For the geeks--Star Trek Movie teaser trailer

[12voltman59]

For those of you who are Star Trek fans--and have yet to see the teaser trailer for the new Star Trek film--here it is-too bad we have to wait now until summer 2009---I was hoping it would make it for the original release date of this coming Christmas---I guess the writer's strike probably held things up somewhat.

I was wondering on how they were going to create ficitional world of Star Trek today since they had the Enterprise series that made the first ship very slick and such---it would be hard to watch a movie with the kinds of sets they had for the Classic series of the 1960s.

It looks like its going to look cool and slick--I am not a purist so I have no problem if they took some liberties and made things look sleeker and more tech than what we saw in the original series---I doubt if Gene Roddenberry would have any problems with that---he would have done as much as budget and technology would allow.

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

[pasco_lol_cpl]

Oh My God, if you only knew the hell this trailer raised among the Trek community (see startrek.com and trekbbs.com). Some are excited, some are angry (the uber purists). Me I'm going to reserve judgement and see how this plays out. As for the trailer its self, its looks great. But there are rumors that those scenes shown in the trailer are trailer specific and may not even be a part of the film. I guess time will tell. But having to wait another 12 or so months is killing me.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

I have been a "Trekkie" ever since the show first came out, so many years ago. This should be interesting. And, having Leonard Nimoy's voice on there was eerily delightful as well.
Cant wait to see this one, And the new X-Files one, too..:}
Cat

[texasman6172003]

I have been a "Trekkie" ever since the show first came out, so many years ago. This should be interesting. And, having Leonard Nimoy's voice on there was eerily delightful as well.
Cant wait to see this one, And the new X-Files one, too..:}
Cat
Gawd Cat,i KNEW there was another reason i like you so much,LOL,:bigrin: I am a Trekkie from wayyyy back. Mostly a fan of the Origanil series.. LIVE LONG AND PROSPER,!!!!

[Nick_bi]

Well not all purists are dead set against it. I'm a pretty diehard Trek fan, and I'm quite content to judge the movie on its merits. I don't think anyone reasonable can expect them to make a multi-million dollar movie that looks exactly like the original sixties show. Sure, fans would go to see it, but the general public never would, and if it's going to be a financial success, they need the general public.

I'm quietly optimistic, but I guess time will tell.

[mindfinding]

freakin sweeeeet!!!!

[FalconAngel]

We've seen the trailer before, but wish they would come out with a full trailer.

Been trekkers forever and have nearly every season of Star Trek and all of it's spin-offs.

As far as the scenes in the trailer are concerned, I am certain that some of them will make it into the film, since the law requires movie trailers to contain at least 50% of scenes that will be in the film and 100% of scenes that were actually shot for final production, but for some reason or another, ended up on the cutting room floor.

[vittoria]

Trek Forever Man

Parents taught me how to read using the comic books that came with 45 records of shatner, nimoy, et al doing their own voices!

Watched the Animated series with religious fervor!

Seen EVERY MOVIE ( yes, even boring ass TMP) FIRST RUN!!!

Was born 1 month and 4 days before the 10 year anniversary of Trek!

Saturday evenings at 6pm after Kung Fu (The ORIGINAL series!! damn boiling water and screaming) on Channel 43!!

Even quoted Trek at Shawn's funeral (Star Trek 2: i have been and always shall be your friend)

HOWEVER....

If they Fkk this up...

BOY OH BOY!!!! Its on like Donkey Kong!!!

Yes, I'm a Purist. You caught me.

And ya know what...
they have no fargin excuse...
If Deep Space Nine ( which I LOVED BTW... hated voyager and janeways gravelly voice.. made me think of the actress who played her when she was in the movie "Throw Mamma From the Train") could go "back in time" to solve something in the era of Kirk, Spock, and Bones, and use the same outfits and sh*t, it would stand to reason that they would be able to make something look halfway decent and like we knew it... after all... they werent supposed to have certain types of technology yet... and if they keep fkkn around, it wont make sense to future generations.

:2cents:

[vittoria]

Well not all purists are dead set against it. I'm a pretty diehard Trek fan, and I'm quite content to judge the movie on its merits. I don't think anyone reasonable can expect them to make a multi-million dollar movie that looks exactly like the original sixties show. Sure, fans would go to see it, but the general public never would, and if it's going to be a financial success, they need the general public.

I'm quietly optimistic, but I guess time will tell.

How many Trek fans does it take to become the "general public"?

All of them :tong:

[proseros]

My understanding [from someone presumably on the inside of the scifiET field] is that the film actually will be, a *prequel*-So essentially we will be looking for the Enterprise crew, before the Enterprise exists [as the trailer hints]. I've also been told what is left of the original crew-cast will cameo as well, but I don't know how that will be worked into the film.

I dunno about *ST purism* but it is about time for a generational upgrade at least filmwise, the series has a lot of ground to cover and if remaining loyal to Roddenbery's genius can go a long long way...

[pasco_lol_cpl]

My understanding [from someone presumably on the inside of the scifiET field] is that the film actually will be, a *prequel*-So essentially we will be looking for the Enterprise crew, before the Enterprise exists [as the trailer hints]. I've also been told what is left of the original crew-cast will cameo as well, but I don't know how that will be worked into the film.

I dunno about *ST purism* but it is about time for a generational upgrade at least filmwise, the series has a lot of ground to cover and if remaining loyal to Roddenbery's genius can go a long long way...
You are right. This is a complete reboot of the series, though Lennoard Nimoy will be making some appearances. Apparently this movie will be a big flash back for him. This is to tie in the reboot with the existing 'trekverse'. The Shatman has been specifically excluded from the film. As for Roddenbery's genius, Hoepfully they will be trying to pay homage to the genius of the 60s and not the drug ravaged mind of the late 80s, early 90s.

[HighEnergy]

I love the original series. I actually rented them all to watch with my girls last winter. I was amazed to see that William Shatner was so buff in the series. Guess I was watching them before I got to the age to really appreciate that!

And then there's Jean Luc Piccard's, "Make it so." Shudder with delight.

[Nick_bi]

You are right. This is a complete reboot of the series, though Lennoard Nimoy will be making some appearances. Apparently this movie will be a big flash back for him. This is to tie in the reboot with the existing 'trekverse'. The Shatman has been specifically excluded from the film. As for Roddenbery's genius, Hoepfully they will be trying to pay homage to the genius of the 60s and not the drug ravaged mind of the late 80s, early 90s.
This movie is built around Nimoy's involvment, so it's rather more than some appearances. He is absolutely integral to the plot.

None of the other cast are appearing, and Shatner isn't in because Kirk's dead in the timeframe of Nimoy's Spock.

Also, despite what some are saying, the movie is not a wholesale reboot, and is despite the cosmetic changes, is supposed to fit into the existing Star Trek universe. At least that's what the writers and the producer are saying. So it's a prequel, but not a reboot per se.


How many Trek fans does it take to become the "general public"?

All of them :tong:
That's what they're hoping for. ;)

[12voltman59]

The story for this movie as I understand it---it features the launch of the Enterprise NCC-1701. As in the pilot of the original--the Captain is Christopher Pike--Kirk is a young officer as is Spock, McCoy, and at least Scotty--and all of them are portrayed by young actors.

Lenord Nimoy is playing Spock as well, and he comes back from a future time-I am assuming from the time of Star Trek:TNG since he can't play himself as younger obviously given that he is like 70 or so now.

The story will show how Pike was injured and Kirk comes to take command of Enterprise--it will be hard to reconile the story of the original pilot if that part is so---since they would have to have a mission for those events to take place--but being fiction--they can do what they will.

I do hope and feel that they are going to have a winner with this new Star Trek movie-and hopefully it will breathe new life into what has been a great fictional world that with the Star Trek TNG movies and "Enterprise" was running out of gas.

I think that in this post 9/11 time--the story will be a bit darker and perhaps not as hopeful and optimistic as what Gene Roddenberry had created---but if Star Trek is to remain relevant to our time----it will have to change--besides--when they did Star Trek Deep Space Nine--they certainly veered from the lighter tone of both Classic Trek and TNG, and even Voyager.

As far as being a Star Trek fan--I remember watching the show back in the day it originally aired--I didn't get to watch it much since, at least for the final seasons---was shown at 10 pm on Friday nights as I recall and my folks wouldn't usually let me stay up to see it--but when I really watched it-was in the 1970s when it aired each weekday around the time I got home from school.

I watched the animated series and loved it when they did the first Star Trek movie back in 1979. As a rule--I almost invariably saw the movies on the day they were released--the only one I did not see till sometime later--I was in the service and had been underway for a time-we pulled into San Juan, PR for a nice extended port call. Some of my shipmates and I boarded a city bus and went to a mall where they had a cineplex where we watched the film. I believe that was "Star Trek III :The Search for Spock."

[pasco_lol_cpl]

/\ Good points


This movie is built around Nimoy's involvment, so it's rather more than some appearances. He is absolutely integral to the plot.

None of the other cast are appearing, and Shatner isn't in because Kirk's dead in the timeframe of Nimoy's Spock.

Also, despite what some are saying, the movie is not a wholesale reboot, and is despite the cosmetic changes, is supposed to fit into the existing Star Trek universe. At least that's what the writers and the producer are saying. So it's a prequel, but not a reboot per se.
True about Nimoy being integral. I guess I didnt make that clear enough. As for this not being a reboot? You bet your bottom dollar it is. Think of the merchandising and tie ins and squeals or even (dare we say it) TV. The studios arent gonna dump this much money into the franchise after that disaster they call Nemesis unless they thought there was a future buck to be made. By rebooting the franchise (loving though it may be) they set up things for more money. Personally I'd be disappointed if it werent a reboot that remains true to the core stories. Think about it, they could build a new series based on TOS where each episode takes place inbetween the established episodes. That way they remain faithful while striking out in new ground at the same time.

[Nick_bi]

/\ Good points


True about Nimoy being integral. I guess I didnt make that clear enough. As for this not being a reboot? You bet your bottom dollar it is. Think of the merchandising and tie ins and squeals or even (dare we say it) TV. The studios arent gonna dump this much money into the franchise after that disaster they call Nemesis unless they thought there was a future buck to be made. By rebooting the franchise (loving though it may be) they set up things for more money. Personally I'd be disappointed if it werent a reboot that remains true to the core stories. Think about it, they could build a new series based on TOS where each episode takes place inbetween the established episodes. That way they remain faithful while striking out in new ground at the same time.
Ah, well I guess it depends on your definition of reboot then. So far everything I've heard says this fits within the existing universe (bar the obvious cosmetic changes). ;)

They're clearly retconning some things, but then Star Trek has been doing that to itself for decades, so I don't think it's a huge deal. Not yet anyway.

Either way, the only reason this movie is getting made at all, is because JJ Abrams wanted to make it. The suits had no interest in another movie, and wouldn't be throwing any money at it at all, if it wasn't for Abrams.

[Nick_bi]

Y'know, I've been lurking here for ages, and don't post much. Figures it'd take a Trek thread to bring me out of the closet. ;)

[chulainn2]

As far as the Enterprise is concerned, there is only one for me
NCC-1701

[BiGeek]

I found the trailer just what it's meant to be, a "teaser' However, nobody seems to be speculating on the potential plot, or cast for that matter. I would assume it's going to be the cast from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" since the latter movies featured that cast. I for one would love to see "Q" (John DeLancie) as a central character to the plot. That way they could do pretty much anything in regard to special effects. I've been saying that to close friends for quite some time now.

[pasco_lol_cpl]

I found the trailer just what it's meant to be, a "teaser' However, nobody seems to be speculating on the potential plot, or cast for that matter. I would assume it's going to be the cast from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" since the latter movies featured that cast. I for one would love to see "Q" (John DeLancie) as a central character to the plot. That way they could do pretty much anything in regard to special effects. I've been saying that to close friends for quite some time now.
Nope. The TNG line is dead (for now at least). This one will have a new Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Uhura...Q will not have anything to do with this movie.

[12voltman59]

I found the trailer just what it's meant to be, a "teaser' However, nobody seems to be speculating on the potential plot, or cast for that matter. I would assume it's going to be the cast from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" since the latter movies featured that cast. I for one would love to see "Q" (John DeLancie) as a central character to the plot. That way they could do pretty much anything in regard to special effects. I've been saying that to close friends for quite some time now.

If you go to the site and see the credits--the only actor from any previous incarnation of Trek is Nimoy---playing Spock---the basic storyline of the movie was widely discussed in the entertainment media and the media centered on Star Trek---and also--filming production has wrapped on the film and what is going on now is the post-production stuff like editing, CGI/SFX, scoring, composting and the like--which for a Sci-Fi film is 90 percent of the work such a film entails.

Some stories from the past on what is speculated to be the storyline--and listing the actors who were tapped to play the various characters.

http://trekweb.com/articles/2007/11/11/New-Star-Trek-Movie-Storyline-Details.shtml

http://trekweb.com/articles/2007/11/11/New-Star-Trek-Movie-Storyline-Details.shtml

An interview with "the two Spocks"
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Movie-News/Exclusive-Star-Trek/800037574

[HighEnergy]

My heart was gladdened when one of my kids wandered into the room because she heard "the original Star Trek music" and wanted to know what was up.

I was always impressed by what a morality play it was, and the diversity of the cast during the time of the cold war.

[vittoria]

Nope. The TNG line is dead (for now at least). This one will have a new Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Uhura...Q will not have anything to do with this movie.

Well... if you are a Trek fiend like I am, Q already existed...

There's a Star Trek novel called "Q Squared"... The cover shows both Q and Trelane...Trelane was either Q or a variant -- been so long since I read it... I dont have my computer... (using Cho's) I have all of the novels in my computer( :tong: )

Its only natural that Spock is at the forefront of this movie. Spock is the "bombdiggity"

[pasco_lol_cpl]

Well... if you are a Trek fiend like I am, Q already existed...

There's a Star Trek novel called "Q Squared"... The cover shows both Q and Trelane...Trelane was either Q or a variant -- been so long since I read it... I dont have my computer... (using Cho's) I have all of the novels in my computer( :tong: )

Its only natural that Spock is at the forefront of this movie. Spock is the "bombdiggity"I hear you. I thought the same prior to hearing about the book (which I cant find) :banghead:

[Nick_bi]

As far as the Enterprise is concerned, there is only one for me
NCC-1701
I used to think like that. These days I much prefer the old 1701-D. :)

I'd still rather see a good TNG movie to say goodbye to that cast, but ah well, different strokes I guess.

[diB4u]

Hmmm good trailer, i realised it was about time a new Trekkie film came out, so cant wait untill next year!!!

Woow!!!

Ah the X files film looks good, that hits English shores in August i believe.

:tongue:

[Nick_bi]

Ah the X files film looks good, that hits English shores in August i believe.

Aye, looking forward to that one as well. :)

[vittoria]

http://www.amazon.com/Q-Squared-Star-Trek-Next-Generation/dp/0671891510

The preceding is a link to Amazon.com where you can find the book Q Squared which describes the coorelation between Trelane and Q...

Here's a link to an eBooks site... if you have Microsoft Reader (which is a free download at a few free downloads site...) its only 4.50 (US)
http://ebooks.ebookmall.com/title/q-squared-david-ebooks.htm


Check out another funny Q based book... its titled "Q-in-Law"..

:)




I hear you. I thought the same prior to hearing about the book (which I cant find) :banghead:

[getsum83]

trekkies always stick together..new releases always welcome.... Never forget James T. Kirk....My hero...

[12voltman59]

Anyone going to ComicCon in San Diego next week??---from the preview show on G4 about it--it looks like it oughta be a cool show to go see.

[Nick_bi]

Did you see the new posters they've put up on the official site? Pretty cool, and very teasey. :)

[Doggie_Wood]

My understanding [from someone presumably on the inside of the scifiET field] is that the film actually will be, a *prequel*-So essentially we will be looking for the Enterprise crew, before the Enterprise exists [as the trailer hints]....


You are right. The Shatman has been specifically excluded from the film........

No kidding... If this is truely a prequel, Nimoy will do cameos with a lot of makeup to make him look younger (everyone knows that Vulcans can live for many hundreds of years)...... something they can't do with Shatner (besides, Willie boy would have to loose a gazillion pounds).

:doggie: