Bi and Gay same to some?

[diget]

i have heard over and over again that bi's are gay. but i have also heard people say they aren't gay their bi.
my question is what do consider yourself bi or gay? or do you think they are the same? :bigrin::flag3::three:

[Bisexual Explorer]

This bi/gay topic keeps coming up. I wonder what's the source of confusion? Being gay, or lesbian, means that you are sexually attracted only to a person of the same gender whereas being bi means you are sexually attracted to people of both genders. Does that settle the matter?
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[Realist]

As I review my experiences, I've seen a different mindset between gays and bisexuals.

Both of my previous gay lovers were convinced that I was confused and couldn't make up my mind. Even though we were compatible, both intellectually and sexually, neither could ever get it in their minds that I genuinely loved to be with both sexes. When I vacillated between degrees of attraction for both genders, that really irritated them!

Although, I haven't known that many gay women, the ones I have known, seem to be more tolerant toward bisexuals. I'm not saying that one gender is more or less tolerant, just that's been my limited experience

The relationships I've had, with both bisexual ladies and men, has given me confidence to think most of them are much more flexible and accepting than straight, or gay people.

[nocturnal08]

As I review my experiences, I've seen a different mindset between gays and bisexuals.

Both of my previous gay lovers were convinced that I was confused and couldn't make up my mind. Even though we were compatible, both intellectually and sexually, neither could ever get it in their minds that I genuinely loved to be with both sexes. When I vacillated between degrees of attraction for both genders, that really irritated them!

Although, I haven't known that many gay women, the ones I have known, seem to be more tolerant toward bisexuals. I'm not saying that one gender is more or less tolerant, just that's been my limited experience

The relationships I've had, with both bisexual ladies and men, has given me confidence to think most of them are much more flexible and accepting than straight, or gay people. To be adequately blunt "I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE "VAGINA", AND ALL ITS USES AND FUN, I ALSO LIKE "THE SAUSAGE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN ITS USES ARE JUST ASA MUCH FUN, NO IM NOT CONFUSED "BI" WHAT MAKES ME HAPPY AT THE TIME OR THE SAME TIME IT JUST MEANS VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE AND WHAT IS LIFE IF IT ISNT "OPTIONS" JUST A REGULAR LIFE IF U ASK ME". so enough is enough listen to the gays that want to u to choose one way or another so u can be classified as just another one of them or you can be whatever you are to whoever you are with i guess id say a more diverse classification, if ive overstepped by any means i apologize but this question irks me cause its asks so much. just my 1cent

[roy m cox]

To be adequately blunt "I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE "VAGINA", AND ALL ITS USES AND FUN, I ALSO LIKE "THE SAUSAGE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN ITS USES ARE JUST ASA MUCH FUN, NO IM NOT CONFUSED "BI" WHAT MAKES ME HAPPY AT THE TIME OR THE SAME TIME IT JUST MEANS VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE AND WHAT IS LIFE IF IT ISNT "OPTIONS" JUST A REGULAR LIFE IF U ASK ME". so enough is enough listen to the gays that want to u to choose one way or another so u can be classified as just another one of them or you can be whatever you are to whoever you are with i guess id say a more diverse classification, if ive overstepped by any means i apologize but this question irks me cause its asks so much. just my 1cent

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[diget]

ya, i thought the same thing. being gay is being atrackted to only the same sex while being bi means you like both sex's.

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[Realist]

Nocturnal................You wrote: ".......if ive overstepped by any means i apologize but this question irks me cause its asks so much. just my 1cent"

You were stating your opinion, I don't see why anyone would have an issue with that. It's interesting to see each person's take on any subject. No need for an apology.

[mikey3000]

I just say I'm a part time gay. That confuses the heck out of them.:rolleyes:

[FalconAngel]

ya, i thought the same thing. being gay is being atrackted to only the same sex while being bi means you like both sex's.


Absolutely correct.

This question has been addressed from the hetero POV.

There is one thing that we need to take to heart, and that is that the answer does not change just because part of the Gay/Lesbian community refuses to recognize bisexuality in the same way that part of the hetero community also refuses to recognize bisexuality.

Both sides do that in an attempt to marginalize us. Basically doing the same thing to Bisexuals that the heteros used to do (and some still do) to Gays.

The key is to educate. It may not change the attitude of some, but they can't say that they were not told about it.:)

[M. Wolfe]

Surely to consider them one and the same is just to rope them together when they're very different.

A couple of my friends have a habit of referring to me as gay when they know better and it really gets on my nerves. It seems to trivialise my attraction to girls as non-existent or unimportant compared to my attraction to some guys.

... Assholes.


Most straight guys who've even spent a moment to consider what bisexuality is will think that it's just a desperate straight guy who's compromising or (a more common opinion of the gays) that a bi guy is just semi closeted.

[fredtyg]

A couple of my friends have a habit of referring to me as gay when they know better and it really gets on my nerves. It seems to trivialise my attraction to girls as non-existent or unimportant compared to my attraction to some guys.


I'm somewhat fortunate, I suppose, in that I have someone that knows about me refer to me the opposite way:

That mid- 30s nephew I've mentioned here before. I refer to myself as homo around him and even chide him when I see him coming over to my house (he lives across the street). I'll call to him "Don't come over here. Your family will think you're queer!". Not really sure how many of his family actually know about me. Could be none but he does.

But when I talk to him and refer to myself as homo, or queer, he always says "No, you're bisexual". Admittedly, I've told him about women I think are hot, but I think he wants to think I'm bi because he finds it more acceptable. I can't help but think if he really thought I was queer he might not have anything to do with me. His family is very religious rightish and anti- homo.

[JessyRee]

I agree with most ppl here..Being attracted to both sexes definatly qualifies as being bi.A lot of gay and straight ppl dont understand the concept of bisexuality and consider it either and experiment or the first step in coming out as gay..Of course we know different.Im 150 percent sure that bisexuality exists..People just deny it because they dont understand it.Im not a good example because Im like 95 percent lesbian 5 percent straight but lots of ppl are equally attracted to both sexes.

[NakedInSeattle]

Well, here it is for me. I love the feel and taste of pussy and I love the feel and taste of cock. If that ain't Bi, I don't know what is. Most lesbians I know almost puke at the sight or thought of a cock and most gay guys I know almost puke at the sight or thought of a pussy. Between those two extremes, there's plenty of room for us guys and gals who like to think of ourselves as Bi.

That's my $.02.

[Music Girl]

To put it simply, bisexuals are attracted to people of both genders. But, I don't think it's that simple really. I know for me, sexuality is fluid. I am attracted to men and women, but at times I'm more attracted to women, and at others I'm more attracted to men. In my experience, I am attracted to a person for their personality, for who they are, without regard to gender. I don't let gender limit who I am attracted to. That may not be the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me.

MG

[ErosUrge]

ahh the age old discussion......
I feel this is a topic we need to move on from but of course it's difficult when we are always being challenged about our sexuality...so, I understand completely.
It would be so nice if we all could accept each other regardless of our sexualities, but I know that this isn't always the case as I have had my share of run-ins challenging and opposing my bisexuality.
I must say that I find it fascinating that of all the sexualities, bisexuality seems to have more varying dynamics than the others...
What I mean is that there are different types of bisexuals.
For myself, my interests and attractions are of the sort that I am only interested in women for the more serious emotional and sexual relationships and I'm only interested in the sexual with males. In other words, if I am in public and let's say eating at a restaurant, my attraction will always be towards a woman....I always notice an attractive woman in public. If a male is out in public that is very attractive, I rarely notice and even if I do, I don't really think of them sexually. For me to be interested in a male sexually is something that is already stirred up in me prior to going out. And when I am stirred up to be with a male, my focus is then to connect with a male sexually. So generally speaking I would not notice a male publically or approach one in a public setting. For a connection to take place I would call one of my bi or gay friends to connect with sexually that I have sex with on ocassion. In fact our sexual relations are the basis of our friendship.
With women, my attraction is always on and is completely of another dynamic that includes much much more than just sexual attraction though of course that part is always prevalent....
After all this, I must conclude that bi and gay are absolutely not the same. But this is not something I or anyone else has to say for those of us who already realize this about our bisexuality....

[diget]

its funny really. i am bi though i dont like anal and refuse to have it though i don't mind giving head and love to make guys horny.
i guess you could think of me as a cock blowing live porn.:bigrin:

[roy m cox]

its funny really. i am bi though i dont like anal and refuse to have it though i don't mind giving head and love to make guys horny.
i guess you could think of me as a cock blowing live porn.:bigrin:

?_? you never had it or never tried anal before ?_? :confused:

[GuyF0001]

In the past few years I've found myself in a discussion (on separate occasions) with two gay friends about gay versus bisexual. FYI, one had no idea that I was bisexual and the other was well aware of it. It was interesting that both had the same opinion where they felt that bisexuals have a choice about their sexuality and gays do not. They both felt that they were gay by their physical makeup (genes, chemistry, whatever you want to call it) and not by a decision that they made on what they like sexually. They also both felt that most bisexuals are that way because of their own decisions on what they are turned on by. It was interesting that they both also felt that a small percent of bisexuals are actually gay and not willing to admit it or openly move in that direction.

I have tended to agree with these opinions, mainly based on my feelings that are similar to those that ErosUrge mentioned above. I am not physically drawn to males as a person but do love the sexual activities.

[TheKnaveOfHearts]

i have heard over and over again that bi's are gay. but i have also heard people say they aren't gay their bi.
my question is what do consider yourself bi or gay? or do you think they are the same? :bigrin::flag3::three:

There are the usual knuckleheads who insist that bisexuality (male bisexuality in particular) is just a transition stage on the way to exclusive homosexuality. What these bozos don't realize is that most of the bisexual guys who end up dating only men do so because they've become disillusioned with the way they've been treated as bisexual men. Most attractive, datable women want their men straight as an arrow (a bisexual man might as well be gay in the eyes of most women), so many bi men give up hope of integrating bisexuality into their romantic lives with women and just date men.

[diget]

?_? you never had it or never tried anal before ?_? :confused:

had it and shit blood for a week after wards. thought maybe that would just be a one time thing.........no. thought maybe it will just go away with time...........no, thought maybe i can correct it bi doing kegles...........no.
i don't mind anal it just that im sick of shitting blood, i have only had it 6 or 7 times but crapped blood each time. i think my ass is just weak or some thing.:bigrin:
i remember posting a thread about first time anal thought that thread will just help some poor bloke who hasn't tried anal learn a bit before he tries it so his first will be great. plus i was hoping that at least one person would worn me about blood in poo and tell me it was normal then give an explanation why it happens but i had no such luck. oh well

http://main.bisexual.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7938

yay:bigrin:

[diget]

Did you get fucked raw or bareback? Or use condoms?

all three i guess though you'll have to explain the difference between raw and bareback. a bit less blood with a condom but not much to speak of.

[Devin]

One thing for sure, there are statistically more people who have sexual experiences with both sexes than only the same sex, according to the Kinsey scale, that is.

Here is another side of the story. In my country, a gay writer in the field of gender studies wrote that there are plenty of homosexuals who seem to deny that they are attracted to the opposite sex at all. I believe this too. This happens because they have to defend their orientation when being met by prejudice - and the thought that homosexuality, in any case, is a choice.

I believe it would be the best if these labels disappeared altogether. They were made up by psychiatrists only some centuries ago (and not even so long ago), to label what they thought of as a sickness, anyway.

As for me, I have met both some beautiful women and handsome men on my way to sorrow and despair.

[Avokado]

"same hear" 100% :flag1: taco&hotdog love them both :flag1:

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Me to. ..