Chaz (Chastity) Bono Is Transitioning!

[cand86]

Saw it in the news (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivbyADM3z60OqCt8RH5gjRzeyqHgD98OOU8O0). I don't know; it's kind of crazy- he'll be the first trans celebrity (aside from, perhaps, Alexis Arquette) to transition in the public eye . . . that's a big deal!

I can already tell that the media and society's reaction is going to be just as exciting and hurtful to observe as Isis being on ANTM or Thomas Beattie being on Oprah.

So, yeah: discuss.

(On a side note, why have all my recent topics lately been about transsexuality, transgenderism, and gender in general? Hmmm.)

[littlerayofsunshine]

Even her dad's widow is supportive. I am happy for her. I can't say I am surprised and I am sure it will all be welcomed with everyone who loves her..


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lol.. thank you for celebrating Chaz.....

[DiamondDog]

Heh I'm sure that some stone butch dykes will be very angry about this, as they claim that they're a rare breed these days and that most butch lesbians are taking hormones or getting surgery to become Transsexuals and that they are no longer dykes and the dykes aren't attracted to men or the male gender at all, even if lots of stone butch dykes do try to imitate masculinity, maleness, and the male gender and are bad at it. :rolleyes:

I can't say that I'm very surprised though about Chastity Bono.

[rissababynta]

I've always gotten a chuckle out of the fact that she was named Chastity.

Seriously though, good for her.

[MarieDelta]

Best of wishes to him- lord knows its a daily struggle, trying to defend your needs to people that dont(or barely) understand. I can only immagine what it would be like to be a trans-celebrity(see Jennifer Boylan, Thomas Beatie, Mike Penner (who transitioned back this past year), and a host of others. )

(FYI: Since He is transitioning to male, the correct pronoun is masuculine (i.e. His, he, him) not femminine, that is AP standard.)

As far as the lesbian community, and the "butch" shortage, well he IDs as male, and they dont like men, so I suppose they'll just have to deal. (Not like MWMF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Trans) ever excluded transmen anyways.)

[Georgie_Girl]

That's so cool :)

[chick_a_dee]

I've always wondered this about Chastity and her parents Sonny & Cher. Mom and Dad have dark hair, she is a blond. Greg Allman is blond.... Chastity has no resemblance to her mom and dad. Just a random thought.

[littlerayofsunshine]

I've always wondered this about Chastity and her parents Sonny & Cher. Mom and Dad have dark hair, she is a blond. Greg Allman is blond.... Chastity has no resemblance to her mom and dad. Just a random thought.

Well thought number one, who knows what lifestyle they lived when they were married, but outside of that.... another explanation could be.......

Cause sometimes the grandparents and ancestor traits are present. I have brownish blackish hair with brown eyes, my ex has black hair with blue eyes, we have a son with dishwater blond/very light brown hair and hazel green eyes we also share a daughter that has hair like mine but blue/gray eyes. Genetics is a Bingo game with N32's here and B15's there and many other combinations also.

[Fire Lotus]

I've always wondered this about Chastity and her parents Sonny & Cher. Mom and Dad have dark hair, she is a blond. Greg Allman is blond.... Chastity has no resemblance to her mom and dad. Just a random thought.

Are you kidding? Chaz looks so like both his parents. Has Cher's cheek bones, Sonny's eyes. As for being blonde, Cher's mother & sister are blondes.

AS for the transitioning, good on him for being his true self and having the courage for going through it so publicly!

[PolyLoveTriad]

They did this thing on the news, said not to call her him until she starts taking the hormones, then start calling her a him.

Anyway on a side note... I started thinking about this. She is a lesbian (in transition yes) her girlfriend is a LESBIAN who obviously likes being a lesbian, if she turns into a guy, wouldnt it blow for her girlfriend, the one who thought she was going to be with a lesbian? I know love goes further than the flesh, but this somehow got into my head and I know if I was her girlfriend, Id be hurt for one, but then Id be really pissed off lol

[rissababynta]

They did this thing on the news, said not to call her him until she starts taking the hormones, then start calling her a him.

Anyway on a side note... I started thinking about this. She is a lesbian (in transition yes) her girlfriend is a LESBIAN who obviously likes being a lesbian, if she turns into a guy, wouldnt it blow for her girlfriend, the one who thought she was going to be with a lesbian? I know love goes further than the flesh, but this somehow got into my head and I know if I was her girlfriend, Id be hurt for one, but then Id be really pissed off lol

Uh yeah, it would be like the same thing as a woman going to her husband "Hey, I want to be a man"...that doesn't always go over very well...

[transcendMental]

They did this thing on the news, said not to call her him until she starts taking the hormones, then start calling her a him.

Anyway on a side note... I started thinking about this. She is a lesbian (in transition yes) her girlfriend is a LESBIAN who obviously likes being a lesbian, if she turns into a guy, wouldnt it blow for her girlfriend, the one who thought she was going to be with a lesbian? I know love goes further than the flesh, but this somehow got into my head and I know if I was her girlfriend, Id be hurt for one, but then Id be really pissed off lol

Dude. There are all kinds of people and relationships out there. No, I'm sure the gf was not thrilled about this change. Neither is my wife thrilled about mine. But if a person loves you, and cares about you more than about your physical shell, then with a bit of education, they realize that you need to transition in order to remain sane and healthy. Lots of people are in relationships where they suddenly find that their preferred mode of sex is no longer possible. If the relationship is based on love rather than sex, people can be impressively flexible.

I didn't see the "thing" they did on the news. If Chaz has requested to be called "she" until he starts taking hormones, then that request should be honored (and if I hear that, I'll honor it). But if some news outlet has decided this, then I find it outrageous, since inside Chaz has actually been "he" all his life. The addition of hormones does not change his gender from female to male; assuming he is a "typical" transsexual, he is taking hormones because he is male, and wants to adjust his brain chemistry to reflect his brain structure, so he doesn't feel like crawling out of his skin all the time.

Oh, and she isn't a lesbian. He's straight. ;)

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[MarieDelta]

They did this thing on the news, said not to call her him until she starts taking the hormones, then start calling her a him.

Anyway on a side note... I started thinking about this. She is a lesbian (in transition yes) her girlfriend is a LESBIAN who obviously likes being a lesbian, if she turns into a guy, wouldnt it blow for her girlfriend, the one who thought she was going to be with a lesbian? I know love goes further than the flesh, but this somehow got into my head and I know if I was her girlfriend, Id be hurt for one, but then Id be really pissed off lol

It depends on the relationship. Not all relationships are built along those lines.

However about 50% of long term relationships fail when one of the partners enters into transition, for precisely some of those reasons.

It's hard to deal with, for everyone, FWIW.

[boca.openminded]

it only hit the news wire this week but shes been taking hormones for over a year now AND before that she spent months at a psychiatrist for evaluation.

Good for her... If she truly believes her soul is in the wrong body then she should have it done. Obviously, she thought something was not matching up when she became a lesbian. No, I am not saying every lesbian is really a man trapped in a womens body.. Hard to put whats in my mind online so I hope you understand what I am trying to say.. if not dont yell at me... lol

[GreenEyedLady(GEL)]

I think the couple know what they want in their relationship. I found that living with someone and being in love, that you know just about everything about that other person. Now I know that there are lots of cases where the other spouse didn't know right away , BUT i'm talking about a couple infactuated about one another knows everything. I guess the gf probably enjoys cock somewhat...I mean I'm sure Chaz has been packing heat all along lol So...With encouragement from the other half, I'm not surprised she's made the decision. And good for her/him !

[MarieDelta]

FWIW- Transition isnt a once done type thing. You dont just go into the Dr's office and have done. He will have plenty of time to decide whether this is for him.

Plus- MOST FtM's dont have "bottom" surgery as it is complicated and not very effective. So SRS for FtM's comes down to a double mastectomy, and a hysterectomy.

Oh BTW Here's a great article from Jammison Green (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/12/chastity.bono/index.html)(another FTM, and an author.)

[cand86]

I think you need to do some research before another post on transsexuality- try Googling words like "gender dysphoria". That will sufficiently answer the question of "Why does someone need to physically change anything about their body to become the other gender?".

As for "FtM's will forever have female genitals", well, I imagine that everybody who says that has never seen FtM genitalia. Testosterone transforms them, and if someone doesn't want to call it male genitalia, that's okay . . . but a female vagina, it is not. It's transmale genitalia- unique and incredibly sexy (to me, at least).

[cand86]

I did google images of FTM genitalia and they are surgically altered vaginas or even vaginas that are not surgically or cosmetically altered with hormones and they are not penises.

If they are not penises, then why do you feel that a transwoman's vagina is a vagina?


As for the idea that a person who is Trans somehow needs any surgery at all this is not true as most Trans people do not have any surgery since it is expensive and they can't afford it.

Do you have any research on this? I'm just asking, because I haven't looked up any evidence to the contrary. All my anecdotal evidence suggests that this is probably true for bottom surgery for transmen, but the complete opposite for transwomen (with the majority getting bottom surgery).

Also, just because somebody does not have the means to do undergo surgery does not mean that they do not have a need for it. I'm not saying that all do- I know of transpeople who are completely happy with their bodies once they can pass as the gender with which they identify- but to say that the need for SRS felt by many transpeople is not true seems incredibly dismissive of their feelings about their bodies.


Just look at Trans people throughout history. Many of them did live as the opposite gender and they certainly did not have any surgery at all.

Again, how are we to know how happy they were? Who's to say they weren't miserable in their bodies, experiencing extreme body dysphoria? And that, of course, is discounting all the trans people who committed suicide because of that, their names to never make it to Transpeople In History 101.

In the end, if you don't have the technology, you make do. We now have the technology.


Gay men are simply not attracted to a man without a penis and that this is not discriminatory or bad or evil of those gay men -- it is simply a fact.

I'm pretty sure I never said that they were.