McCain - Fonda Ticket

[welickit]

A McCain - Hanoi Jane ticket would be like being bisexual except you get the worst of both worlds. Oh well Palin will work, she is a good second to stand in for Jane. In addition to being a boob she continues to knowingly breed them. That makes sense.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Ohhhh! Dont EVEN get me started on Jane Fonda..GRRRRRRRRRR.!
As a former Veterans Rep's aide, I know all about that one. In fact at my Veterans Memoribilia booth, I can barely Keep anything that throws a dig at Hanoi Jane, and, you'd be surprised how many times I've had to explain the decals of Dirty Johnny pissing on the word Fonda, or explaining the patch that says Jane Fonda, American traitor bitch.
Aw well..stopping before I climb up higher on the soapbox and have to be helped down...lol
Cat

[welickit]

Nice that you were a vet's rep. I was in an evac hospital outside Black Horse base camp when Hanoi Jane made her visit to Hanoi. Given my options I would have Jane take McCain & Palin and go back there and stay there. McCain graduated at the bottom of his class, no wonder he screwed up in Viet Nam.

[welickit]

Jan. 18, 2008 --- The award-winning documentary film, "Missing, Presumed Dead: The Search For America's POWs" narrated by Ed Asner backs up allegations that John McCain repeatedly thwarted attempts by U.S. Senate investigators to examine the abandonment of American POWs in Southeast Asia and North Korea.

"Missing Presumed Dead," which won two film festival "Best Documentary" awards, explores McCain's successful attempt to pass a stealth bill in the Senate which effectively keeps his POW records sealed in perpituity and provides insight into why he does not want these records ever to be made public - including the revelation of the many propaganda radio broadcasts he delivered for the North Vietnamese. The film also explains why McCain's refusal of early release from a North Vietnamese POW camp had a less than honorable motive.

The charges against McCain are revealed in the documentary by such political luminaries as former New Hampshire Senator Bob Smith; Jesse Helms' chief of staff, Dr. James Lusier; former Congressman Bob Dornan; U.S. Senate lead investigator, Tracy Usery; and author, Dr. Joseph Douglass, Jr. ("Betrayed").

This documentary goes in depth to answer some of these persistant questions:

Why were these POWs abandoned?

Are some of these POWs still alive in North Korea and Vietnam?

Is John McCain really the president we want guiding our future generations?

According to Jerry Kiley, a group leader of Vietnam Vets against McCain, Kiley says, "John McCain has created this myth that he is a hero, and he is not."

Kiley's group cites as evidence a May, 1973, U.S. News & World Report article by McCain in which McCain said he realized, on his third or fourth day of captivity after his plane was shot down in 1967, that his knee was so swollen the blood might pool in it and kill him, so he offered to give military information to his captors in exchange for medical treatment.

Consequently several military missions were compromised.

"Missing, Presumed Dead" was supported by several POW/MIA organizations who cite John McCain as one of the biggest obstacles in resolving the abandonment of America's POW/MIAs. Go to http://www.missingpresumeddead.com to learn more

[12voltman59]

[QUOTE=welickit;110952According to Jerry Kiley, a group leader of Vietnam Vets against McCain, Kiley says, "John McCain has created this myth that he is a hero, and he is not."

/QUOTE]

Well--as I have paraphrased and appropriated the old quote before--I say it again---"tell the big lie enough times, and big enough in many, many ways--on television no less--than it has a way of becoming 'TRUTH--the whole truth and nothing but the uncontestable, unassailable TRUTH!"

Both the right and left have their myths, spun truth and such--but you do have to hand it to those of the American political right--they are absolute masters at this mix of art and science--they have so well perfected this modus operandi.

[darkeyes]

Wetha John McCain is hero or not cant say an no 1 else can wivout the evidence 2 say for sure.. howeva ther do seem 2 b questions 2 b asked an ansas 2 b got an seems 2 me not much of eitha happnin..

Regardin Jane an me knos me gonna upset sum peeps me cares for an likes an luffs very much on this site but wot upsets me bout er aint 'er visit 2 Hanoi an er protestin gainst the war..its the fact that eva since she been backpedallin an grovellin an apparently regrettin havin taken er stance.. thats 'er rite 2 do so..but wetha its outa conviction, guilt or cosa the reaction an concern for 'er career an standin in the US jus dunno..but am a pacifist..opposed 2 war.. do not support my country's troops in ne foreign misadventure an h8 how we r manipulated inta doin so by hypocritical an unscrupulous polticians an media.. am oppsed 2 war..will b opposed 2 war an am damn sure me won eva run away from a lil thing like criticism.. principles r principles.. an they more important 2 me than ne career or the contempt a me countrymen an women...

Me dad pointed out Jane Fonda as an example a sum 1 who we shud not use as a role model cos she refused 2 b true 2 erself... an that much more important than ne thin else...