Cripes! The old double standard.

[bisexualinsocal]

What's the reason for this? In swing clubs and in public. Male bisexuality is not accepted yet female bisexuality is encouraged.

[shameless agitator]

Because straight men get off on seeing 2 women.

[MarieDelta]

The same reason you see FF porn made for straight men.

:flag3::female::flag3:

[BiphobiaFighter]

A female bi friend of mine used to (and probably still does) love gay porn. I've heard that it's common for women to like the idea of two (or more!) men together but I've also heard the opposite.

[MarieDelta]

A female bi friend of mine used to (and probably still does) love gay porn. I've heard that it's common for women to like the idea of two (or more!) men together but I've also heard the opposite.


Its not unusual for women to like that. but its not (yet ) a market driving factor the way FF porn for staight guys is. Straight men have the jobs(and the interest) to drive the market.

[nothings5d]

its not (yet ) a market driving factor the way FF porn for staight guys is. Straight men have the jobs(and the interest) to drive the market.

That's because, according to statistics, a very big majority of the people who buy porn, at least in terms of units sold, are men. Which in itself is because society has labeled buying porn as something men should do and women shouldn't. Think about how long after Playboy started as a magazine that Playgirl came out. Playboy was in '53, Playgirl was in '73. As a society we view men as crude and women as pure, therefore men buy porn and women don't.:rolleyes:

[FerociousFeline]

What?! What do you mean that straight men are seriously into FF porn?

She said she destroyed those tapes! Dammit!~

<g>

FF

[MarieDelta]

What?! What do you mean that straight men are seriously into FF porn?

She said she destroyed those tapes! Dammit!~

<g>

FF

Yeah, they're trying to learn how to please a woman. The rest of us just watch with wonder in our eyes... LOL

I hear they're being archived at the Kinesy Institute - something about historical record?:tongue:

[TheBisexualProfessor]

Deeply primitive and genetic, I think. The libido of the male is constructed to inseminate as many females as possible for the sake of the preservation of the species. Males inseminating males didn't accomplish the genetic goal and was "ruled out" psychologically--at least in the majority of cases. If I had to guess, I'd say it wasn't so strongly and genetically discouraged among the females because it didn't really get in the way of their reproducing. But that's nothing more than an anthropological answer.

[bibliss]

I once spoke to the operator of a very famous swing party house about bisexual men at his club. He spoke pretty candidly that it's really just about the numbers. Ninety percent of couples who come to his club are seeking women. Only about 10 percent of couples are looking for men, and the majority of those are looking for straight men to engage with the woman sexually (i.e., no desire for man-to-man contact). That leaves a very small fraction of some percentage of couples who are interested in connecting with men for the purpose of bisexual men play. Now, if women ran swinging establishments, perhaps it would be different!

Speaking for myself, some of the hottest, sexiest, most enjoyable experiences I've ever had sexually involved bisexuality in *both* men and women. There's something incredibly exciting about men and women gathering to be with their same gender together! <sigh>... oh well, maybe in a few decades!

[ziggybabie]

That's because, according to statistics, a very big majority of the people who buy porn, at least in terms of units sold, are men. Which in itself is because society has labeled buying porn as something men should do and women shouldn't. Think about how long after Playboy started as a magazine that Playgirl came out. Playboy was in '53, Playgirl was in '73. As a society we view men as crude and women as pure, therefore men buy porn and women don't.:rolleyes:

Yeah, and add to the fact that because of these roles attached, women have much more to lose by being seen as "crude" or as sexually carefree as men. I don't want to sound cliche or like a broken record, but everyone knows the one about women being "sluts", but guys being "pimps" for the same thing. This defensiveness and inhibition, where women judge differently than men, i think somewhat comes from being in a male dominated society, where women are more often objectified. And these same men will also judge them as sluts just for doing the same things they brag about to their dumbass buddies. Women are becoming more visible in job markets and whatnot, so as things continue to change, and a bit more women are in charge, maybe attitudes will slowly be more enlightened.

About the double standard for M/F bisexuality.....it's fucking retarded. A lot of the guys who "encourage" female bisexuality, but act so macho in their attitude about "fags" don't respect the women, anyway. They're retarded macho male stereotype assholes whose mother should have swallowed. And if you support "homosexual acts" when it turns you on, but lambaste others, you only sound like a fucking idiot and a hypocrite to anyone with half a functioning brain.

[*pan*]

has to do with the straight male homophobia thing, most straight males are scared of their sexuality changing, to them this is worst then death it self they wonder through life with macho attitudes and proving they are alpha males, but f on f is accepted because it's not considered a threat to their sexuality. bisexuality is not accepted by them and is a threat to them because it makes them ponder the thoughts of m on m sex, they are scared to even think or consider it, hence homophobia, phobia meaning extreemly scared,
Homophobia (from Greek: ὁμο homo[sexual], "same, equal" + φοβία [phobia], "fear") is a non-clinical term[3] used to describe the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals[4] and several dictionaries characterize this type of fear as irrational.[5][6][7] It can also mean hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexuals, or homosexual behavior or cultures.[8] Homophobic is the adjective form of this term used to describe the qualities of these characteristics while homophobe is the noun form given as a title to individuals with "homophobic" characteristics.

with that said i believe straight males are a contradiction in terms, how can one be so macho, so tough, yet be scared all the time, lol

[Germanicus]

Cripes! Its a long time since I've heard that word used

[someotherguy]

What's the reason for this? In swing clubs and in public. Male bisexuality is not accepted yet female bisexuality is encouraged.

It is because straight male sexuality is defined by how not-gay the man is.

[jem_is_bi]

I don't like that attitude applied to me.
But, I can still have great sex in spite of their disapproval.
WOW! I know how to have fun!

Should I feel bad because they disapprove?
Or, should I feel bad because I can't have sex with every woman I want to fuck and man I want to suck?

For me the answer is not while I have got what I need. :)

Besides, We all have kinky, contradictory aspects to our likes and dislikes. So, straight people can be a little weird about sex. Well, so can I and I bet you can too and you know how muck you like it that way!!

JEM