Has anyone experiences "Shadow People" ?

[deletetacount123]

Ive been reading about them lately due to experiences Ive been having... turns out Shadow People are REAL and its not uncommon.

Ive been wondering if anyone else has ever experienced these??

[redheadhoneycat]

Hi explain what ya mean.....not really sure what your talking about? Hope you are having a great weekend!!!!!!!:)

[deletetacount123]

Here are some Links I found about them:

The Offical ShadowPoeple Page: http://www.shadowpeople.org/

The Shadow People: http://www.shamans-cave.com/The_Shadow_People.html

Shadow People: http://www.mysticalblaze.com/GhostsShadow.htm

[Skater Boy]

Mmm, have you been getting enough sleep, Tasha? :bigrin:

[deletetacount123]

Mmm, have you been getting enough sleep, Tasha? :bigrin:

I don't expect people to believe but I believe in the paranormal so these things do happen.
And yes I have been getting enough sleep.

[domill]

From the shadowpeople.org website
"Shadow People, also known as Shadow Folk, are usually attracted to one person or location for unknown reasons. Often they are seen as dark silhouettes of human-shape, generally male, that prefer to watch someone unseen and flee the moment they are noticed."

Tasha, I'm afraid to say that if you've experienced this, your neighbour is probably stalking you at night. :bigrin:

[deletetacount123]

From the shadowpeople.org website
"Shadow People, also known as Shadow Folk, are usually attracted to one person or location for unknown reasons. Often they are seen as dark silhouettes of human-shape, generally male, that prefer to watch someone unseen and flee the moment they are noticed."

Tasha, I'm afraid to say that if you've experienced this, your neighbour is probably stalking you at night. :bigrin:

Nope. -- Shadow People are fed on negative engery actually.... very common around people who are depressed.

[AdamKadmon43]

Yes.... I believe in Shadow People.

But then, I also believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and the Good Tooth Fairy.

[HighEnergy]

Yes Tasha, there are shadow people and ghosts. I've seen both. I believe, only in my own quirky mind, that the ghosts that have full colour are ok folks to have around, but the dark ones are just that, dark. Sometimes I see ghosts, sometimes I feel them, and sometimes I smell them.

I have my houses blessed, and have the negative energies sent away. We had a house that I hated. There were areas in the house that I saw/felt an evil chill. Even the bloodhound wouldn't go into certain corners, but sit and growl at them. The ex thought the dog and I were insane. We thought him obtuse. I had like minded friends over and we said prayers of cleansing and blessed the house and it stopped. Even the dog was happier.

Feel free to pm me if you'd like to discuss this further.

[Skater Boy]

Yes.... I believe in Shadow People.

But then, I also believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and the Good Tooth Fairy.

Don't forget Pixies and Elves, Adam. They are SOOOOO real!

[coyotedude]

(To everyone other than Tasha: If you find talk about spirits or ghosts to be loony, then move on to the next thread. Or not, it's your choice -- but don't say you weren't warned!)

Yes, Tasha, I do believe in spirits. That's a big part of my particular religion.

I will warn you, however, to be extremely careful when talking about them, particularly when they are dark (negative, if you will). Spirits have power, and you do not want to call in something you aren't prepared to handle. And if you already have something dark hanging around, you don't want to feed it and give it any more power than it already has.

Peace

[Sarasvati]

"They are your real self, that person within yourself that you like to keep hidden, that you never meet and never recognise, that you would not countenance and from which you would flee if they cried out your name.

Do they reveal themselves on death? I don't know.

Stay in the light, close your books, put sugar in your drinks."

Quoted from an ancient source on the subject

[deletetacount123]

(To everyone other than Tasha: If you find talk about spirits or ghosts to be loony, then move on to the next thread. Or not, it's your choice -- but don't say you weren't warned!)

Yes, Tasha, I do believe in spirits. That's a big part of my particular religion.

I will warn you, however, to be extremely careful when talking about them, particularly when they are dark (negative, if you will). Spirits have power, and you do not want to call in something you aren't prepared to handle. And if you already have something dark hanging around, you don't want to feed it and give it any more power than it already has.

Peace


I know.... :( Im not sure what else to call them....

(edited to talk in PM with Coyote)
Tasha

[coyotedude]

Tasha, mind if I PM you? Not sure a public forum is quite the right place for this kind of discussion.... :)

Peace

[mistymockingbird]

I've never had any experiences with shadow people but I've had other paranormal experiences. I'm sensitive that way. I've got some ghost stories that will send chills down your spine.

[deletetacount123]

Tasha, mind if I PM you? Not sure a public forum is quite the right place for this kind of discussion.... :)

Peace

YOU may PM me :)

(doesn't like the 60 second wait between posts.... but its nice to know I type to fast lol)

[deletetacount123]

Do share :) PM me too if you would rather share that way Misty :)

[Skater Boy]

Ya, no offense intended Tasha. I'm not a COMPLETE sceptic.

Its happened 6 or 7 times now that I've reached for my dictionary to look up a word, and the very first page that opens is the EXACT page featuring the word I'm looking for. "Coincidence" you might say. But when there's about 300 pages in the dictionary, its a 1-in-300 chance, and its happened on 6 or 7 different occasions, as I said, then it makes you think.

I could also swear I saw a UFO once, and everyone said I was crazy, so I know how it feels...

[bohemian69]

Yes Tasha, there are plenty of people out there that have seen them too, myself included. The only problem is, if people do not understand what "Shadow People" are, they do not realize what they see, or they put it down as a trick of light, or 'not getting enough sleep'.
Although, when you do see a shadow person and you know what it is that you are "looking" at it can still be a little unnerving.

The supernatural is the natural not yet understood.

[DiamondDog]

I've heard and read about people on meth seeing them but that's after a few days without sleep!

[mn freak]

I've heard and read about people on meth seeing them but that's after a few days without sleep!

You don't have to go days without sleep. I saw rain on a clear night after 38 hours of no sleep. I'm behind you Tasha 100% . Too many things in this world can't be explained. I've seen a ghost once, I've seen 3 UFO's.


this is slightly off topic, but I think you may get my point.
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/WORLD/9511/tibet_pony/index.html


Tom

:flag3: :flag3: :flag3:

[Long Duck Dong]

lol shadow people..... big part of my life and world

shadow people are everywhere, and be careful if you believe that they are fed on negative energy..... thats like saying all asian people live on rice......

shadow people is a broad term......and often applied to beings that are anything but shadow people

in a lot of cases, the reason why they appear as shadows, is its the only way we notice them....if they require our attention...

I am retired now....but a few years ago...I used to teach people about spiritual things..... with a open mind.... cos most books and courses, teach you one persons opinion...but I am a firm believer, if what you believe to be true, is what is true for you....

if you wish to learn about shadow people.... then talk to them and listen with your dreams, mind and heart.....rather than your ears and eyes.... the human senses are not attuned to somethings...and often you can miss what is actually been expressed
when you read a site.... you are reading and believing what others want you to believe.......and what they are writing, is not always the truth....just their opinion on what they beleive to be the true

[AdamKadmon43]

Just when I thought that I had found a group of sane, rational, intelligent individuals that related to certain of life's little issues the same as I do...... they have to start in on all this bunch of insane, irrational, not real intelligent bunch of crap about ghosts and other such non-sense. What the hell is wrong with people???

Yes.... Agreed.... there are things in life that can not be explained by empiricism and rationality. But that does not necessarily imply that there are some sorts of super-natural explanations.

Maybe they are just desperate to believe in something that will explain away all of life's great mysteries, and I should go away and just let them believe it.

Or maybe they should stop taking so many prescription drugs.....

Adam

[chuck1124]

Last Halloween, I spent a night, searching for ghosts. The experiment was conducted bythe the Chester County Paranormal Society in a century old barn that has been converted into a theatre. It was very scientific, not just a bunch of folks around a weigie board. I'm a skeptic, but the eerie feeling of my experience was palpable. That was the first time I have ever heard of "Shadow People". But something cast a shadow and disappeared. If they are creatures of negative energy, there was certainly lots to feed on in that place I've lost a bit of my skepticism.

[AdamKadmon43]

I give up...

[Skater Boy]

Adam, I have to admit- I'm not really "a believer" myself. But try and keep an open mind... after all, there are some people who don't believe that the state of Bisexuality exists...

[Long Duck Dong]

adam, from your profile *"We first decide what we want to believe.... We then proceed to construct our arguments to support those beliefs *

people like me and coyote and tasha are open to the idea of things beyond the norm but according to you, we must be taking too many meds

then I will make the following statement *... you are just a asshole *.....
I base that on the opinion I have, that you insulted us..... so I read the remarks about the fact that our beliefs are a * bunch of insane, irrational, not real unintelligent bunch of crap *

from that, I clearly now can assume that you are a asshole.....

now shadow people may or may not exist, its hard to prove without the full scientific tools and skills.... so you are right.... we may be mentally misdirected.....

but you clearly exist, you did insult us and imply that we are insane, irrational, unintelligent and under the influence of excess meds.....
that is clear proof, that you are indeed a asshole

[Doggie_Wood]

Well - I used to conduct my own scientific experiments of sorts not knowing that that was what I was doing, thinking about it now, clear headed and in an unaltered state.

It seemed that the mind, fragile that it is and yet durable as the same time, when chemically induced states such as with cocaine and/or meth-amphetamines, the psyche becomes more, flexible if you will, and reacts more quickly and acutely to that which is unseen or un-seeable in the normal states of consciousness. And even some minds can produce chemical endorphins, when at certain emotionally heighten times, which allows the brain of psyche to also react to the presence of other dimensional entities. Are these the "Shadow People" we so often speak of? Maybe, maybe not!
I furtively believe that beings, entities, ghosts, paranormals or what ever other names that they may-have been dubbed, do exist here and now, thriving amounst us only on a different dimensional level or plane, sometimes coming so close to or crossing the threaded barriers as if projecting through a ripple or tear in the space continuum.
There were times when my mental and visual senses were so acute, so raw, so keen, that I beleived that I could actually see, even if only a glimpse for a meer fracion of a second, the shadow of the wind. Were these the "Shadow People"??/
That is the question, that someday or perhaps never, will be answered.

:doggie:

[ambi53mm]

Just when I thought that I had found a group of sane, rational, intelligent individuals that related to certain of life's little issues the same as I do...... they have to start in on all this bunch of insane, irrational, not real intelligent bunch of crap about ghosts and other such non-sense. What the hell is wrong with people???

Yes.... Agreed.... there are things in life that can not be explained by empiricism and rationality. But that does not necessarily imply that there are some sorts of super-natural explanations.

Maybe they are just desperate to believe in something that will explain away all of life's great mysteries, and I should go away and just let them believe it.

Or maybe they should stop taking so many prescription drugs.....

Adam

Ignorance is bliss....so enjoy the day...you're one day closer to discovering your truth.

Ambi:)

[Skater Boy]

Well - I used to conduct my own scientific experiments of sorts not knowing that that was what I was doing, thinking about it now, clear headed and in an unaltered state.

It seemed that the mind, fragile that it is and yet durable as the same time, when chemically induced states such as with cocaine and/or meth-amphetamines, the psyche becomes more, flexible if you will, and reacts more quickly and acutely to that which is unseen or un-seeable in the normal states of consciousness.

Heh, scientific experiments? Involving taking mind-altering substances? Thats a GREAT excuse, remind me to use that one next time I hit the Crystal Meth! :bigrin: No seriously, where do I sign up for a Diploma in Science... I thought it was all about analysing the relative atomic mass of Kryptonite particles and the likes. Looks like I had it all wrong...

[the mage]

Have you ever heard of "floaties"?

They are areas of dark that you see (sometimes) floating around in your vision.

Everyone has them and they increase as you age. They result from degeneration of your eyes.

They explain a lot of "shadow people". not all.

Personally I accept "6th sense" as a reality but dont believe in ghosts. I'm not against their existence mind you, I'd be quite happy if I could be convinced of an after life, but as it is I do not believe.

There are no answers people. Just as you'll never visualize the end of space and time you cannot explain your paranormal feelings. Do and believe as YOU need to remain sane.

[AdamKadmon43]

*... you are just a asshole *.....


No... I am AN asshole.

:tongue:

[Azrael]

Just when I thought that I had found a group of sane, rational, intelligent individuals that related to certain of life's little issues the same as I do...... they have to start in on all this bunch of insane, irrational, not real intelligent bunch of crap about ghosts and other such non-sense. What the hell is wrong with people???

Yes.... Agreed.... there are things in life that can not be explained by empiricism and rationality. But that does not necessarily imply that there are some sorts of super-natural explanations.

Maybe they are just desperate to believe in something that will explain away all of life's great mysteries, and I should go away and just let them believe it.

Or maybe they should stop taking so many prescription drugs.....

Adam

One does not have to be "crazy" to believe in matters of the spirit. My grandfather was a nuclear physicist and a roman catholic from birth to death.
I'm not going to bore you with where I've been and what I've seen, I'm keeping that for ME. As for my basic perspective, a pagan of sorts, sorta of pantheistic with a strong love of pure science. Enjoyed delving into the Hermetic teachings. But then, the man says I'm bipolar and autistic and need drugs to 'fix' my head. They think I'm taking 'em :bigrin:
Point is, don't knock it til you can (dis)prove it. Ain't that the basis of scientific rationalism?

[Azrael]

Have you ever heard of "floaties"?

They are areas of dark that you see (sometimes) floating around in your vision.

Everyone has them and they increase as you age. They result from degeneration of your eyes.

They explain a lot of "shadow people". not all.

Personally I accept "6th sense" as a reality but dont believe in ghosts. I'm not against their existence mind you, I'd be quite happy if I could be convinced of an after life, but as it is I do not believe.

There are no answers people. Just as you'll never visualize the end of space and time you cannot explain your paranormal feelings. Do and believe as YOU need to remain sane.
I had em before I ate all the hallucinogens.....

[mistymockingbird]

No... I am AN asshole.

:tongue:

Ah yes LDD,Adam is an ass, knows it, doesn't seem to care. Its part of his charm really. But you always know exactly where you stand with him. Which qualifies him as a keeper. :bigrin:

[AdamKadmon43]

Maybe I should tone down my rhetoric a bit (even if if freakin' kills me to do so).

I don't mind being a LITTLE insulting, but I guess I am being a LOT insulting.

:tongue: Adam

[mistymockingbird]

I never asked you to tone down the rhetoric. That's exactly what I like about you. I knew someone would call me crazy when I said I believed in ghosts. There was a story published about me and my experiences in a local paper a few years back. I ended up having to take all kinds of even crazier folks around my workplace because they wanted to go ghost hunting. :)

[AdamKadmon43]

We shall soon have all this mess straightened out !!!!

I have rang up GhostBusters and they will be out to investigate in due course.

:tongue: Adam

[Azrael]

We shall soon have all this mess straightened out !!!!

I have rang up GhostBusters and they will be out to investigate in due course.

:tongue: Adam

Game, set and match!
Well played, good sir ;)

[AdamKadmon43]

One does not have to be "crazy" to believe in matters of the spirit. My grandfather was a nuclear physicist and a roman catholic from birth to death.
Az

I did not mean to imply that belief in spirituality was somehow or other related to "crazy". If that were the case, then we should be obliged to lock up the vast majority of the human race.

And I do not think that there is anything incompatible with being a nuclear physicist and a roman catholic (unusual, perhaps, but not incompatible). As you well know, science and religion are two completely different aspects of the human experience, and despite the historically prevailing notion that they are in conflict with each other, I do not believe that they are. It is simply a matter of how one distributes one's epistemology. Science relies for the most part on observation of empirical evidence, and the rational deductions that can be derived from said evidence, and does not place any great emphasis on intuition. Whereas religion relies primarily on intuitive knowledge (faith if you will) with little regard for the other two forms of knowledge. The main problem I have with that is such a singular approach may lead to false conclusions. For example, purely empirical observation would lead one to conclude that the sun, indeed, does revolve about the earth.

A well-balanced person (which I obviously am not) could most certainly find a balance in all those sorts of things. I place the greater emphasis on empirical knowlege simply because it seems to be the one thing that we can get most people to agree upon. If you point out a tree, for example, and ask what it is, everyone no matter what their language or culture would have the same basic notion of a tree... It is when you ask what that tree means that things get very complex. There would be all sorts of disagreement as to what it meant.

I suppose that is why I allowed to get myself all twerked off and annoyed by all this "ghost" and "shadow people" business. People's brains are great chemical factories and all sorts of weird things can take place in there. Some of them are not always exactly connected to what is generally accepted as being reality. And furthermore, many things that we regard as paranormal experiences may have an actual basis in scientific fact that is simply yet undiscovered. The amazing field of Quantum Mechanics provides some excellent examples of such phenomena. Given the nature of molecular motion, there is some very slight, but not zero, probability that a kettle of water being heated over a fire could freeze into ice. And there is an equal probability that all of the molecules of air in this room could all rush into the same corner at the same time (and I do not want to be in here if that happens). Haven't you just always wanted to be a Quantum Mechanic?

Paranormal experieces are very interesting from the perspective that no two individuals can ever agree upon what it is that they have experienced. Which leads me to believe that it is something that we can not put a great deal of "faith" in.

As for the spirituality (as in religion) stuff, If I were inclined to want to believe in any of it, I would have not the slightest notion which one to choose. There are just too many choices available with, apparently, new ones being invented all the time. I shall remain content to profess my ignorance on the subject and admit that I simply do not know. And I honestly do not believe that anyone else does either, but I shall try to be respectful, and cease to criticize them, bless their little hearts.

As for the "don't knock it til you can (dis)prove it" .... you got me on that one bud. And that is why I like this forum.... I learn a great deal from people such as you.

I hope that helps to clarify some of my negativity on the subject.

Or maybe I am just jealous because I have never seen a ghost.

Adam

[Azrael]

Az

I did not mean to imply that belief in spirituality was somehow or other related to "crazy". If that were the case, then we should be obliged to lock up the vast majority of the human race.

And I do not think that there is anything incompatible with being a nuclear physicist and a roman catholic (unusual, perhaps, but not incompatible). As you well know, science and religion are two completely different aspects of the human experience, and despite the historically prevailing notion that they are in conflict with each other, I do not believe that they are. It is simply a matter of how one distributes one's epistemology. Science relies for the most part on observation of empirical evidence, and the rational deductions that can be derived from said evidence, and does not place any great emphasis on intuition. Whereas religion relies primarily on intuitive knowledge (faith if you will) with little regard for the other two forms of knowledge. The main problem I have with that is such a singular approach may lead to false conclusions. For example, purely empirical observation would lead one to conclude that the sun, indeed, does revolve about the earth.

A well-balanced person (which I obviously am not) could most certainly find a balance in all those sorts of things. I place the greater emphasis on empirical knowlege simply because it seems to be the one thing that we can get most people to agree upon. If you point out a tree, for example, and ask what it is, everyone no matter what their language or culture would have the same basic notion of a tree... It is when you ask what that tree means that things get very complex. There would be all sorts of disagreement as to what it meant.

I suppose that is why I allowed to get myself all twerked off and annoyed by all this "ghost" and "shadow people" business. People's brains are great chemical factories and all sorts of weird things can take place in there. Some of them are not always exactly connected to what is generally accepted as being reality. And furthermore, many things that we regard as paranormal experiences may have an actual basis in scientific fact that is simply yet undiscovered. The amazing field of Quantum Mechanics provides some excellent examples of such phenomena. Given the nature of molecular motion, there is some very slight, but not zero, probability that a kettle of water being heated over a fire could freeze into ice. And there is an equal probability that all of the molecules of air in this room could all rush into the same corner at the same time (and I do not want to be in here if that happens). Haven't you just always wanted to be a Quantum Mechanic?

Paranormal experieces are very interesting from the perspective that no two individuals can ever agree upon what it is that they have experienced. Which leads me to believe that it is something that we can not put a great deal of "faith" in.

As for the spirituality (as in religion) stuff, If I were inclined to want to believe in any of it, I would have not the slightest notion which one to choose. There are just too many choices available with, apparently, new ones being invented all the time. I shall remain content to profess my ignorance on the subject and admit that I simply do not know. And I honestly do not believe that anyone else does either, but I shall try to be respectful, and cease to criticize them, bless their little hearts.

As for the "don't knock it til you can (dis)prove it" .... you got me on that one bud. And that is why I like this forum.... I learn a great deal from people such as you.

I hope that helps to clarify some of my negativity on the subject.

Or maybe I am just jealous because I have never seen a ghost.

Adam
Where do these people get it in their heads that you're anything besides one of the cooler guys on here? I totally getcha, man.
One of these days, when I pass thru CO we're finishing this talk over a bottle of Lagavulin. You're a single malt man, yes?
I don't like to dwell on the shit I've done to my brain over the years, but it is a filter to my perception that I must consider when I'm analyzing what I think I see, hear or feel.

[Doggie_Wood]

Yes ScootieBoi - scientific experiments - experiments to strech the fabric of the mind and explore the unexplored. Back then, in that part of my life time I could call them scientific expriments. And it had nothing to do with Kryptonite or Lana Lane. However, some of my ancestors who visited long past relatives and "spirits" by using mind expanding substances, probably would have called them something similar had they had scientific studies. Which I beleive they did but called them something else.
Me thinks you are just envious because my answer is weirdly plausable and that my mind can still breach the fabric of reality to that of the undiscovered reality. Also, sometimes refered to as spiritality of another plane of existance. <hums the theme tune of The Twilight Zone>

:doggie:

[anne27]

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

I have seen things that my rational mind can't explain.

We had a house. It had a ghost. 3 people saw it on 3 separate occasions. I talked with the previous owner's daughter and she told me it was the spirit of her father, who died on the property while working.

I believe in things I see, and sometimes in things I can't see.

:2cents:

[godowntogether]

I have often could have sworn that I just seen someone standing near me only to find noone there when I look again, it happens in all different places and I am not sure what it means but whatever it is and it has to be something seems to be of no harm. I walk trails in the woods around here all the time and have wild animals deer, squirrels, groundhogs,etc come close to me and just look at me like they know I mean no harm but do not want to get any closer. The reason I bring up the animals is that when i'm walking trails I often see what can only be described as a shadowy form further do the trail even when there are no other shadows around.I dont know what any of this means but whenever I see this shadowy thing it seems like a good thing although a little scary.

[FalconAngel]

Fact is, there are creatures of light and creatures of shadow in this world. Not all that exists can be seen with the eyes.

I have experienced both and I can tell you that they do exist and not all things in the shadows are powers of darkness. It is the energy and intent of these entities that determines if they work for shadow or light......or even neither and both.

The universe is not made up of absolutes. As in our own sexualities, it is made up of many variations, shades and degrees.

[bigregory]

Only in sleep do i see dead people ( dreams )

[wanderingrichard]

Do share :) PM me too if you would rather share that way Misty :)

tasha,
hon, do contact that person i mentioned in PM.. she's waiting to hear from you..

also, do you have any First Nations folk near you that you trust and can talk to? they might be able to get you in touch with the truth..

Rich

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Ya know, perhaps its just me, but I was raised to be polite and not scoff at another person's beliefs, and to qoute the words of My generation: "Dont knock it till you've seen it for yourself" and "There are things in the world other that what lies in Your Philosophy"
Just because something does sound valid to You, doesnt mean that you have to ridicule Tasha, or make fun of her question.

She asked an open, honest question and many of you have done nothing but make jokes about her comment. And only a couple of you offered to answer her question with an open mind, and with any intellect.
Many religions teach of "Shadows, Spirits, and Night Shades" It has been documented in virtually Every religion ever taught, or practised. Why would this bring on such rebuke? Just because one cannot see the Greater Spirit doesnt mean he/she isnt there, why should seeing a Shade or Shadow be any different!? I am half T'salagi Cherokee, and I believe in a great many things, thing that arent taught in todays philosophy. Doesnt mean its wrong, just different in the ways You were taught.

Just because many of you, obviously, have Not experianced these events, does not give you the credance to make fun of her, or other cultures beliefs.
Like I said, I was taught to have more manners to run someone down for voicing an opinion, and taught to Respect another persons point of view.

Tasha, if you'd like to contact me directly, I have no problem in discussing this matter with you in an open, honest, enlightened light.
Mountaincat.

[Long Duck Dong]

many people read my profile and think * weirdo, freak, hippy * etc

what most people never see is that I am a certified web designer....I belong to mensa, I have a visual / material absorption rate thats in the top 2 % of the world ( it means that I can read 700 page books in 5-6 hours and recall sentences and paragraphs from anywhere in the book ) etc etc

but if people hear that I am open to the things beyond the explanation of modern science ( ghosts and shadow people ) people assume I am a nutcase or druggie )

what they do not see, is the years I have spent, researching the truth..... as a unbiased, neutral minded person......

when people write off things that are supernatural / paranormal ... they close the door on the possibilities of understanding and accepting

myself... I investigate and study things.....hence I can not more prove or disprove the presence of shadow people, than I can, prove or disprove the presence of god...... but I can sure as hell honestly attest to things that defy the ability of modern science, to explain away.....

I apply the same thing to bisexuality.... I can not measure it by medical science standards, I can not isolate it as a genetic trait or drug induced experience....... I can not examine the brain and find any proof of it......
but I can definately attest to the fact it exists.....

now what were people saying about shadow people not existing and just how do they come to that conclusion ???:tong::tong::tong::tong::tong:

[summereclypse]

Ok, Yes! I totally believe in "Shadow People" and Ghosts, UFOs, Angels, Fairies, and other "supernatural" things!

I used to work in a nursing home on the 11-7 shift and we had a "nurse" spirit that would help patients "pass over". If you "saw" her walk into a room, about an hour later the patient would be dead. She would walk into a room and you could follow her, and she'd be gone. There would be lights going on in empty rooms at all times of the day and night. We had our floors retiled, and the people came in and took up the tile, then laid down the new tile, and put the call lights up on the wall. The light in that room came on when it was closed up and when I looked in to see what happened, the call light was still on the wall. And no one had walked on the wet glue. Um, the hall that all the guys was on was soooo bad, I wouldn't walk down it with the lights off.... Kept getting that feeling of being watched and when I'd look at where the person had been standing, they would be gone and the people still in bed with their rails up. Damn, I got a lot of stories about ghosts and Shadow People..... :bigrin:

[Skater Boy]

Me thinks you are just envious because my answer is weirdly plausable and that my mind can still breach the fabric of reality to that of the undiscovered reality.

Envious, no. If you knew anything about me, you'd realize that my world is full of what could be considered by some as surrealities. The truth is that half of the time, they are simply manifestations created by my confused and tired mind. The other half of the time, there may be some substance to them. But, without giving too much away, I would gladly surrender my "surrealities" in order to live a simple, normal life. If you feel you have some "special power" then I congratulate you on it. Perhaps, at least, your "surrealities" serve some constrcutive purpose. Mine, I feel, often do not.

My post regarding the taking of illegal substances was meant with tongue in cheek. But in retrospect, I'd guess that most people will not venture as far as taking Crystal Meth just to experience the spirit world first hand.

[FerociousFeline]

LOL

Turning the sign on the front of Lucy's "Dr." Stand to: The Dr. is "IN".
(For those of you who like the Peanuts)


This is my forte. Let me know if you'd like to talk regarding this, I'm more than happy to offer my assistance. In general and in public I will state that yes, it is likely what you are experiencing is real, (provided you are rested and hydrated and fed and not taking drugs of any kind).

This can be a warm reassuring thing, or it can be a dark scary and frightening thing. My advice is make it the former, and never the latter. You have control over your personal space and can affirm or deny ANYTHING/ANYONE has the power to share space with you. Just be concious of what your choices are.

Spirits exist. Sometimes they get in our face. Sometimes they get in our ass.
(LOL) Yes, I mean what you think I mean. It's important to be selective about who/what you share energy with.

Don't be afraid. You are in control here.

oh, and lastly, the only way to "cure" your condition is to have an extended sexual experience with a qualified witchdr. <looking into distance in dramatic pose>

<g>

Hope this helps, get with me later if you want more info.



FF

[Doggie_Wood]

................. I'd guess that most people will not venture as far as taking Crystal Meth just to experience the spirit world first hand.

Allow me to clarify,


I used to conduct my own scientific experiments of sorts not knowing that that was what I was doing

yes I took the drugs to party, to feel free, to feel good, tochange the way I felt because I didn't like the way I felt and I wanted to get out of my skin.
Today, I can look back and call them "experiments" because in all actuality, that is exactly what they were. Experiments in slowly destroying myself.
Scoff if you wish, it makes no diff to me. I know where I am now, where I've been and the direction I am now headed, which I know to be spiritual.

I don't use mind altering or mood changing substances now and haven't for over 16 years. I have been set free from those shackles and my spiritual growth has allowed me to expand my beliefs, both tangible and non-tangible.

Respectfully - :doggie:

[Skater Boy]

Allow me to clarify,



yes I took the drugs to party, to feel free, to feel good, tochange the way I felt because I didn't like the way I felt and I wanted to get out of my skin.
Today, I can look back and call them "experiments" because in all actuality, that is exactly what they were. Experiments in slowly destroying myself.
Scoff if you wish, it makes no diff to me. I know where I am now, where I've been and the direction I am now headed, which I know to be spiritual.

I don't use mind altering or mood changing substances now and haven't for over 16 years. I have been set free from those shackles and my spiritual growth has allowed me to expand my beliefs, both tangible and non-tangible.

Respectfully - :doggie:

There was no "scoffing" intended, Doggie. In fact, judging from your post, we have a few things in common, even if we don't agree on the Supernatural aspect.

Respectfully,

SB

[coyotedude]

No... I am AN asshole.

:tongue:

At least, Adam, you are honest enough to acknowledge it!

Now if we can only work on your empathy.... Of course, empathy might make your brain explode. We wouldn't want that, now, would we? :tongue:

Peace

[coyotedude]

shadow people are everywhere, and be careful if you believe that they are fed on negative energy.....

Point taken, LDD. I interpreted "shadow people" as not being particularly friendly (in part from a couple of other comments made by Tasha about her particular situation). But if the term refers to spirits in general, well, that is different.

Still, the way I was taught was to be careful around spirits of any kind. We're a bit skittish about spirits traipsing willy nilly all over the place from hither and yon. What I was taught (and have found in my own experience) was that you never call in something that you're not prepared to send home when it was done. And if something isn't friendly, you certainly don't feed it.

Of course, different people have different teachings. I just go on what little I know (key word: "little").

Peace

[coyotedude]

And Adam and Skater:

If nothing else, look on this as an interesting exercise in anthropology.

Who knows - maybe you'll even learn something about how other people see the world!

(In other words: pay attention. You don't have to believe in our craziness to learn something useful.)

Peace

[Long Duck Dong]

lol no worries coyote

a lot of the trouble with books and sites, is that they give a opinion, that people read as fact
its a bit like diagnosing medical issues over the net....

me, I tend to keep a open mind.....shadow people to me are shadow people.... beings that appear in shadow form..... but exactly who they are and why they are there, differs from shadow to shadow.....and a website can't tell you if the shadow people you are seeing, are friendly or nasty, bystander or poltergeist

I have the opinion that science can not reveal or define everything.....and I love that.... cos some things need to be experienced and not explained away in scientific jargon

[coyotedude]

i agree with you, ldd!

[AdamKadmon43]

Who knows.......Maybe I will one day be fortunate enough to experience one of these alleged spirit things, and if I happen to be sober at that particular moment, my attitude may change. But I get this feeling that you gotta believe in 'em before you ever gonna get to see 'em.

In the mean time, (discretion being the better part of valor), I think that I shall cease to make any further comments on this subject, lest I be thought a troll or something.

Adam

[casio]

I have seen "Shadow People" my whole life. To me they are real. I have seen them in the forests where I played as a child and I have seen them in the cities where I lived and worked. I have even seen them during the war sitting near the wounded and mortally wounded. To my surprise some of my friends have seen them too. Call me crazy, nuts or whatever you want, but I know what I have seen.... I feel I am one of the lucky few who have had the experience.

[AdamKadmon43]

Jeesh... This is just totally fuckin' amazing.... What the hell is wrong with people ???

I know.. I know... I said that I would shut the fuck up about it, and I will try to do so.

But, REALLY .... Oh never mind.

[coyotedude]

Adam, my friend, the real question is:

What the hell's wrong with you?

For someone who touts reason over belief, you sure have one hell of a closed mind. And I'm not talking about your skepticism, but your lack of tolerance for other views. Hell, I've met right-wing evangelical Christians who display more tolerance and empathy for others than you do.

I'm not asking you to believe in spirits. Frankly, I don't give a damn if you believe in God or anything else. That's your deal and your life, and whatever works for you is fine by me.

But obviously the opposite is not true. What works for me and others is not fine by you. You go out of your way not to respect me and others who don't measure up to your own views.

You don't have to come in here and put down people who see the world differently from you. You choose to do that. You don't have to make snide and belittling remarks. You choose to do that.

You can be a skeptic or an atheist or whatever term you choose to describe yourself and still be respectful of other people with whom you disagree. Fact is, we believers need the challenges that non-believers such as yourself provide.

We could do without the attitude, however.

Peace

[DiamondDog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people

[DiamondDog]

We shall soon have all this mess straightened out !!!!

I have rang up GhostBusters and they will be out to investigate in due course.

:tongue: Adam

Who ya gonna call?

Where's the State Puffed Marshmallow man when you need him the most? :(