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curious44
Nov 30, 2008, 3:25 AM
How prevalent are male bisexuals in the swinging community today? When we were active swingers from the late 70s to early 90s male bisexuality was almost non-existent. Almost all the women would openly have sex with each other but the men never did, at least within the groups we associated with.
So I'm asking those of you who are active swingers today, have these attitudes changed? Is male bisexuality more acceptable today for those in the swinging community?

PhunnyPhucks
Nov 30, 2008, 5:55 AM
From our experience there are quite a few bi males out there that are looking to play with couples. The problem is that most are still afraid to list themselves as bi for fear of being excluded by couples where the male is not bi.

We are members of three different swinger personal sites where we list ourselves as a bisexual couple. We get contacted almost daily by at least one male wishing to play with both of us. However, when we view their profiles, they post their status as "straight".

The number of couples that advertise themselves as "bisexual couples" is still very few.

guycurious
Nov 30, 2008, 7:35 AM
You found one here! Only recently my wife and I have attended a swingers club. The first time we met another couple and the first words out of his lips were "I don't do any male on male contact."

The second time was a month ago. We went to a Halloween swingers party !! What a blast. We met another couple upstairs in the main 'orgy' room. After a bit we retired to a smaller room and the fun began. Imagine my surprise when I reached over and helped his wife jerk him off. I asked if this was okay and he said yes. It was like winning the lottery. I also blew him for a few minutes.

We exchanged phone numbers but they never called and my wife never brought it up. I don't know if they are waiting for us to call. My wife said she liked his wife and I had hoped this could be the couple we've been seeking for over two years.

So now I feel like I'm back to square one. My bisexual frustrations are getting worse and more and more I entertain the thought of finding another male to satisfy my cravings. Internet porn provides minimal satisfaction.

But to answer your original question I have not seen any other male bisexuality in the two times we've gone to the club.

anteak
Nov 30, 2008, 8:08 AM
Years ago my wife and I went to "Plato's West" a number of times. I did see F F sex occaisionaly but never saw M M The gals openly sucked cock and us guy's loved to eat pussy.

I'll never forget the time three young girls They looked too young to get in but the got on the mattresses in the cloud 9 room. Almost right next to us. The procceded to lick each others pussies til the all had orgasms, took about an hour. The wife and I just watched and fucked. I came 7 times that night.

fairbankswingers
Nov 30, 2008, 11:13 AM
it is very hard...and to the point even my wife is sold on the MM is bad FF is good...she is ok with me being bi, but not wanting to opening watch...in other words if she is with the woman and I am with the other guy as long as she is not watching she is cool with it...think it comes from all the years of it being so negitive, just like anal sex thing - people think it is dirty....same with bi men and some folks actually think the only way you get HIV is through bimen...:eek: and run when in fact just being bi does not make you hiv +

Realist
Nov 30, 2008, 11:41 AM
My first wife was bi, also with your wife's opinion. She felt that it was "natural" for women to be attracted to each other and to interact sexually. Girls are pretty, shapely and built for love. Men, however, who are NOT pretty, have no breasts, or smooth shapely bodies....they should NOT have sex with each other...because it is just plain GROSS! Well, I loved her and she was everything to me for a long time. She never did know the extent of my own bisexuality, as I kept it hidden and never did stray. I don't tell everyone, even now, that I have loved a few men, but I do tell any prospective lover that it has happened and could again.

JustaguyIndy
Nov 30, 2008, 11:47 AM
Being a single Bi male, who is also white, I am apparently the scourge of the universe, not wanted by anyone and get all the blame. Gee, thanks.

bigulfcpl
Nov 30, 2008, 12:00 PM
I am a bisexual male in a loving marriage, and we swing primarily for the bisexual play. We have not found many bi males in the lifestyle, but, we have found a local group that accepts all bisexual play, so we have somewhere to go and express ourselves.

We do come across a lot of single bi males, and when we are in the mood for a MMF, it is not too difficult to find one.

Ron

guycurious
Nov 30, 2008, 12:55 PM
Being a single Bi male, who is also white, I am apparently the scourge of the universe, not wanted by anyone and get all the blame. Gee, thanks.


My wife and I would love to find a local bi male we could build a relationship with. My fear is that he would be with us and with others without our knowledge.

I often fantasize about finding another male who is around our age, decent looks (not being arrogant here), lives close, has similar interests and is looking for a committed relationship with a couple. Then reality comes crashing in and I am sucked back into reality.

JustaguyIndy
Nov 30, 2008, 1:04 PM
There's always a catch .... but there are (at least I know of one!) single bi guys out there who would welcome a real relationship.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Nov 30, 2008, 1:18 PM
Speaking as a Lifestyler, bi men are vastly more accepted than they were a few years ago. They dont have the stigma that they Used to have and are accepted in many of the Swingers groups. Just depends on what group and where you are. :}:2cents:
Cat

Trinity-Fl
Nov 30, 2008, 2:31 PM
We lived as a triad together for almost 4 years. I was the third. We lived together, slept together and bought a house together. Now as a couple we're seeking that real bi guy.

We gave up the swingers sites. This is the only site we're on now. We've had a few partners over the last 4 years and enjoyed them.

Personally, I think that a monogamous triad is close to impossible. We tried "poly fidelity" and ended up inviting some extra guys and couples to join us. :)

We've been to some swingers clubs and it can be tricky. It got to be too much hassle. :)

12voltman59
Nov 30, 2008, 6:01 PM
As I have said in previous threads of this type and echoing what others have said here----there was a time that I had tried to get into a swinger's club---I was told very clearly that as a single male--I was not open to join unless invited by a couple who was married and already members---that single males are certainly not welcome and are personas non grata---now--be a single female that is at all good looking----they would welcome her with more than open arms!!!

So I kinda figured early on that 'swinging" was a bunch of BS!!! It was basically----men fulfilling their long and apparently deeply held fantasy of being with two women.

I can say---I was once with two ladies--but they were far more into each other than me---but hey--I sat back and watched them having fun---and did the best for myself that I could do!! :bigrin::bigrin:

I think for the biggest number of swingers--certainly not all---but for the majority of them----the only form of "bisexuality" they like and find acceptable is two women getting it on--- but two two men doing it!!!

"No fucking way!!! That is sick and SSSOOO GGGAYYY!!!"

FalconAngel
Nov 30, 2008, 6:51 PM
We have been to a couple of different clubs here in S FL, but only saw one that was Bi-male friendly. Unfortunately, their Bi night was late on a Sunday evening, so it was impractical for most of the Bi people that would have otherwise gone.

It was also near Miami Airport, so anyone in Broward County had a long trek to get there and back.

Every other club that we looked at was adamant about being homophobic, so Bi-male sex was completely out for all of them, except for the one we did look at in Miami.

It really sucks, and not in a good way.

biplayfulcouple
Dec 2, 2008, 11:04 AM
we have been married for a long time and have been in "the lifestyle", for about 6 years. we are both pushing 50 but look 10 years younger and are in fairly good shape. since we came into the lifestyle, my wife has always been bi. she enjoys playing with guys as well as gals, but she is very picky and that limits, some of our play.

recently, in the last few years i have started to play bi as well. it began at the suggestion/dare of a couple, that we were playing with. it was in the heat of the moment and his wife dared me. my wife then grabbed his dick and challenged me; "go for it". seeing how turned on our wives, we ended up both playing manually and orally bi with each other. of course the girls played together and we all played with each other etc. my wife and i always play together; never separately. (we would never consider meeting a single male, bi or otherwise). i had no idea, how much, this would turn our wives on! and since it turns the gals on, it only makes it more exciting for the guys! whew!

since that first bi-male experience, we have subsequently found out, that some of our other play partners, enjoy bi-male play and we have played that way, with them too. we still play with them and it is "hush hush". it is SO not acceptable, to be "OUT" as a bi-playful guy, in the lifestyle! although as someone commented; you are seeing a little more of it, on some of the swinger social networking sites. im glad that some couples are seeing it for what it is; "just sex".

we run in a big circle of lifestyle pals. it is absolutely amazing to me (and exciting for us, as man and wife); that i am engaging in this secret behavior! we have been conditioned for so long, that this is wrong, taboo, etc. so my wife and it have never even considered it, or fantasized about it; heretofore (and we talk about EVERYTHING). ten, twenty years ago, i would have considered this behavior totally disgusting. now it is just part of "play" with our "couple-friends". it has added another dimension to our sex and fantasy life. its fun to talk about in the sack and it really gets our motors running. especially bi-anal sex, fantasies, with other couples. (we have never done that). in addition to conventional sexual behavior, we have always been anally oriented, in our marriage. dont come down on me, i know that anal is now (and always has been) extremely prevalent. it was just not talked about and not considered mainstream, by many.

like many of you gentlemen here on the board, i did engage in childhood "play" with other guys, (4th 5th grade); but never oral and never beyond that age. that would have surely meant, that we were "queer"! i was so nieve; that a childhood friend, actually had to teach me, how to jack off! LOL. i do remember it being extremely pleasureable and exciting, but that may have been the "rush", from the potential of being "caught". and as i matured, i put all of that experience in the rearview mirror and attributed it to raging hormones and "childhood". fortunately; unlike some of the posters on this board, i was never conflicted about my sexuality. i always knew that i was straight and that i loved women and was always attracted to them. the only problem that i had, as a child, was terrible "guilt"..........but that was with all "sex activities", male and female. with childhood and current "guy" play partners, there is no "attraction thing" whatsoever. its "just sex" and its in the context of our marriage and with other couples.

i'd really like to hear from other men and women and their experiences. and especially from lifestyle couples.

intimate57
Mar 28, 2013, 6:12 PM
Very few for now!

bi4asplay
Mar 29, 2013, 12:34 AM
I am Bi and have been for a very long time. When I lived in Texas I ran two swinger's clubs. FF was great If a guy was Bi and anyone in the club found out you would be a none touch.

BiJoe696
Mar 29, 2013, 6:50 AM
Have found the same thing as mentioned in other posts. It is rare to find other couples where he is Bi, she knows and listed as such on Swing Sites and even more usuaual to find at get together s, though we haven't been to many in recent years. We have been to an Adults Only Nude campground in the area that is Bi and Gay friendly both together and I have gone solo. It is lots of fun. Also have found that I have met other guys who are on Swing sites and listed as straight but are Bi and wife don't know. We are always getting solo guys looking for MMF, but alas wife is not into MMF 3 ways. Only open to meeting other couples.

Have sometimes listed as straight also on other profiles on other sites, sometimes as Bi, it will limit you if you list as Bi, other "straights" will not respond (unless you happen to meet them on another site where they are listed as Bi or looking for M2M fun which has happened more than once in my small world.)

Eddie altamonte
Mar 29, 2013, 9:55 PM
It is no secret that the swinging community for as much as it professes consensual sex frowns about male bisexuality
It is fine as long as it stays in the closet... I almost was kicked out of a club because of this dude and I started engaging in mutual satisfaction in the jaccuzzi... It waasn't brought up politely either

goldenfinger
Mar 30, 2013, 3:01 AM
SAW this on TV last night. I like this girl.

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/24731

NjbiGuy01
Mar 30, 2013, 3:03 PM
It's indeed a quandry. I've met and enjoyed play with a number of couples over the years I've played. A few were through Swinger websites, and yes, the bi-male side was well buried. One couple was one of the nicest and most enjoyable pleasant people I've met and played with as well. We actually bumped into one another years later on Facebook ! He was a macho construction worker guy. She was bi, and her profile (even on facebook) shows her as bi. She's a happy, family woman who's now a grandmother in her early 50's. Well, despite him being listed as "straight", lo and behold, she offered him my cock, and then asked if I would suck him. We both did her, I could not handle him when he wanted to top me, but she did him well with a massive strap on as he as he and I 69'ed, but again, no mention anywhere outside the bedroom. It's still a double standard that women can play bi, but men seem scorned at the thought. Bi couples are tough to find for sure, and those wanting single or married men and not couples, well, thats even tougher too. Even a straight guy joining a couple can be a potential threat to the relationship. While we all wish we would have a "best friend" (I see the many couples in this thread looking for "that guy"), it's a slippery slope. A man could feel he's threatened by a guy who maybe pleases his wife more....women maybe fear a guy could convert their husband gay, but I'm not sure.

open2joy
Mar 30, 2013, 4:13 PM
Have to go to a club with private rooms to make MM bi happen. Or off premise and usually best to set up ahead of time. We actually prefer singles. In our experience couples always get weird with it somehow, despite expressing specific interest in it.

bi4asplay
Oct 27, 2013, 1:01 PM
Have to go to a club with private rooms to make MM bi happen. Or off premise and usually best to set up ahead of time. We actually prefer singles. In our experience couples always get weird with it somehow, despite expressing specific interest in it.

I sure wish there were couples in North West Florida Gulf Coast area like you.

bi4asplay
Mar 30, 2015, 4:30 PM
Have to go to a club with private rooms to make MM bi happen. Or off premise and usually best to set up ahead of time. We actually prefer singles. In our experience couples always get weird with it somehow, despite expressing specific interest in it.

The last couple that I was with talked it up a lot then when I touched him it went all wrong.

pole_smoker
Mar 30, 2015, 5:01 PM
One of my male ex's who is bisexual tried getting into hetero swinging as a then single male living in a few major cities that he moved to decades ago (this was long before we were together), and he said how swingers were not good at practicing safer sex, were ugly and out of shape, and needed to get more sunshine and vitamins and get out more. LMAO!!!

But he did say how he fucked some nice hot pussy with the few women who were actually attractive and not like that, and how he had some chick suck him and some other dude off at the same time but he didn't actually have any sex with men as an out bisexual man.

He also got into the gay male orgy/swinging scene with a man he dated before me where he would mainly go to orgies and watch, or get sucked off or bring the man who he was dating and they would find a hungry and greedy cocksucker who wanted to suck them both off at once.

charles-smythe
Mar 30, 2015, 5:05 PM
I am Bi and have been for a very long time. When I lived in Texas I ran two swinger's clubs. FF was great If a guy was Bi and anyone in the club found out you would be a none touch....where were the clubs that you ran?...

Olivia920601
Apr 22, 2015, 1:42 AM
Have u ever been to this site? I guess it works for you
http://www.bi-sexualdating.com/

SecretlyNaughty
Aug 31, 2016, 5:53 PM
Howdy! New here! *wave*

I know this is an older thread but I thought I would pop in here ...

My Husband and I go to a local Swingers Club in Kissimmee. My Husband enjoys male interaction and is Bi, though he doesn't list that publicly because his Mother would keel over dead. We do some things in our community and we'd like to keep what we do in our bedroom our own business. So, we hide.

We frequent a local swingers club/resort here in Kissimmee, Florida and we have yet to find a bi-couple nor see anything bi going on besides woman on woman. If any of that kind of interaction is going on, it's happening behind closed doors in rooms and never in the play areas, pool or cabanas. In fact I've seen a lot of joking around in the pool if men accidentally bump into each other. Much manliness goes on trying to prove they are straight. Yet the girls are all over each other.

We would LOVE to figure out where the true Bi Lifestyle parties are and would like to attend!

We have had a third in our bed for a couple of years now. We love him very much and he'd probably attend with us, if allowed. We found him by sheer luck! He's been to these types of parties and says they DO exist.

I think it's crap that this double standard exists. I find m/m interaction to be quite hot. Nothing knows all the spots on a guy like another guy. I've always thought my BJ skills were good, but my husband outdoes me. It's fun! He's even taught me stuff. ;)

We would like to find these parties or get on the list that has them or SOMETHING! When we move, we might even be interested in trying to host something like this.

sysper
Aug 31, 2016, 8:20 PM
u think guy on guy is hot but i think u will agree, most women don't think so. but most guys do think girl on girl is hot. i wouldn't be surprised if more girls were into girl on girl than guy on guy. for guys u can explain it by saying guys are pressured to be manly men lol gay sex is not masculine especially if ur bottom. don't really know why women wouldn't like it. worth thinking about.

SecretlyNaughty
Aug 31, 2016, 8:42 PM
Most women don't because they aren't truly bi and are only in girl on girl for shock value to make the men squirm.

For the record, I'm the woman responding in these posts .... not a guy.

sysper
Aug 31, 2016, 8:56 PM
understand & agree some women do girl on girl for shock value. i'll be honest girl on girl really turns me on! big shock for a guy to say that right lol. when it's real i think it's the most beautifull expression of sexuality. but when they do it just to get attention it's kinda fake, not as hot for me. but i'm having trouble understanding, why would a women need to be bi to appreciate 2 guys togather? or ru saying most women aren't into girl on girl? i wasn't sure what u meant.

SecretlyNaughty
Aug 31, 2016, 9:05 PM
I'm not saying they have to be. But to me if they are okay with girl and girl, and they say they are bi, then the should be ok with male and male or it's hypocrisy and a double standard.

redngoldpride
Aug 31, 2016, 9:53 PM
As a truely bisexual I have been since I was 14yo and in the lifestyle since I was 16 and have been part of the same group ever since we bi's are of smaller #'s openly that is but so many of our couples love getting together for private get togethers so they feel more comfortable with the bisex aspect , but I must say the ones who openly let and encourage their partners to engage in bisexuality at the much larger gatherings always draw good crowds and you can usually see in some eyes and expressions of those who desire to take the chance

sysper
Aug 31, 2016, 10:53 PM
yeah i gotta agree there too

SecretlyNaughty
Sep 1, 2016, 6:24 PM
I agree redngoldpride! I think there's a LOT of men who would want to try it, but they can't let go of the stigma.

My ex-husband was bi, yet refused to admit it beyond the bedroom door. He had issues when we tried to do things and I was enjoying the other guy. When it came down to actually doing it - HE was the one that froze, not me. That's usually the other way around from what I understand. lol

cuttin2dachase
Sep 2, 2016, 5:35 PM
My first bi experience was in a 4some with a married couple (Linda and Dave) my wife and I'd met twice before. My wife would gladly kiss and make out and suck other womens' boobs and eat pussy. She also enjoyed being on the receiving end of another woman's desire to pleasure her. But she would tell me privately that she was only situationally bi and did girl on girl things only to get the guys all hot and hard. Otherwise, she said she could take it or leave it. She had been coaxing me to try oral sex with other men, saying that it would turn her on very much. We knew Linda was very bi but thought Dave was str8 until Linda told my wife that Dave was bi too. I had told my wife I would try sucking cock for her if the other guy ever initiated the mm play. The girls hatched a plan. Linda told Dave to begin stroking my cock the next time he and I were sitting naked next to each other watching the girls play. Basically, I was set up, but when Dave began stroking me, I immediately returned the favor. The idea of mm play had begun to interest me the more my wife had encouraged me to try. He went down on me and I returned the favor as the girls watched and masturbated each other. I was hooked on cock from that night on. Now, I was not only a swinger, but an orally bi swinger. Wifey and I turned our focus to 3somes with bi men as a result.

But to get back on topic. Dave and Linda were the only couple out of the dozens we ever met who were into both ff and mm play with other couples. We found no shortage of bi men for 3somes. After my hotwife and I split up, I went solo and found it very rare to meet couples who were seeking bi men. It's just very rare for a str8 or bi, married or single woman to be freaky and kinky enough to really wrap their heads around and embrace the idea of two masculine men having sex in their presence or even the idea of 2 men having 1 on 1 sex alone. I wish there were lots more kinky wives/gfs out there who'd love to watch their men with me and join in if they so chose. I sure do miss meeting mf couples for 3way sex :( I also keep looking for a woman who could be my FWB and confidant and either join me with other men or be OK if I have bfs on the side.

sysper
Sep 2, 2016, 8:38 PM
i would like to be with a women who finds 2 guys togather hot, it would make me feel less guilty about finding 2 girls togather hot lol........but seriously......or more seriously......i would like to be with a women who is openminded but not just sexually. maybe challenge me to open my mind more. maybe challenge each other.

NakedInSeattle
Sep 2, 2016, 8:53 PM
We separated ourselves from the swinging community due mainly to it's 'double standard'. Bi gals are enjoyed and encouraged. A bi wife meant a couple went to the best parties. But any male bi action got you thrown out of the club or ostracized from those 'friends'. That's not to say that bi guys aren't in the swinging community but so repressed. I met a guy at a gay bathhouse with whom we had also known at a swinger party. He said, "Damn, I wish we had known you were bi. We could have had some real fun."

As the lovely Ms. Mountain Cat has said, though, it is getting better. But only slightly from what we can tell.

al_atlanta
Sep 2, 2016, 9:14 PM
I started swinging with (mostly) older couples when I was 18. Some of the cougar wives liked younger men. Wasn't bi then but got to enjoy the husbands attentions. Went through a phase where I sucked a cock and ate the only load I've eaten so far. At that point I pretty much have to say I'm bi.