State Government Censorship

[AdamKadmon43]

I recently tried to access this site on the Wi-Fi network at a Colorado State Parks and Recreation campground. I was denied access because this site (amoung others) is blocked. Reason given: "It mentions homosexuality".

Apparently, the System Administrator(s) for their Wi-Fi network has gotten overly exhuberant about what can and cannot be viewed in state campgrounds on personal computers. I had thought about writing a letter to the Division of Parks and Recreation with copies to the Governor and my state legislators inquiring as to when homosexuality had become illegal in Colorado, and, if it hadn't become illegal, what right does the State of Colorado have to censor media that "mentions" it.

I immediately decided against it as it would just bring unwanted attention to this site and the people on it, and we got enough problems. I guess sometimes you just have to let the bastards win to protect yourself.

I am curious as to whether anyone else has encountered this sort of thing, and if so, what did you do about it?

[Doggiestyle]

:bigrin: OK now Adam, heres the master plan to make them Colorado bureaucrats feel faint with fear, when they hear about Bisexual.com.
All we, at this site gotta do is start talkin to your friend :tongue: Brother Jack and get her all fired up at the Colorado Parks & Recreation Dept. Then sick her on them, and after a while of trying to reason with her, they will not only give up, but run like their heads were on fire and their asses were catchin on fire!!!!!!! :yikes2:

Then, problem solved!!! My :2cents: you understand? Your friend, :doggie:

[AdamKadmon43]

*ROFLMFAO*

Never thought of THAT.... It might just work.

:) :) :)

[onewhocares]

:bigrin: OK now Adam, heres the master plan to make them Colorado bureaucrats feel faint with fear, when they hear about Bisexual.com.
All we, at this site gotta do is start talkin to your friend :tongue: Brother Jack and get her all fired up at the Colorado Parks & Recreation Dept. Then sick her on them, and after a while of trying to reason with her, they will not only give up, but run like their heads were on fire and their asses were catchin on fire!!!!!!! :yikes2:

Then, problem solved!!! My :2cents: you understand? Your friend, :doggie:

TOUCHE

[FalconAngel]

Just remember this; that anything not worth fighting for is not worth having.

[Canticle]

:bigrin: OK now Adam, heres the master plan to make them Colorado bureaucrats feel faint with fear, when they hear about Bisexual.com.
All we, at this site gotta do is start talkin to your friend :tongue: Brother Jack and get her all fired up at the Colorado Parks & Recreation Dept. Then sick her on them, and after a while of trying to reason with her, they will not only give up, but run like their heads were on fire and their asses were catchin on fire!!!!!!! :yikes2:

Then, problem solved!!! My :2cents: you understand? Your friend, :doggie:



I guess that was meant to be funny. No need to call me Adam's friend with an emoticon sticking it's tongue out. I was his friend....the only REAL friend he had and more than a friend. He knows that and if you think I was lying in my many posts, I was not. I would not lie to anyone, though I have been lied to. You seem to have a mindset, that Adam is the wronged one. Well, he is not. He is not at all.

What is there to reason with me about? I have made friendly conversation with people in the chat room and enjoy talking to some of the people there. I have been helped by many people on this site, who have understood my predicament. I am a perfectly reasonable person. I can have discussions about many subjects. I have tried to contribute in the forums. Unfortunately it seems that if one is an individual and does not agree with everything that some others will say, one is classed a troll.

One cannot win, because once pointed at and called a troll, like someone being pointed at and called a witch in Salem, the judge and jury is out and has made it's decision, before the trial begins and the judgement is ban her and erase all her posts....even if it makes the thread posted upon seem very odd when read.

To continue talking to the people one has quite got to like, one has to create a new name....and if one does this...one is still called a troll. People are banned and erased here for the slightest of reasons. I was spoken to by Drew in pm the other day and it was fairly obvious that he did not want to actually ''talk'' to me and hear me out.

I can assure you that anything I hold dear to my heart, whether it be a person or an ideal....even if it is another's ideal which I may not agree with, I would fight like a she cat, so that my loved ones were safe and those fighting for their rights received them and were allowed to live, worship, act how they wish. So, Yes....I'd take on something like the State......I have principles. Adam does not.

I do not vomit on anyone or anything....but I sure have been treated like dirt.....by the person you address your post to and a few others...people I don't even know. If you think that having someone lie to you for three and a half years, is a joke, and yet when they say they no longer want you, still keep turning up when THEY need someone...if you think that is funny.....well it ain't!!!! But heck...I'm not a wife, or a girlfriend.....I'm just the heterosexual English woman, Adam used as he has used many other people.

I guess the fact that I am heterosexual, means that I must be wrong and telling lies and that Adam is an angel...and as a bisexual...can do no wrong. Strange that no one in the chat room has any time for him...isn't it. Strange that people always say he ''has issues''...''is crazy'' and ''why hasn't he been banned''.

I am truly grateful that I accidentally discovered that Adam was visiting this site, way back in November 2007, because from his mainly fantasy posts, I discovered from the times and dates, that he had been lying to me for 18 months. If you don't think that hurts...it does...a lot!!!

He didn't even say he was definitely bisexual, for another year and has never given me any time to talk about his lies or his sexuality. I didn't stop loving him because he was bisexual....not one bit...but what Adam considers a discussion.....are a few lines of typed conversation...or a few web cam conversations, where he would refuse point blank to talk. Seems that my feelings did not count. He continued to lie...and like I have already said.....went silent...unless it suited him. Ogling ageing women stripping...or cybering was more important...along with staying continually drunk.

So don't you dare call me his problem, or that I need reasoning with.....no one has ever needed to reason with me.....I am an intelligent woman and quite able to discuss sexual matters in an adult manner....something Adam is incapable of doing. It's very difficult to have a serious conversation with a drunk, who finds everything funny!!!

I made some reasonable posts on a serious thread recently and because I posted a lot.....I am classed a troll again.....insulted by a member from this site, in the chat room and told I am a liar and my posts worthless. This same person, a few weeks ago, thought it a clever thing to do, to post a link to my Myspace account. Luckily that account is classed private.

I am spoken to in a most off hand and rather rude manner by the owner of this site....for just a few sentences and then banned. I would say that the owner of this site is a little too eager to jump into action when some people contact him and erase people willy nilly ....erasing people from the site...is like erasing them from the face of the planet. Also when contacted by email, he doesn't even have the courtesy to reply. I don't reckon he's THAT busy.

Adam hates me now, because unlike anyone else he has ever had in his life, I didn't just throw up my hands and say, ''enough''.....I never abandon a friend and I am intent on seeking the truth if i have been lied to and wronged. Adam will say that I have said some terrible things to him and Yes, I have......but eventually one gets to a point, where the distress, frustration, anger....make one more than angry......but of course...Adam always sees himself as the victim.

To those of you here, Adam is a line of type and a few pictures in his profile.....you don't know him.....you're not going to get hurt by him...you can turn off the computer and once out of site...out of mind

Adamkadmon43 aka Damien aka deus ex machina aka dorian gray aka Fibonacci aka GodDotCom aka Marcus Aurelius and any other names he may have, id the person who should be banned from this site. He has no respect for anyone here, or any site he visits and I have heard what he says about people.

Me...I came here because I discovered Adam was coming here and it did surprise me. I stayed to read the threads and talk to people...to understans and have stayed not becuase of Adam, but because i have found a few people to chat to. I thank those who have spent time in pm talking to me. They have helped me.

So don't laugh at me and mock me. I am not the problem...Adam is.

By the way...had it never occurred to Adam, that the reason he was unable to access sites which mentioned homosexuality, was because maybe the power that be, who run the camp sites, which have internet access, have to guard against any under age children accessing sites. it could be said that their parents should have parental control selected on the lap tops, but this is not the way things always go. Personally, I would have thought that going camping was a reason not to want access to the internet for a few days, but we are all different. I think it's a shame that Adam Has to spend all say for most of his days, drunk and trawling through pornography sites. There is a world out there and a life to be lived.

So now I will no doubt have done enough to get called a troll...once again....when all I am is a decent human being...who gets sick of seeing Adam lie and charm his way out of situations and make people think that he is the victim.

Calling Drew....now is your chance to ban me again.......Guess what....I like many of the people I have encountered and enjoy chatting to the. Your flame the subject...not the person.....is a flawed idea. People have the arguments about different subjects......part and parcel of the same thing....but then I live in the real world....not some cosy by the fire fantasy.....I say what I think.

So come and ban me....come and erase me and my posts......but remember this. Even erasing someone from a site like this is threatening the freedoms, we all strive to make real. Erasing someone from here is like erasing them from the planet. That's happened in real life situations too...and it was called a crime against humanity.

But somehow....I don't think you will understand or care......you don't care enough to have the courtesy to reply to an email.....and I have heard others tell that tale.

So do your job.....wipe me out. Like Kate says...''he owns the site. he can do what he likes''....well heck...you know something......that just isn't good enough...it really isn't........It's a kop out......A weak excuse........

Me...I am an honourable person.

[Canticle]

TOUCHE


CAPICHE?????

[Canticle]

Just remember this; that anything not worth fighting for is not worth having.



Falcon...you're so right.....if you don't fight for something...you can't complain that you have got it.

[csrakate]

Canticle,

Before you go quoting me again, I'd appreciate it if you would do so in the context in which it was said. You were disrupting the chat room, shouting how unfair it was that he came into the chat room, spoke briefly to you and then banned you. I stayed silent as long as I could...but hearing you constantly bitch and moan about being unjustly banned finally got to me. I do believe what I said was more like this:

"Drew owns this site and he can do what he likes. He has put certain rules in place and if you don't follow those rules, he has every right to ban you."

[Flounder1967]

I recently tried to access this site on the Wi-Fi network at a Colorado State Parks and Recreation campground. I was denied access because this site (amoung others) is blocked. Reason given: "It mentions homosexuality".

Apparently, the System Administrator(s) for their Wi-Fi network has gotten overly exhuberant about what can and cannot be viewed in state campgrounds on personal computers. I had thought about writing a letter to the Division of Parks and Recreation with copies to the Governor and my state legislators inquiring as to when homosexuality had become illegal in Colorado, and, if it hadn't become illegal, what right does the State of Colorado have to censor media that "mentions" it.

I immediately decided against it as it would just bring unwanted attention to this site and the people on it, and we got enough problems. I guess sometimes you just have to let the bastards win to protect yourself.

I am curious as to whether anyone else has encountered this sort of thing, and if so, what did you do about it?

Try contacting the local ACLU to see if they can help.

[Flounder1967]

I guess that was meant to be funny. No need to call me Adam's friend with an emoticon sticking it's tongue out. I was his friend....the only REAL friend he had and more than a friend. He knows that and if you think I was lying in my many posts, I was not. I would not lie to anyone, though I have been lied to. You seem to have a mindset, that Adam is the wronged one. Well, he is not. He is not at all.

What is there to reason with me about? I have made friendly conversation with people in the chat room and enjoy talking to some of the people there. I have been helped by many people on this site, who have understood my predicament. I am a perfectly reasonable person. I can have discussions about many subjects. I have tried to contribute in the forums. Unfortunately it seems that if one is an individual and does not agree with everything that some others will say, one is classed a troll.

One cannot win, because once pointed at and called a troll, like someone being pointed at and called a witch in Salem, the judge and jury is out and has made it's decision, before the trial begins and the judgement is ban her and erase all her posts....even if it makes the thread posted upon seem very odd when read.

To continue talking to the people one has quite got to like, one has to create a new name....and if one does this...one is still called a troll. People are banned and erased here for the slightest of reasons. I was spoken to by Drew in pm the other day and it was fairly obvious that he did not want to actually ''talk'' to me and hear me out.

I can assure you that anything I hold dear to my heart, whether it be a person or an ideal....even if it is another's ideal which I may not agree with, I would fight like a she cat, so that my loved ones were safe and those fighting for their rights received them and were allowed to live, worship, act how they wish. So, Yes....I'd take on something like the State......I have principles. Adam does not.

I do not vomit on anyone or anything....but I sure have been treated like dirt.....by the person you address your post to and a few others...people I don't even know. If you think that having someone lie to you for three and a half years, is a joke, and yet when they say they no longer want you, still keep turning up when THEY need someone...if you think that is funny.....well it ain't!!!! But heck...I'm not a wife, or a girlfriend.....I'm just the heterosexual English woman, Adam used as he has used many other people.

I guess the fact that I am heterosexual, means that I must be wrong and telling lies and that Adam is an angel...and as a bisexual...can do no wrong. Strange that no one in the chat room has any time for him...isn't it. Strange that people always say he ''has issues''...''is crazy'' and ''why hasn't he been banned''.

I am truly grateful that I accidentally discovered that Adam was visiting this site, way back in November 2007, because from his mainly fantasy posts, I discovered from the times and dates, that he had been lying to me for 18 months. If you don't think that hurts...it does...a lot!!!

He didn't even say he was definitely bisexual, for another year and has never given me any time to talk about his lies or his sexuality. I didn't stop loving him because he was bisexual....not one bit...but what Adam considers a discussion.....are a few lines of typed conversation...or a few web cam conversations, where he would refuse point blank to talk. Seems that my feelings did not count. He continued to lie...and like I have already said.....went silent...unless it suited him. Ogling ageing women stripping...or cybering was more important...along with staying continually drunk.

So don't you dare call me his problem, or that I need reasoning with.....no one has ever needed to reason with me.....I am an intelligent woman and quite able to discuss sexual matters in an adult manner....something Adam is incapable of doing. It's very difficult to have a serious conversation with a drunk, who finds everything funny!!!

I made some reasonable posts on a serious thread recently and because I posted a lot.....I am classed a troll again.....insulted by a member from this site, in the chat room and told I am a liar and my posts worthless. This same person, a few weeks ago, thought it a clever thing to do, to post a link to my Myspace account. Luckily that account is classed private.

I am spoken to in a most off hand and rather rude manner by the owner of this site....for just a few sentences and then banned. I would say that the owner of this site is a little too eager to jump into action when some people contact him and erase people willy nilly ....erasing people from the site...is like erasing them from the face of the planet. Also when contacted by email, he doesn't even have the courtesy to reply. I don't reckon he's THAT busy.

Adam hates me now, because unlike anyone else he has ever had in his life, I didn't just throw up my hands and say, ''enough''.....I never abandon a friend and I am intent on seeking the truth if i have been lied to and wronged. Adam will say that I have said some terrible things to him and Yes, I have......but eventually one gets to a point, where the distress, frustration, anger....make one more than angry......but of course...Adam always sees himself as the victim.

To those of you here, Adam is a line of type and a few pictures in his profile.....you don't know him.....you're not going to get hurt by him...you can turn off the computer and once out of site...out of mind

Adamkadmon43 aka Damien aka deus ex machina aka dorian gray aka Fibonacci aka GodDotCom aka Marcus Aurelius and any other names he may have, id the person who should be banned from this site. He has no respect for anyone here, or any site he visits and I have heard what he says about people.

Me...I came here because I discovered Adam was coming here and it did surprise me. I stayed to read the threads and talk to people...to understans and have stayed not becuase of Adam, but because i have found a few people to chat to. I thank those who have spent time in pm talking to me. They have helped me.

So don't laugh at me and mock me. I am not the problem...Adam is.

By the way...had it never occurred to Adam, that the reason he was unable to access sites which mentioned homosexuality, was because maybe the power that be, who run the camp sites, which have internet access, have to guard against any under age children accessing sites. it could be said that their parents should have parental control selected on the lap tops, but this is not the way things always go. Personally, I would have thought that going camping was a reason not to want access to the internet for a few days, but we are all different. I think it's a shame that Adam Has to spend all say for most of his days, drunk and trawling through pornography sites. There is a world out there and a life to be lived.

So now I will no doubt have done enough to get called a troll...once again....when all I am is a decent human being...who gets sick of seeing Adam lie and charm his way out of situations and make people think that he is the victim.

Calling Drew....now is your chance to ban me again.......Guess what....I like many of the people I have encountered and enjoy chatting to the. Your flame the subject...not the person.....is a flawed idea. People have the arguments about different subjects......part and parcel of the same thing....but then I live in the real world....not some cosy by the fire fantasy.....I say what I think.

So come and ban me....come and erase me and my posts......but remember this. Even erasing someone from a site like this is threatening the freedoms, we all strive to make real. Erasing someone from here is like erasing them from the planet. That's happened in real life situations too...and it was called a crime against humanity.

But somehow....I don't think you will understand or care......you don't care enough to have the courtesy to reply to an email.....and I have heard others tell that tale.

So do your job.....wipe me out. Like Kate says...''he owns the site. he can do what he likes''....well heck...you know something......that just isn't good enough...it really isn't........It's a kop out......A weak excuse........

Me...I am an honourable person.


Did I miss something...

I hate to say this, BUT I think this off tangent of the thread.

Thank you,
The Local Smartass

[Canticle]

Canticle,

Before you go quoting me again, I'd appreciate it if you would do so in the context in which it was said. You were disrupting the chat room, shouting how unfair it was that he came into the chat room, spoke briefly to you and then banned you. I stayed silent as long as I could...but hearing you constantly bitch and moan about being unjustly banned finally got to me. I do believe what I said was more like this:

"Drew owns this site and he can do what he likes. He has put certain rules in place and if you don't follow those rules, he has every right to ban you."

"Drew owns this site and he can do what he likes. He has put certain rules in place and if you don't follow those rules, he has every right to ban you."

This part of what you say, is correct......something you are always saying....except for me not following any rules....As ''feetfourwalking''...I have been extremely careful, in how I have worded my posts.

It really is a kop out for you to merely say, that Drew owns the site and can do what he likes. I take it that if there was a sudden uprising by all the members of the site, and none of them followed the rules, he would ban everyone.

If a site is opened for the benefit of people of a certain sexuality and also the benefit of the people who are their friends and loved ones, a totalitarian form of rule, is hardly the way to make people want to come back and join in a community.

Maybe that is why so many people have their names listed as members, in the members' list of names, but have not returned here for some years. Perhaps it explains why, give or take a few, the same people seem to post on the forum, or be found in the chat room. Remember, I did say give or take a few.

When has AdamKadmon43 followed the rules of the site? when he has been rude and insulting in forum posts, or come to the chat room, just to annoy people. I know he deliberately comes to the chat room, to do so. I have had him tell me, that he is off to make mischief and get himself into trouble. When he says that, he means the chat room here and the chat room of at least one other site. I won't tell you what he says about people who are visitors to this site, or others.....but is not polite.

''Before you go quoting me again, I'd appreciate it if you would do so in the context in which it was said. You were disrupting the chat room, shouting how unfair it was that he came into the chat room, spoke briefly to you and then banned you. I stayed silent as long as I could...but hearing you constantly bitch and moan about being unjustly banned finally got to me. I do believe what I said was more like this:''

This is not what happened when I returned to the room as Notredame. You did not stay silent for long and I do not believe anything ''got to you'', in the dramatic manner in which you express yourself.

I questioned why I should have been banned and mentioned what Drew had said to me. When I mentioned him asking me if I was the person who had emailed him, asking for pictures to be retutned, you posted, ''That was Azrael,'' and I think I answered that I knew that....as I had seen the post.

How was I disrupting the chat room, when I came back, confused as to why ''feetfourwalking'' had been banned. I had been careful with my posts and had not said anything wrong to anyone. I had not tried to hide who I was, when in the chat room and have chatted quite happily with people, ignoring Adam when he has decided to play the drama king.

Please explain to me how I was ''shouting''....when I was merely asking, because I was puzzled, why ''feetfourwalking'' was suddenly banned. If asking a few questions and being puzzled is shouting....then I guess you are right....it seems that things are seen very differently by you...things that happen.

You very carefully....in this post you have just made.....ignore the fact that I was then insulted by a one of the chatters....Littlerayofsunshine. She called me a liar, told me that my posts brought nothing informative to the forum threads, and told me that I was not a nice person and I think she actually said that everyone else was...''we the good and judicious people of the bisexual.com chat room''...Yes you forget to mention that she called me a troll. Yes! I was a troll, in her eyes, because I had come back with ''new identities''.....which is rubbish. I have people here that I like talking to and one has to be registered with a name, to enable one to talk to anyone.

This same person...Littlerayofsunshine...a few weeks ago...posted a link to my Myspace profile, in one of the forum threads. What sort of person does that and then smarmingly types, the other night, how great google is.

Your little post on this thread, fails to mention her rudeness to me and how that must surely be against the rules of the site!!! You have, in your post, painted a totally incorrect and false image of what happened, when I returned as Notredame, confused and puzzled as to why ''feetfourwalking'' was banned. If you think a few sudden sentences in type, in pm and no proper conversation is any way for any owner of any site to decide who and who isn't a troll, then I really don't think you believe in fairness or doing things in a right and proper manner.

AdamKadmon43 insults people in posts and gets taken to task by myself and also FalconAngel, but nothing is done about him and his ''flaming'' of people. I wonder why?? People in the chat room complain about him and often say, ''Why hasn't he been banned''.....but he never has been. Obviously, there is one rule for some and another rule for others.

For a long time, you and others, actually thought that I was Adam How on earth an educated woman, like yourself, could think that, I do not know. My English is totally different. My way of posting very different and I can spell!! It took reading his scandalous posts in the thread about the Bible, to make you realise that I was not Adam.....and you sent me a private message, apologising, for having ever thought that I was.

Just to add a little something....Littlerayofsunshine's insults upset me so much, that I was in tears, back here in dear old England. Another chatter, who I will not name, spent nearly an hour, talking to me, shocked by what had been said to me and also worried about me. That is the kind of person I like to talk to. Kind and sensible people. I'm no ''smartass'' and I don't like people like that.

I came here, to this site because I found that someone I cared about was visiting it and it was a big surprise. I stayed to read the threads and chat to people and I have had more time given to me, by people in the chat room, to talk about bisexuality, in pm, than ever a certain person, who supposedly cared about me, deemed good enough to give me.

So don't try to portray me coming back into the chat room as Notredame, in a totally different light, merely by quoting what you think you said and failing to mention other things that were said to me.

I did not disrupt the chat room and I was not shouting. So do not try and paint me in that manner. I was the one wronged and then insulted. I insulted no one.

I was not ''constantly bitching and moaning,'' I was asking ''why?''...as I saw no reason why ''feetfourwalking''....was banned. You did not stay quiet all that long.....for as I have already said, you had commented on the person wanting their pictures back, being Azrael.

Please do not quote out of context....miss things out and once again make yourself out to be one of the virtuous ''mother hens'' of the site, by saying that you stayed quiet for as long as you could. A few sentences of type and a few minutes, are hardly for staying quiet for as long as you could.

[stormalong]

Can't we all just get along?

[AdamKadmon43]

I wish I had not started this thread.

I will go away and not contribute anything else to this forum.

Maybe then she will shut up !

[csrakate]

Please do not quote out of context....miss things out and once again make yourself out to be one of the virtuous ''mother hens'' of the site, by saying that you stayed quiet for as long as you could. A few sentences of type and a few minutes, are hardly for staying quiet for as long as you could.

You're right, Canticle...I should have kept quiet and simply left the room, as should everyone else after you arrived once again as NotreDame. You insisted on continuing with your proclamations, refused to listen to any reason and egged on whatever insults you received. You insist that you are not welcome here because you are not bisexual...get a clue....it's because you refuse to drop the vendetta you have against another member. No one says what Adam says is nice, polite or appropriate....but he's not off on some witch hunt like you are. All we have asked is that you take the battle private and allow the rest of us to chat without having to listen to it. I did in fact apologize to you for my past beliefs that you were in fact Adam...but I also pleaded with you to drop this matter once and for all and move on with your life, not for Adam's sake but for your own well-being and serenity. YOU have chosen to make this your life's mission and as a result, the rest of us get punished by being forced to witness it. Please, stop playing the victim and let it go....you'll find you will get along with people much better once you do.

As for saying I want to be portrayed as a "virtuous mother hen"....interesting choice of words....I've been called that a time or two by our repeat visit troll...but I'd much rather be called that than a wounded and vindictive woman who won't get on with her life.

[Canticle]

Did I miss something...

I hate to say this, BUT I think this off tangent of the thread.

Thank you,
The Local Smartass


I think you really did miss something. Read the second post. That one makes a joke of me and mocks and jeers at me and makes me out to be the one who is the problem and has the problems, when nothing could be further from the truth. I am BrotherJack and once banned, needing to reregister with other names. I actually come here to chat to people these days, not worry about AdamKadmon43. Of course, if he says I am the problem, I must be.....but as he is just a line of type....and no one knows him and I do.....you don't have to care whether or not he tells the truth.

By the way.....read the bottom of my post. I didn't go off subject.

'''By the way...had it never occurred to Adam, that the reason he was unable to access sites which mentioned homosexuality, was because maybe the power that be, who run the camp sites, which have internet access, have to guard against any under age children accessing sites. it could be said that their parents should have parental control selected on the lap tops, but this is not the way things always go. Personally, I would have thought that going camping was a reason not to want access to the internet for a few days, but we are all different. I think it's a shame that Adam Has to spend all say for most of his days, drunk and trawling through pornography sites. There is a world out there and a life to be lived.'''

Meaning that those in control of running places like the camp sites and ones with Internet access, have to think of more people than adults or splitting people into different sexualities, ages, intellects etc.

Children are found on camp sites. Children, who for some odd reason, may have taken their lap tops with them, when escaping the rat race, along with the rest of the family. The parents may not always have enabled adult control over what any minors maybe able to access on lap tops, or other computers and therefore, realising this, those that run the camp sites, have to take every precaution, to cover themselves and protect underage access to adult sites.

Such a pity that if a person goes on a camping trip and goes with the intent of escaping the day to day grind and getting out into the country, that they should feel the need to take that everyday world with them. If an adult cannot refrain from entering ANY very adult site, for a few days, that is most odd, to say the least.

Children have access to the Internet. Adults don't always supervise that access. Some sites have no way of finding out the age of the person accessing the content. Someone therefore has to take some responsibility. I reckon that it would not only be sites that mentioned the word ''homosexuality,'' that one would be denied access to...but plenty other adult sites.

People visiting the camp sites would be horrified if a child accessed an unsuitable web site and would be furious with those who control the camp sites and the wi fii connections. I can just imagine the many people who would take this to a court of law...demanding damages be paid to their child, because of the ''trauma'' the unsuitable access had caused.

As Falcon said.....if you want something...you have to fight for it......BUT, you also have to understand and reaslise why certain access is denied one, in certain circumstances. You can't just say...''but I'm an adult''.....one person is not the whole population of campers.

[Canticle]

Did I miss something...

I hate to say this, BUT I think this off tangent of the thread.

Thank you,
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I think you really did miss something. Read the second post. That one makes a joke of me and mocks and jeers at me and makes me out to be the one who is the problem and has the problems, when nothing could be further from the truth. I am BrotherJack and once banned, needed to reregister with other names. I actually come here to chat to people these days, and not worry about AdamKadmon43. Of course, if he says I am the problem, I must be.....but as he is just a line of type....and no one knows him and I do.....you don't have to care whether or not he tells the truth.

By the way.....read the bottom of my post. I didn't go off subject.

'''By the way...had it never occurred to Adam, that the reason he was unable to access sites which mentioned homosexuality, was because maybe the power that be, who run the camp sites, which have internet access, have to guard against any under age children accessing sites. it could be said that their parents should have parental control selected on the lap tops, but this is not the way things always go. Personally, I would have thought that going camping was a reason not to want access to the internet for a few days, but we are all different. I think it's a shame that Adam Has to spend all say for most of his days, drunk and trawling through pornography sites. There is a world out there and a life to be lived.'''

Meaning that those in control of running places like the camp sites and ones with Internet access, have to think of more people than adults or splitting people into different sexualities, ages, intellects etc.

Children are found on camp sites. Children, who for some odd reason, may have taken their lap tops with them, when escaping the rat race, along with the rest of the family. The parents may not always have enabled adult control over what any minors maybe able to access on lap tops, or other computers and therefore, realising this, those that run the camp sites, have to take every precaution, to cover themselves and protect underage access to adult sites.

Such a pity that if a person goes on a camping trip and goes with the intent of escaping the day to day grind and getting out into the country, that they should feel the need to take that everyday world with them. If an adult cannot refrain from entering ANY very adult site, for a few days, that is most odd, to say the least.

Children have access to the Internet. Adults don't always supervise that access. Some sites have no way of finding out the age of the person accessing the content. Someone therefore has to take some responsibility. I reckon that it would not only be sites that mentioned the word ''homosexuality,'' that one would be denied access to...but plenty other adult sites.

People visiting the camp sites would be horrified if a child accessed an unsuitable web site and would be furious with those who control the camp sites and the wi fii connections. I can just imagine the many people who would take this to a court of law...demanding damages be paid to their child, because of the ''trauma'' the unsuitable access had caused.

As Falcon said.....if you want something...you have to fight for it......BUT, you also have to understand and reaslise why certain access is denied one, in certain circumstances. You can't just say...''but I'm an adult''.....one person is not the whole population of the camping.

[jamieknyc]

"Drew owns this site and he can do what he likes. He has put certain rules in place and if you don't follow those rules, he has every right to ban you."

This part of what you say, is correct......something you are always saying....except for me not following any rules....As ''feetfourwalking''...I have been extremely careful, in how I have worded my posts.

It really is a kop out for you to merely say, that Drew owns the site and can do what he likes. I take it that if there was a sudden uprising by all the members of the site, and none of them followed the rules, he would ban everyone.

If a site is opened for the benefit of people of a certain sexuality and also the benefit of the people who are their friends and loved ones, a totalitarian form of rule, is hardly the way to make people want to come back and join in a community.

Maybe that is why so many people have their names listed as members, in the members' list of names, but have not returned here for some years. Perhaps it explains why, give or take a few, the same people seem to post on the forum, or be found in the chat room. Remember, I did say give or take a few.

When has AdamKadmon43 followed the rules of the site? when he has been rude and insulting in forum posts, or come to the chat room, just to annoy people. I know he deliberately comes to the chat room, to do so. I have had him tell me, that he is off to make mischief and get himself into trouble. When he says that, he means the chat room here and the chat room of at least one other site. I won't tell you what he says about people who are visitors to this site, or others.....but is not polite.

''Before you go quoting me again, I'd appreciate it if you would do so in the context in which it was said. You were disrupting the chat room, shouting how unfair it was that he came into the chat room, spoke briefly to you and then banned you. I stayed silent as long as I could...but hearing you constantly bitch and moan about being unjustly banned finally got to me. I do believe what I said was more like this:''

This is not what happened when I returned to the room as Notredame. You did not stay silent for long and I do not believe anything ''got to you'', in the dramatic manner in which you express yourself.

I questioned why I should have been banned and mentioned what Drew had said to me. When I mentioned him asking me if I was the person who had emailed him, asking for pictures to be retutned, you posted, ''That was Azrael,'' and I think I answered that I knew that....as I had seen the post.

How was I disrupting the chat room, when I came back, confused as to why ''feetfourwalking'' had been banned. I had been careful with my posts and had not said anything wrong to anyone. I had not tried to hide who I was, when in the chat room and have chatted quite happily with people, ignoring Adam when he has decided to play the drama king.

Please explain to me how I was ''shouting''....when I was merely asking, because I was puzzled, why ''feetfourwalking'' was suddenly banned. If asking a few questions and being puzzled is shouting....then I guess you are right....it seems that things are seen very differently by you...things that happen.

You very carefully....in this post you have just made.....ignore the fact that I was then insulted by a one of the chatters....Littlerayofsunshine. She called me a liar, told me that my posts brought nothing informative to the forum threads, and told me that I was not a nice person and I think she actually said that everyone else was...''we the good and judicious people of the bisexual.com chat room''...Yes you forget to mention that she called me a troll. Yes! I was a troll, in her eyes, because I had come back with ''new identities''.....which is rubbish. I have people here that I like talking to and one has to be registered with a name, to enable one to talk to anyone.

This same person...Littlerayofsunshine...a few weeks ago...posted a link to my Myspace profile, in one of the forum threads. What sort of person does that and then smarmingly types, the other night, how great google is.

Your little post on this thread, fails to mention her rudeness to me and how that must surely be against the rules of the site!!! You have, in your post, painted a totally incorrect and false image of what happened, when I returned as Notredame, confused and puzzled as to why ''feetfourwalking'' was banned. If you think a few sudden sentences in type, in pm and no proper conversation is any way for any owner of any site to decide who and who isn't a troll, then I really don't think you believe in fairness or doing things in a right and proper manner.

AdamKadmon43 insults people in posts and gets taken to task by myself and also FalconAngel, but nothing is done about him and his ''flaming'' of people. I wonder why?? People in the chat room complain about him and often say, ''Why hasn't he been banned''.....but he never has been. Obviously, there is one rule for some and another rule for others.

For a long time, you and others, actually thought that I was Adam How on earth an educated woman, like yourself, could think that, I do not know. My English is totally different. My way of posting very different and I can spell!! It took reading his scandalous posts in the thread about the Bible, to make you realise that I was not Adam.....and you sent me a private message, apologising, for having ever thought that I was.

Just to add a little something....Littlerayofsunshine's insults upset me so much, that I was in tears, back here in dear old England. Another chatter, who I will not name, spent nearly an hour, talking to me, shocked by what had been said to me and also worried about me. That is the kind of person I like to talk to. Kind and sensible people. I'm no ''smartass'' and I don't like people like that.

I came here, to this site because I found that someone I cared about was visiting it and it was a big surprise. I stayed to read the threads and chat to people and I have had more time given to me, by people in the chat room, to talk about bisexuality, in pm, than ever a certain person, who supposedly cared about me, deemed good enough to give me.

So don't try to portray me coming back into the chat room as Notredame, in a totally different light, merely by quoting what you think you said and failing to mention other things that were said to me.

I did not disrupt the chat room and I was not shouting. So do not try and paint me in that manner. I was the one wronged and then insulted. I insulted no one.

I was not ''constantly bitching and moaning,'' I was asking ''why?''...as I saw no reason why ''feetfourwalking''....was banned. You did not stay quiet all that long.....for as I have already said, you had commented on the person wanting their pictures back, being Azrael.

Please do not quote out of context....miss things out and once again make yourself out to be one of the virtuous ''mother hens'' of the site, by saying that you stayed quiet for as long as you could. A few sentences of type and a few minutes, are hardly for staying quiet for as long as you could.

I don't give a crap about AdamKadmon, but everyone here is sick of hearing your interminable rants against him. Go cyber-stalk him somewhere else and leave the rest of us alone, because frankly, you're boring as s***.

[Canticle]

You're right, Canticle...I should have kept quiet and simply left the room, as should everyone else after you arrived once again as NotreDame. You insisted on continuing with your proclamations, refused to listen to any reason and egged on whatever insults you received. You insist that you are not welcome here because you are not bisexual...get a clue....it's because you refuse to drop the vendetta you have against another member. No one says what Adam says is nice, polite or appropriate....but he's not off on some witch hunt like you are. All we have asked is that you take the battle private and allow the rest of us to chat without having to listen to it. I did in fact apologize to you for my past beliefs that you were in fact Adam...but I also pleaded with you to drop this matter once and for all and move on with your life, not for Adam's sake but for your own well-being and serenity. YOU have chosen to make this your life's mission and as a result, the rest of us get punished by being forced to witness it. Please, stop playing the victim and let it go....you'll find you will get along with people much better once you do.

As for saying I want to be portrayed as a "virtuous mother hen"....interesting choice of words....I've been called that a time or two by our repeat visit troll...but I'd much rather be called that than a wounded and vindictive woman who won't get on with her life.

''You're right, Canticle...I should have kept quiet and simply left the room, as should everyone else after you arrived once again as NotreDame.''

I didn't...simply arrive once again....as Notredame. That is a name, I have had for a long time. Disn't use for a long time. The name has nothing to do with who I am...it's just a name.

Rather silly to think that you should need to leave a room....that's as pathetic as banning all and sundry who say what others don't want to hear and erasing them.....a terrible thing to do.

''You insisted on continuing with your proclamations, refused to listen to any reason and egged on whatever insults you received.''

This is simply untrue. I did not make proclamations. Asking questions ''why'' and being confused as to why one was suddenly and unfairly banned and with no reason, are not proclamations. So...in your eyes...I should just have taken Littlerayofsunshine's insults and not responded. What were you doing at this time...nodding your head in agreement with her...or thinking tut tut...this is going against the rules of the site and Littleray is flaming someone?????

''You insist that you are not welcome here because you are not bisexual...get a clue....it's because you refuse to drop the vendetta you have against another member.''

Yes...I do think so...when reading the first part of this sentence. And get a ckue.....I do not have any vendetta against anyone. What I do not like to see is someone, who I now know to be a liar, being rude to people and telling lies. I have seen posts by you, where you take people to task and they could easily have said that you were ''flaming'' them. There is no difference. I like the truth....I don't like lies.

''No one says what Adam says is nice, polite or appropriate....but he's not off on some witch hunt like you are.''

So if Adam is not nice, polite or appropriate and also insults people in the forum...flaming them......why has he not been banned. Adam and all his other identities. I am on no witch hunt.....I ignore him now. And Adam on no witch hunt?....No, of course he isn't. He likes to find people and then use them or be rude to them and he wants to self destruct. That is a witch hunt in my reasoning and my reasoning is sound.....Adam is but a line of type to you.

''All we have asked is that you take the battle private and allow the rest of us to chat without having to listen to it.''

There is no battle! There never was a battle, just a longing for someone to be a decent enough human being and talk. By the way...you may chat....so do I...and converse.....Adam makes ''proclamations'' and ''look at me posts''...so desperate is he for attention. I don't want attention...but any chat room I visit, I don't leave the real worls behind...I live in reality.....not fantasy or a nether world or a cosy by the fire feeling.

''I did in fact apologize to you for my past beliefs that you were in fact Adam...but I also pleaded with you to drop this matter once and for all and move on with your life, not for Adam's sake but for your own well-being and serenity.''

Thank you for confirming that you did give me that apology. What matter is their to drop? My life goes on...in the REAL world and I have a life I have to live. It does not mean that I will be happy until I get some truth and respect from a man who just ran away and thought it cool to be a liar. Here on this site, I tired of his drama, long ago. it will have been noticed by many, that on many recent occasions, i have totally ignored him, and this infuriates him as he wants the attention and the drama. I will continue to ignore him. He never says anything that he has not already said on another site, so I have no need to worry about my well being or serenity.

''YOU have chosen to make this your life's mission and as a result, the rest of us get punished by being forced to witness it. Please, stop playing the victim and let it go....you'll find you will get along with people much better once you do.''

Do you honestlythink that this is the only site where Adam acts the court jester and the fool. if you cannot see that he is the attention seeker...then you must have blinkered vision. If ignored...here or on any site...he will leave in a huff. Don't tell me what my mission in life is....for you have no idea.

I do not PLAY the victim. I would never call myself the victim, unlike anothr person. I just had the misfortunne to meet and grow to care for one of the most devious and uncaring people one could ever have the misfortune encounter.

By the way.....I get along with quite a few people.....quite well! Many, in fact.

''As for saying I want to be portrayed as a "virtuous mother hen"....interesting choice of words....I've been called that a time or two by our repeat visit troll...but I'd much rather be called that than a wounded and vindictive woman who won't get on with her life.''

Are you now accusing me of being the repeat visit troll? If you are, please withdraw this, because I am not. I have seen posts by many people recently, who have been called ''the troll.'' and seen what I consider to be a kind of hysteria develop. In the incest thread, my posts which were as valuable as those of anyone else were erased, making a nonsense of those that are left...that replied to me and the posts of someone...who was obviously seen as a troll...deleted. i never viewe that person's posts as ''trollish''....maybe because I don't have that mindset and don't think of people as trolls. If they are rude, insulting and vulgar....the posts can be ignored. Erase them and then you give the trouble maker what they wanted.

Perhaps I have seen you described as a virtuous mother hen, by one of these many, many trolls.....and maybe it stuck in my mind. I don't know. Or maybe, because I am English, well spoken and reasonably well educated, and this was a phrase I often heard when growing up...maybe that is what caused me to use such an expression. I could also have used the term ''earth mother''....or I could have used some derogaroty term. This I did not do.

It still amuses me that people cry ''troll'' whenever there is a post they do not like, or does not agree with them. Adam has been called a troll....I have been called a troll...many have. The truth of it probably is, that the person who enjoys repeat''trolling'' under many, many different names, is probably what is called, ''one of your own,'' someone who gets disgruntled with things and sees what he/she does as amusing.

When it comes to having the want or the time to do such a thing...I cannot think of a pass time more soul destroyingly boring. When it comes to someone emailing insults to dozens of people....how sad the person must be. However, mentioning that he/she has done so, is exactly what the person wants.....and when ''Troll Alert'' threads are begun.....that same person must also be smiling.

Whether they be troll or not, if I see a reasonable post, not rude or vulgar and i think it requires a comment, I will answer it. I will not automatically assume that someone is a troll, because they don't seem to ''fit in'' and make disparaging remarks. My answer to these posts, could be negative or positive...depending upon the post. The person is only type on a screen...that is how I look at it.

So....NO....I am no troll!!!!

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[Canticle]

I don't give a crap about AdamKadmon, but everyone here is sick of hearing your interminable rants against him. Go cyber-stalk him somewhere else and leave the rest of us alone, because frankly, you're boring as s***.

I don't rant about anyone. I'll leave the ranting to someone else. Awfully sorry that I am so terribly english in my posts...but that's what I am....go figure.

I don't cyber stalk anyone. If someone has told people that...well once again...a lie.

Oh, I am not boring...I can converse with people about many different subjects.......I don't have a one track mind.....or mode of thinking.

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OOoopps Wrong thread.. So Sorry :rolleyes:

How old are you? How incredibly childish and immature!

[Canticle]

In fact Littlerayofsunshine......I think you have an attitude problem. I so hope you don't communicate with people like this real time.

[Canticle]

You're right, Canticle...I should have kept quiet and simply left the room, as should everyone else after you arrived once again as NotreDame. You insisted on continuing with your proclamations, refused to listen to any reason and egged on whatever insults you received. You insist that you are not welcome here because you are not bisexual...get a clue....it's because you refuse to drop the vendetta you have against another member. No one says what Adam says is nice, polite or appropriate....but he's not off on some witch hunt like you are. All we have asked is that you take the battle private and allow the rest of us to chat without having to listen to it. I did in fact apologize to you for my past beliefs that you were in fact Adam...but I also pleaded with you to drop this matter once and for all and move on with your life, not for Adam's sake but for your own well-being and serenity. YOU have chosen to make this your life's mission and as a result, the rest of us get punished by being forced to witness it. Please, stop playing the victim and let it go....you'll find you will get along with people much better once you do.

As for saying I want to be portrayed as a "virtuous mother hen"....interesting choice of words....I've been called that a time or two by our repeat visit troll...but I'd much rather be called that than a wounded and vindictive woman who won't get on with her life.

''You're right, Canticle...I should have kept quiet and simply left the room, as should everyone else after you arrived once again as NotreDame.''

I didn't...simply arrive once again....as Notredame. That is a name, I have had for a long time. Disn't use for a long time. The name has nothing to do with who I am...it's just a name.

Rather silly to think that you should need to leave a room....that's as pathetic as banning all and sundry who say what others don't want to hear and erasing them.....a terrible thing to do.

''You insisted on continuing with your proclamations, refused to listen to any reason and egged on whatever insults you received.''

This is simply untrue. I did not make proclamations. Asking questions ''why'' and being confused as to why one was suddenly and unfairly banned and with no reason, are not proclamations. So...in your eyes...I should just have taken Littlerayofsunshine's insults and not responded. What were you doing at this time...nodding your head in agreement with her...or thinking tut tut...this is going against the rules of the site and Littleray is flaming someone?????

''You insist that you are not welcome here because you are not bisexual...get a clue....it's because you refuse to drop the vendetta you have against another member.''

Yes...I do think so...when reading the first part of this sentence. And get a ckue.....I do not have any vendetta against anyone. What I do not like to see is someone, who I now know to be a liar, being rude to people and telling lies. I have seen posts by you, where you take people to task and they could easily have said that you were ''flaming'' them. There is no difference. I like the truth....I don't like lies.

''No one says what Adam says is nice, polite or appropriate....but he's not off on some witch hunt like you are.''

So if Adam is not nice, polite or appropriate and also insults people in the forum...flaming them......why has he not been banned. Adam and all his other identities. I am on no witch hunt.....I ignore him now. And Adam on no witch hunt?....No, of course he isn't. He likes to find people and then use them or be rude to them and he wants to self destruct. That is a witch hunt in my reasoning and my reasoning is sound.....Adam is but a line of type to you.

''All we have asked is that you take the battle private and allow the rest of us to chat without having to listen to it.''

There is no battle! There never was a battle, just a longing for someone to be a decent enough human being and talk. By the way...you may chat....so do I...and converse.....Adam makes ''proclamations'' and ''look at me posts''...so desperate is he for attention. I don't want attention...but any chat room I visit, I don't leave the real worls behind...I live in reality.....not fantasy or a nether world or a cosy by the fire feeling.

''I did in fact apologize to you for my past beliefs that you were in fact Adam...but I also pleaded with you to drop this matter once and for all and move on with your life, not for Adam's sake but for your own well-being and serenity.''

Thank you for confirming that you did give me that apology. What matter is their to drop? My life goes on...in the REAL world and I have a life I have to live. It does not mean that I will be happy until I get some truth and respect from a man who just ran away and thought it cool to be a liar. Here on this site, I tired of his drama, long ago. it will have been noticed by many, that on many recent occasions, i have totally ignored him, and this infuriates him as he wants the attention and the drama. I will continue to ignore him. He never says anything that he has not already said on another site, so I have no need to worry about my well being or serenity.

''YOU have chosen to make this your life's mission and as a result, the rest of us get punished by being forced to witness it. Please, stop playing the victim and let it go....you'll find you will get along with people much better once you do.''

Do you honestlythink that this is the only site where Adam acts the court jester and the fool. if you cannot see that he is the attention seeker...then you must have blinkered vision. If ignored...here or on any site...he will leave in a huff. Don't tell me what my mission in life is....for you have no idea.

I do not PLAY the victim. I would never call myself the victim, unlike anothr person. I just had the misfortunne to meet and grow to care for one of the most devious and uncaring people one could ever have the misfortune encounter.

By the way.....I get along with quite a few people.....quite well! Many, in fact.

''As for saying I want to be portrayed as a "virtuous mother hen"....interesting choice of words....I've been called that a time or two by our repeat visit troll...but I'd much rather be called that than a wounded and vindictive woman who won't get on with her life.''

Are you now accusing me of being the repeat visit troll? If you are, please withdraw this, because I am not. I have seen posts by many people recently, who have been called ''the troll.'' and seen what I consider to be a kind of hysteria develop. In the incest thread, my posts which were as valuable as those of anyone else were erased, making a nonsense of those that are left...that replied to me and the posts of someone...who was obviously seen as a troll...deleted. i never viewe that person's posts as ''trollish''....maybe because I don't have that mindset and don't think of people as trolls. If they are rude, insulting and vulgar....the posts can be ignored. Erase them and then you give the trouble maker what they wanted.

Perhaps I have seen you described as a virtuous mother hen, by one of these many, many trolls.....and maybe it stuck in my mind. I don't know. Or maybe, because I am English, well spoken and reasonably well educated, and this was a phrase I often heard when growing up...maybe that is what caused me to use such an expression. I could also have used the term ''earth mother''....or I could have used some derogaroty term. This I did not do.

It still amuses me that people cry ''troll'' whenever there is a post they do not like, or does not agree with them. Adam has been called a troll....I have been called a troll...many have. The truth of it probably is, that the person who enjoys repeat''trolling'' under many, many different names, is probably what is called, ''one of your own,'' someone who gets disgruntled with things and sees what he/she does as amusing.

When it comes to having the want or the time to do such a thing...I cannot think of a pass time more soul destroyingly boring. When it comes to someone emailing insults to dozens of people....how sad the person must be. However, mentioning that he/she has done so, is exactly what the person wants.....and when ''Troll Alert'' threads are begun.....that same person must also be smiling.

Whether they be troll or not, if I see a reasonable post, not rude or vulgar and i think it requires a comment, I will answer it. I will not automatically assume that someone is a troll, because they don't seem to ''fit in'' and make disparaging remarks. My answer to these posts, could be negative or positive...depending upon the post. The person is only type on a screen...that is how I look at it.

So....NO....I am no troll!!!!

[allbimyself]

How old are you? How incredibly childish and immature!

"Mr. Kettle? I have a call for you from a Mr. Pot."

[Flounder1967]

This is almost fun now. I will state it again. If the camp site is gov't owened or recieves money for this enventure then banning is bad. Why only homosexuality and not all porn. Big differance. Second It's the responability of the parents to screen what heir children see and hear. NOT THE GOV'T.


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If Adam goes to the ACLU he can be annonamis and they can fight without disclosing his name. I Think.

Your Long rants have noyhi9ng to do with theses threads execpt for an occational memtion of Adam. So they are off tangent. So there:tongue:

[Canticle]

This is almost fun now. I will state it again. If the camp site is gov't owened or recieves money for this enventure then banning is bad. Why only homosexuality and not all porn. Big differance. Second It's the responability of the parents to screen what heir children see and hear. NOT THE GOV'T.


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If Adam goes to the ACLU he can be annonamis and they can fight without disclosing his name. I Think.

Your Long rants have noyhi9ng to do with theses threads execpt for an occational memtion of Adam. So they are off tangent. So there:tongue:

I agree...it is the job of parents to screen what the children view, but as this does not happen, the governing authorities have to cover themselves. Some parent would be bound to bring a law suit saying that the people running the camp sites had allowed their child to be corrupted. Maybe the case would get thrown out, but who knows in these days of being awarded vast amounts of money in the way of damages.

Oh....staying anonymous....Oh, I don't believe in that. Fight for what you believe in and put one's name to that fight.

I don't rant! Talking of going off at a tangent.....you ought to read Charlotte Bronte's Villette......amazing....sometimes reaches the heights of the preternatual!:rolleyes:

[Canticle]

"Mr. Kettle? I have a call for you from a Mr. Pot."

Not a Mr...I'm a Ms.....and I am not immature. I post in an adult manner, using adult language.

[Canticle]

I wish I had not started this thread.

I will go away and not contribute anything else to this forum.

Maybe then she will shut up !


I am not just ''she'' or any other of your contacts, who decided to not tolerate your nonsense, who you feel should then be made to ''shut up.''

One day, you may learn to care about the feelings of other people, whether it be in a chat room, in your real time personal life, or with someone who became your friend..a true friend. one day you may learn to repay friendship with things other than lies.

You won't go away and never post on the forum again. You know that. Everyone knows that. you'll always be back. Just like I'll continue to get the occasional email, or text.

[Doggie_Wood]

1) I wish I had not started this thread.

2) I will go away and not contribute anything else to this forum.

3) Maybe then she will shut up !

1) That makes two of us - but check out the ACLU twist

2) Patience Adam, patience!

3) We can only hope!

For someone that says a lot yet is but little - such a gift (yeck!) of babble.
(not you Adam)

[stormalong]

Thank goodness for that ignore feature, sheesh!

[allbimyself]

Not a Mr...I'm a Ms.....and I am not immature. I post in an adult manner, using adult language.

You're not very bright if you think your gender is the issue.

You do NOT post in an adult manner. Adults do NOT use every post about any topic made by an individual as a call to arms to conduct character assassination.

[Canticle]

Perhaps they thought that this is a porn site or you were not allowed to go to it because it's a site for adults only?

Did you try going to look at straight porn and see what happened?


A very good point to make! A very sensible one

[Canticle]

1) That makes two of us - but check out the ACLU twist

2) Patience Adam, patience!

3) We can only hope!

For someone that says a lot yet is but little - such a gift (yeck!) of babble.
(not you Adam)

I don't babble. I am a person who can talk about many subjects. If I say what YOU don't want to hear.....that's tough. I express myself well and Adam knows that. I am not ''but little''....I am as important and as valuable as anyone else on this site, or any other, or anyone on the planet. We are all important and what we have to say, each and every one of us, is important. So sorry that you don't know Adam and were not a part of his life, like I was and he a part of mine. There was a time, when he could not think of a life without me, nor I him...and me...I still can't. Believe me...when he needs someone...really needs someone...I know who will get the call. And I won't turn him away. I never could or would...even if he has lied to me for three and a half years. I don't abandon friends. So he knows...when push comes to shove, I'll still be around to listen to his woes.

[Canticle]

You're not very bright if you think your gender is the issue.

You do NOT post in an adult manner. Adults do NOT use every post about any topic made by an individual as a call to arms to conduct character assassination.

What could my gender have to do with anything? I am female! That is my gender! Do you mean my sexuality?

I do post in an adult manner. I am an adult and i speak the Queen's English and use it as best I can.

''Adults do NOT use every post about any topic made by an individual as a call to arms to conduct character assassination.''

This is totally false. Not true at all. I deal in truth and where I see anyone else or myself, misquoted, or words being put into my mouth, that have not been said, or actions in a chat room, that did not take place, I will speak out. I'll defend anyone, myself...or any other human being.

If you read the second post in this thread, you will see a mocking attack on me. if that post had not been made, I would not even have bothered to post here, on this thread. it was posted and I defended myself. I don't do character assassinations.....I just tell the truth...like it is...the real truth. I don't insult someone in a chatroom...like Littleraydid and say things which were totally untrue. Nor, like Littleray, would I do the incredibly childish thing, of posting lots of insulting, teenage style, pictures. Of course, that is not wrong...is it....and we all know why! And to think....I requested that the incest thread should end....to spare her feelings!!!!!!!

[Doggiestyle]

:bigrin: LMAO , Nothing better than a bit of Friday nite drama, huh? :bigrin: <=> :bigrin: somehow, I had a feeling that my reply would start a really BIG FUCKIN HUMONGUS KILLER AVALANCHE. :bigrin:

[Canticle]

:bigrin: LMAO , Nothing better than a bit of Friday nite drama, huh? :bigrin: <=> :bigrin: somehow, I had a feeling that my reply would start a really BIG FUCKIN HUMONGUS KILLER AVALANCHE. :bigrin:

What an intelligent and exciting and mature thing to want to do.....not! How immature, how childish and how pointless...and ultimately...how very sad.

[Doggie_Wood]

Pphhhhtttttt! LOL

[Canticle]

Pphhhhtttttt! LOL

Gee...real meaningful.

[onewhocares]

You're not very bright if you think your gender is the issue.

You do NOT post in an adult manner. Adults do NOT use every post about any topic made by an individual as a call to arms to conduct character assassination.


I agree Allbi.... my thoughts....about our responder C....to quote the Bard...

"Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Friday night amusement....now chuckles on Saturday.

[littlerayofsunshine]

"Drew owns this site and he can do what he likes. He has put certain rules in place and if you don't follow those rules, he has every right to ban you."

This part of what you say, is correct......something you are always saying....except for me not following any rules....As ''feetfourwalking''...I have been extremely careful, in how I have worded my posts.

It really is a kop out for you to merely say, that Drew owns the site and can do what he likes. I take it that if there was a sudden uprising by all the members of the site, and none of them followed the rules, he would ban everyone.

If a site is opened for the benefit of people of a certain sexuality and also the benefit of the people who are their friends and loved ones, a totalitarian form of rule, is hardly the way to make people want to come back and join in a community.

Maybe that is why so many people have their names listed as members, in the members' list of names, but have not returned here for some years. Perhaps it explains why, give or take a few, the same people seem to post on the forum, or be found in the chat room. Remember, I did say give or take a few.

When has AdamKadmon43 followed the rules of the site? when he has been rude and insulting in forum posts, or come to the chat room, just to annoy people. I know he deliberately comes to the chat room, to do so. I have had him tell me, that he is off to make mischief and get himself into trouble. When he says that, he means the chat room here and the chat room of at least one other site. I won't tell you what he says about people who are visitors to this site, or others.....but is not polite.

''Before you go quoting me again, I'd appreciate it if you would do so in the context in which it was said. You were disrupting the chat room, shouting how unfair it was that he came into the chat room, spoke briefly to you and then banned you. I stayed silent as long as I could...but hearing you constantly bitch and moan about being unjustly banned finally got to me. I do believe what I said was more like this:''

This is not what happened when I returned to the room as Notredame. You did not stay silent for long and I do not believe anything ''got to you'', in the dramatic manner in which you express yourself.

I questioned why I should have been banned and mentioned what Drew had said to me. When I mentioned him asking me if I was the person who had emailed him, asking for pictures to be retutned, you posted, ''That was Azrael,'' and I think I answered that I knew that....as I had seen the post.

How was I disrupting the chat room, when I came back, confused as to why ''feetfourwalking'' had been banned. I had been careful with my posts and had not said anything wrong to anyone. I had not tried to hide who I was, when in the chat room and have chatted quite happily with people, ignoring Adam when he has decided to play the drama king.

Please explain to me how I was ''shouting''....when I was merely asking, because I was puzzled, why ''feetfourwalking'' was suddenly banned. If asking a few questions and being puzzled is shouting....then I guess you are right....it seems that things are seen very differently by you...things that happen.

You very carefully....in this post you have just made.....ignore the fact that I was then insulted by a one of the chatters....Littlerayofsunshine. She called me a liar, told me that my posts brought nothing informative to the forum threads, and told me that I was not a nice person and I think she actually said that everyone else was...''we the good and judicious people of the bisexual.com chat room''...Yes you forget to mention that she called me a troll. Yes! I was a troll, in her eyes, because I had come back with ''new identities''.....which is rubbish. I have people here that I like talking to and one has to be registered with a name, to enable one to talk to anyone.

This same person...Littlerayofsunshine...a few weeks ago...posted a link to my Myspace profile, in one of the forum threads. What sort of person does that and then smarmingly types, the other night, how great google is.

Your little post on this thread, fails to mention her rudeness to me and how that must surely be against the rules of the site!!! You have, in your post, painted a totally incorrect and false image of what happened, when I returned as Notredame, confused and puzzled as to why ''feetfourwalking'' was banned. If you think a few sudden sentences in type, in pm and no proper conversation is any way for any owner of any site to decide who and who isn't a troll, then I really don't think you believe in fairness or doing things in a right and proper manner.

AdamKadmon43 insults people in posts and gets taken to task by myself and also FalconAngel, but nothing is done about him and his ''flaming'' of people. I wonder why?? People in the chat room complain about him and often say, ''Why hasn't he been banned''.....but he never has been. Obviously, there is one rule for some and another rule for others.

For a long time, you and others, actually thought that I was Adam How on earth an educated woman, like yourself, could think that, I do not know. My English is totally different. My way of posting very different and I can spell!! It took reading his scandalous posts in the thread about the Bible, to make you realise that I was not Adam.....and you sent me a private message, apologising, for having ever thought that I was.

Just to add a little something....Littlerayofsunshine's insults upset me so much, that I was in tears, back here in dear old England. Another chatter, who I will not name, spent nearly an hour, talking to me, shocked by what had been said to me and also worried about me. That is the kind of person I like to talk to. Kind and sensible people. I'm no ''smartass'' and I don't like people like that.

I came here, to this site because I found that someone I cared about was visiting it and it was a big surprise. I stayed to read the threads and chat to people and I have had more time given to me, by people in the chat room, to talk about bisexuality, in pm, than ever a certain person, who supposedly cared about me, deemed good enough to give me.

So don't try to portray me coming back into the chat room as Notredame, in a totally different light, merely by quoting what you think you said and failing to mention other things that were said to me.

I did not disrupt the chat room and I was not shouting. So do not try and paint me in that manner. I was the one wronged and then insulted. I insulted no one.

I was not ''constantly bitching and moaning,'' I was asking ''why?''...as I saw no reason why ''feetfourwalking''....was banned. You did not stay quiet all that long.....for as I have already said, you had commented on the person wanting their pictures back, being Azrael.

Please do not quote out of context....miss things out and once again make yourself out to be one of the virtuous ''mother hens'' of the site, by saying that you stayed quiet for as long as you could. A few sentences of type and a few minutes, are hardly for staying quiet for as long as you could.



Aww I think she is falling in love with me. "She" talks about me so much... My momma used to say about immature boys is that the ones that are mean to ya... really like you.... For someone who isn't a bi woman, you are sure trying to get in my panties and up my craw....


I call you a liar cause I know its true. I made a response to one of your other identities about you having multiple person.. Your response was "Who told you that? It's a lie! Do not say untrue remarks about me".


Well lets just get it all on the table... Here's a rundown as best as I can provide it... You had at least two identities before BrotherJack and this current one you are using Canticle and NotreDame. Then after BrotherJack, you have been Feet4walking and Feetfourwalking.

You are on your 5th head of the Hydra or the 5th name of the many of Legion., However one chooses to see it. You have been banned, only to return multiple times, you can't tell when you are not wanted, your husband didn't want you, therefore the "Divorce" and Adam doesn't want you. And I can't say I blame him. I would have lied and ran to the high hills once I saw how crazy you are. You are a troll and even by people's standards you are a troll. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Internet&#37;20troll)


Yes I posted links to your responses in a myspace forum. To show the other members here how you stalk and twist words just to attack adam wherever he goes.

But I did not attack you in the chat room. I told the room that feetfourwalking came back as notredame after you got banned by the OWNER of the site. I said that you are a troll and that your posts are useless and uninformative. That you contribute nothing into the decorum of a forum. I never said what you quoted I said
''we the good and judicious people of the bisexual.com chat room''. Me and other members were talking about how there should be some members that could be moderators. I said if we could be moderators We would have to be Judicious. Which means FAIR and by the standard.


You seem to have a problem with facts, even when they are printed. You have misquoted Kate and now me. As I said in chat you twist words to make yourself a victim, always a victim. Which is true.. You call me a liar, but every time you open a new post, you solidify everything I have said about your trolling ways.


And if you don't have enough ways to show you are a dumb vindictive bitch. Now there is a new example... Your response to my BUMPER STICKER post that was ACCIDENTALLY posted here. If you actually took time to be a civil person instead of a Dumb ass, you would have saw that I posted the link to that post on the actual bumper sticker thread cause I wasn't going to retype it all over again.

So thank you for turning my mistake into your personal assface showing of yourself.

Oh and BTW: You talking to one of your other identities in chat doth not a caring friend make.

[_Joe_]

Let's all calm down and remember why we came to this site....


http://www.crazyjoe.us/stuff/FamilyPicture

[Canticle]

I agree Allbi.... my thoughts....about our responder C....to quote the Bard...

"Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Friday night amusement....now chuckles on Saturday.


Belle, I hate to disappoint you, but I am no idiot, and I am not ''full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.''

I do realise that you are an educated woman, which will also mean that you have intellect. Your usage of the English language is very good and I applaud you for that.

Just because I don't post in the manner some would wish and just because I like the truth and not lies.....this does not make me an idiot.

Believe it or not I am not full of fury. Annoyance...very definitely...but fury...No. I am as worthy as anyone else on this site and upon this this planet and so is what I say. Perhaps you wish to consider that whatever I
say signifies nothing, because deep down, you can see that I do have a very valid point to make.

Unfortunately, anyone who seems to disagree with the staus quo here is seen as a troll. I don't know if the other people, who have been erased from the site were trolls, or not, but I am most certainly not one. I don't even think that way about people. I see many posts, by so called trolls, that make a lot of sense and posts by regulars that would, in the eyes of some, scream out troll. Seems there is one rule for some people......another rule for others.

How very humane and intellectual to consider someone...or their posts, a Saturday ''chuckle.'' I never laugh at people...or what they write, but then I don't have blinkered vision....or the three wise monkeys, outlook upon life.

[Canticle]

I agree Allbi.... my thoughts....about our responder C....to quote the Bard...

"Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Friday night amusement....now chuckles on Saturday.


Belle, I hate to disappoint you, but I am no idiot, and I am not ''full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.''

I do realise that you are an educated woman, which will also mean that you have intellect. Your usage of the English language is very good and I applaud you for that.

Just because I don't post in the manner some would wish and just because I like the truth and not lies.....this does not make me an idiot.

Believe it or not I am not full of fury. Annoyance...very definitely...but fury...No. I am as worthy as anyone else on this site and upon this this planet and so is what I say. Perhaps you wish to consider that whatever I
say signifies nothing, because deep down, you can see that I do have a very valid point to make.

Unfortunately, anyone who seems to disagree with the staus quo here is seen as a troll. I don't know if the other people, who have been erased from the site were trolls, or not, but I am most certainly not one. I don't even think that way about people. I see many posts, by so called trolls, that make a lot of sense and posts by regulars that would, in the eyes of some, scream out troll. Seems there is one rule for some people......another rule for others.

How very humane and intellectual to consider someone...or their posts, a Saturday ''chuckle.'' I never laugh at people...or what they write, but then I don't have blinkered vision....or the three wise monkeys, outlook upon life.

[Canticle]

Aww I think she is falling in love with me. "She" talks about me so much... My momma used to say about immature boys is that the ones that are mean to ya... really like you.... For someone who isn't a bi woman, you are sure trying to get in my panties and up my craw....


I call you a liar cause I know its true. I made a response to one of your other identities about you having multiple person.. Your response was "Who told you that? It's a lie! Do not say untrue remarks about me".


Well lets just get it all on the table... Here's a rundown as best as I can provide it... You had at least two identities before BrotherJack and this current one you are using Canticle and NotreDame. Then after BrotherJack, you have been Feet4walking and Feetfourwalking.

You are on your 5th head of the Hydra or the 5th name of the many of Legion., However one chooses to see it. You have been banned, only to return multiple times, you can't tell when you are not wanted, your husband didn't want you, therefore the "Divorce" and Adam doesn't want you. And I can't say I blame him. I would have lied and ran to the high hills once I saw how crazy you are. You are a troll and even by people's standards you are a troll. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Internet%20troll)


Yes I posted links to your responses in a myspace forum. To show the other members here how you stalk and twist words just to attack adam wherever he goes.

But I did not attack you in the chat room. I told the room that feetfourwalking came back as notredame after you got banned by the OWNER of the site. I said that you are a troll and that your posts are useless and uninformative. That you contribute nothing into the decorum of a forum. I never said what you quoted I said . Me and other members were talking about how there should be some members that could be moderators. I said if we could be moderators We would have to be Judicious. Which means FAIR and by the standard.


You seem to have a problem with facts, even when they are printed. You have misquoted Kate and now me. As I said in chat you twist words to make yourself a victim, always a victim. Which is true.. You call me a liar, but every time you open a new post, you solidify everything I have said about your trolling ways.


And if you don't have enough ways to show you are a dumb vindictive bitch. Now there is a new example... Your response to my BUMPER STICKER post that was ACCIDENTALLY posted here. If you actually took time to be a civil person instead of a Dumb ass, you would have saw that I posted the link to that post on the actual bumper sticker thread cause I wasn't going to retype it all over again.

So thank you for turning my mistake into your personal assface showing of yourself.

Oh and BTW: You talking to one of your other identities in chat doth not a caring friend make.

''Aww I think she is falling in love with me. "She" talks about me so much... My momma used to say about immature boys is that the ones that are mean to ya... really like you.... For someone who isn't a bi woman, you are sure trying to get in my panties and up my craw....''

I fear that you are suffering from thinking that you are more important to me, than you actually are. I have responded to your posts to me and about me and also commented upon your rudeness in the chat roo, It seems that your rudeness continues in posts. You and some of the other people who were in the chat room a few nights ago, may like to think they know exactly what was said and that they must be right and that I am wrong, but I know what was said to me and I also know that there was no sound reason (and none given), for banning my ''feetfourwalking'' name.

It is a pity that you had to end this paragraph by being crude and vulgar. I think that says a lot about you. I shall remain polite and type this in the Queen's English.

''I call you a liar cause I know its true. I made a response to one of your other identities about you having multiple person.. Your response was "Who told you that? It's a lie! Do not say untrue remarks about me".

No! ...I am nnot a liar. Recently I have been using the names Notredame, one I registered many, many, many moths ago and also feetfourwalking. I have never hidden who I am, just as I have never hidden my sexuality, or where I reside in the world. I don't have multiple personalities, unlike someone I could mention, but I suppose with that person , there has got to be a difference and they are not doing anything wrong. So what you try to quote here...and out of context....reads as nonsense.


''Well lets just get it all on the table... Here's a rundown as best as I can provide it... You had at least two identities before BrotherJack and this current one you are using Canticle and NotreDame. Then after BrotherJack, you have been Feet4walking and Feetfourwalking.''

Perhaps you would like to inform me what my other two identities, before ''BrotherJack'' were....because I have not the foggiest idea. If you cannot name them, there is little point in trying to say that I had any.

Perhaps you should get things into chronological order and get things right. I had registered with the name Notredame, a long time ago, but had rarely used it. I didn't like it much. I registered in the name of BrotherJack, which was a great mistake....it was the character from some film, so poor I cannot remember it's name and I was forever having to explain why I was female with a male name. The same sort of thing could be said about any of the names here. I don't bother asking questions like that, unless I am in conversation with someone and the subject arises.

I had created the name Canticle and was going to drop the name BrotherJack...fully intending to tell anyone I chatted to that Canticle was the same person as BrotherJack. You see...I don't lie. I don't need to! However the name was rather fancy, so I only tried it out a very few times. I stuck to BrotherJack.

BrotherJack was banned a couple of weeks ago, after taking a certain person to task, yet again. This time I was actually sticking up for or supporting the right of the members of this site to be as explicit as they wish in forum threads. Seems one can never win.

I had long ago stopped coming here because of a certain person. I come to chat to people...and there are many people I have talked to...usually on a one to one basis...because that is the type of conversation I prefer. To continue chatting to these people, I had to have a name, so I chose the first thing that came into my head and registered as ''feet4walking''....No, multiple identities.....one name to be used!

That name was banned when I made the mistake of private nessaging someone, to try to explain something. That person did something I found very strange and opened a thread about the message. So much for the confidence of pm. I never reveal what is said to me in pm. I replied on the thread, politely and within half an hout, feet4walking had been banned and all my posts erased. That for not being rude...not flaming anyone...but politely replying to the thread. There was no need for the drama of that thread....absolutely none.

So, I re-registered as feetfourwalking...the same name....but using the word ''four'' instead of ''4''...so it cannot be said that I was trying to hide, or pretend to be someone else. Not my way. So, one name....one.

I had been using both Notredame and feetfourwalking and did not hide who I was, or that I that I now used both names. People in the chat room, knew who I was. I don't remember having ever seen you in the chat room, until the other night and most certainly never remember speaking to you.

I have not posted anything using the name Notredame, for many a moon and I was posting occasionally, using the feetfourwalking name. I was careful how I worded my posts and certainly did not ''flame'' anyone. I agreed with some people, told others what a good post their's had been, and occasionally disagreed, but not to any point of argument. I did nothing to warrant that name being banned...none what so ever...nor with Notredame.

So with those names, unfairly banned, I am using Canticle. I have said who I am. I have nothing to hide. I am not the only one who has had two names. I have been told, by more than one member, in chat that they have two names. I see no wrong in this, so long as one is not hiding who one is.

Young lady, you have nothing to lay upon the table. I suggest you get your facts right. I tell the truth. I deal with reality, not fantasy.


''You are on your 5th head of the Hydra or the 5th name of the many of Legion., However one chooses to see it. You have been banned, only to return multiple times, you can't tell when you are not wanted, your husband didn't want you, therefore the "Divorce" and Adam doesn't want you. And I can't say I blame him. I would have lied and ran to the high hills once I saw how crazy you are. You are a troll and even by people's standards you are a troll. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Internet%20troll)''

You really are an insulting person. Do you enjoy making such insults. No doubt your friends here will see this as find and dandy. I take it that your flaming of the individual, will not lead to you being banned.

I have returned, one name at a time....so that I can continue to chat to people. I was banned unfairly.

''you can't tell when you are not wanted''

This is your personal opinion. Other people here have said quite the opposite to me.

''your husband didn't want you, therefore the "Divorce"''

I see you are now an expert on my personal life. I hate to disappoint you, but it is me who does not want the man I am married to and can't wait to get a decree absolute. Your words here, are absolute rubbish.

''and Adam doesn't want you. And I can't say I blame him.''

Once again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None what so ever. You know the person named, as merely a line of type. I know him in a very different way, and you do not know what you are on about.

''I would have lied and ran to the high hills once I saw how crazy you are.''

Here...you show how little you know. In fact you know nothing. Adam didn't begin to lie when I accidentally found he was visiting here.....and that only because he had built a website and he wanted me to see the blog. Not being able to access it, I googled his site name and this site's address came up in the search. I was grateful to the timed and dated forum posts here, for they informed me of his lies......one cannot be at home posting here, if one is meant to be in detox! Adam has always lied and not only to me. So get your facts straight.

I am not crazy. I am perfectly sane....or do you believe Adam...just because he says that is how things are. I have responsibilities and I have a life. I don'r spend my time drunk and on line all day in various chat rooms. I have many friends who would testify to my sanity and also that I am a decent person.....someone who doesn't lie, can be trusted with a confidence and is a good friend to another, if and when they need one. I was a good friend to
Adam.....and believe me...that was not an easy task.

I am no troll and I really don't need to look up urban dictionaries and sites explaining the meaning of the word. I believe that people on line call anyone they don't like, or who doesn't agree with them, or doesn't say exactly what they would like them to say...a troll. I do not classify people like that.

''Yes I posted links to your responses in a myspace forum. To show the other members here how you stalk and twist words just to attack adam wherever he goes.''

How you must have such a lot of time upon your hands if you feel that you must act as judge and jusry and prosecutor and go and look for my posts on another site. How pathetic and petty that is. I don't stalk Adam. And please tell me how I twist words. I never twist words. I deal in the truth. I don't like to see anyone insulting others, in the way Adam does and telling lies. Unfortunately, he is very goos at twisting words and situations to make himself the victim. I deal in truth.

There is something very dark, about posting links to the profile of someone, on a completely different site. Very dark.

''But I did not attack you in the chat room. I told the room that feetfourwalking came back as notredame after you got banned by the OWNER of the site. I said that you are a troll and that your posts are useless and uninformative. That you contribute nothing into the decorum of a forum. I never said what you quoted I said . Me and other members were talking about how there should be some members that could be moderators. I said if we could be moderators We would have to be Judicious. Which means FAIR and by the standard.''

Yes, you did attack me in the chat room. Yes...banned by the owner of the site....who spent one sentence asking me if I was the person who had emailed him asking for pictures back and was told a most definite 'No'...and a jumbled one or two more sentences telling that the reason he thought I was the ''troll'' was because my posts read like the ''troll's''.........

No conversation and allowing any questions to be asked or information you be given....just a few sentences and then a rude, ''bye,'' as he left the room...and then banning me. It may be his site....but that doesn't mean he should act as judge and jury, without talking to someone first. he can't even be bothered to answer emails.

''I said that you are a troll and that your posts are useless and uninformative. That you contribute nothing into the decorum of a forum. I never said what you quoted I said''

Yes, you called me a troll...more than once! Who are you to say that my posts are usless and uninformative and nothing to the decorum of a forum. Explain why. You haven't gone into great detail there, though I am sure that you would enjoy doing so.

I stand by what I stated about your comments to me. i don't lie. but you are extremely insulting.

''Me and other members were talking about how there should be some members that could be moderators. I said if we could be moderators We would have to be Judicious. Which means FAIR and by the standard.''

I do believe that you began discussing moderators and how you would volunteer to be one ( someone told you to go ahead and write to Drew), after you had enjoyed insulting me. I cannot imagine, by what i have read in your posts to and about me, that you could ever be a fair and judicious moderator....but of course, that is my personal opinion.

''And if you don't have enough ways to show you are a dumb vindictive bitch. Now there is a new example... Your response to my BUMPER STICKER post that was ACCIDENTALLY posted here. If you actually took time to be a civil person instead of a Dumb ass, you would have saw that I posted the link to that post on the actual bumper sticker thread cause I wasn't going to retype it all over again.''

I'm not dumb. I'm not vindictive and I am not a bitch. If there was a link to follow on that post, I do not think I would have bothered to follow it. The bumper stickers and how they were arranged, made it clear to me, what you were trying to say.

I am a civil person and no ''dumb ass.'' I'm an intelligent person, have many interests and I don't post insult after insult as you have done. I really do not think that anything you say or type is accidental.

''You seem to have a problem with facts, even when they are printed. You have misquoted Kate and now me. As I said in chat you twist words to make yourself a victim, always a victim. Which is true.. You call me a liar, but every time you open a new post, you solidify everything I have said about your trolling ways.''

I have no problem with facts. I have said that I deal in the truth and i do not lie. I do not believe that I misquoted you or Kate. I stand by that.

''As I said in chat you twist words to make yourself a victim, always a victim. Which is true..''

A few nights ago, was the first time I remember even seeing you in the chat room and I certainly don't ever remember talking to you. I do not twist words....I do not twist the truth and I do not always make myself out to be the victim. I know someone else who is good at doing that. I have been a victim.....a victim of someone with no scruples or care about who is hurt. I'm no longer a victim, because I am better than that person. I would not lie to someone, when there was no need and then continue to lie and think that just leaving the lied to person, with no idea what had been truth and what had been lies. We are responsible for what we do, and if we hurt someone, it will surely come back to bite us. There is something called personal responsibility....unfortuantely many don't think this matters....as long as they are having fun!!

''Oh and BTW: You talking to one of your other identities in chat doth not a caring friend make.''

How droll. How very amusing. Was this sarcasm? I don't talk to myself in the chat room. I don't have two identities in the room at the same time. I don't double browse. I wouldn't know how to and if I did, I certainly would be a total failure at it. I was talking to a real person. A woman. A bisexual. A member of this site. I won't name her, because I don't work like that.

One thing I will say. I do know someone who does know how to double browse. Someone who is quite capable of doing so and i have seen that person do it.

Your post was just full of more insults, a little crudness and a lot of bull.

[Canticle]

So if Adam isn't bisexual or gay why is he here? Is he just a troll then?

Umm...when has anyone ever said that Adam is not bisexual? I don't think anyone has...certainly not me...I know him!

Adam has been accused of being a troll. I have been accused of being a troll. Almost anyone who says something certain people don't like...gets called a troll.

I don't call anyone by such silly names. Whoever a person is, even if they are posting under many different names, if the point they make is a valid one....then it's worth reading or replying to,.

[Flounder1967]

Belle, I hate to disappoint you, but I am no idiot, and I am not ''full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.''

I do realise that you are an educated woman, which will also mean that you have intellect. Your usage of the English language is very good and I applaud you for that.

Just because I don't post in the manner some would wish and just because I like the truth and not lies.....this does not make me an idiot.

Believe it or not I am not full of fury. Annoyance...very definitely...but fury...No. I am as worthy as anyone else on this site and upon this this planet and so is what I say. Perhaps you wish to consider that whatever I
say signifies nothing, because deep down, you can see that I do have a very valid point to make.

Unfortunately, anyone who seems to disagree with the staus quo here is seen as a troll. I don't know if the other people, who have been erased from the site were trolls, or not, but I am most certainly not one. I don't even think that way about people. I see many posts, by so called trolls, that make a lot of sense and posts by regulars that would, in the eyes of some, scream out troll. Seems there is one rule for some people......another rule for others.

How very humane and intellectual to consider someone...or their posts, a Saturday ''chuckle.'' I never laugh at people...or what they write, but then I don't have blinkered vision....or the three wise monkeys, outlook upon life.

Canticle your not an an idiot.. your a babbling idiot

[Flounder1967]

canticle babble babble I bet you will have to respond with sonething and not let this rest in peace.

[Canticle]

Canticle your not an an idiot.. your a babbling idiot

Interesting isn't it? When one says things that some people do not like, one is called a troll. When one answers an insulting post, politely, using English which is easily understood, one is called an idiot.

I am no idiot! I am an intelligent woman who can express herself quite well. Perhaps you'd prefer it, if I used Americanisms. Well, I can't...I'm not American...I'm English!!!

[Canticle]

You're also in my cross-hairs. AGAIN. Wipe the piss from your leg and go make some tea, you fucking miserable hag.

Anyone else want some?

Sighs......no comment, Azrael!

[Doggiestyle]

:eek: WHAT, NO COMMENT :eek: Wow Brother Jack you must be slipping on us girl. I cannot believe you let Azrael say such a thing, and you not responding with at least a half a page of "no comment".

I must admit that I have seen and read some very strange things here!?!?!?

Your friend, :doggie: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. :bipride:

I feel certain that you could do better. Awwwww I guess we all slip up ever now and then, thats OK!