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JessyRee
Aug 15, 2009, 5:14 PM
So will anyone be participating in their local National Bi pride day events sept 23rd?I would love to go to the nearest parade but have no Idea how to find them.I know they exist but where do I look to find out the times and place of the nearest parade.Anyone with advice or who is thinking about participating let me know...Lots of love for the guys and girls..:flag4:

M. Wolfe
Aug 15, 2009, 5:23 PM
There's a pride day? Surely that's a bit frivolous.

Bi_Druid
Aug 15, 2009, 5:29 PM
You say national, is that as in an American Bi Pride day, or is it an Inter-national one, just I don't believe I've ever heard of one over this side of the pond. We just tend to make sure we make as big an impact as we can at the various LGBT Pride days.

Although I could well be wrong and have been missing out on something, someone please tell me I'm wrong.

JessyRee
Aug 15, 2009, 6:33 PM
I am strictly speaking of the National Bi pride day in the US.I am quite certain it takes place on sept 23.I was looking for bi pride jewelry when I came across a website that advertised it.Apparently its like gay pride but for us Bi's.I imagine only larger city's will hold such parades.

BiphobiaFighter
Aug 15, 2009, 6:55 PM
Celebrate Bisexuality Day is celebrated around the world on September 23rd, not just in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrate_Bisexuality_Day

There was going to be a Biversity festival around Australia from September 19th to 26th, but it was postponed until next year. http://www.biversity.org.au/

M. Wolfe
Aug 15, 2009, 6:56 PM
I am strictly speaking of the National Bi pride day in the US.I am quite certain it takes place on sept 23.I was looking for bi pride jewelry when I came across a website that advertised it.Apparently its like gay pride but for us Bi's.I imagine only larger city's will hold such parades.

Surely it's a bit pointless with us bi people. I'm part Irish and part German, and I was born in NZ. Even though that comes into play with my identity, there are no flags or parades for it - maybe if I lived in a place with lots of other Irish Krauts so that even as a minority we were a concentrated minority and could gather as such in our township. Bi people are scattered evenly everywhere and to get the numbers up they have to migrate from far and wide - it just seems kinda like a lot of effort just to say "We exist." The "there is no bi community" discussion has come up before and it's a problematic situation at best.

Bi_Druid
Aug 15, 2009, 7:17 PM
Surely it's a bit pointless with us bi people.
We actually seem to have quite a good, even if a little scattered, bi community here in Britain. Especially thanks to Bi Community News, but also many local bi groups. Many of these groups each hold their own local Bi-fests, which attract bis and bi friendlys from miles around.
We also have a yearly Bi-con which attracts 100s.
And we all join in with the Pride Parades and make sure we're noticed.

I realise it can be a bit like herding cats at times, but it can and (even if only on smaller localised levels) has been done.

Bi_Druid
Aug 15, 2009, 7:19 PM
We also DO have a bi-flag:flag4:

OK, it may be on the minimalistic side, but it's ours.

M. Wolfe
Aug 15, 2009, 7:42 PM
We maybe it's just that I have no real desire to show off to people I don't know that I'm not a fussy lover. I think that's what I don't get - the pride bit. Like the reason I'm on this site is to sort or learn what bisexuality is to other people because when I joined I was fairly clueless and confused about these feelings. But I'm not proud, I'm not ashamed but I'm not proud. How can I be when it's something I have no choice or control over what so ever - this is not my work, it just is.

And the flag looks gayer than the gay/LGBT flag. Pink purple and blue, I wouldn't wear those colours in a million years.

Outside of this online community here, the only time my orientation is important is at that stage when a new friend is getting to know me, otherwise I don't see it should really be important, let alone walking in a parade waving flags.

softfruit
Aug 16, 2009, 8:15 AM
UK International Celebrate Bisexuality Day events are on september23.bi.org (http://september23.bi.org) - two cities have something going on this year so far. :bipride:

Bi_Druid
Aug 16, 2009, 1:02 PM
Cool, thankyou Softfruit for proving me wrong.

Will have to raise this with my local bi group (Brighton Bothways) and see if we can arrange something here too.:bigrin:

DiamondDog
Aug 16, 2009, 3:00 PM
We maybe it's just that I have no real desire to show off to people I don't know that I'm not a fussy lover. I think that's what I don't get - the pride bit. Like the reason I'm on this site is to sort or learn what bisexuality is to other people because when I joined I was fairly clueless and confused about these feelings. But I'm not proud, I'm not ashamed but I'm not proud. How can I be when it's something I have no choice or control over what so ever - this is not my work, it just is.

And the flag looks gayer than the gay/LGBT flag. Pink purple and blue, I wouldn't wear those colours in a million years.

Outside of this online community here, the only time my orientation is important is at that stage when a new friend is getting to know me, otherwise I don't see it should really be important, let alone walking in a parade waving flags.

I agree with you about what you wrote about GLBT/bisexual pride, pride events, the bisexual flag, and the forced politics associated with all of this.

I also don't see the point of gay/GLBT/bisexual pride or pride events.

There are a lot of bisexual and even gay men who feel that pride events are rather pointless, an embarrassment to GLBT people, that pride is a ghettoization of GLBT people, pride is all about consumerism on a massive scale, and it's not revolutionary and it does not actually do anything.

Pride is pointless. It's not shocking, does not actually accomplish anything, and has not actually done anything for decades and it becoming more and more pointless as the years pass. Less people are actually going to pride events than they have in years and decades past.

As for what I wrote about it being consumerism on a massive scale this is true since who do you think pays for pride events?

Look at all of the massive corporate sponsorship based on Pride and how local and national businesses and chains go crazy for Pride! Whoever sells the beer at pride in NYC and in other major cities that allow drinking at pride makes tons of cash that is for sure.

Then there's all of the tourism based on Pride too.

It's a big excuse for people to party and get drunk and make fools of themselves publically once a year.

Have you ever been to a Pride parade or event? That's basically what it is.

It's like Mardi Gras in New Orleans for GLBT people. Don't forget Southern Decadence which was once an event for queer men only but now everyone goes to it.

I'm not saying that us faggots, dykes, trannies, queers, or switch hitters and fence sitters should blame all of our problems on heterosexuals as far too many of us do this when people can solve their own problems without blaming heterosexuals for everything that's wrong with them.

GLBT people in North America, Australia/NZ, and most of Western society have it very easy compared to GLBT people other countries, cultures, and societies.

It's not like in the middle east, Africa, or in Jamaica where you can be killed by your own government or imprisoned for being GLBT. Perhaps those places are where pride events are actually needed?

Of course a lot of those countries, societies, and actual cultures and communities of people view being gay/GLBT as simply an American or Western thing.

Heterosexuals who are the majority of people do not go around dressed in drag or even have pride parades or pride days so why should we?

Pride events are just more fodder for the Us vs. Them mentality and heterophobia that lots of GLBT people seem to have, and how lots of GLBT people who are into pride seem to love playing the victim role.

Pride actually drives away potential heterosexual allies who could possibly be for queer/human rights, and GLBT rights but then they see pride and want nothing to do with us.

I do not deserve a gay/GLBT/bisexual pride event or need to celebrate my sexuality with a consumer based Pride event anymore than I somehow need these things for being ambidextrous, having the cock and body for all types of porn, or for having dark hair and eyes.

No I'm not ashamed of my sexuality and I'm out but just in other ways besides going to pride events and flying the silly bisexual flag, the GLBT/gay rainbow flag, or any of the other flags that are around these days.

Even straight people mainly see Pride events as a big circus and pride events do now always show GLBT people in a positive light to outsiders or other GLBT people.

Woe to the gay/bisexual/dyke/queer/trans people who criticize pride since the Stalinist gay/GLBT party of conformity along with GLAAD and the HRC will flip out at them and they will be branded a "bad" person for not agreeing with conformist political groups or for seeing the point of Pride.

I'm not saying that people should be closeted, be uptight about their sexuality, or stay in the closet but there are better ways to come out and be proud of who you are that don't involve pride parades or silly flags like the Bisexual flag or the tacky GLBT rainbow flag.

I've always felt that an identity solely based on one's own sexuality is a bit
depressing.

The forced politics associated with Pride are rather sad too and how nowadays being GLBT is all a marketing niche.

Just look at the LOGO channel and the ads on that TV station, or the brands of beer, liquor, bottled water, and soda that get sold at GLBT/gay bars and clubs and ones that do not.

A lot of GLBT/gay bars and dance clubs are closing down since there is not really a point to them anymore and more people are out and meeting in ways that do not involve bars or dance clubs.

There's more to a person than their sexuality and professional GLBT people or people who view their sexuality as a personal identity and not just an aspect of their life or people such as Dan Savage, writers for those silly magazines like Advocate and Out magazine bore me.

I'm glad that GLBT people are finally starting to question the concepts of a GLBT or queer community and culture. There are no such things as a GLBT/gay/queer community or culture and there never have been.

Being queer/GLBT is not some actual community or culture the way that being black, white, Asian, Indian, or Latino is.

There are a lot of people (myself included) who grew up viewing what is called a gay/GLBT/queer community and culture but it's really just consumerism and we didn't really identify with the pride events, pride based jewlery, GLBT rainbow flags, the bisexual flag, the clothing, the bars/clubs, dressing in femme drag, or the pointless camp humour and thought that something was wrong since we did not relate to any of this vapid, empty, and silly pointless stuff at all.

M. Wolfe
Aug 16, 2009, 5:26 PM
I agreed with everything you said but I'll say this.
GLBT people in North America, Australia/NZ, and most of Western society have it very easy compared to GLBT people other countries, cultures, and societies.
Some are great with it, many European cultures are pretty good with it, like Germany and that lot.



I've always felt that an identity solely based on one's own sexuality is a bit depressing.
To true.