View Full Version : will you still love me tomorrow ( hiv /aids and your partner )
Long Duck Dong
Dec 13, 2007, 3:27 AM
with all the *hype* about the dangers of unsafe sex and the risk of hiv/aids.... and yeah the posting about the issues of hiv aids.....I often ponder one question
if my partner turned around to me and said * hun I have hiv / aids * how would I react ??
I am a single male so the odds of me striking this issue is very remote...but thats not to say that it may not happen
in most of my past relationships, my reaction to things has been * shit happens, I love you *.. and its included things like STD, cheating, polyarmorous stuff and other bits and pieces
so I have to ask myself.... would my reaction be the same to hiv / aids ??
incredibly... the answer would be yes...I will love you tomorrow and the day after and the today after that....and no... I am not gonna worry about safe sex
many of the people that I run that by, call me a idiot......and tell me that I am being stupid.... just cos my partner has hiv/aids, doesn't mean that I have it and if I use safe sex, I will outlive my partner and have the chance to have a long life and possibly fall in love again....
read that statement slowly, then imagine saying that to ya partner.....
" hun, yeah I love you.... but I wanna use safe sex....cos I wanna not risk my life and my health ...and I have the chance to fall in love again after you die "
as far as I know.... they haven't discovered the fountain of youth.....so the odds of my living forever are pretty slim...
but the true issue... is how much do I love my partner.....
enuf to plan my life after them ?
enuf to consider my own health and my future ?
enuf to say fuck the risk and the future... hun, I love you.... for better or for worse ?
sadly, to me it appears like a lot of the * i love you * statements are now conditional...... and * i love you * has clauses....
out of about 28 people I spoke to about their reaction to their partner having hiv / aids.... 26 said they would either use safe sex or walk.......
2 people said.... omg what if it was me that gave it to them.....and those 2 people also said..... we would not change a thing..... life is one thing.... love in another.....we would rather love with the last of our life.... than live without the love of the one we love
I am curious what others would react......in that situation
I am curious as to how many people could honestly say that they would not change a thing..... and risk everything for the one they love
and how many would immediately change their ways of life and sexual connection, to ensure that they can continue on in the future....
darkeyes
Dec 13, 2007, 4:59 AM
Ansa simple 2 me duckie an don need 2 b long winded bout it.. wud luff er till cows cum home... don matta wot... aint summat a lil thing like HIV/Aids can turn off.. an if it did? Well aint luff is it?? Wud mean me been lying 2 meself an er for a long long time... 1 thing me knows..bout that.. aint bein tellin no fibs..
Delilah
Dec 13, 2007, 1:41 PM
There is no question about it. I wouldn't even ponder wondering. The man I am in love with who I cherish and who is my life tells me that he has HIV? I can't walk away from him. He is my treasure and the sole purpose of living on this planet. He is my mate for life and I will never walk away from him nor will I change our intimacy. No, absolutely not.
brunette
Dec 13, 2007, 1:58 PM
this is really hard for me. i'm 23 years old with a daughter. if my husband told me he was hiv positive, then we would definitely start using protection 100% of the time. but i wouldn't leave him.
and it's not that i don't love him, nor would i be looking forward to a future without him, but my daughter needs her parents. and on top of that, what's to say that he won't die tomorrow in a car wreck and then my toddler is left with only one-now hiv positive-parent. when you have kids, there's a lot more to live for than your significant other.
and, even if we didn't have a kid, i'm a complete and total wuss when it comes to being sick. and measure on top of that hospital bills, prescription costs, and time away from work...let's just say that toward the end of their lives, people with aids don't have an easy time. and their families and friends are left mourning. i wouldn't knowingly do that to the people i love, especially if the only thing that i'm giving up is condom-less sex.
shameless agitator
Dec 13, 2007, 2:15 PM
this is really hard for me. i'm 23 years old with a daughter. if my husband told me he was hiv positive, then we would definitely start using protection 100% of the time. but i wouldn't leave him.
and it's not that i don't love him, nor would i be looking forward to a future without him, but my daughter needs her parents. and on top of that, what's to say that he won't die tomorrow in a car wreck and then my toddler is left with only one-now hiv positive-parent. when you have kids, there's a lot more to live for than your significant other.
and, even if we didn't have a kid, i'm a complete and total wuss when it comes to being sick. and measure on top of that hospital bills, prescription costs, and time away from work...let's just say that toward the end of their lives, people with aids don't have an easy time. and their families and friends are left mourning. i wouldn't knowingly do that to the people i love, especially if the only thing that i'm giving up is condom-less sex.I'm with you. Plus of course, He's going to need you healthy if you plan on taking care of him when thing get ugly. I know if I was the one who was pos I would absolutely insist on protecting my partner.
heaveng87
Dec 13, 2007, 3:53 PM
To tell you the truth I can't live without my hubby now so the answer to your question is no I wouldn't change a thing. The words "I LOVE YOU" means I love you to me and I wouldn't give up having sex with him if he had hiv/aids.
If I stopped having sex with him just because he had hiv/aids then that means I would probably be cheating on him to get sex and that would leave him just jacking off. That wouldn't be right no matter who you are. No matter if your partner has hiv/aids cheating is still cheating.
If you just walked out on your partner during the time that they really need you most then you aren't worth their love to begin with. Your partner needs love and support not someone who is going to walk out on them.
Like you said having safe sex with your partner when they have hiv/aids may work for some people but for me that just means "I'm saying I Love you but deep down I don't really care enough about you to risk my life for you!" That isn't right loving someone is loving them no matter what stands in the way.
shameless agitator
Dec 13, 2007, 4:12 PM
Like you said having safe sex with your partner when they have hiv/aids may work for some people but for me that just means "I'm saying I Love you but deep down I don't really care enough about you to risk my life for you!" That isn't right loving someone is loving them no matter what stands in the way.But how are you supposed to take care of them if you're as sick as they are? Don't y'all think your partner is going to feel guilty if they wind up infecting you? Not attacking anybody, just food for thought.
DiamondDog
Dec 13, 2007, 4:31 PM
But how are you supposed to take care of them if you're as sick as they are? Don't y'all think your partner is going to feel guilty if they wind up infecting you? Not attacking anybody, just food for thought.
That's a very good point.
If I had a partner who was HIV+ I'd end the relationship as I'm not a bug chaser, I don't have a death wish, and having safer sex with an HIV+ person while it does work it would be VERY nerve wracking to me and I'd worry about them eventually infecting me or one/both of us slipping up and me becoming HIV+. I'd end the relationship and get tested, possibly go on PEP if it wasn't too late, and continue to use safer sex practises as I don't want to wind up HIV+.
If I had a Poz partner, I wouldn't want to become Poz with them since I don't have a death wish and I'm not a bug chaser.
I've seen relationships where one person becomes HIV+ for the benefit of their partner and the relationship just crumbles and a formerly HIV- person is now stuck with a horrible disease.
If I were/became HIV+ I wouldn't stay in a relationship with someone that is HIV-, and instead I'd get into a relationship with someone that's also poz, and I'd go on medications. I'd also continue to use condoms and safer sex practises.
I think it's REALLY silly and dangerous how people compare being HIV+ and on meds to being diabetic as you can't compare the two and while they have made great advancements in medications for HIV/AIDS it's not like being diabetic.
Just because you're poz it doesn't mean that you can bareback and have a big free for all without condoms as you can get re infected with HIV and you can get infected with other STDs that can weaken your immune system. Despite what you see in bareback porn how it's a big free for all of fucking without condoms, taking multiple loads, swallowing, felching cum out of an ass/vagina, and things like this it's really not that way in reality for HIV+ people unless they want to get reinfected with HIV or get other STDs that will hurt their compromised immune system.
I know HIV+ people who simply refuse to get into relationships/date or even have sex with HIV- people and that's because they don't want to infect or risk infecting someone who's HIV-.
the mage
Dec 13, 2007, 5:32 PM
Love will not die with the use of condoms.
AIDS will get you both without them.
Here's a reality check given that most live in north America. (or 1st world)
Yes you will live a long long time with HIV in N.A.
Life expectancy of a person diagnosed today is 39.8 years.
But you will live in poverty and pain.
It costs 1 million dollars to keep you alive. It hurts too. A lot.
Here in Canada its not an issue, you get to live, in poverty, but you qualify for help with drugs from the government no matter your situation.
Not in the US.. you go on waiting lists unless you are wealthy...
It is now known that 2 HIV poz persons can have unprotected sex without real worry of "super-infection' as its was known. Ther ARE multi-drug resistant virus strains out there for sure, but it's now understood that except in VERY RARE CASES the poz can play together without harm of HIV,, not other bugs though. The multi drug resistant strains are present mostly in the intravenous drug users...
I Repeat here now.. PLAY SAFE unsafe play does still kill, its just slower and more expensive to die...
brunette
Dec 13, 2007, 7:15 PM
the other issue is whether or not my partner was aware of being hiv poz before having sex with me.
if he cheated on me and got it and then told me immediately, we might be able to work out those issues that made him cheat. and we would start using a condom.
if he knowingly put me at risk without my prior approval...well, i'll love him in spite of "reckless endangerment" charges. that, i think, is a kind of murder.
diB4u
Dec 13, 2007, 8:27 PM
If my lover came and told me that they had contracted HiV/Aids then ( as long as I've not had sex with them unprotected) then I would stand by that person.
If the person was cheating on me and then told me, I'd panic- especially if my own health and life was at risk.
the mage
Dec 14, 2007, 8:33 AM
If my lover came and told me that they had contracted HiV/Aids then ( as long as I've not had sex with them unprotected) then I would stand by that person.
If the person was cheating on me and then told me, I'd panic- especially if my own health and life was at risk.
Well, my friend you have just stated a reality that is ignored.
The very first real life reaction to a diagnosis is full on panic.
That is why responsible people (like health clinics) offer pre and post test council, but insurance companies and immigration offices don't. Imagine being at home in the kitchen when immigration phones and leaves a fucking message on the phone to who ever answers that person X has HIV and their application is rejected...It happens.
In a married couple the first question of course is "Do we both die now?"
Imagine the terror. Imagine the guilt. The tears.
PLAY SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
cliffml
Dec 14, 2007, 11:05 AM
Being a man in a relationship for the past 6 months with another man (we've had both protected and unprotected sex with each other) I would stand by him. He's had alot more sexual encounters with men than I have (mostly unprotected) which he told me about before we stoped using condoms. We are truly in love and happy. My love for him would never stop no matter what health problems ever came up.
liquidcandycain
Dec 14, 2007, 10:39 PM
well...
I love my husband dearly and can't imagine being without him if he was to tell me he was hiv+ I would start having protected sex with him after I went and got checked myself but me saying "i want to start using protection" doesnt mean I dont love him when we got married we said till death do us part but that doesnt mean we have to die of the same thing... I would be with him EVERY step of the way never thinking twice about it but that doesnt mean I want to risk giving myself hiv and that street runs two ways. if I came home and told my husband I was hiv+ there is no way in hell that I would allow him to have unprotected sex with me. I love him just as much as he loves me and I could not imagine giving him a terminal illness just cause I have one. I would want him to live on and even find another woman one day but I dont want him to live longer than me and not only would it be hard to find someone else to be happy with if he had hiv but he would also be in and out of the hospital and I would not want to die knowing I messed up the rest of his life because I was careless one night and messed up mine. So yes I would start using protection but I would not leave his side for one moment while he was ill.