PHOTO PRIVACY PROBLEMS

[IanGray]

Having tried photo sharing sites such as FLICKR, I have been put off due to the public option being the default privacy setting. This means that if I forget this when I wish all to be seen by my friends only, everyone is going to be able to see them. This would cause problems if the photos were porn.

It seems to me that private should be the default setting. What do you think folks? :(

[**Peg**]

the photo-sharing sites are designed to share. It's up to you to protect your privacy. This is why you must read the small print.

most of these social-networking (my space and facebook being the two most popular) and photo-sharing sites (flickr and photobucket) are designed (possibly mainly) for kids to "keep in touch with ALL your friends".

Pedophiles know this. So do authors of bot programs who search for email addresses. If you put any "private" info on the net it is no longer private. I cringe when I see proud Moms and Dads posting pics of all their kids online.

That's why I avoid all of them like the plague.

If I want to share pics I email them privately.

[shameless agitator]

Peg has a good point. Also bear in mind that porn would violate the tos of those sites & be banned. You're better off hosting your own site if you want to keep the pics private.

[IanGray]

You are both describing what I find disturbing about the internet. If anyone comes to harm as a result of sharing photos, sites such as flickr I feel, should at least take part of the blame. :(

[allbimyself]

No one is ever responsible for their own actions. Let's blame everyone else.

[canuckotter]

You are both describing what I find disturbing about the internet. If anyone comes to harm as a result of sharing photos, sites such as flickr I feel, should at least take part of the blame. :(
You think Flickr should take part of the blame... why? It's not like they're hunting you down and taking your picture... They're not stealing your picture from somewhere... I don't understand what they're doing that's bad.

And yes, as shameless agitator points out, porn (or even questionable) pics are a violation of the TOS for most of those sites.

[IanGray]

You think Flickr should take part of the blame... why? It's not like they're hunting you down and taking your picture... They're not stealing your picture from somewhere... I don't understand what they're doing that's bad.

And yes, as shameless agitator points out, porn (or even questionable) pics are a violation of the TOS for most of those sites.

Your point is a valid one, however, sites like flickr provide the environment for sharing and could improve their privacy policies. what I would like to see is some effort towards prevention rather than a cure, as so often does not happen in life.

[csrakate]

One way for them to prevent such an occurrence would be to refuse to post your pictures altogether....so why not take a bit of personal responsibility and make sure you hit your default settings....I simply don't understand why you expect someone else to look over your shoulder! If you're old enough to be doing the posting...then act it and act accordingly by taking all precautions yourself.

[allbimyself]

Your point is a valid one, however, sites like flickr provide the environment for sharing and could improve their privacy policies. what I would like to see is some effort towards prevention rather than a cure, as so often does not happen in life.Privacy policies? Why should they? If people want to use ANY service they better know WTF they are getting into. Millions of people use flickr with their current policies so why should flickr change?

There ARE other photo sharing services. Find one that suits your needs. Trying to force everyone to do things the way you want is fascist.

[IanGray]

Privacy policies? Why should they? If people want to use ANY service they better know WTF they are getting into. Millions of people use flickr with their current policies so why should flickr change?

There ARE other photo sharing services. Find one that suits your needs. Trying to force everyone to do things the way you want is fascist.

My intention is not to force anyone, but to create a healthy debate about the issue and hopefully attract as many varying opinions. It will help me and others come to better conclusions.

regards Ian

[allbimyself]

My intention is not to force anyone, but to create a healthy debate about the issue and hopefully attract as many varying opinions. It will help me and others come to better conclusions.

Really?

You seem to have said something different before:


If anyone comes to harm as a result of sharing photos, sites such as flickr I feel, should at least take part of the blame.

and


what I would like to see is some effort towards prevention rather than a cure

Sounds like that is EXACTLY what you intended. If you think flickr should be held responsible for what happens to people that don't follow the flickr TOS then you ARE advocating they be FORCED to change their policy.

Furthermore, if you want to actually accomplish anything other than whining, you should take this up with flickr. Telling us about it doesn't change the situation. Believe it or not, businesses actually listen to customers. If enough people complain (to them) they WILL listen. (They can't listen when you tell other people about it.) They might not change anything as there are other factors a business has to weigh when contemplating a change, but believe me, they do consider their customer's concerns.

BTW, the internet is a great place. If you think you can can provide a better service than flickr, have at it! The VAST majority of even the most successful internet sites were started by someone without a lot of cash in their pocket. Google, flickr, ebay, etc, etc, ad nauseum, were all started by one or a few people that had an idea and worked hard. Eventually they proved their ideas were worthy and others invested, but without that individual entrepreneurship and hard work, those sites never would have happened.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Hey Allbi? If you were to put up naughty pice "I'd" peek at em, Hon..*Leering grin* lol
Cat:cool:

[canuckotter]

Your point is a valid one, however, sites like flickr provide the environment for sharing and could improve their privacy policies. what I would like to see is some effort towards prevention rather than a cure, as so often does not happen in life.
Complaining that a photo-sharing site is sharing the photos you've posted to share... I honestly just don't understand where you're getting a problem out of that. And what does a privacy policy have to do with it? They're not sharing private information. The only info they make available is information you've given them specifically to share (username, photos, comments, etc).

[tallkerri]

I've already lost one career because of a posted photo on the web. It was racy, not pornographic, but somehow my ex-boss thought me kissing his wife's thigh was enough to fire me.....:eek: Photo sharing is NOT a good idea.

[IanGray]

Really?

You seem to have said something different before:



and



Sounds like that is EXACTLY what you intended. If you think flickr should be held responsible for what happens to people that don't follow the flickr TOS then you ARE advocating they be FORCED to change their policy.

Furthermore, if you want to actually accomplish anything other than whining, you should take this up with flickr. Telling us about it doesn't change the situation. Believe it or not, businesses actually listen to customers. If enough people complain (to them) they WILL listen. (They can't listen when you tell other people about it.) They might not change anything as there are other factors a business has to weigh when contemplating a change, but believe me, they do consider their customer's concerns.

BTW, the internet is a great place. If you think you can can provide a better service than flickr, have at it! The VAST majority of even the most successful internet sites were started by someone without a lot of cash in their pocket. Google, flickr, ebay, etc, etc, ad nauseum, were all started by one or a few people that had an idea and worked hard. Eventually they proved their ideas were worthy and others invested, but without that individual entrepreneurship and hard work, those sites never would have happened.

Your comments give me food for thought. Thanks for all replies to my thread.

Regards

Ian

[IanGray]

Just a note to anyone who might object to me passing on my experiences of surfing the web. The internet is far from a safe, secure place hosted by 100% genuine,honest people who work for everyones interest. True there are honest and genuine people involved, but can everyone tell the difference between who's genuine and who's not?

I will, therefore continue passing on my experience of the internet.

Ian