Why Lesbians Hate Bisexuals

[red_rose129]

http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/community/why-do-lesbians-hate-bisexuals/

this is NOT my article. In coming out to myself, I decided to do a lot of research about the glbt community. I ran across this article..which i found very interesting. But after reading some of the posts, I felt the need to put my two cents in. these are my own personal feelings. Please understand I do not dislike any group of people...I just wanted to state my peace. here are two of the posts I wrote in response to the post I read: (keep in mind this was a lesbian article and this is in response to the lesbians who commented on the article):


I would like to know who made lesbians scholars on sexuality! I would LOVE to read their thesis on lesbianism!! IF they had one, and actually believed it, they would find it is very similar to bisexuals and heterosexuals. You see, the idea is to be who you are. A lesbian saying a bisexual doesn’t “technically exsist” is the same as a het saying lesbianism doesn’t exist… When I started doing my research concerning the glBt community, I only wanted to involve myself with a community who not only allowed you to be who you are, a community who fights for the rights of people (not just lesbians), a community who accepts you for who you are, a community who is compassionate and loving, but also a community who understands how it feels to be attracted to and love beautiful women. a community where it’s ok to be able to say how much you admire women and their beauty, their intelligence, their strength, their love, their style, their hair, their bodys,
their struggles, and their determination to be greater than the role society has put us in. Yet, in my research, i’ve only found a divided community who spews just as much hatred as the people they are fighting against! Lesbians become outraged when someone [christians for example] tells them they can’t naturally be a lesbian [or they are not born gay]…yet they turn around and tell bi’s they can’t be bisexual. very hypocritical! To discriminate and say, I’ll have nothing to do with those “bis”, is the same as a het saying i’ll have nothing to do with “the gays” or a racist saying i’ll have nothing to do with those (insert race here). This type of thinking breeds ignorance. Just as it is ignorant for a heterosexual to speak on homosexuals’ behalf, being they have true knowledge of being homosexual, it is ignorant for homosexuals to speak “truths” on bisexuals.



there is a lot of ignorance within the lesbian community concerning bisexuals, I agree with previous posts there are different types of bisexuals but, in my opinion, a true bisexual is the the epitome of the lgbt movement. the whole point of the movement is to not be defined by any group of people, to be who you are, and live love. bisexuals are not forced into categorization! we love because we love a persons soul. to know it’s ok to love a woman. its ok to love a man. its ok to be who you are. to not be bound and restricted by “titles” . We have the right as women [humans] to love whoever we want. all this talk in the lesbian community about cheating bisexuals…. go and read your own blogs!!!…i do and let me tell ya, there's a lot of cheating going on in the les community. the fact is their’s cheating in EVERY type of relationship! it’s not exclusionary to one group. there are also long term relationships in these groups as well. to ASSume bisexuals' main objective in life is to trick, use, and abuse lesbians is ludicrous!! lesbians who think like this need to get over themselves! notice i’m not using absolutes….that’s because i know not all lesbians feel this way. It’s completely hilarious to me to see a community (glbt) who fight for the same freakin causes be sooo divided and discriminatory!!! lol!! oh…if you use a strap on your not a real lesbian…why not get the real thing….. oh…if you still have your genital parts…your not a real transexual…..oh if you like men and women…ur just a greedy slut… oh..ur a femm….ewww ur a butch..ur not a lesbian..u just wanna be a man…. this type of thinking by anyone is disgusting and it makes me sick. people, mind ur own business and take care of urselves. the true fight, in my opinion, should be:
THE RIGHT TO LIVE YOUR LIFE AS YOU SEE FIT WITHOUT BEING JUDGED BY PRICKS WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH THEIR TIME THAN JUDGE & CATEGORIZE OTHER PEOPLE! AFTER ALL…IT IS UR EFFIN LIFE!!!!!!!!

red rose

[vittoria]

You.

Go.

Gurl.

:cool:

[12voltman59]

I could not agree more Red Rose--but there is a strong antipathy in many cases between gay males and lesbians as well----it is sad but true---I feel like Rodney King must have when he said "Why Can't We all Just Get along??"

[red_rose129]

I could not agree more Red Rose--but there is a strong antipathy in many cases between gay males and lesbians as well----it is sad but true---I feel like Rodney King must have when he said "Why Can't We all Just Get along??"

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

[totchune]

Very well said red rose!!

Unfortunately, most groups tend to define themselves and their boundaries (in beliefs, definitions and actions) through exclusion, not inclusion.

There are always a thousand excuses to be given for some people to judge and exclude others, because many define their identity in terms of separation and conflict, not in terms of affinity and unity. Some people fear that they will loose their identity by being inclusive.

It can only mean that their identity is very small and fragile.

The same goes with racism...one would think people who have suffered greatly (persecutions, genocides) would have compassion, sympathy, a sense of affinity for others who also suffered or are suffering. But it does not seem to work this way. Victims often compete for recognition and refuse to acknowledge the validity or even existence of suffering among other victims of racial hatred, genocide, etc...

I have heard African Americans dismiss the historical suffering of Native Americans...I have heard Jews dismiss the historical suffering of African Americans...I have heard Armenians (one million massacred by the Turks) dismiss the historical suffering of the Jews...etc etc etc...

When will we learn?

[totchune]

Where so many people are driven (by fear) to box themselves and their lives in rigid definitions, bisexuals are the ultimate "sexual subversives", joyfully kicking these barriers out of the way and threatening the status quo.

We are taught that everything has to be this way or that way, in every area of our lives...that it can't be both.

If we look carefully, it is always both (yin-yang) in varying degrees, throughout nature (yang contains yin and yin contains yang, etc etc).

People who hang on to bullshit beliefs and perceptions fight tooth and nail to protect and promote these beliefs. Others who have a feel for the truth know it can't be overcome...so they have no fear. They can indeed live and let live.

So said Lao Tzu :)

[badkitty87]

I could not agree more Red Rose--but there is a strong antipathy in many cases between gay males and lesbians as well----it is sad but true---I feel like Rodney King must have when he said "Why Can't We all Just Get along??"


or as an avid bisexual would say " Why Can't We All Just Get It On?"


:tong:

[IanBorthwick]

Cheryl is a queer health researcher as well as a zine writer. “I can tell you that on many mental health measures - depression, anxiety, self-harm, suicidality – research shows that bisexual people tend to report higher rates than both straight and gay people,” she says.

Now I want to point something out: On You Tube and even here, people say they don't believe we are oppressed that much if at all. This is absolutely not true unless you are living an insulated life. That quote sums up the reality, as well as how *I* have felt squeezed between the rocks my whole life! 3 suicide attempts before I was 17 because of how both sides kicked me back and forth in their dissatisfaction with me.

Mark my words, that as we get more into the 21st century things are gonna get way worse before they get better. Many of my gay friends feared such and told ME that...now I have to agree.

[Hephaestion]

Not all 'homosexual activists' (I cannot think of what else to call them) are as silly.

At work it is openly known that man X is married to man Y, as might be woman Q to woman S. Affairs and other polyamories are overt. Some years ago, one woman was on the TV telling how she was 'married' to twin men. Those of us who are bisexual are equally accepted as are the rest, including the married and single heterosexuals. Where it matters, socially we all get on with great affection all around.

Perhaps society's relatively leniant stance on homosexuality has robbed the 'activists' of purpose and so they are busy working up a froth over nothing "No news today. All in the world is hunky-dory' doesn't sell nor does it employ. A bit like some terrorists who cannot accept that their strife is effecively over and so they turn in on even their comarades to re-create a familiar environment of e.g. oppression, hate, etc.

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[allbimyself]

One thing I've often wondered is how much homosexuals feel the presence of bisexuals threatens them politically. Let me explain:

One of the tenants of gay bashers is that being homosexual is a choice. Obvious bunk, but since bisexuals CAN choose which gender to be with, we lend credibility to that argument by our mere existence. Hence the denial.

Rather than argue that no one chooses their sexuality, str8, gay or bi, it is less confusing to them to just say bisexuality isn't real (for a multitude of made up reasons).

[Georgie_Girl]

I'm going to send this to some of my more reluctant [to accept bisexuals] lesbian friends. :) Thanks for posting it! :bipride:

[jamieknyc]

I think it was Marjorie Garber who said that gays and lesbians who have made a whole way of life out of identity politics find it very threatening that there are people who do same-sex activity but can also enjoy heterosexual sex, because it threatnes their whole system of identity.

[Lonewolf76]

Not all 'homosexual activists' (I cannot think of what else to call them) are as silly.

At work it is openly known that man X is married to man Y, as might be woman Q to woman S. Affairs and other polyamories are overt. Some years ago, one woman was on the TV telling how she was 'married' to twin men. Those of us who are bisexual are equally accepted as are the rest, including the married and single heterosexuals. Where it matters, socially we all get on with great affection all around.

Perhaps society's relatively leniant stance on homosexuality has robbed the 'activists' of purpose and so they are busy working up a froth over nothing "No news today. All in the world is hunky-dory' doesn't sell nor does it employ. A bit like some terrorists who cannot accept that their strife is effecively over and so they turn in on even their comarades to re-create a familiar environment of e.g. oppression, hate, etc.



Wow! Unless I'm missing a Hidden point here (and please correct me if I am) you are saying - "Those of us who are bisexual are equally accepted as are the rest, including the married and single heterosexuals. Where it matters, socially we all get on with great affection all around."

I don't know what world you are living in - but sadly - it sure isn't mine. Bisexuals are NOT accepted on ANY level and where it matters - socially - we are the downcast and rejected freaks who don't really exist - I'm not saying that because there is "No News" to amke up - I'm saying that because that IS THE NEWS. I wish whole heartedly that there were no news to report!! LW

[jamieknyc]

Bisexuals are NOT accepted on ANY level and where it matters - socially - we are the downcast and rejected freaks who don't really exist LW

I don't think bis are really so important in the big picture that the rest of the world is worrying about whether you are the downcast of the world, or even whether you exist. As Golda Meir said, don't be humble, you're not so great.

[Lonewolf76]

I don't think bis are really so important in the big picture that the rest of the world is worrying about whether you are the downcast of the world, or even whether you exist. As Golda Meir said, don't be humble, you're not so great.

So, we just roll over, let them all walk over us and piss up the wall like a wounded puppy - right??? May work for you - doesn't work for me - It's THAT kind of "I'm an osterich - so I'll stick my head in the sand" kind of thnking that will keep the current discriminations going for the next hundred years. Sorry - Couldn't disagree with you more! LW

[rissababynta]

So, we just roll over, let them all walk over us and piss up the wall like a wounded puppy - right??? May work for you - doesn't work for me - It's THAT kind of "I'm an osterich - so I'll stick my head in the sand" kind of thnking that will keep the current discriminations going for the next hundred years. Sorry - Couldn't disagree with you more! LW

I think I have to agree. I've heard many people hear many people say that we shouldn't care what others think and just ignore them...but I feel that this is how you get walked on...which doesn't work for me here lol.

[jamieknyc]

So, we just roll over, let them all walk over us and piss up the wall like a wounded puppy - right??? May work for you - doesn't work for me - It's THAT kind of "I'm an osterich - so I'll stick my head in the sand" kind of thnking that will keep the current discriminations going for the next hundred years. Sorry - Couldn't disagree with you more! LW

I doubt that you really get pissed on too much. Just because some militant gay-and-lesbian types exclude you doesn't make you into the next Darfur. Let that kind have their own little in-crowdy scene and just ignore them.

[Lonewolf76]

I doubt that you really get pissed on too much. Just because some militant gay-and-lesbian types exclude you doesn't make you into the next Darfur. Let that kind have their own little in-crowdy scene and just ignore them.

I'll respectfully agree to disagree. You have your perspective and I have mine. Change begins with one person. Ignorance can also be perpetuated by one person. I choose change. My choice, you have yours. All the best - Peace. LW

[jamieknyc]

I'll respectfully agree to disagree. You have your perspective and I have mine. Change begins with one person. Ignorance can also be perpetuated by one person. I choose change. My choice, you have yours. All the best - Peace. LW

Yes but at the same time, you are allowing a small minority of militant lesbian and gay militants define your identity for you, to your own disadvantage, with themselves occupying the 'center' and you as a marginalized group. I say the lesbian and gay types because face it, the heterosexual world out here doesn't care about these issues.

[MarieDelta]

Jumps in with mouth open...

Yes Bi's arent part of the GL community, especially now that they(the g-l portions) have rights that are almost on par with "Straights." In my experience they only want those who fit into their paradigm to show up. The "Straight Acting" gay and lesbians get rights, the rest of us end up hanging out in the cold.

Meh.

Let them, they've always been exclusionary. Witness the exclusion of transwomen (not transmen) from Michigan Womens Music Festival.

So what am I saying here? We need to first form a community, then legislate activate and get our own stuff going. They dont want us? Fine, we dont need them to have fun! We can form a more inclusive community on our own, one in which its ok to be us.

As his majesty, the queen, sang "Grow some funk of your own , amigo.."

FWIW, if anyone knows how to have fun, its bi people. :bigrin::bibounce::bigrin:

~M

[Lonewolf76]

Yes but at the same time, you are allowing a small minority of militant lesbian and gay militants define your identity for you, to your own disadvantage, with themselves occupying the 'center' and you as a marginalized group. I say the lesbian and gay types because face it, the heterosexual world out here doesn't care about these issues.

First of all - you don't know me. Secondly, I and only I define my own identity. And third, How is speaking out and speaking up to our own disadvantage?? I understand that you think our "plight" for lack of a better word is no Darfur - I agree on the scale of things - of course it isn't. But only by speaking up and speaking out do you intiate change. I admit I don't know you either - but you sound like someone who will remain quiet and dignified and let everyone else make the changes for you. Which is fine if that's your take on life and your approach, I totally respect that and support your right to do so. respect my perspective as well. You don't have to agree with me.

[Lonewolf76]

Jumps in with mouth open...

Yes Bi's arent part of the GL community, especially now that they(the g-l portions) have rights that are almost on par with "Straights." In my experience they only want those who fit into their paradigm to show up. The "Straight Acting" gay and lesbians get rights, the rest of us end up hanging out in the cold.

Meh.

Let them, they've always been exclusionary. Witness the exclusion of transwomen (not transmen) from Michigan Womens Music Festival.

So what am I saying here? We need to first form a community, then legislate activate and get our own stuff going. They dont want us? Fine, we dont need them to have fun! We can form a more inclusive community on our own, one in which its ok to be us.

As his majesty, the queen, sang "Grow some funk of your own , amigo.."

FWIW, if anyone knows how to have fun, its bi people. :bigrin::bibounce::bigrin:

~M

Watch out Marie!! You COULD be accused of being militant!! LOL - I couldn't agree more. The key word is ACTIVATE - not sit quietly because in the big picture we're nothing. We're nothing because we REMAIN SILENT. Cudos to you!!! LW

[jamieknyc]

First of all - you don't know me. Secondly, I and only I define my own identity. And third, How is speaking out and speaking up to our own disadvantage?? I understand that you think our "plight" for lack of a better word is no Darfur - I agree on the scale of things - of course it isn't. But only by speaking up and speaking out do you intiate change. I admit I don't know you either - but you sound like someone who will remain quiet and dignified and let everyone else make the changes for you. Which is fine if that's your take on life and your approach, I totally respect that and support your right to do so. respect my perspective as well. You don't have to agree with me.

The original title of this thread was "why lesbians hate bisexuals,' and the answer was why do we need to care what GL types think? Let them stay in their little playpen where they exclude anyone who isn't exactly like themselves and quit actiing like the kid who has his nose pressed up against the glass of the window.

[JohniBi]

:eek:But all my best friends in high school were lesbians!

[Lonewolf76]

The original title of this thread was "why lesbians hate bisexuals,' and the answer was why do we need to care what GL types think? Let them stay in their little playpen where they exclude anyone who isn't exactly like themselves and quit actiing like the kid who has his nose pressed up against the glass of the window.

Whatever.....

[Lynne_in_UK]

A few people commented saying a few things like:

""The original title of this thread was "why lesbians hate bisexuals,' and the answer was why do we need to care what GL types think? ...""

""They dont want us? Fine, we dont need them to have fun!...""

So, my response is this:

Well, you need to care what lesbians and gay men think -- you do date them. They are the folks you fall in love with, and they who fall in love with you. It is not all about fighting for your rights and protesting injustices. It is about understanding where they are coming from and their fear. All anyone (gays and lesbians) ever needs is educating. They need to understand your thoughts, needs and feelings, and you need to empathize with them as well.

It is an interesting statistic that one in five bisexual women are in lesbian relationships. This is a much higher average than population distribution would call for as straight and bisexual men out number lesbians 49 to 1.

Understanding bi and gay/lesbian issues, and the differences of those issues, is a bridge we all have to cross.

[Lonewolf76]

A few people commented saying a few things like:

""The original title of this thread was "why lesbians hate bisexuals,' and the answer was why do we need to care what GL types think? ...""

""They dont want us? Fine, we dont need them to have fun!...""

So, my response is this:

Well, you need to care what lesbians and gay men think -- you do date them. They are the folks you fall in love with, and they who fall in love with you. It is not all about fighting for your rights and protesting injustices. It is about understanding where they are coming from and their fear. All anyone (gays and lesbians) ever needs is educating. They need to understand your thoughts, needs and feelings, and you need to empathize with them as well.

It is an interesting statistic that one in five bisexual women are in lesbian relationships. This is a much higher average than population distribution would call for as straight and bisexual men out number lesbians 49 to 1.

Understanding bi and gay/lesbian issues, and the differences of those issues, is a bridge we all have to cross.

Very well said!!!

[Hephaestion]

Wow! Unless I'm missing a Hidden point here (and please correct me if I am) you are saying - "Those of us who are bisexual are equally accepted as are the rest, including the married and single heterosexuals. Where it matters, socially we all get on with great affection all around."

I don't know what world you are living in - but sadly - it sure isn't mine. Bisexuals are NOT accepted on ANY level and where it matters - socially - we are the downcast and rejected freaks who don't really exist - I'm not saying that because there is "No News" to amke up - I'm saying that because that IS THE NEWS. I wish whole heartedly that there were no news to report!! LW


You poor thing. Never mind. I live in London and have worked at a world famous place where libertine behaviour has been an obligatory tradtion over many decades. One should always knock on a colleagues door and wait in case there is a bit of straddling or oral going on. During my professional life I learnt that there is such a thing as acceptable Conference Fever (Vienna certainly does bring out the gay in colleagues) but that amorous advances towards e.g. the Queen's corgis is frowned upon and is probably a step too far.

[MarieDelta]

A few people commented saying a few things like:

""The original title of this thread was "why lesbians hate bisexuals,' and the answer was why do we need to care what GL types think? ...""

""They dont want us? Fine, we dont need them to have fun!...""

So, my response is this:

Well, you need to care what lesbians and gay men think -- you do date them. They are the folks you fall in love with, and they who fall in love with you. It is not all about fighting for your rights and protesting injustices. It is about understanding where they are coming from and their fear. All anyone (gays and lesbians) ever needs is educating. They need to understand your thoughts, needs and feelings, and you need to empathize with them as well.

It is an interesting statistic that one in five bisexual women are in lesbian relationships. This is a much higher average than population distribution would call for as straight and bisexual men out number lesbians 49 to 1.

Understanding bi and gay/lesbian issues, and the differences of those issues, is a bridge we all have to cross.

Some of us date them. I dont mind a lesbian relationship, however any relationship I could have will be a bisexual one. By default.

Plus I dont think that forming our own (more inclusive) community neccessarily precludes understanding them. However we do need to find our own voice. Letting the lesbians and gays spek for us, is as much a mistake as letting the straights speak for us. They dont know our concerns, and as of right now dont seem to care much about them.

Yes, Educate them as to our needs, but we need to speak to our own needs.

Its not much different with the trans community. We have been(and always will be) seperate from the sexuality communities. They cannot speak for us. They dont have any idea what our needs are, and while we seek to educate them, they cannot speak for us.

:bipride::flag4::flag3::flag1:

[tutunono]

:bipride: Because we do what we wanna do!

[Lonewolf76]

You poor thing. Never mind. I live in London and have worked at a world famous place where libertine behaviour has been an obligatory tradtion over many decades. One should always knock on a colleagues door and wait in case there is a bit of straddling or oral going on. During my professional life I learnt that there is such a thing as acceptable Conference Fever (Vienna certainly does bring out the gay in colleagues) but that amorous advances towards e.g. the Queen's corgis is frowned upon and is probably a step too far.

LMAO!!! I see.... Hmmmm.... London just went to the top of my must see cities!!!! Thanks for the enlightenment.. Cheers! LW

[Hephaestion]

Dear LoneWolf,

There is a tremendous accommodation of wider sexual outlooks in the UK. Brighton on the south coast is supposed to be one of the more liberated places as the 'gay' (meaning all sorts) capital of the UK.

The reality is of course that like everywhere else, one should not go around flaunting one's interests in the wrong places e.g. where the chairs have more brain cells than the people.

Did I say that I was on commission for the UK tourist board? (just kidding).

[kylz38]

:rolleyes: . hi . firstly here in oz . i am treated very diff by the les commuity and strange by the gay guy commuity . never figured out why and after reading all of the above , i dont really want to . i guess being bi allows me to be me and i dont really care at my age any more what people think of me , getting to old for crap , so to speak . i reakon its cool to be bi . and a single bi . i get to pick and choose what sex flavour of the week or month or year will be . i love the chics i get to be with , ive had 8 all up , and i have only had 4 main guys on and off over many years .its been fun i would like meet a girl and have her as my partner . i have been married but that was not fun . but being bi is a slient thing isnt it its nither here or there , but these days its all wierd any way . :bipride: .

[Lonewolf76]

Dear LoneWolf,

There is a tremendous accommodation of wider sexual outlooks in the UK. Brighton on the south coast is supposed to be one of the more liberated places as the 'gay' (meaning all sorts) capital of the UK.

The reality is of course that like everywhere else, one should not go around flaunting one's interests in the wrong places e.g. where the chairs have more brain cells than the people.

Did I say that I was on commission for the UK tourist board? (just kidding).

Thanks Heph! My ex sister in law lives just outside of London (We're still good friends) she keeps inviting me over - I think the prospect of jumping across the pond just got a great deal more appealing!! Thanks! I always love it when I'm wrong! - It makes you grow! All the best! LW

[red_rose129]

[I am speaking about my own thoughts...so I am not trying to exclude male bisexuals, etc...these views are based on the research I have done as a female bisexual and the lesbian forums/comments i have read/seen. I totally fight for love, respect, and equality for everyone!!!! I dont care who you are or what u are "classified" as. at the end of the day, to me, you are a person...and i believe you have the right to live ur life however you see fit.]

I know this may seem a little contradictory but something recently happened and I have a better understanding of why a person would choose to be exclusionary to a group of people.

Last night a friend & I went to an open club. We had a great time. We took separate cars and on the way home, we were talking on the phone. First let me say we are both married. We both have spoken about always having feelings about girls. and we both have feelings for men too. Well we were talking about possibilities.....etc and she said she has always wanted to have a "relation" with another women. [i choose that word on purpose]...where as I said i have always wanted to have a "relationship" with another woman. She said whoever she would be with would have a mutual understanding that this is what it is and nothing more. She questioned why i wouldn't want to be with someone. I told her because i dont just want to sleep with someone. I personally am not out to just sleep with a woman. I want to get to know them...date them....etc. I would like to put in the time, etc. And if I knew my friend felt the way she does, I wouldn't waste my time with her because I know she doesn't want the same things I want. I wouldn't want to waste an experience and possibly catch feelings only to create an awkward situation when I know she doesn't want the same things I do. that would make me totally vulnerable and vulnerability is an uncomfortable unstable feeling. Anyway...we both have said we are bisexual. [this is important for the next paragraph] Me personally, I wouldn't want to make an agreement that it was all for fun and nothing more. (but i do respect her honesty and choice to live her life!) To ME, that turns off emotions and the possibility of falling in love and/or a relationship.BUT, if i was a les, I wouldn't choose not to consider her if we shared the same views...even if she was "bisexual"...lol

fast forward to epiphany: If I was a lesbian and I was completely IGNORANT about bisexuals..but i knew there were possibly some who would only want to have sex with me one time just to fulfill a fantasy or use me as their experiment, I may choose to exclude them for the sake of my own feelings.

there are soo many different "types" of bisexuals I think lesbians get confused because they can't put them into separate boxes....so they lump them all together & throw them all in the trash bin. They probably dont know enuff to understand which one wants what and if that is compatible with what they want out of the relationship.

that being said, I still disagree with the idea of excluding an entire group of people based on "the possibility". Us bisexuals understand that its about the person and nothing else. and each person is different. and each person has the right to be different. and by taking the time to get to know a PERSON, you could, with time and examination, be able to tell who wants what...and go after what you want, REGARDLESS, of whether they boxed themselves as a lesbian or not.

I think by have forums like this and other bi websites, we are educating everyone . I'm not saying we need to fit into their categories...but i believe some of the dislike lesbians have for us is due to their own ignorance and unopened minds. As a bisexual, i believe you have the right to do whatever your lil heart desires, I try to be as open-minded as possible, and I feel like I should advocate for the opening of minds everywhere. that's why I go on different websites and provide an alternative view. Spread bi pride and the open-mindness and love bi's share for the world and life.

ok, now that i'm an official geek & cornball, i think i'll step off the soap box for today....lol.

red
:bipride:

[darkeyes]

Lesbians, like str8s, both men an women, an gay men hav ther bigotted arseholes an all.. even the bisexual community has its share... wy is a question that nev fails 2 amaze me cos ther is no simple ansa.. in me own case.. am a lesbian who luffs an is luffed in return by a bisexual woman.. an am eternally grateful for it.. we r our own persons wiv our own character traits an sexuality is a parta that.. mos lesbians ova 'ere don care wetha a girl is bi, str8 or gay..they jus r..an mos respect that in 'em..an they pursue, date, sleep wiv an luff otha women of all sexualities.. thing bout the bigotted lesbian women, not 2 many of 'em walk away wen faced wiv the possibility of a gud lay wiv a ratha gorge, an even less than yummie bi woman... they mite go 2 town on 'em an try an make 'em "c" they r reely gay, but thats the stupidity a the prejudiced... in the end lust, need an desire tend 2 win out woteva anotha girls sexuality is... tadge lil bitta hypocrisy or wot???

[mspen1018]

My father is a homophobic straight man and my mother is a lesbian. They split up when my mom came out when I was 13 and I came out to them when I was 15 after going both ways for a couple of years and my father was more open minded about it than my mother. My mother gave up asking which way I was going to swing a few years ago but she is more intolerant of my orientation than he is and she is one of those old school "militant" members of the gay community that wants the gay community to be about gays and lesbians.

But on a sociological level, gay and lesbian folks tend to be insecure and provocative from what I have experienced and I live somewhere that was the first state to legalize 'Civil Unions' and more recently to vote in Gay Marriage in the legislature and the discretion that comes with bisexuality is seen as something different because most bisexuals I know carry themselves differently and don't see the need to make our orientation such a core part of our identity.

[*pan*]

who knows why people hate people not like them, maby some gays think they have a conner on sexual diversity and are jealous lol. seems childish to like or dislike someone because of their sexual preference, i always thought it was personal, lol. so who is anyone to judge or condem what anyones pleasures are as long as their not interfering or hurting anyone else. some say being bisexual is having the best of both worlds but i say ye reap what ye sow. i have no regrets about my sexuality and could care less what others do for pleasure.

[AmericanBeauty]

Some lesbians hate bisexual women because they are either jealous or just don't understand them, or they worry that if they settle down with a bisexual woman that she'll leave her for a man when lesbian relationships break up all the time over cattiness, jealousy, and I know lesbians who were abused both physically and psychologically by their female partners.

I am friends with some dykes but I don't like the ones that hate men and who secretly have penis envy and even take on a man's name and dress like a man and even go so far as to take tesosterone shots but aren't transsexual at all.

[alegrias]

or as an avid bisexual would say " Why Can't We All Just Get It On?"


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lol . . . I love it.
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