How!!! High is to High?

[sexybicplinwv]

The gas where we live is crazy :rotate: It is $3.09 a ((gal)) here :( How about where you live, Just asking :disgust:

[Solomon]

ours is $4.72 / gal to $4.90 / gal.... which would work out to about $4 something a gallon USD after the conversion from CAN

and we're in one of the cheapest places in Canada for gas

oh yes... and that's reg. gas

gas for fuel injected cars (most any car built after around 1985) shoots to about $5.20 / gal CAN or about $4.68 / gal USD

then again in Canada a bloody box of cereal is $10 - $15

so all you millionares out there, come an share ya money! :bigrin:

[Long Duck Dong]

lol here in new zealand, we buy gas by the litre.... a gallon is 3.7 litres so it works out to about $5.90 a gallon

its cigarettes that are the expensive thing here.... a packet of malboro 25's is $13.20 ...thats one packet, not a carton lol

[littlerayofsunshine]

Funny how we're going broke pickin pennies off the ground to fill up the tank, yet most oil companies had a double digit billion dollar surplus, I remember a time when gas was breaking the $2.30 dollar mark here and bush released oil from the federal reserve for party points, ahh the good ole days...Now as for smokes, the price here is mainly taxes collected for " Health care" cause smoking causes so many diseases and deaths, Yet.. funny thing.. Alcohol causes alot of deaths and diseases and irreparable damage, costs alot in health care, rehab, law enforcement pay, court fees, littering, jail costs and yet little tax on it. Hmmmm.... Maybe because drinking is more fun and looks sexier. The way I look at it, more people drink than smoke and if they (gov't)want revenue that have a giant avenue to go down.

[Cerealk]

Here its close to 1.30$ / liter, chances are we will see 2$/L soon this summer...

(thats like... 1.30 / L * 3 L/ gal = 3.9$/gal, or something like that)

[12voltman59]

I got gas in the morning on Thursday--it was $2.99--by the afternoon-$3.19 per gallon---

I guess the boat's gonna be a big yard ornament this summer!!!!!

Thank God I have my kayaks---at least I will be out on the water with them!!!

[coyotedude]

$3.41/gallon about 60 miles (100 km) south of Seattle as of last night. We tend to have higher gas prices than the rest of the US, although not as high as other parts of the world, obviously....

Peace

[fxd2250]

Just filled up here in nw TN...$2.89/gal for regular.

Amazing how we bitch about things locally only to find things can be much worse elsewhere.

[anne27]

Just put my kids in hock to fill up my tank this morning.

$2.83 a gallon for regular.

[arana]

Funny how we're going broke pickin pennies off the ground to fill up the tank, yet most oil companies had a double digit billion dollar surplus, I remember a time when gas was breaking the $2.30 dollar mark here and bush released oil from the federal reserve for party points, ahh the good ole days...Now as for smokes, the price here is mainly taxes collected for " Health care" cause smoking causes so many diseases and deaths, Yet.. funny thing.. Alcohol causes alot of deaths and diseases and irreparable damage, costs alot in health care, rehab, law enforcement pay, court fees, littering, jail costs and yet little tax on it. Hmmmm.... Maybe because drinking is more fun and looks sexier. The way I look at it, more people drink than smoke and if they (gov't)want revenue that have a giant avenue to go down.
Nice Sunshine, can I put you as my write in vote come election time? :tong:

Our gas ranges from around $3.20 to $3.41 but I haven't been out today yet.

That is really sad Volt, you're lucky you got it when you did.

Sol! I hope you at least have a car that gets good mileage for all that.

[Dagni]

Well it's cheap in Finland because we get gas from Russia, some economic benefits or whatever, so 1 litre is only 2 €, in Sweden is something more expensive, but in Monte Carlo....well,,,,you really need a fat pocket.

[tom_uk]

the uk and most of europe pay around £1.00 €1.46 per liter - $7.27 per US gallon - a fair price for all the damage it causes

tom_uk

[sexybicplinwv]

Just put my kids in hock to fill up my tank this morning.

$2.83 a gallon for regular.
Really enjoy this :bigrin: :female:

[redheadhoneycat]

In East Texas it is 2.86 a gallon.....grrr

[coyotedude]

In East Texas it is 2.86 a gallon.....grrr

I'm jealous! Around here it's gone up 4 cents overnight - from 3.41 to 3.45.

I know, I know, it's probably good in the long run to foster us off our dependency on fossil fuels - but it still hurts! Sigh....

Peace

[Solomon]

Sol! I hope you at least have a car that gets good mileage for all that.

running an '03 Silverado... i don't check the milage it gets, but it complains alot about the fuel level being low lol

[mistymockingbird]

Filled up this morning, $3.53 /gal. Sucks ass but not as bad as it is in other countries, so I'm not bitching too loudly.

[deletetacount123]

If more people started walking, the more money you'll save on fuel :)

Walking is GOOD for you.

I walk to Walmart and any other nearby place and just use my car when I have to lol Sooo I only fill up my tank once or twice a month. :)

Tasha
PS.... I hate driving lol

[codybear3]

At the farthest west end of TX its at $2.85 to $2.99 a gallon, depending on which side of the streets you are driving on... :paw: :paw:

[Solomon]

lol i don't usually complain about fuel prices...

i spent $26,000 on a vehicle that uses it, so if i was all that concerned over the price of fuel, i would've focused on a vehicle like the key fob cars

but i figure that we need a vehicle that can haul our garbage away and that a family can be safer in.... those key fob cars are absolutely scary!! not to mention i don't see anyone fitting a riding mower in lol!

[wanderingrichard]

living a bit south of seattle.. today gas prices were $3.37 /gal for regular and $3.89 for premium.. fact is some places it's over $4.00 a gal

why high here?? the tax and spend dumb shits who are in power in this state has increased tax revenue by levying more onto a gal of gas.. it now gets $.80 for every gallon you buy here.. :mad:

[deletetacount123]

lol i don't usually complain about fuel prices...

i spent $26,000 on a vehicle that uses it, so if i was all that concerned over the price of fuel, i would've focused on a vehicle like the key fob cars

but i figure that we need a vehicle that can haul our garbage away and that a family can be safer in.... those key fob cars are absolutely scary!! not to mention i don't see anyone fitting a riding mower in lol!

lol me either.. I never complain.. I just fill the tank up to about $20.00.
Lasts me for almost a month :) But then, I don't drive a lot and just drive to areas in town (med town).

Tasha

[Solomon]

lol $110 lasts about a month for me

[deletetacount123]

lol $110 lasts about a month for me

$20.00 is only about half tank full lol Nice to tell how much I drive hehe
A full tank usually gets me $40 or so.....
I have a small car lol

[Turboguy]

Prescott Valley, Arizona

$3.05 for unleaded. $2.89 for Diesel

[12voltman59]

We have got to face facts--the days of cheap oil are over!!!!!

At the best projections--and those go out the window based upon how fast China, India and other areas continue to industrialize and have an every increasing demand for oil---the last drop of oil will be tapped later in this century---at least oil that can reasonably retrieved...

Iraq might have one of the world's largest, and now basically untapped, oil reserves-but as long as things are as they are now--it's gonna be a long time if ever if those fields see production...

We need to find alternate energy sources and the days of driving big huge honking SUVs and high-performance sports cars and dare I say it--internal cumbustion powered boats--are very soon going to be a thing of the past, as is general aviation, and Dagni and NASCAR fans here in the states won't like this--but auto racing--lest we find some viable alternative fuel to run them.

But--we seem to have blinders on and refuse to face facts--but if we don't do something about the situation--that wall is standing tall out there and we are running towards it--it is only a matter of time till we hit it and crash and burn--or in this case--not burn and we go back to living in caves----

[furrycritter]

I was doing some research on the net about the "high oil co. profits" and found that over the last 11 years the goverment (fed, state, and local) made more money than all the oil companies profits put together for 7 of those years. It seems to me that the governments are the ones doing the big gauaging outhere and they could help us poor folks out if the would just take a little less profit from our pockest.

[Solomon]

sigh... we're not going to run out of resources

and yes furry the working class is the highest tax paying bracket

[spartca]

Here in Northern California it's approaching $4/gallon for premium.

However I bought my car for $8,000 nearly 20 years ago and it still gets 33MPG, so I'm ok with the high gas prices.

As many here have pointed out, in North America we pay about half of what some others pay around the world. Personally I'd rather call off the war in Iraq and stop mortgaging my country's future for military expenditures and just pay the Iraqis the fair market price for the stuff - it would probably be less expensive that way too.

[Solomon]

Here in Northern California it's approaching $4/gallon for premium.

However I bought my car for $8,000 nearly 20 years ago and it still gets 33MPG, so I'm ok with the high gas prices.

As many here have pointed out, in North America we pay about half of what some others pay around the world. Personally I'd rather call off the war in Iraq and stop mortgaging my country's future for military expenditures and just pay the Iraqis the fair market price for the stuff - it would probably be less expensive that way too.

i'll keep your views on the war in mind for when you run for president

[spartca]

i'll keep your views on the war in mind for when you run for president

Wasn't really planning on it, but if you like my views, you might also like Kucinich. He's running. And he's just filed impeachment articles on Cheney:

www.kucinich.us

[Solomon]

Wasn't really planning on it, but if you like my views, you might also like Kucinich. He's running. And he's just filed impeachment articles on Cheney:

www.kucinich.us

i don't agree with your views.... just said i'll keep'em in mind lol

[spartca]

i don't agree with your views.... just said i'll keep'em in mind lol

Yeah I guess Canada is really getting a lot of the benefits of cheap oil without having to finance the war in Iraq... I could see why you would want us to keep at it lol...

[Solomon]

Yeah I guess Canada is really getting a lot of the benefits of cheap oil without having to finance the war in Iraq... I could see why you would want us to keep at it lol...

i am american... and have family fighting over there too

they don't agree with your views either

[spartca]

"Military Personnel Present Iraq Petition at Capitol"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6874417

"Half of Americans Want Immediate Exit from Iraq"
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15624

"Edgy Dems Snarl at Their Antiwar Base"
http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh05012007.html

"How Much Iraqi Crude Oil is Being Stolen?"
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/51218/

[spartca]

they don't agree with your views either

Good thing it's a free country still... oh, wait, nevermind. The Bill of Rights has been suspended.

[Solomon]

yes... so are you saying that there shouldn't be any spoils from war?

and are you honestly buying also how flowery and nice nice that site makes the Saddam regime appear?

[spartca]

Really all I'm saying is that soon we'll have high gas prices AND a huge national debt... no matter how much oil we steal in Iraq.

We've gone and spent our children's future on a huge fishing expedition and at this point we should stop throwing money at Haliburton and the like.

And have you seen the Vet's hospital scandals? The military should go on strike, I wouldn't blame them. If Congress doesn't approve funding soon, we should see them going AWOL in droves soon enough.

[Solomon]

and who's driving for cutting off of the military's funding???

[Solomon]

and who in the hell cares about the national debt?? most every business on the face of the planet MAKES money from debt....

so tell me again how the huge national debt is a bad thing if it's making money??

the reason debt is a bad thing for 95% of the population is because they use it for cars, houses, clothes, and luxuries that takes money out of everyone's pocket....

business's use debt to invest into assets that make money....

[spartca]

i am american...

Would that be North American, South American, Central American, or Ameri-KUHN (from Texas?) I'll bet you have a nuc-u-lar family too ;)

[Solomon]

i was raised in Pennsylvania.... born in Indiana, and i moved to Canada to be with my wife 'till the kids are grown enough so we can get back to PA...

how does that have anything to do with the arguments that i've presented?

[Solomon]

Good thing it's a free country still... oh, wait, nevermind. The Bill of Rights has been suspended.

and do you have actual evidence that the bill of rights has been suspended?

[spartca]

Well here's a great place to start if you're really interested:

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/17381res20030402.html

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/index.html

[Solomon]

ok, never mind.... i'm sure the Patriot Act has been looked over by CNN and if they could've found that the Bill of Rights has indeed been suspended they woulda jumped on the golden oppurtunity to blast Bush yet again

[spartca]

Re: CNN and Psyops

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/02/1513248

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2001/3.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_(United_States)

[Solomon]

yes... are you trying to say that it's a bad thing to psych the enemy out?

or are you trying to suggest that CNN has some sort of fond affections to the president?

[spartca]

I'm saying we won't be hearing too much about the suspension of the Bill of Rights from CNN lol...

[Solomon]

ok... last post for the night

is it just possible... that the reason we won't be hearing about it is because it doesn't exist?

CNN loves nothing more than tearing the president a new asshole if they can at every chance they get, they probably have had an army of lawyers going over every orifice of the 400 + page document of the Patriot Act in question... and you're trying to say that CNN won't talk about it?

tell ya what, when volty gets arrested because he no longer has the freedom of speech to do what he did with his protest, or that the VA Tech gunman was stopped because he didn't have the Right to bear arms, or that all of any part of organized religion in the country has been shut down because we don't have that right, then let me know that there's no longer a Bill of Rights k?

g'night :cool:

[holybane]

Good ole $3.29... I hate it...

-Roger

[wanderingrichard]

forgot to include these two blurbs during last post;

1] only place in US i found gas lower than the price of milk was oahu, hawaii, where a gallon of whole milk is over $8.00

2] boycott scheduled!!...i found this in my sex positive groups message digest, and one of the members provided a link for it.. link follows;

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

so, those of you wishing to participate, there ya go.. i'll be on the road during that time and wont be driving any vehicle at all, so that is at least one, possibly 2 vehicles off the road that day on my account.. :)

:flag3: Rich

[Lisa (va)]

Last time I went to the filling station it was $2.99 (point 9), not sure about current it changes daily, somtimes more than once.

Wish I really had the option of walking here or there, but living where we do it's not very practical (even our next door neighbor is about a mile down the road).

Being that we have multiple vehicles (7), with the prices these days it's a good thing we can only drive one at a time.

Lisa

hugs n kisses

[meteast chick]

Are we still talking about gas prices?

I work midnights, came home 2 mornings ago it was $2.97, that night going to work it was $3.14, and today is $3.12. Hmph. I find solace in that we are not on an island, and I won't bitch too much because gas prices are more expensive elsewhere I know.

but I'm pretty certain this is how we all feel...

[sexybicplinwv]

Thank You Guy's For Posting Something About Is!!! :) :female:

[Toad82]

Salem, Oregon $3.33 a gallon

[moonlitwish]

Charlotte, NC was running at $2.99 yesterday. Cross the line into SC and you save $.10 a gallon.
I'm with Tasha-WALK! I walk everywhere I can, and some places I shouldn't with my messed up knees and ankle. But I can't afford to drive in this traffic! Walked to the grocery store yesterday. Approx 5 miles total with 2 grocery bags full. No I can't get everything at once, but at least I save $5 in gas and don't have to worry bout getting fat! lol Not to mention I almost get there faster depending on what time of day it is :tong: I need to spruce up my bike. That would get me there and home a little quicker so maybe I could get some ice cream to enjoy on these hot Carolina summers...mmmm so much for not getting fat!

[BreeIsMe]

$3.50++

Bree

[chook]

If more people started walking, the more money you'll save on fuel :)

Walking is GOOD for you.

I walk to Walmart and any other nearby place and just use my car when I have to lol Sooo I only fill up my tank once or twice a month. :)

Tasha
PS.... I hate driving lol
Dear Tasha my wife travels about 120 kilometers one way thats 240klms a round trip......do you really think a nice leasurely stroll to work would help us pay our bills???????

[spartca]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

so, those of you wishing to participate, there ya go.. i'll be on the road during that time and wont be driving any vehicle at all, so that is at least one, possibly 2 vehicles off the road that day on my account.. :)

Way to go Richard! Just buying gas on a different day won't help a thing, but choosing an alternative method like public transportation, biking, walking definitely will!

It's a bummer our North American society is so organized around the car... it would be better IMHO if people could find work closer to home!

[BreeIsMe]

Chook,
Perhaps you should consider moving closer to her work or she can find a job closer to home. There are many 'mixed use" developments being done in LA now and their sole purpose is to move people from the suburbs to the city to live and work in close proximity to each other. This would cut down drastically on fuel oils burned and save alot of other resources including lives from accidents, "freeway rage" etc...

Practical but maybe not possible in your circumstances..

Bree


Dear Tasha my wife travels about 120 kilometers one way thats 240klms a round trip......do you really think a nice leasurely stroll to work would help us pay our bills???????

[wss30152]

Looks like i will be sucking a dick for a tank full soon!

[IanBorthwick]

It's currently about $3.59 a gallon for Super unleaded here in Ca. Don't know why, but regular is changing a lot and often!

[Solomon]

personally, i don't think the price of gas is a problem, it's the personal financial management education that's not taught in school that's the problem

and it's probably just a hop, skip, and a jump to a cheaper alternative that also has the power of a diesel motor!

[12voltman59]

Our gas prices in this area are now falling back below $3 something a gallon--it's amazing--they have one thing happen on the world markets one day that makes the commodity price of crude oil go up and the pump prices go up 25 cents in a few hours, but it takes a few weeks for them to go back down to the rate they were before whatever happened to make the commidity price jump--and its BS that gas we have on hand now should jump so much when that gas was pulled out of the ground ages ago---can we say "price gouging" here????

The oil company people always say that the price we pay at the pump reflects "supply and demand" and that might be true if there were an actual situation that we know would lead to shortages coming down the line like when Katrina and Rita shut down or restricted Gulf of Mexico oil production for at time or if a terrorist group blows up a major oilfield, pipeline or something along these lines--but these rumor situations that make for some short term spike in the commodity price should not make pump prices rise at all!!!!!!

The prices will fall for a week or so just before its Memorial Day Weekend, when everyone will be driving places and doing thing like running boats, motorcross motorcycles and stuff like that---then it will go back up in the period just before, during and after that holiday weekend here in the States....

[ghytifrdnr]

I think everyone here is looking in the wrong direction.

I'm old enough to remember when gas sold at 25 cents per gallon. (and I could afford only two quarts) But in those days we still had a lot of silver dollars in circulation. A silver dollar is slightly less than one ounce of silver, and a dollar would buy about four gallons of gas.

Today and ounce of silver sells for $13.50 to $14.00, and an ounce of silver will STILL buy about four gallons of gas. The relative value hasn't changed in forty years! What has changed is that today our dollars are all paper and are WORTH CONSIDERABLY LESS than they were forty years ago!

For many years our government and the federal reserve have been "inflating" the dollar, and that is the same as stealing a bit of the value. It's gone so far that there is precious little value left in the dollar, and when you're buying oil with worthless dollars it takes a whole bunch of them to do the job. :2cents:

[Solomon]

I think everyone here is looking in the wrong direction.

I'm old enough to remember when gas sold at 25 cents per gallon. (and I could afford only two quarts) But in those days we still had a lot of silver dollars in circulation. A silver dollar is slightly less than one ounce of silver, and a dollar would buy about four gallons of gas.

Today and ounce of silver sells for $13.50 to $14.00, and an ounce of silver will STILL buy about four gallons of gas. The relative value hasn't changed in forty years! What has changed is that today our dollars are all paper and are WORTH CONSIDERABLY LESS than they were forty years ago!

For many years our government and the federal reserve have been "inflating" the dollar, and that is the same as stealing a bit of the value. It's gone so far that there is precious little value left in the dollar, and when you're buying oil with worthless dollars it takes a whole bunch of them to do the job. :2cents:

excellent point!
and it also makes sense with what i've heard that USD's no longer based on gold....

[ghytifrdnr]

excellent point!
and it also makes sense with what i've heard that USD's no longer based on gold....

No convertability between USD and gold since 1933, and no convertibility to silver since 1972. :(

[lilbitsva]

it's up to $2.89 hear and i really can't believe that gas has gotten this out of control i would love to know why it has to be so expensive. I just dont' believe them in the news because they are reporting what they are being told i mean i can tell you that sometimes what they tell you just aint the truth. lil bit

[lookn0ver]

:2cents: life is great ,its people who suck. :eek:

yep the initial shock of petrol prices going outta sight is long since passed and now we are all quite harmless as puppies to do anything about it.
everything has gone up to the point of insanity and we'll all just pay it too...well most of us will...i hope my having grown up with nothing isn't put to the test coz those were some grey years indeed and i'd hate to repeat them.
but if i have to i know i will.. this may have to happen to show all the illegals what it is to be american...to be american costs BIGTIME! the only reason they are here in droves is because of the free ride (sonsOFbitches) well the rides over ,time to pay! go home with all the free money you've made and get ready for us to conquer you all over again cause the chineese made shoe will now be on the other foot.

actually seen gas in the poor part of town for $2.88 lauderdale lakes fl. :cool:

[Solomon]

No convertability between USD and gold since 1933, and no convertibility to silver since 1972. :(

geez.... it's only been a little while since i've even seriously thought of any possibilities of beyond working a job for a living

no wonder the rich are buying into things like gold, silver, an oil....

[kidder]

I have read that the prices are high do to lack of refineing capacity, I would like to know how many refineries were closed when all the oil companies start ed to merge to save them money and give us better service. All so Indy car runs on 100% ethanol made from grain, they did not have to make any major changes to the cars they just tune them diferent.

[miller lite man]

I work at a truck stop, and the prices are: $3.14 for reg Unleaded & midgrade;$3.24 for Premium,and $2.74 for diesel. Maybe some of you have gotten e-mails about NOT buying gas on Tuesday,the 15th....I can send it to anyone who hasn't seen the e-mail and wants it. . contact me at mrc57107@aol.com lets make the gas companies feel OUR pain. :( . Thanx ..

[spartca]

Looks like i will be sucking a dick for a tank full soon!


I work at a truck stop...

Hmmm... two plus two equals.... ;)

[Azrael]

and it's probably just a hop, skip, and a jump to a cheaper alternative that also has the power of a diesel motor!
True, they are doing some amazing things with diesel technology.

[canuckotter]

Maybe some of you have gotten e-mails about NOT buying gas on Tuesday,the 15th....I can send it to anyone who hasn't seen the e-mail and wants it. . contact me at mrc57107@aol.com lets make the gas companies feel OUR pain. :( . Thanx ..
I know I'm late to the party on this one, but I just had to chime in: Refusing to buy gas on a specific date is pointless, because you're still using the same amount of gas, just shifting when you buy it. I've worked retail jobs before, trust me, we took one-day hiccups in stride without batting an eyelash as long as the weekly totals were reasonable.

The reality is, it's supply and demand. You're paying $3+ per gallon because you're willing to.

The only way to pay less for gas is to use less gas or look for alternatives. If your vehicle can handle E85 (85% ethanol), look in your area for gas stations that carry it and use that. All gasoline-powered vehicles should be fine with E10 (10% ethanol), so go looking in your area for that. Is it going to make a difference in the short term? No, it won't. But the more ethanol is used, the more money there is in producing it, and the more money in turn goes into researching better ways of making it, and the net effect is that twenty years from now our kids will look at gasoline the way we look at leaded gas. :)

Of course, if you have a diesel, look for biodiesel sources. Same logic, but probably not as easy... Biodiesel distribution is even less mature than ethanol distribution.

And, of course, there's the old standby of simply using less fuel. Walk, bike, rollerblade, or jog to work. Trade in your gas-guzzling SUV for a higher-mileage car. Take public transportation. Plan your excursions to minimise the amount of gas you'll use (ie don't drive to the store three times if you can do it all in one trip).

[the mage]

Hey people,
You need to take a hard long look now at where you personally are going to be in a few short years.
The point about your dollar buying less is the big one and that is going to get worse. The US buck is the weakest of the big ones out there. You're manufacturing numbers are down all over. Trade problems worsening. Its not illegals doing this to you its your government policy.
China is the growing power and that fact will not stop. You as a person need to seriously look where your dollar is going now, to prevent disaster in a few years. You can fully expect at some point that your government will lose its ability to control consumer price of gas due to its weakened world position. When that happens gas prices here will triple.
Defend yourself against that by doing your best to eliminate your need for long travel. Your suburban commute will be not viable in future. Stop giving your money to the Saudis now!!
Do what you can knowing this huge fact, one not being put out there (yet) as its political suicide, but, nothing we do, no "greening" of our lives will alter the climate change we have already started.
The situation will deteriorate as long as there are 6 Billion too many humans on this rock. WE are the problem. Not our lifestyle.

[The Cheshire Cat]

Walking and public transport are fine...if you live in the city. But- if you don't and your job happens to involve driving long distances, using a gas guzzeling truck-well- to put it mildly..every time I give my husband the debit card cause he needs gas to go to work, I become physically ill...truly. Losing our asses in michigan.... :(

[spartca]

Hey people,
You need to take a hard long look now at where you personally are going to be in a few short years.
The point about your dollar buying less is the big one and that is going to get worse. The US buck is the weakest of the big ones out there. You're manufacturing numbers are down all over. Trade problems worsening. Its not illegals doing this to you its your government policy.
China is the growing power and that fact will not stop. You as a person need to seriously look where your dollar is going now, to prevent disaster in a few years. You can fully expect at some point that your government will lose its ability to control consumer price of gas due to its weakened world position. When that happens gas prices here will triple.
Defend yourself against that by doing your best to eliminate your need for long travel. Your suburban commute will be not viable in future. Stop giving your money to the Saudis now!!
Do what you can knowing this huge fact, one not being put out there (yet) as its political suicide, but, nothing we do, no "greening" of our lives will alter the climate change we have already started.
The situation will deteriorate as long as there are 6 Billion too many humans on this rock. WE are the problem. Not our lifestyle.

Nicely put the mage.

Reducing both consumption and population are the key, as you correctly point out! So few people want to look at this.

Thanks for reminding us! :)

[sexybicplinwv]

The gas where we live is crazy :rotate: It is $3.09 a ((gal)) here :( How about where you live, Just asking :disgust:
W.O.W. Up to $3.50 now, And just 3 week's ago it was $3.09 :yikes2: This :rotate:

[unum60]

Gee I thought this thread was on "gettin high" but it turned out to be just GAS. :tongue:

[12voltman59]

Gas is now running around $3.59 a gallon in these parts now---they say, that adjusted for inflation--we are now paying record setting prices per gallon for gas--the thing is--in a few years we will probably be saying---"remember the good old days when gas was well below $5 or $10 bucks a gallon?"


The days of cheap gas are history---and it is really about time it was gone--maybe now we will get ourselves weaned off the tits of the oil companies