 2009, 9:45 PM

I have a profile, but it's not very extensive. I just don't know what to write. Every once in a while I look at it and add or subtract some piece of information, but i'm not very good at writing about myself without prompting. I figure if someone wants to know something specific they will just ask. lol

You know, I have that problem cus of several neurological differences I have. Maybe I can prompt you:

What hobbies do you have?
What anti-hobbies (things you HATE doing) do you have?
What kind of person are you?
What do you look like?
What people do you like?
What people don't you like?
How do you like to be talked to or treated?
What is your favorite animal, color, movie, song, music genre, etc.?

DB :bipride:

FalconAngel

Oct 21, 2009, 10:04 PM

It's your right to not look at profiles that are blank or near-blank. It's also the right of the person to not fill out their profile. :2cents:

DB :bipride:

Then why be here?

After all, if you are here, then it is to find others like yourself. Now wouldn't it be funny if two people with blank profiles, from this site or one just like it, choose to meet and discover that they work together.

Consider the fact of what we said; if they are here, they are here for the same reason you are.

The swingers crowd understands that concept pretty well. It applies to any non-mainstream activity or interest group.

Fear will keep you from doing more than taking the risk will endanger. Fear will kill your soul.

Long Duck Dong

Oct 21, 2009, 10:27 PM

Annika L

Oct 21, 2009, 10:36 PM

Then why be here?

After all, if you are here, then it is to find others like yourself. Now wouldn't it be funny if two people with blank profiles, from this site or one just like it, choose to meet and discover that they work together.

Consider the fact of what we said; if they are here, they are here for the same reason you are.

The swingers crowd understands that concept pretty well. It applies to any non-mainstream activity or interest group.

Fear will keep you from doing more than taking the risk will endanger. Fear will kill your soul.

This attitude really gets tiresome.

People are here for an array of reasons, Falcon. Some are here just to cyber in chat. Some are here to meet people they will become real life friends or lovers with (some longterm, some short term). Some are here to learn more about how bisexuals think. Some are here to learn more about how they themselves think and feel. Some are here because they are seeking a sense of bisexual community. Some are here because there are just plain interesting people here that they enjoy chatting or exchanging ideas with. Some probably join this site because they stumbled on it somehow, read an interesting post, and wanted to reply, but couldn't without an account. This does not even begin to enumerate the reasons why people are here.

Now someone whose main goal here is to meet people in real life *would* probably advantage themselves by including a full profile...but (need I say it again?) this is not everyone's goal.

When someone pm's me in chat and I see they have no profile, I'm more likely be a bit cool toward them until I understand them better. But it does not completely stand in my way...I have several friends in chat without profiles.

As for employers (and others), didn't someone write recently about Googling some topic or other, and a bisexual.com thread came up? An employer could easily stumble on this site for reasons having nothing to do with why *you* are here...could stumble on a post you wrote, in fact...or a thread you replied to. Is this likely? Is it likely that something bad will happen as a result? These are odds that are best left to each individual to assess.

Not everyone is you (in fact, few are), or even in your situation...so don't assume everyone is here for the reasons you are, and don't think they're wrong or deluded or fearful for not making the choices you make.

FalconAngel

Oct 22, 2009, 1:43 AM

there appears to be a assumption by a lot of members that people are here to meet up / hook up...... but in fact thats not the case.... many of the people here are not here to meet up / hook up at all

Well that is, as has been shown on a number of similar threads, to be a logical fallacy.

People join this site for many reasons, including to hook up. Most of the people here come here to find out more about their own sexuality (or their spouse or s/o's sexuality) from others who have been there, or to find like minded people to connect with for social, rather than sexual reasons.

What reason is there to have a site like this if not to get people to connect with others of like mind, whether it is for information on Bisexuality, social connection and/or sex?

For the ones that are concerned about being found out at work for being on this site, consider these two things;

1. Google yourself. Really. See what you find out.
I am all over the web; myspace, live.com, any number of Pagan and Wiccan sites, this site and other Bi sites. But when I googled myself I found everyone with my name, except me (3 MD's, 2 Lawyers, a few authors, a reporter, a scientist at NASA and a guy that runs a "Final Fantasy" group). Not one indication of my membership to sites other than my profile on Live.com, which I use for my chainmaille business, so has nothing on it that I wouldn't want to keep secret. I know that I am safe here on this site.

2. If someone finds you on this site, then they already suspect that you are BI/Gay and are searching for verification (which means that they are searching every single site like it - a HUGE amount of work that less than 1% of private sector employers will go through or pay to have done), or they are Bi/Gay themselves and they are here for the same reason you are.

My experience is that this is about the safest site to be out on, that I have ever known. And I have been on more than a few.

Long Duck Dong

Oct 22, 2009, 3:08 AM

ok, let me rephrase it.... myself, my partner and most of our friends in the site.... are here to help, share, advise, laugh, cry etc etc

we are not all bi...my partner is hetero....

none of us are interested in meeting up for sex, and socialising in real life, will not happen.....

we are of the consensus that we love the site...and its where we gather... its got fuck all to do with bisexuality and everything to do with the fact we have friends here....

I found the site by random surfing cos I was bored... and joined... originally I thought it was just another dating site... but it soon became a lot more... so I recommended it to friends, some of which are LGBT and some that are not....

it was not for the purpose of them learning about bisexuality, but for them to have the chance to meet and talk to some pretty dammed awesome people...

it may be a bisexuality site, but the community is so diverse that its just not about bisexuality any more....its about LGBT

Long Duck Dong

Oct 22, 2009, 5:22 AM

For the ones that are concerned about being found out at work for being on this site, consider these two things;

1. Google yourself. Really. See what you find out.
I am all over the web; myspace, live.com, any number of Pagan and Wiccan sites, this site and other Bi sites. But when I googled myself I found everyone with my name, except me (3 MD's, 2 Lawyers, a few authors, a reporter, a scientist at NASA and a guy that runs a "Final Fantasy" group). Not one indication of my membership to sites other than my profile on Live.com, which I use for my chainmaille business, so has nothing on it that I wouldn't want to keep secret. I know that I am safe here on this site.

2. If someone finds you on this site, then they already suspect that you are BI/Gay and are searching for verification (which means that they are searching every single site like it - a HUGE amount of work that less than 1% of private sector employers will go through or pay to have done), or they are Bi/Gay themselves and they are here for the same reason you are.

My experience is that this is about the safest site to be out on, that I have ever known. And I have been on more than a few.

ROFLMAO....you have no idea at all

computers that are shared or on a network such as a business network can be monitored using legal programs that antivirus and anti malware will not detect....they are part of a network protocol monitoring system and not on a computer but the main gateway
they track all sites visited, erasing the cookies and the history, will not remove the traces
now the same traces are found on ANY computer, they are actually hidden in the system and not erased by any normal means.....

so accessing the site from work is extremely unsafe....

using a cellphone / blackberry...its easy to spend $40 on a device that can track cellphone / black berry usage and even the sites visited.... so they are not safe.....

unsecured home computer on wireless ? childs play to ride the signal feedback.... again, they are not safe...

word of mouth, email account usage, style of writing on a post, even a remark to a family member.....all are unsafe.....

the term DADT applies greatly..... don't ask, don't tell.....

if you remember the psychic we had in here about 6 weeks ago...???

I know them... simply by the way they typed... but you run the email address, it takes you to a rural advertising newspaper...and you have a address of the person and the name.... then pass that name to a friend and he can tell you they are a person that has been accused of fraud in the past....

I IDed the person from one sentence they wrote.....

so if you think googling a name / email and having stuff all show up, means anything.... you are seriously mistaken.... cos all I have done is shown you some of the ways that info can be found.... and they are simple basic knowledge.....now imagine a co worker / family member / partner with a vendetta.....and you can see just how dangerous things can get....

lil hint.... do a search in your computer using a name from your address book.... somebody that you have not spoken to for a while

rissababynta

Oct 22, 2009, 10:44 AM

ROFLMAO....you have no idea at all

computers that are shared or on a network such as a business network can be monitored using legal programs that antivirus and anti malware will not detect....they are part of a network protocol monitoring system and not on a computer but the main gateway
they track all sites visited, erasing the cookies and the history, will not remove the traces
now the same traces are found on ANY computer, they are actually hidden in the system and not erased by any normal means.....

so accessing the site from work is extremely unsafe....

using a cellphone / blackberry...its easy to spend $40 on a device that can track cellphone / black berry usage and even the sites visited.... so they are not safe.....

unsecured home computer on wireless ? childs play to ride the signal feedback.... again, they are not safe...

word of mouth, email account usage, style of writing on a post, even a remark to a family member.....all are unsafe.....

the term DADT applies greatly..... don't ask, don't tell.....

if you remember the psychic we had in here about 6 weeks ago...???

I know them... simply by the way they typed... but you run the email address, it takes you to a rural advertising newspaper...and you have a address of the person and the name.... then pass that name to a friend and he can tell you they are a person that has been accused of fraud in the past....

I IDed the person from one sentence they wrote.....

so if you think googling a name / email and having stuff all show up, means anything.... you are seriously mistaken.... cos all I have done is shown you some of the ways that info can be found.... and they are simple basic knowledge.....now imagine a co worker / family member / partner with a vendetta.....and you can see just how dangerous things can get....

lil hint.... do a search in your computer using a name from your address book.... somebody that you have not spoken to for a while

I have to agree. Out of sheer curiousity, I've googled my email address and lots of stuff pop up. Also, I've found information and the whereabouts of lots of people I haven't seen or heard from in a long time by doing the same thing.

Also, there are many MANY employers who do the same thing and others in order search peoples myspaces and facebooks and such. There are a lot of people in the world that get fired from acting ridiculous on these networking sites, or at least ridiculous in the employers eyes. So yeah...if someone comes on here and doesn't want to put a whole lot of information about themselves because they want to be as private as possible while they are not out, I totally understand that. Who are we to tell people to do something that doesn't make them feel comfortable? I for one would leave a website in a heartbeat if I had people getting on me to do something I didn't want to do just because they felt I should.

FalconAngel

Oct 22, 2009, 10:42 PM

computers that are shared or on a network such as a business network can be monitored using legal programs that antivirus and anti malware will not detect....they are part of a network protocol monitoring system and not on a computer but the main gateway
they track all sites visited, erasing the cookies and the history, will not remove the traces
now the same traces are found on ANY computer, they are actually hidden in the system and not erased by any normal means.....

so accessing the site from work is extremely unsafe....

At what point did I ever suggest accessing the site from work? I never considered that because people have been fired, with prejudice for accessing these kinds of sites from their work computers. Almost every company that I have heard of has rules against it, to begin with, so, again you fell into that logical fallacy and a straw man argument.

You're mistake is in assuming that most people violate company rules. Few do, if they want to keep their jobs. Someone who will not fill out a profile, to hide from their company spies, will not access these sites from work, since it is a real risk to their work; more so than being Bi or Gay.

using a cellphone / blackberry...its easy to spend $40 on a device that can track cellphone / black berry usage and even the sites visited.... so they are not safe.....

unsecured home computer on wireless ? childs play to ride the signal feedback.... again, they are not safe...

As a former military communications specialist(just one of my 3 MOS's), you are not telling me anything new. Radio is the absolute LEAST secure communications method and that is all the wireless (radio, TV, etc.) communication methods.

And almost everyone who keeps up, even the slightest bit, with high tech knows about the cellphone freq scanners.

I always tell people to never get a wireless internet, router or networking system BECAUSE they are not secure. But then, a lot of people already know that, which may be one reason why most people and companies still use hard-wired internet and network systems.

Just because a system is high tech does not, automatically, mean that everyone will jump on them.

word of mouth, email account usage, style of writing on a post, even a remark to a family member.....all are unsafe.....

the term DADT applies greatly..... don't ask, don't tell.....

Another logical fallacy.
In case you hadn't noticed, this site is a Bi site, so everyone here has already asked and told, just by being here; either on themselves, or a friend that they are wanting to help understand.

Fact of the matter is that if one is going to be as paranoid as you appear to suggest they be, then everyone should be and remain in the closet; not just online, but in their real lives as well, never leaving the house to pursue that aspect of themselves. That would be the only way to maintain the secrecy of that part of their sexuality.

Now I cannot speak for other countries, but here in the US, what a person does in the privacy of their own home, from a legal and social acceptance standpoint is their own business as long as they are not breaking any laws in the process and broadcasting any kinks, such as sexuality or out of the ordinary fetishes, for all to hear.

As far as an e-mail address hunt, how much of your personal info is available on your e-mail? Particularly if you don't use your actual name for your e-mail? Not much, generally, if anything other than the e-mail address itself.

I have no e-mail addresses using my legal name or anything close to it. That is pretty acceptable security for almost everything.

if you remember the psychic we had in here about 6 weeks ago...???

I know them... simply by the way they typed... but you run the email address, it takes you to a rural advertising newspaper...and you have a address of the person and the name.... then pass that name to a friend and he can tell you they are a person that has been accused of fraud in the past....

But again, the method requires programs or sites that specialize in that sort of thing. Most companies will not care enough to go through the hoops that you have, just to track down whether or not an employee is Bi, Gay, into BDSM or whatever.

It's more effort than they would require on just a whim or rumor.

I IDed the person from one sentence they wrote.....

From a sentence, huh? Not from their e-mail or their IP address?
That's pretty damned slick and way beyond the capabilities of any computer program out there in the real world.

so if you think googling a name / email and having stuff all show up, means anything.... you are seriously mistaken.... cos all I have done is shown you some of the ways that info can be found....

Googling a person is the common method that most companies will use to see what they find on a person, unless they have a need to do a full background check on them, which is usually reserved for pre-employment screenings and security clearances (all of which are normally handled by professionals in the security field-outsourced).
The great majority of us do not need to worry about the latter and while anyone looking for work needs to consider about the former, anyone already working does not need to worry about the former, unless they are doing something at work that they shouldn't be doing.

The level of paranoia that you are defending will be natural for someone in a highly secure field, such as military, government contractor for classified projects (aviation/ordnance and such), or for other related fields where security is essential.

I really doubt that there are that many people on this site that fall into that particular category.

...and they are simple basic knowledge.....now imagine a co worker / family member / partner with a vendetta.....and you can see just how dangerous things can get....

That is a straw man argument.

But, for the sake of argument, let's look at your "Vendetta" or similar agenda scenario.
There is NOTHING that will stop someone like that from outing you, even if it means making things up about you, if they want to get you. It happens all the time to people that have some agenda against another. someone at work wants your job?

There are easier ways to make that happen than looking all over the net to find something to ruin your reputation. Most companies would rather sweep it under the rug, particularly if you happen to be a real "producer" for the company.
Profits trump sexuality every time in the corporate world.

If your position in the company is that low on the totem pole that you can be fired for your sexuality, then you live in the heart of the "Bible belt" or you have such an insignificant position that they can replace you with someone cheaper in a heartbeat; in which case, they won't, usually, care enough about you, for the largest part, to look for a reason to fire you unless you are one serious pain in the butt employee.

If someone wants to ruin your life, there will be nothing on the planet to stop them. Someone that dedicated to ruining your life will stop at nothing to get you, one way or the other, no matter how "off the grid" that you try to stay.

To think otherwise is unrealistic as well as being very foolish.

Donkey_burger

Oct 22, 2009, 11:10 PM

Then why be here?

[SNIP]

If you're not here to respect other people, fearfully or no, why be here?

DB :bipride:

Long Duck Dong

Oct 22, 2009, 11:27 PM

FalconAngel

Oct 23, 2009, 3:12 AM

falconangel.... how about you stop being so clinical in your desire to be right....

people just do not wish to have a profile, for what ever reason......

its not a crime, and its not infringing on your ability to meet people.....

all I have done is pointed out that its not hard to get info on people..... you long winded argument ( or disection of my post ) doesn't change the fact that people who do not have profiles, are NOT doing anything wrong, they are merely no disclosing details for whatever reason

many people has indicated that they have no reason, or see no reason to have a profile...and as long as they are not attracting drews attention and needing to be banned from the site....then I hardly see why its such a issue for a person to have no profile....

Since you insist on thinking that you are right when you are evidently wrong, I had to respond to all of your inaccuracy, paranoia and straw man arguments.

You knew that you were overreacting to the discussion and you needed to be slapped back to reality.

What may apply in your part of the planet, as you may experience there, does not necessarily apply anywhere else and probably does not apply here in the US. If you are going to make sweeping generalities about your experiences, then make sure that we all know that your experiences and opinions are based on your experiences in your country, not everywhere on the planet.

As far as blank profiles are concerned, I have said, and the experiences with trolls on this site shows that blank profiles, more often than not, are used by those that have something to hide, like the fact that they are up to something that is not kosher (scams, troll, etc.).

Even you should know that one from experience here.

Next time, come to class prepared.

Long Duck Dong

Oct 23, 2009, 3:40 AM

so jealous lovers, nosy family, loved ones etc, do not exist in the usa..??

thank you for clearing that up.... they are exclusive to new zealand

any person with a blank profile is hidding or a troll.... ok.... lets out everybody with a blank profile as a person that is hidding or a troll.... they may not have the right to privacy, they may not be protecting themselves on a shared computer, or they may not just wanna post any info....thats against the ruling of members that have issues with people they may never contact or converse with

roflmao... the fact remains that you tend to have the opinion that people should not have the right to blank profiles cos you do not agree with it.....

me, I do not care if they have profiles or not.... its their right....as long as they are not breaking the rules of the site or trolling.....

if drew didn't want people to have the right to privacy, then he could have made it a requirement that people have to have a profile in order to use the chatroom or post.....
but drew knows as well as I do... that anybody can create a fake profile....

now as for my paranoia and the paranoia of the people that have posted about the fact they have no profile and the people that have made good friends with people with no profiles.... and my inaccuracy, ( which you have not actually pointed out ) as I have not really addressed a number of aspects about computers and networks ( and I have certs in comps and website design plus network setups on laptops / comps.... btw, you forgot the w.e.p solution ) and strawman arguments..... ( i never realised the right to privacy is a strawman argument ) ....again roflmao

now I will let you have your pedestal back since I live in a country that have the exclusive rights to personal rights and problems that make up the largest majority as to why people may not have profiles....and let you puff out your chest......

and I will go back to * overreacting * about the fact that people have the right to a blank profile... and that is perfectly acceptable in this site....and defending a persons right to access the site, as long as they follow the rules.... and let you continue to lead the * must have a profile army * .... and get ignored by the people that choose not to have a profile, which is their right

Hephaestion

Oct 23, 2009, 3:48 AM

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(the white space above is there because no information has been given).
Respondants are invited to read (a) mind(s) as to whether the white space is pro or contra giving profile information.

Long Duck Dong

Oct 23, 2009, 4:00 AM

roflmao hep, I just snorted coffee out my nose from laughing....lol

Hephaestion

Oct 23, 2009, 4:12 AM

Ya got me LDD

Annika L

Oct 23, 2009, 10:14 AM

Since you insist on thinking that you are right when you are evidently wrong, I had to respond to all of your inaccuracy, paranoia and straw man arguments.

You knew that you were overreacting to the discussion and you needed to be slapped back to reality.

[Content deleted for brevity.]

As far as blank profiles are concerned, I have said, and the experiences with trolls on this site shows that blank profiles, more often than not, are used by those that have something to hide, like the fact that they are up to something that is not kosher (scams, troll, etc.).

Next time, come to class prepared.

Oh ye gods.

We're beyond irony with the above statements.

The language you use in your main paragraph conveys clearly the message that more than half of people here with blank profiles are trolls or otherwise meaning ill to the "more legitimate" members (the ones with profiles) of this site. "Even you" know this is utter bullshit.

And do you honestly believe that people with full profiles here (yea, even those with facial, full-body, and/or nude pictures) are not hiding things, or leaving out critical information of importance to members? No, "even you" cannot be that ignorant.

*smack*

rissababynta

Oct 23, 2009, 10:27 AM

FalconAngel

Oct 23, 2009, 2:41 PM

Oh ye gods.

We're beyond irony with the above statements.

The language you use in your main paragraph conveys clearly the message that more than half of people here with blank profiles are trolls or otherwise meaning ill to the "more legitimate" members (the ones with profiles) of this site. "Even you" know this is utter bullshit.

And do you honestly believe that people with full profiles here (yea, even those with facial, full-body, and/or nude pictures) are not hiding things, or leaving out critical information of importance to members? No, "even you" cannot be that ignorant.

*smack*

No, actually, but when it happens more often than not, as I have said prior to that, when you get bit enough times, you stop taking risks in those circumstances.

Anyone who has been here for more than a year or two, have seen it happen.
Sure, there is a troll or two (mostly serial trolls) that show up with a completely forged, complete profile, but the fakes and trolls, in the majority of cases, have a blank profile because it is more effort than they want to bother with.

With the trolls, well, we know about them and their motivations, but with the fakes, it is far more insidious. And the majority HAVE ruined it for the minority that just have a blank profile for fear reasons.

I also said that in a previous post on this thread. Maybe you skimmed over it or missed it entirely or didn't read that particular post, but I have said that in this thread.

The one idea that was proposed, to account for a blank profile, was the "protection while surfing sites like this at work" scenario.
That was also addressed. Don't do it at work, unless the company doesn't care what you do online at work. If you shouldn't be doing it, then don't do it. None of this issue is rocket science.

What my experience is, not just on this site, but on others as well, is that most people that leave something out, do not do so with intent, but just don't think to put something in.

I know that our profile has been redone a couple of times, just since joining this site and on others, I have had to tailor it to the specific site. And those, I have edited when I have looked at it as another viewer looking at profiles.

One site, in particular, I did a re-edit 3 times in one week, for various reasons beyond just clearing up potential misunderstandings that could be read into it.

Now, I know, not everyone is me, so I understand that there are folks that will write what they believe is important and leave out those things that they believe to be unimportant (which it may be to some and not others). That is not intentional deception, like some have done here and predominantly done on other sites (again, not just on this site, but it is a web-wide pandemic).

This site has always encouraged people to complete their profile, as best they can, to encourage communication, hooking up AND a sense of community (that last is as much supported by the members as the site design).

If one refuses to fill out a profile because they are in fear, then that fear will, most likely, continue to rule them and sites like this will do them less good that those that have profiles up.

If they have not filled out their profile out because they don't know what to put in it, then they can ask, as more than a few have done in the past, and that is not an issue, since it is a self-repairing issue.

If they have chosen to not fill out a profile because they don't want to, then they don't want to let anyone know about them (I am not talking about the "fear" cases in this instance). What purpose can that serve other than to specifically deceive, not as much as the "forged profile", but still is commonly used for purposes that are not draped in honesty.

The first two are the exception, not the rule, but the third one is the rule, that harms the exceptions.

When people have asked about what to put on their profile, I have always suggested that they fill it out as completely as possible with whatever they want people to know about them and why they are here.

A complete profile lets everyone they contact know what they are about and helps with getting to know them with fewer potential conflicts. It actually shortens the "hello, tell us you story" phase that we would go through if we meet in person.

Why would anyone want to oppose that?

FalconAngel

Oct 23, 2009, 2:50 PM

and correcting some one's spelling trolls like dong that and i for one don't like trolls :crosseye: if you don't like some ons spelling just keep on moving cuzz not every one can spell very good and or has problems with their hands and thay all have rights to voice their words too don't for get it

I made that mistake once when learning "Franspeak" :tong:. It wasn't pretty.

But there are some who's spelling is just so horrendous that, unless they are not native speakers/readers/writers of English, you just have to stop trying to translate so that your brain stops hurting.:eek: Those ones don't happen very often, but when they do, I just don't bother to read them.

I only correct spelling when someone asks my opinion on something that they've written.

But then I rely heavily on spellcheckers when I write, so no one is perfect.

rissababynta

Oct 23, 2009, 2:53 PM

I made that mistake once when learning "Franspeak" :tong:. It wasn't pretty.

But there are some who's spelling is just so horrendous that, unless they are not native speakers/readers/writers of English, you just have to stop trying to translate so that your brain stops hurting.:eek: Those ones don't happen very often, but when they do, I just don't bother to read them.

I only correct spelling when someone asks my opinion on something that they've written.

But then I rely heavily on spellcheckers when I write, so no one is perfect.

I remember the first time I saw Franspeak. Now, I feel like an expert compared to then.