OK...I am breaking my pledge!!

[csrakate]

I just made this pledge to ignore the trolls but I am breaking it now because it seems our not so friendly troll, KarmaComa, has stepped over the line and I am not gonna sit here and take it! He has changed his profile once more and it goes as follows:

"Mostly vanilla. Not into hook ups, phone sex, cyber sex, and I'm not into closet cases either. I keep in shape or at least try to, love to ride my bike. You should be in good shape too. I'm not into fat/BBW at all or obese men. Race is not an issue. I'm not into stuck up whites who have issues and are super needy and who don't have a life like white women like CSRAKate on this site. I'm not a closet case and if you are I don't want to date/sleep with you and if you're cheating on someone just stay away."

This is the same person who has tortured us for months now...new names and new profiles but the same comments and the same insults! His posts are full of the same vitriol that we've heard from the other incarnations of this person....attacks on BBW's, what he refers to as "closet cases"....sermons about AIDS...anti female rants. Also, for a newbie, the familiarity of his comments shows that he's been here before...comments made to Mrs F when he named a friend of hers by name...to myself as a "white woman" although no where is it stated that I am even white not to mention that the person I believe it is also referred to me as needy and not having a life. I truly believe that this is a disgruntled former regular who, for whatever reason, feels a need to lash out at us all!

Drew...if you are anywhere to be found...I ask you to please do something about this menace. Surely there is a way to trace his ISP...some way to keep the same person from returning over and over and wreaking havoc in the forums. Darkeyes made a lovely post earlier and in that post, commented that the tone of this site has changed due to all the chaos. I agreed with her and stated that I would try to ignore the trolls and try to focus on the good instead of the bad but being added to his profile in that manner has tipped me over the edge. I don't want people who do not know me to get the wrong idea about me based on his comments nor do I want to continue to have to watch people that I care about get attacked for trying to share some heartfelt thoughts or witness anyone else being ridiculed for merely asking for some much needed advice.

I don't think I am alone when I say I am fed up with things as they are now. We want our site back and all I am asking for is some guidance on how to regain some control of the situation so that the rest of us can continue on as before...a community that is here for the support of one another.

Kate

[Doggie_Wood]

in his profile

Despite what certain people here can think about me I'm a nice guy.

Then prove is by not being such a snobby arrogent troll!

[vittoria]

Just joined...

31 posts in less than 48 hours....

:banghead:

[**Peg**]

kate.... I've seen lots of this kind of thing over the 10 years I've been chatting. I'm not telling you how to run your ship but I can tell you how I run mine. I've learned that multiposts by the same person are USUALLY abusive in some way or another, so if I see 3-4 posts from someone I don't know, I simply don't read them.

If that abusive person comes into the chatroom, I hit the iggy button. Recently I was accused of being a "dude" (*LOL*) because a troll pmmed me wanting......well I won't repeat what he said, so I told him to "get lost" (not my exact words, but my response was couched in lingo he would understand <grin>). Water off this ducks back honey.

one person in particular has been attacking me behind the scenes, in pm, to my friends. To identify that person would be to hand my personal power over to that person. But make no mistake, I am aware of it, and my dearest friend is as well. I refuse to respond, and keep the person on iggy.

try to ignore his baiting you kate... the abusers thrive on the responses. he doesn't know you well enough to know what a wonderful woman you are OR he DOES, and is impotent and in rage at himself because he knows he can never have you even as a friend.

sticks and stones may slow us down my friend...but don't let the person depress you.

your friend Peg

>>hugs<<

[csrakate]

You are so right Peg! I knew shortly after I made this thread that it was a mistake....that by letting him get to me to the point of lashing out only gave him the power over me. But seconds after posting it I saw the thread about HoneyPot and I got distracted by my grief and forgot to go back and delete it. Unfortunately it is now too late so my words remain forever in print! LOL! I was angry and hurt and I let his words get to me....but once again you are right...he doesn't know me and I don't know him...so what he says about me shouldn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things!

Just another lesson learned...and hopefully others can learn from my rash response....it's just not worth it to respond!!! LOL! I will gladly be the Poster Child for stupid moves and irrational reactions if it will set an example, albeit it a bad one, for others LOL!!!!!

<<<<takes a deep breath and hits her internal iggy button! LOL!>>>>

[jamieknyc]

Peg is right, you have to learn to ignore these people. Remember that by responding, you invite further attacks. When you start ignoring them, they will lose interest and go bother someone else.

[bearisbare]

I understand that responding to trolls can invite further attacks and people will have different opinions as to how to approach that subject. However, the very presence of the attacks and the inconsistency in which they are dealt with by the site is often enough to turn away not only those who have been here for a while but also those who are brand new to bisexual.com, read what they read and basically feel "what the fuck is this?"

Some of these people who have mass-posted have been totally removed from the site and you can't find any record of what they said. Others are allowed to remain in post form, if not in the ability to continue to post. As long as this place is more or less unmoderated, it is at the mercy of those who come in to attack individuals or spout opinions that are guaranteed to upset people. People often praise Drew for his work, and I know he still logs in. He should be praised for creating this space.

However, have you noticed he hasn't posted to the forums in six months? Sure, people get banned, but who actually bans them? I would love to see something from someone who manages this site to show proactively that they are in touch with those who use it. It seems like this site has lately been on auto-pilot. No one is doing anything about the layout of the homepage, with a feature article that has been around for 7 months and was asked by the author himself to be removed. The events space has something that is 10 weeks out of date. The 'Bi Web' cannot be updated. And so on...

This used to be a good place. Maybe it still could be so. Something, however, has got to change.

[12voltman59]

I take back what I said in the other post Kate--after reviewing the evidence---I think you are right---this person is just one more manifestation of our 'Sybil/drive by poster"-

This person may be a pain--but you have to hand it to him----he is a persistent little bugger-----and he certainly does have some mental problems to focus so intently upon this site----you do have to wonder with this person----how much is enough with him???

I do agree--the management of this site needs to put a stop to this person coming here---I do wish that they would take such action because it does make people reconsider whether they want to remain here if they are long time users and certainly would give pause to those who are new here as to whether or not they would remain here or not---this person likes to diss on people's posts and for those who are new here tying to figure things out---it could certainly scare them away---for those of us who have been here awhile---such posts do piss ya off and are an annoyance to be sure.

I have to add this as a Post Script to my comments here: thanks to our friend coming in under his numerous guises--it makes me highly circumspect of anyone who is new now--especially if they initially post up in rapid order a number of posts, no matter their content--and I don't like that--but I have to say--it makes me not be as trusting and accepting of new members as I was in the past----where I once gave them the benefit of the doubt--I now feel they have to "prove" that they are a new legitimate member--that is sad but true.

[rissababynta]

I'm glad someone started this thread before I did :-P

[**Peg**]

......<<<<takes a deep breath and hits her internal iggy button! LOL!>>>>

hey take it easy on my friend there wouldya?

and again, deepest condolences on the loss of your dear friend Huneypot.

>>hugs<<

Peg

[vittoria]

News flash!

Drew doesn't give a fuck about this site, or about anyone else here. He only appears to and just bans people who are deemed trolls and doesn't actually respond to any private messages he gets sent, emails, or suggestions for his site that is so poorly maintained.

Drew only cares about himself and he wants people to join his poorly run porn site to pay for horribly directed videos made by him. How do I know this? I was once a member on his porn site and it's not worth the money, and his bi porns are poorly done and directed with ugly actors compared to what's out there.

For those of you who actually believe that this site was really created out of "love" or whatever corny BS you think that it is, it wasn't. Stop deluding yourself that this site isn't a sex site.

Bisexual.com is a sex site plain and simple. If it's not a sex site, why are there personal ads? Why do people like Shameless and Rose and Cherokee Moutaincat writing about hooking up together? Same goes for Marie the transwoman who is a walking advertisement for gender dysphoria, and WanderingRichard who is a male whore hooked up? Jo69Guy, Flounder1967, and Flounder's fat wife all have had sex too and publically write about it. Why does Flounder show off his small cock in his pictures thinking it will help him get laid? Why aren't real trolls like welickit banned?

If y'all want yourselves and this site to become more a cult or a clique and let mob rule run your life and keep flaming people who you personally don't agree with go right ahead.

I can totally see why tons of people who used to post here aren't here anymore at all.

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE AND MOST PEOPLE ARE FULL OF SHIT.


Just joined the site this month and "knows" who people are and other stuff...

Another incarnation?

:banghead:

[csrakate]

News flash!

Drew doesn't give a fuck about this site, or about anyone else here. He only appears to and just bans people who are deemed trolls and doesn't actually respond to any private messages he gets sent, emails, or suggestions for his site that is so poorly maintained.

Drew only cares about himself and he wants people to join his poorly run porn site to pay for horribly directed videos made by him. How do I know this? I was once a member on his porn site and it's not worth the money, and his bi porns are poorly done and directed with ugly actors compared to what's out there.

For those of you who actually believe that this site was really created out of "love" or whatever corny BS you think that it is, it wasn't. Stop deluding yourself that this site isn't a sex site.

Bisexual.com is a sex site plain and simple. If it's not a sex site, why are there personal ads? Why do people like Shameless and Rose and Cherokee Moutaincat writing about hooking up together? Same goes for Marie the transwoman who is a walking advertisement for gender dysphoria, and WanderingRichard who is a male whore hooked up? Jo69Guy, Flounder1967, and Flounder's fat wife all have had sex too and publically write about it. Why does Flounder show off his small cock in his pictures thinking it will help him get laid? Why aren't real trolls like welickit banned?

If y'all want yourselves and this site to become more a cult or a clique and let mob rule run your life and keep flaming people who you personally don't agree with go right ahead.

I can totally see why tons of people who used to post here aren't here anymore at all.

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE AND MOST PEOPLE ARE FULL OF SHIT.



Then please explain why YOU are here? You don't want to "hook up", you have an obvious disdain for so called "sex sites" and you scoff at those of us who wish to regard it as a community. I just don't see what the appeal is to you except to cause trouble and insult people you don't even know considering you are such a "newbie". Hardly a way to meet new people as your profile states you wish to do.

[grayhound]

Ms Kate ..... Please don't let a lot of this stuff get to you. I have been on here for a bit, not posting much. I just wanted to let you know that, I personally, think you are a lovely young lady with good words for everyone. Don't let this person get to you hun.

[still_shy]

Kate,

I love ya sweetie. this jerk doesn't deserve the pleasure of knowing you and thanks to his/her rude comments, won't ever know you. I think you are a wonderful person :) And a heck of a great writer :) Don't let them get you down

[chook]

Then please explain why YOU are here? You don't want to "hook up", you have an obvious disdain for so called "sex sites" and you scoff at those of us who wish to regard it as a community. I just don't see what the appeal is to you except to cause trouble and insult people you don't even know considering you are such a "newbie". Hardly a way to meet new people as your profile states you wish to do.

Hay Kate I somehow think this Jude bloke is our troll, after all wasn't cuntlapper against sex site and didn't know what the hell he was talking about? And this bloke is full of the same verbal diarrhoea. And I reckon it is no more transgendered than I am.

Cheers Chook :bigrin:

[csrakate]

Hay Kate I somehow think this Jude bloke is our troll, after all wasn't cuntlapper against sex site and didn't know what the hell he was talking about? And this bloke is full of the same verbal diarrhoea. And I reckon it is no more transgendered than I am.

Cheers Chook :bigrin:

I totally agree, chook. Our troll is spreading him/herself mighty thin here lately and beginning to repeat him/herself in comments posted to the forum and items in their "profiles". I am anxiously awaiting the day that they post as one incarnation by accident under the wrong name....or maybe next time they will return as a black, hispanic, transgendered, highly intelligent, good looking, businessman/lawyer who is also a bisexual female/homosexual male who is often accused of being blunt but is really a nice person. BUT...one thing they have forgotten to do a time or two is to make sure they don't list themselves as being from California early on before they go back and alter their profile and choose a new location! And it amazes me how many of them state in their "profile" that they don't like BBW's, closet cases, cheaters, and "hooking up". LOL!!! Oh what a tangled web we weave!!! All I know is it has to stop!

Hugs,
Kate

[Doggie_Wood]

News flash!
.................Why do people like Shameless and Rose and Cherokee Moutaincat writing about hooking up together? .............


For a newbie, doesn't this accusation sound familiar??

:doggie:

[FerociousFeline]

The world doesn't operate on reality. It operates on the PERCEPTION of reality.

Therefore, those who choose to interpret this site and it's contents (regardless of what intent the site originally had) as a community will do so, and thereby MAKE it so.

Likewise, those who come here because the site is free, more or less self regulated and need something to spank to, .....will ALSO ....do so.

If you have an ant problem there are two ways of dealing with it. One way, is to simply remove what the ants keep coming back for.

The other way is to learn to live with ants.

We cannot have it both ways.

As for being a radically inclusive environment, well, radically inclusive includes the lowest forms of life that have a desire to come here.



My advice, just ignore those who have used the site to masterbate with to the point where oogling the pictures and getting their cheap thrills no longer gets them off anymore. When that happens they will attempt to USE other members to appease their incredible frustration and self hatred regarding their apparent lack of ability to do anything inside of their lives to change that pattern. Their goal is to make you as miserable as they are.

Maintain your community standards, and don't fight those who intentionally repeatedly ignore the standards to which this virtual community adheres.
Just don't engage them. Eventually, they will realize that they'd have more fun going to a feminist site or a religious site or something else that will take them away from us.

Hope this helps.

[FalconAngel]

Actually no I'm not a troll. I'm not from CA either. I am Transsexual and what's wrong with that?

Nothing is wrong with that, but you are blasting nearly everyone on the site, which is behavior just like a troll.

So, if not a troll, then why are you so angry at everyone here?

Who, on this site, went out of their way to insult you so badly that you are so full of hate for almost everyone here?

There are quite a few Trans persons on this site, and none of them have reacted to the things posted the way you have, except when some individuals have inadvertently used some of the more derisive words to refer to Trans persons.

The vast majority of us have either never used them or only used them out of ignorance (which was quickly corrected), so why are you so angry at everyone here?

Do you not feel included?
Well, that takes time and effort, no matter where you are; real life or online communities.

Not to speak for everyone here, but the anger that you are harboring for so many people and the acidic way that you have posted is indicative of behavior that we reserve for trolls.

So if you are not a troll, then where is this apparently misdirected anger for everyone here coming from?

Maybe if you talked it out, we can help.

[nicco413]

I think it is a hormonal thing!
I am not sexist I am bisexual and very proud to be so and this site is full of people like me and their partners-normally straight- who have come to terms with bisexuality, often they have discovered, after years of suppression that they too are bi-like my wife of 34 years who is now eager to find her person to love of the same sex.
I believe that we are all naturally bi by nature just that some never come to terms with it,
Nicco

[Hephaestion]

I am sure that all here recognise that simpletons and kids get kicks out of ringing doorbells and then running away to 'safely' watch the upset that they cause. As poor sad souls that have nothing else in life, they are simply craving attention - running from their empty lives?

That is the socialogical introduction so now for the 'piece de resitance'. A neighbour's cat took great delight in doing just that - ringing the doorebll and running away until one day, purely by chance, I saw it and rapped on the window to attract its attention. Then it stopped. I would swear it was grinning sheepishly at me when it was found out.

Another moggy knew that fiddling with the door lock caused the door to open. So it used to sit on the adjacent sill trying to use its claws to that effect.

How about baiting the dogs by dangling a tail just out of their reach so driving them into a cartoon frenzy? The dogs soon learnt to just watch quietly until one day that cat got the fright of its life. Perhaps this last is didactic?

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Atta girl Kate.
Hugz Sweetie. See ya soon in chat..
Ya'lls Cat