View Full Version : Ballot initiative to ban divorce
MelissaMaven
Sep 15, 2009, 8:05 PM
I thought this was funny, and that some folks might want to discuss it:
http://www.asylum.com/2009/09/14/prankster-introduces-ballot-initiative-to-ban-divorce/
Even though it's a joke, I can very much imagine that there are plenty of people who would vote to eliminate divorce!
12voltman59
Sep 15, 2009, 9:54 PM
The following is not a joke---I had heard about this recently on the "Capital Report" that airs each morning during the local news section on my public radio station during NPR's "Morning Edition" with this report coming from Ohio Public Radio's daily "State House Report"----we have a very conservative Republican state representative who is working on introducing legislation for Ohio---that if passed--would require pregnant women to get the signed permission of the man who got her pregnant before she could go ahead and have an abortion!
Now-I am not a big fan of abortion---I would urge anyone considering it to go over their options to avoid doing such a thing--but the bottom line is---I feel women should be the final arbitors of whether or not they carry a baby to full term or not---so I am for the free and unfettered right of a woman to have an abortion and I go one further--I would overturn the ban on spending public funds to pay for abortions--because the women who most need to get one---tend to be those who don't have health care coverage---but most health care plans don't cover the abortion procedure anyhow--and they sure cannot afford to get an abortion.
To me--my support of abortion goes to a bottom line devotion to the idea that in America---we extend rights to our citizens--not limit them--and if a woman does not have total control over her reproductive capacity--in effect--any other discussion of the rights of a woman are mute if she doesn't have the right to get an abortion or not---what you are really saying when you move to deny women the right to control over their ability to procreate----women are nothing more than chattle--breeding stock chattle!!
Denial of their right to free and unfettered abortions is paternalistic and mysgonistic as well----it says to women--"woman---you are too emotional and immature to know what you are doing with your body, so we are going to tell you--and if you get pregnant-you have to bear that baby to birth--or it doesn't matter if you might get sick and die because of your pregnancy--too bad!!"
I really think that the reason so many of the most rabid anti-abortionists are men--it has nothing to do with their love or concern for the fetus or baby--it has to do with men's property rights and about "keeping women in their place!"
http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-and-media/who-permits-abortion
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/12143/ohio-legislators-bill-requires-mans-permission-for-abortion
http://www.prochoice.org/blog/labels/state%20legislation.html
fredtyg
Sep 15, 2009, 10:12 PM
Yes, there have been, and still are, efforts to try and make it harder to divorce.
VOTE LIBERTARIAN, if you oppose those efforts.:bipride:
12voltman59
Sep 15, 2009, 10:36 PM
While this story was of someone putting on a spoof----this is not so far from reality--there have been moves in some states that allow people to enter into marriages that once done--are damn hard to undo.
It is something that some idiot in the comment section of that site said something like "marriage should be forever--that is God's law" or something of that nature-----man we have some dumb ass people--in America--we have secular law-not "God's Law"--and once again--such a statement shows a profound degree of ignorance about the form of marriage we have in modern times having any resemblence to what "marriage" was through the vast majority of time humans have existed as "civilized beings."
Marriage as we have known it is only about three or four hundred years at the longest---and in the history of our species--that is but a drop in the bucket--modern "marriage" sure as hell looks a lot different than it did back in the days of the bible.
_Joe_
Sep 16, 2009, 12:06 AM
Marriage is the leading cause to divorce......
Cherokee_Mountaincat
Sep 16, 2009, 9:42 PM
I'm with you on that one, Joe. If people cannot get along and are not truly happy or compatable any longer, then they Should be allowed to divorce.
My humble:2cents: on the matter
Cat
Doggiestyle
Sep 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I heard all that. If you outlaw divorce and make it stick. It will automatically cause a increase in the murder rate by approximately the amount of the present divorce rate. :rolleyes: I just guess that it will give a new meaning to the words "till death do us part". This shouldin't be hard to figgure out, HUH?
Thats my :2cents: Your friend, :doggie:
FalconAngel
Sep 16, 2009, 10:44 PM
Personally, I would love to see it happen in CA.
On the down side, murder would go up and people will end up leaving the state to get divorced.
What will be the most interesting would be to see how many people behind prop 8 will oppose this one.
The results of that poll will be very telling.