Just Dont!!!

[sexybicplinwv]

I just dont think this is the place to put family picture of your children on here, And if you do than block out there little faces!!! :disgust:

[country60]

Although I can see your point (adult type site and all ) how is controling what others do working for you? I have tryed that from time to time and could never quite get them to do what I wanted, if you are having better luck, please give me your formula. :compuser: Like I said in the begining, I aggree with you but people will do what they do. :bigrin:

Country60

[sexybicplinwv]

You are so rite :) Did not think about this to good did I!!! :bigrin:

[LoveLion]

This is an adult site no doubt, but putting a picture of your kids/family up doesnt expose the people themselves to this site. I dont think its that bad to share family pics. Lots of people on this site become close friends and have interests in each others lives, others are proud of their families and want to show others. I think its ok

[12voltman59]

I would agree--on the public pages of this site--don't put pics of your kids---it can be interpreted the wrong way by certain people--like prosecuting attornies and the FBI--they are going after porn in general and anything they think has to do with child pornography in particular!!

It is great that this is a site that is family friendly--but it still is an adult site and if you become friends with someone and want to share pics of the kids or grandkids--send them via email or snail mail---

[Dagni]

Well this is not 100 % adult site and i don't see any reason why i should remove my daughter from my profile. I'm bisexual in my head, in my soul, i do not expose my naked pictures and puting my daughter pics beside it.

I think we do need more liberation in here, and yes, our kids must know that we are bisexual. That's a honest aproach.
It's same for me in real life too since i live in lesbian marriedge, and we both trying to learn our daughter that there is two types of marriedges. And it's easy to do it here in Scandinavia since there is a lot gay/lesbian married couples. So at the end i really don't see any reason why should i remove my daughter pic from profile.

[12voltman59]

Dagni--I am thinking its more of a matter of security for your kids--I would not want a picture of my kids--if I had or ever do have them--anywhere online--unless they were nearly out of high school---I have been there with police departments when they do those operations where the officers pose as "a 14-year old cheerleader" or something like that---man--let me tell ya--what those guys say will curdle your blood!!!!!!

[TashaSW]

I agree.... posting pics of your kids is actually VERY DANGEROUS especially on sites like this... yes its not 100% adult but its STILL an adult site.

-- Not everyone on this site is a friendly adult. You don't know what kind of people view your page. How do you know someone won't save the picture on thier computer ??

-- Sometimes we can live in the same town as someone else and not even know it (especially if you post but the other person is more of a lurker... just browses the site and profiles). Suppose that person sees your kids pic and recongizes them one day in public? School, park.... somewhere. Who knows if that person is good or not.

Everyone has thier right to post whatever they please but I think its dangerous to post kid pictures. Just cause this is a friendly site doesn't mean its safe. This site along with every other site that has profiles, chat and messages boards are all dangerous.

Tasha

[Dagni]

I'm not sure about last two posts.
It is natural to put my daughter pic because i am so so famous person, well known that i'm in lesbian marriedge, and there lots of pictures of me, my wife and my daughter and yes, probably someone have our pictures in computer, but there is no law that can acuse me for that, no matter if i'm in Finland, Sweden, Monte Carlo or anywhere on world.
I never had any problems with that, and beside that, there is always law to protect me.
Simply i don't get it......or maybe i'm too liberal. At least it's normal in Scandinavia.

[Solomon]

I'm not sure about last two posts.
It is natural to put my daughter pic because i am so so famous person, well known that i'm in lesbian marriedge, and there lots of pictures of me, my wife and my daughter and yes, probably someone have our pictures in computer, but there is no law that can acuse me for that, no matter if i'm in Finland, Sweden, Monte Carlo or anywhere on world.
I never had any problems with that, and beside that, there is always law to protect me.
Simply i don't get it......or maybe i'm too liberal. At least it's normal in Scandinavia.

i don't know dagni, truthfully i'd side with sexybicouple and gang on this matter

you have a point in that it's always best to be honest with the little ones, but this site here's like all of the internet, it isn't just finnland

i imagine that you do enjoy good protection from law enforcement, and it's probably not like your daughter wouldn't be exposed to at least some of your fame anyways

but i do believe it's always wise to err on the side of caution, there's alot of looneys out there, and the world just doesn't change for us, ya know?

so in my mind it would be best to limit in every way possible the exposure of the young ones to only what they can handle... not what we would have them be ready for

[flexuality]

Dagni,

I think that the question here isn't whether or not you are doing anything wrong. I don't believe you are doing anything wrong by posting a picture of your daughter.....but I do get very concerned with the idea of children's pictures being seen by lunatics who have very different ideas.

I am more concerned for your daughter. Yes, there are laws that protect, but it really hit home for me when I had to get a restraining order against my ex many years ago, when I realized that this order could do NOTHING to stop my ex from harming me or my kids. It only gave me the right to call the police if the order was violated.

The laws cannot protect until AFTER a crime has happened. No law in the world can stop someone from commiting a crime, they only provide recourse after the crime, and in some cases that is too late.

It just seems to be an unecessary risk to place children's pictures on a site where it is more likely that some of these sickos "cruise" for victims.

[Dagni]

Still don't get it. You know, like i told before this is not 100 % adult side, and i'm not here to represent only my sexuality, i represent full personality, and from that point of view i don't see any kind of problems. I'm not puting my naked pics, neither pics of my wife except one, but my daughter is something special that represents me.

Yes, i am famous, and we do raise our kids here in Scandinavia in a way that they can be totaly open to the rest of the world, and not to be ashemed that they're parents are gay/lesbian couple. She already started with go-kart and it's well known that i'm daughter of 4 times World Rally Champion, that i'm famous too, and simply i have that huge self confidence even when we travel a lot just like we did been in Bahrein 2 weeks ago, and you all know that Arabians are crazy for Scandinavian blondes. But i had full protection there, and yes i was a little bit scared over there, but here, no.

Here, in all 5 Scandinavian countries there is strict law when it comes to kids, any kids of any threat, or even using ugly words is going under the law. So, kids are protected with laws, it's even forbidden to yell at them (Finns are so quiet that we barely speak, and i didn't heard any Finn to yell in any situation).
But freedom is on the other side. You know, my daughter have to realize, and we're both good in that raising her to accept all differences between straight and lesbian/gay marriedges.

I didn't get any threat at all, never, anywhere on the world, but of course that i'm more causian when we travel abroad.

[tink1978]

Still don't get it. You know, like i told before this is not 100 % adult side, and i'm not here to represent only my sexuality, i represent full personality, and from that point of view i don't see any kind of problems. I'm not puting my naked pics, neither pics of my wife except one, but my daughter is something special that represents me.

Yes, i am famous, and we do raise our kids here in Scandinavia in a way that they can be totaly open to the rest of the world, and not to be ashemed that they're parents are gay/lesbian couple. She already started with go-kart and it's well known that i'm daughter of 4 times World Rally Champion, that i'm famous too, and simply i have that huge self confidence even when we travel a lot just like we did been in Bahrein 2 weeks ago, and you all know that Arabians are crazy for Scandinavian blondes. But i had full protection there, and yes i was a little bit scared over there, but here, no.

Here, in all 5 Scandinavian countries there is strict law when it comes to kids, any kids of any threat, or even using ugly words is going under the law. So, kids are protected with laws, it's even forbidden to yell at them (Finns are so quiet that we barely speak, and i didn't heard any Finn to yell in any situation).
But freedom is on the other side. You know, my daughter have to realize, and we're both good in that raising her to accept all differences between straight and lesbian/gay marriedges.

I didn't get any threat at all, never, anywhere on the world, but of course that i'm more causian when we travel abroad.


Ok first of all how is this not 100% adult site? and yes where you live there may be laws to protect children but who is to say that someone from another country who may or may not have the same laws takes your child and runs to a country that is not as protective of children and you never see her again. Is that something you want to live with? I personally have 2 boys and would never post them on a site that was or had anything to do with my adult personal life not matter what I have told them.


Amanda
:2cents:

[Dagni]

Ok first of all how is this not 100% adult site? and yes where you live there may be laws to protect children but who is to say that someone from another country who may or may not have the same laws takes your child and runs to a country that is not as protective of children and you never see her again. Is that something you want to live with? I personally have 2 boys and would never post them on a site that was or had anything to do with my adult personal life not matter what I have told them.


Amanda
:2cents:

I think you missed the point that i do travel a lot and spending less time in Finland, mostly on road all over the world. Yes, i did afraid in Bahrein, i will be scared too in other countries, including Canada and USA, and of course i'm afraid if someone may kidnap her, hurt her, wherever it is on the world, even on places where I live. But personaly i don't believe that there is much dangerous to post my daughter pics here than on the other non-adult site.
There are lunatics everywhere, and we both know that, but i repeat myself, i'm not here to expose my sexuality, i expose my personality on first place which includes every aspect of my life and then at the end it comes to sexual explicit.

[Cogent]

I'm With Dagni
It seems a lot of the US-posters seem to judge the european experience based on US realities and on a lack of understanding of the already exposed nature of someone who seeks out and lives in the public eye.

While I would not out my own children on this site, I can certainly see why Dagni would do so....it's simply a part of her life and she is showing it to us. Further, this site seems relatively benign. Threat to her would most likey come from our many wackos in the US... but she is based elsewhere.

What I find more interesting is the number of pix Dagni has posted... it seems a combination of both vanity and "pearls before swine."

Vanity: One or two pix would be enough to show how glamourous she is... but people don't usually accomplish things without ego and vanity (and that's also the world she grew up in).

As for pearls, (and diamonds and rubies) before hoi polloi, I wonder who she expects to connect to here since the majority of people on the site seem to be pretty mainstream americans/anglos.... not a bad thing but a very different thing than the continent. Americans tend to be people who are not likely to "get" her exprience.

So what is the woman who has it all missing, why is she really here?

Interesting to know

[TashaSW]

I think you missed the point that i do travel a lot and spending less time in Finland, mostly on road all over the world. Yes, i did afraid in Bahrein, i will be scared too in other countries, including Canada and USA, and of course i'm afraid if someone may kidnap her, hurt her, wherever it is on the world, even on places where I live. But personaly i don't believe that there is much dangerous to post my daughter pics here than on the other non-adult site.
There are lunatics everywhere, and we both know that, but i repeat myself, i'm not here to expose my sexuality, i expose my personality on first place which includes every aspect of my life and then at the end it comes to sexual explicit.

Dagni,
Your daughter is pretty and I know you want to show that and that shes your daughter and have no problem posting pics of her. The one of her applying your lipstick is very cute.

But your famous..... there ARE people who go after the famous, could recongize your child somewhere public and kidnap her for rasom (sp!!)
You could have a stalker at any time. (don't say never.... people who believe things will never happen to them usually DO have something bad happen)

Thats what worries us. Yes any child could be kidnapped for any number of reasons but I personally think the weathly and famous are more at risk if someone is seeking money.

This site is 100% adult.... even tho it doesn't seem like it but it is.
You only know the people that have posted on the forums and maybe chatted to on the chat. But there are tons more who make an account just to read the profiles.

I agree posting pics of kids on ANY site is dangerous. Even the kid-friendly sites. Cause you just never know what kind of person is looking at the pictures.

Laws in Finland may be different than the ones here in Canada and USA but Flex pretty much said it right.... nothing really can be done to protect till AFTER the crime has happened.

Tink is right on the mark.... if someone kidnapped your daughter say in Finland, took her to a different country, there may be nothing you can do.
Ive heard of people getting kidnapped, taken to another country and never being seen again .... IF you were lucky the child will show up much later in life usually brainwashed with no memory of who her real family is.

I wouldn't post pics of my kids (if I had any lol) and I wouldn't post someone elses kids pics either BUT......
If someone wants to post thier own kids pictures then its really up to them... but I just think those people are more at risk.

Especially with all the child porn crimes Ive been hearing on the news lately.... Sadly, some child porn pics are actually "copied" (saved) of a child from another site, photoshopped to make it look naughty and posted as an oringal pic on some child porn website. :-(

Scary thought. Thats the main reason to be concerned,.... you never know whos capable of doing such thing.

I only knew that cause even adult sites do that too. So its possible for sickos to "Recreate" a image using a adult, teen, child, animal or whatever.

All Im asking is just be careful :-) The internet's fun and great but its also a very scary and dangerous thing..... lots of bad crimes have happened just cause of the internet.

Scary sites are: (to name a few.....)
You have sites on self-injury (clearly detailing how to do this and that)
You have sites telling you how to make bombs and such
You have sites that actually give you ideas to commit a crime without being caught.

So ya.... I love the internet but I hate it too. :-)

[Solomon]

i do respect your right to do as you will Dagni, you sound like you're well aware of the different aspects of dealings with the net an all

although i do question whether your daughter should be faced with the same risks... i also believe that you've made your decision and so be it

many fortunes

[LoveLion]

I dont think there is much or a real danger to your kids by putting their pictures up ion the site. They are only a few pictures and not obseen (sp?) in anyway. If a stalker or pedophile wanted to go after a child, why would he choose a child 's picture off this site and not any other of the many sites that allow picture sharing. Surly MySpace would give a predator more infomation and opportunity to a child then this site. And Im sure a predator would be much more likly to go after a child in the local park or try to get onto their MySpace or IM program to stalk them rather then trying to get to them in a picture on a profile that has no information about the child or their whereabouts. Its simply a harmless picture. And if a predator wanted to get to a child through a picture or even wanted to look at a picture of a child in an inappropriate way, there are much easier places to find them and pictures that are much dirtier then the ones posted on the profiles here.

[Solomon]

Lovelion,

personally, if our kids want to post pics of themselves anywhere publicly, then they hafta be old enough to understand and navigate the risks on their own... otherwise we don't feel we have the right to expose'em to it

[darkeyes]

I dont think there is much or a real danger to your kids by putting their pictures up ion the site. They are only a few pictures and not obseen (sp?) in anyway. If a stalker or pedophile wanted to go after a child, why would he choose a child 's picture off this site and not any other of the many sites that allow picture sharing. Surly MySpace would give a predator more infomation and opportunity to a child then this site. And Im sure a predator would be much more likly to go after a child in the local park or try to get onto their MySpace or IM program to stalk them rather then trying to get to them in a picture on a profile that has no information about the child or their whereabouts. Its simply a harmless picture. And if a predator wanted to get to a child through a picture or even wanted to look at a picture of a child in an inappropriate way, there are much easier places to find them and pictures that are much dirtier then the ones posted on the profiles here.
In principle I agree with you Lion..if the world wasnt so bloody hung up on things like sexuality then I can see no problem with posting our kids pics on site. I dont have any, but for those that d their children are part of who they are.

However because of the paranoia and suspicions of many outside what is considered "normal" this is an area we may really wish to steer clear of.. kids pics on a site such as this can only draw the attention of the authorites and Im not sure we want that any more than is necessary, if at all. Paedophiles could quite easily post kid pics to draw the attention of others, we do not know, and the last thing we want is that to happen and the unwelcome attentions of PC Plod and the vice squad and of course the holy of arseholies the tabloid muck raking press!

So for now I dont think it wise to post our kids pics andwhile I find it sad, itsa necessary restriction we should make ourselves.

[Long Duck Dong]

when is a risk, not a risk ??? when we don't do anything at all and lock ourselves away

no matter what we do, its a risk.....

the risk factor is high..... yet a lot of it is not a threat risk....
its a bit like running out and buying nortons anti virus to protect your computer from email viruses then never going on the net....

the biggest risk with sexual offenders is not if they see pics in a website, its the fact that they walk amongst us.....and often we are not even aware of them

are childs pics on a website, more dangerous than a walk in the park or to the shop ??????

what are we gonna deem too dangerous next ???? pics that Identify your house even tho there may be a few 100'000 houses that are identical cos somebody may decide to paint bomb ya house

hey I have a idea, lets ban hook ups cos we are actually meeting people that may be sexual deviants...... oh wait..... society calls me a sexual deviant cos I'm bi......

I am sorry but I agree with dagni..... posting pics in a site is not placing the kids at risk.....they are more at risk from simply living....

[Solomon]

lol i do agree that this is not a big deal... it's not like anyone's posted a full itinerary, the address, the school, etc.. etc..

on the other hand there are alot of new people still signing onto the net LDD... and it's a little more public and anonymous than walkin in the park, or shopping malls

and if Dagni was someone who was just signing onto the internet for the first time in her life, and was completely naive about the possible risks, then i think the words of caution would definately be helpful

however, i think Dagni's certianly demonstrated that she's quite capable of handling her own, and she's comfy with her choice

so it's not quite time to alert the S.W.A.T. team just yet! lol! we can all take a biiiggg breath... an relax... an then set up the drinks an get back to havin' a good time :cool:

[darkeyes]

God knows I do agree with ya Duckie... and my concern, while its for kids to a great degree, is not out of any real fear for anything people here may be up to, for there are other more devious ways than becoming members of this site for them to obtain access to children, is more one of self interest and I just any dont want crap thrown at us than we already get.l would not proscribe people from showing pictures of their kids in here, but I do advise caution knowing just how prejudiced and misinformed many in society are about bisexual and gay people..

And I dont think the fascetiousness was in order hun. What adults do with each other, hook up or no is their affair..but what I am saying is that when children, however harmlessly are drawn into our world, then paranoid and bigotted people with an agenda, for their own reasons are liable to sit up, take notice and use it against us if they can.

And I do agree. Kids are more at risk from simply living..sexually they are also more at risk from being preyed upon by their own familes and those they know than any in here.. but thats the point...the perception of a paranoid society that those members of a "deviant" group are so perverted as to allow their kids pictures be published in their sex web site. And why they ask? Not for them the innocence of us just letting people know who we are and who we love.

Its just that I see the risks to us as a group, but its up to each and every member to decide for theselves how hey proceed.

[flexuality]

when is a risk, not a risk ??? when we don't do anything at all and lock ourselves away


That is one extreme...I think all I was getting at was there is a difference between trying to avoid all risk and using common sense.

Yes, there is risk in everything.....but I think that common sense would tell me that it is wiser to have a 4 year old supervised by an adult at the park, than it is to send a 4 year old to the park by themselves.

Some people out there don't think about that kind of thing....unfortunately.

Common sense isn't so common.... :rolleyes:

I agree with Sol....this isn't really a big deal.

I also think that it is a good thing that people pointed out some of the risks.....I know I would appreciate it if I was doing something and hadn't thought of some of the riskier aspects of it.

But ultimately it is Dagni's decision, not ours.

I don't avoid all risk with my kids, but I do try to minimize risks that are common sense.

[Solomon]

God knows I do agree with ya Duckie... and my concern, while its for kids to a great degree, is not out of any real fear for anything people here may be up to, for there are other more devious ways than becoming members of this site for them to obtain access to children, is more one of self interest and I just any dont want crap thrown at us than we already get.l would not proscribe people from showing pictures of their kids in here, but I do advise caution knowing just how prejudiced and misinformed many in society are about bisexual and gay people..

And I dont think the fascetiousness was in order hun. What adults do with each other, hook up or no is their affair..but what I am saying is that when children, however harmlessly are drawn into our world, then paranoid and bigotted people with an agenda, for their own reasons are liable to sit up, take notice and use it against us if they can.

And I do agree. Kids are more at risk from simply living..sexually they are also more at risk from being preyed upon by their own familes and those they know than any in here.. but thats the point...the perception of a paranoid society that those members of a "deviant" group are so perverted as to allow their kids pictures be published in their sex web site. And why they ask? Not for them the innocence of us just letting people know who we are and who we love.

Its just that I see the risks to us as a group, but its up to each and every member to decide for theselves how hey proceed.

you do raise a great point in it being used against us as a group... i actually hadn't considered that perspective, although i'm not sure how the picture in question could be seen that way, but ya have a point those people probably would twist it that way

i don't agree that the words of caution were fascetious though... i think it's just part of being part of a community that does take the time an all to look out for each other

growing up in the country, and as far as looking out for each other... this is nothing lol!! sigh... i do miss it though.... it's quiet and just annoying enough to get me off my ass sometimes doing something lol!

[Long Duck Dong]

opppsss screwed up there.... will teach me for writing and posting when i am on the phone

the part about the hook ups, was to do with the fact that we are exposing ourselves to others on the net.. and bringing them into our lives

now if i had a family with kids, I simply would not hook up online.....not unless it was pretty damm secure and safe and the person would never be brought to my home
its not a case of protecting my family, its a case of removing as much risk as possible to my family cos of my actions
online, I can't control who looks at my pics, but offline, I can control who comes to my home....

( I know that this is gonna come out wrong )..look at the forums over the last month and we have had threads about incestous relationships, beastiality and asking who does it, B&D / S&M, kinky sex, threesomes etc....

we need to stop and think about who is the bigger risk factor, the person who posts a innocent pic or the people that post threads that can be misconstrued as sexually deviant urges
in the event that the site was investigated, the officials would read the posts, see the pics and feel that the children are in danger and at risk from their OWN PARENTS as their parents are displaying * deviant * behievour, parents that may have never posted pics of their kids, but have posted in threads....

I think that makes better sense.......

[The Cheshire Cat]

Speaking as a mother and grandmother..the idea of a pedophile looking a pic of (for instance) my grand daughter with lust in his heart...creeps me right out! I dont find that liberating at all. :eek:

[12voltman59]

Dagni--here in the US on one of our major television networks: NBC-News--they have been doing a series of programs on their network called "Dateline NBC: To Catch A Predator!"

Over the course of a year or so now--they have set up houses in different parts of our country in which many men---now numbering almost a thousand--who come to those houses thinking they are going to be having sex with either a teenaged boy or girl they have met online.

These guys are cops, doctors, lawyers, teachers, preachers, military service members, truckers---the whole gamit of occupations, ages, educational levels etc--

They continue to come to the houses in spite of the fact that many have now seen other shows in the series and as soon as they see the reporter--they go: "Oh shit--I'm on that NBC show, aren't I?"

These guys usually say things like: "Well--I wasn't really gonna have sex with the kid" but of course these guys will have some beer, rubbers, sex toys and the like with them and then the reporter reads them the emails they sent to "the kid" saying things like "I will fuck you gently!" or some such thing.

After these guys walk out of the house-they are met by a group of police who immediately arrest them.

Many of our police departments all over the country have been doing these operations and they will have guys drive halfway across America to come to a town if they think they are going to be able to screw a kid of their dreams.

I have sat with police officers posing as such kids--they go into places like AOL chat rooms and within seconds of going into a room---they will have three or four guys hittiing on them--

There are also many places in the world--like the some of the former Soviet Republics and Asia where there are major trafficking rings in the buying and selling of children for the purpose of using them for sex---these are big time organized crime operations that make a great deal of money in such trade.

It may be a bit overdramatic--but this is the fact of our world today--we have many predators out there who do love to prey on kids---

I hope that there are places on the planet not affected by such sickness--I hope that you don't have any such pedophiles in Finnland---

Just from what I have seen and heard on the web--things are not so innocent out there and if you have kids--you do need to err on the side of caution---it is too bad but just a fact of life in a world that is not always a nice place--especially for children----

It's your business if you want to post pics of your kids on the web--I would not do it if I had them---and I would sure as hell monitor their time spent on the web!!!!!!

[Dagni]

Volty, i've been in USA and Canada for over 200 times, or more, and i'm coming again in June in Montreal and Indy. But this will be the first time to bring my daughter over there. And i'm leading her with me to show her some things that she's intrested for, not to expose her like a child from Scandinavian lesbian marriedge, no, i just want to show her how looks like racing in north America. And you know, we will just hang around the circuits, that's all. And to get some small go-kart race, that's all. I have no intention, not now to hang around in the town. Not this time.

But i see your point, i saw and heard many similar things not just in USA, i saw that all over the world, but this time, now, the point is clear: We going to race and to support a few guys in F1, and to have good time on circuit, in paddock.

[bigbadmax]

I fully support Dagni, Unfortunately y'all seem to have the same base ideals that all US people have...my wife is from US but now looks on things with both views...so I feel I can express this as a informed person....

As mentioned above, the majority(not all) us people tend to over react when it is too late to have an open mind...take security for example...prior to 9/11 it was non existent post the incident its the be all and end all of life....well hello...... now you know what we in britain had to endure day in and day out through the 1970's.(I have served in Iraq so dont get me started on that 1!),

Meagans Law was braught in(rightly so)for the protection of innocent people but before this then you would not have heard..or passed a glint of a thought for the darker aspects of life.Now all you hear about is Big brother interjecting and telling us when we can have freedom of speach and thought.

The point I am trying to relate is that non Europeans(I am English not european by the way)tend to react totally different to what we consider the norm......grant us the intelligence to know what we know and not do the "Political correct way" or the "sanitised bull" that politicians who live in ivory towers expect or want us to do, in order to normalise and remove the very ideals that make different nationalities who they are and not just human beings but people with character.

As mentioned before my wife is US and she fully understands both points of view ie the Us and the rest of the world.what you feel is uncomfortable is the norm elsewhere...that is why we are very liberal in many areas compared to the US(blue law for example in tx and La)

Don't therefore pass your judgement on nations attitudes compared to your own ideals unless you are fully aware of all the facts......oops there's me kicked out of the site :eek:

[Dagni]

Meagans Law was braught in(rightly so)for the protection of innocent people but before this then you would not have heard..or passed a glint of a thought for the darker aspects of life.Now all you hear about is Big brother interjecting and telling us when we can have freedom of speach and thought.

The point I am trying to relate is that non Europeans(I am English not european by the way)tend to react totally different to what we consider the norm......grant us the intelligence to know what we know and not do the "Political correct way" or the "sanitised bull" that politicians who live in ivory towers expect or want us to do, in order to normalise and remove the very ideals that make different nationalities who they are and not just human beings but people with character.

I remember what happend in British Big brother, and it was strange, since there was some assaulting over there, here in Scandinavia people just made love all the time in BB.

But i don't understand this: you're English, not European. You're European in general same as I am. That's general aspect.
But things inside Europe is completely different for every 46 countries, even between such similar countries you will find big differences in meaning of life.
That's something i've been trough since i had to adopt first on Swedish way, and then to make some balance in communication with every other nation that i have contact. And that was really hard for me, but i always make room for missunderstandings and differences between nations.

I don't know what to say anymore. Maniacs are phedofilia is everywhere, even in park in the centre where children plays. But that doesn't means that i would not take my child to park and let her play with other kids just because there is some possibility to see some maniac.

[dans94]

bigbadmax, thank you for your post,

I couldn't agree more. The only thing I would add is that not all Americans (US) are the sheep the rest of the world thinks we are. Right now, our government is as close to Naziism as it could get. We know it's a bunch of crap when the president says he's going to protect us. I certainly don't want 'his' protection. I'd rather have my civil rights and fight any war on terrorism on the shores of America. I also believe that US foreign policy and greed are the reasons we were attacked. People who say the world is envious are simply nuts. They just want the same oportunities the rest of us want. Impeach Bush and Cheaney!!

Dan

[LoveLion]

I ahte to sound like Micheal Moore hear, but alot of the fear of online predators is glorified by the media. Anytime one case surfaces the news makes it out to be this huge thing and implies that these people are everywhere and your kids are and will be targeted. Crime TV shows are always glorifying these crimes to a point where you have the cast of Criminal Minds tracking down a 12 year old boy you is being auctioned off online. These scare people, because they take it as truth. The truth of the matter is these people are rare and 99.99% of kids are perfectly safe on the internet. Now obviously there are things that can increase that risk factor (i.e. putting your address online, or what school you go to, or going on open chat rooms), but I dont think putting up a picture is adding enough risk to be a problem.

In reality your child's lives are at much more risk when you drive them in your car. The number od child deaths by car each year towers over the amount of children abducted, raped, or killed because of the internet. Yet no one is going on about how unsafe and inappropriate it is to drive your child to school. We gotta keep these things in a real perspective

[BreeIsMe]

I agree....keep the children pictures off the website.
You can always share them with friends via email and photosharing features of popular IM programs.....


Bree

[TashaSW]

I agree....keep the children pictures off the website.
You can always share them with friends via email and photosharing features of popular IM programs.....


Bree

I agree, I think posting something like children's photos is great if you are talking to people personally via IM programs and sharing random pics of yourself, family, kids, pets....etc

in my view IM's are just safer than a website cause you at least know the person thats viewing it while some sicko would view the website and do who knows what.

Tasha

[Solomon]

I ahte to sound like Micheal Moore hear, but alot of the fear of online predators is glorified by the media. Anytime one case surfaces the news makes it out to be this huge thing and implies that these people are everywhere and your kids are and will be targeted. Crime TV shows are always glorifying these crimes to a point where you have the cast of Criminal Minds tracking down a 12 year old boy you is being auctioned off online. These scare people, because they take it as truth. The truth of the matter is these people are rare and 99.99% of kids are perfectly safe on the internet. Now obviously there are things that can increase that risk factor (i.e. putting your address online, or what school you go to, or going on open chat rooms), but I dont think putting up a picture is adding enough risk to be a problem.

In reality your child's lives are at much more risk when you drive them in your car. The number od child deaths by car each year towers over the amount of children abducted, raped, or killed because of the internet. Yet no one is going on about how unsafe and inappropriate it is to drive your child to school. We gotta keep these things in a real perspective

that's a very good point lovelion,

the advent of the internet is very much rocking the entire fundamental approach of the entire business world, and seeing as how they're very influential with the press, the media reacts accordingly

all of the business models of big business's have been forced into adapting to the speed with which the internet can spread information yeah or nay in regards to everything from the latest medical advancements to greenhouse friendly energy sources to the latest fashions from Paris, etc... etc...

so it certainly stands to reason that they're going to do their best to stem this advancement in tech and communication by instilling a sense of untrustingness among the masses

[Long Duck Dong]

just curious..... are the people that are against having children's pics in the website, also against having kids pics in the local newspapers, clothing brochures and advertising on tv ????

[mindfinding]

just curious..... are the people that are against having children's pics in the website, also against having kids pics in the local newspapers, clothing brochures and advertising on tv ????

There are better ways for your kids to find out about your other sides. I know if I grew up and found my mother was on a bi site, and put my picture on there with hers, I would most likely hate that woman for even daring to associate me with her sex life. Should a friend of mine, or worse, an enemy seen that, my life as a teen would be over. Its not fair.

Just my opinion mate. Cheers. :tongue:

PS, how ya been?

[Long Duck Dong]

lol mindfinding.. I was referring to the pics of kids in underwear in clothing brochures..... that are far more revealing than the kid pics in this site, and there are available for public viewing

I should have made my point a lil clearer in the other post

[mindfinding]

HAHAHA!! :tongue: I'm a dumbshit, should'a read more.

But back to my question though, how ya doin?

[PolyLoveTriad]

OK, Im going to flip flop here for a moment. I think some people come to this site to just see what it is, some come to look at nude photos, some come to meet others, some to make friends. I dont see a problem with people posting photos of their children, but on non-adult sites.

When you first register, or first come to check out this site, you have to chose wether you are 18 yrs of age or not. Thats the first warning sign that this IS an adult site. I dont think anyone should put up photos of their kids on THIS site, and Im not pointing the finger at anyone, or implying that anyone is a freak or anything, BUT... theres people who come to this site only to jerk off to the photos, and I imagine there also pedophiles who do the same on this site.

Now in defense of Dangi, tons of famous people have pics of their kids on the net. Not that they put them there but that others put them there. The media is everywhere. Its not like her daughter is the only famous parents kid on the net.

Im all for being honest with your kids. But I wouldnt let them browse this site until they were 18, but thats me.

I think Id skip putting the pictures of my children on this site.

BTW, did anyone who went and read Dagni's profile get a bit confused about her being in a lesbian marraige with a woman who is only "bi-curious"? Id think after 12 yrs, she would figure out if she liked women or not wouldnt you? :)

[LoveLion]

theres people who come to this site only to jerk off to the photos, and I imagine there also pedophiles who do the same on this site.


Ok, I imagine there are a few people who have masturbated to the profile pics, however, I doubt it is a high number and I doubt anyone would do it regularly. There is so much porn out there why would anyone bother to masturbate to a small profile pic?

AS for the pedophiles, I doubt it. Any pictures of anyones kids on this site are of them hugging their parents, or playing in the park, or finger painting, etc. Not sexual at all. If a pedophile was looking for pictures, I dont think he would find his pot of gold here. Im sure there are many other places to find much more explicit pictures. And suppose these were the kind of pics a pedophile was looking for. In that case, again there are ample better places to find them. Furthur more, if a pedophile was looking for pics of kids doing regular kid things (like the ones on the site) I dont think they would start looking at a bisexual website.

[TashaSW]

OK, Im going to flip flop here for a moment. I think some people come to this site to just see what it is, some come to look at nude photos, some come to meet others, some to make friends. I dont see a problem with people posting photos of their children, but on non-adult sites.

When you first register, or first come to check out this site, you have to chose wether you are 18 yrs of age or not. Thats the first warning sign that this IS an adult site. I dont think anyone should put up photos of their kids on THIS site, and Im not pointing the finger at anyone, or implying that anyone is a freak or anything, BUT... theres people who come to this site only to jerk off to the photos, and I imagine there also pedophiles who do the same on this site.

Now in defense of Dangi, tons of famous people have pics of their kids on the net. Not that they put them there but that others put them there. The media is everywhere. Its not like her daughter is the only famous parents kid on the net.

Im all for being honest with your kids. But I wouldnt let them browse this site until they were 18, but thats me.

I think Id skip putting the pictures of my children on this site.

BTW, did anyone who went and read Dagni's profile get a bit confused about her being in a lesbian marraige with a woman who is only "bi-curious"? Id think after 12 yrs, she would figure out if she liked women or not wouldnt you? :)

I think Dangi was saying she was in a lesbian marriage and her wife being bi-curious could be a new thing... she did mentioned a few posts up it (wife being bi-curious) started a couple years ago but is being picky whenever Dangi points out a guy.
At least thats what Im understanding although I could be wrong.
Dangi states shes bisexual so perhaps overtime it got her wife curious.
I mean, if Dangi has spoken about sex with guys, it could have started an curiously.

I'll let Dangi explain when shes on in case I got the facts wrong. Im only guessing! :)

Tasha

[Dagni]

I think i need to explain some things here about my marriedge.

I'm in lesbian marriedge since September 1996. That's something completely legal in Scandinavian countries.
I thought i was pure lesbian until i met one great guy, i told that to my wife, and she didn't wanted to accept me in that way. My wife never had any expireinces with males at all, never. She was also raised like lesbian, and had no contact with males. Neither do i.
When i discovered my bisexual side, my bisexual curiosity, i simply slept with that guy, (he came on this site too), and as a result, i got pregnant. That was ok and acceptable for both of us. She is a great parent, very protective, and yes, she's completely gorgeous.

But i simply couldn't accept to be "pure lesbian" anymore, and step by step i think i leaded Ingebjørg (my wife) to become curios to have contact with males too. She became instrested in males, but very scared to try anything.
But that's completely different problem and it's off-topic.

[TashaSW]

I think i need to explain some things here about my marriedge.

I'm in lesbian marriedge since September 1996. That's something completely legal in Scandinavian countries.
I thought i was pure lesbian until i met one great guy, i told that to my wife, and she didn't wanted to accept me in that way. My wife never had any expireinces with males at all, never. She was also raised like lesbian, and had no contact with males. Neither do i.
When i discovered my bisexual side, my bisexual curiosity, i simply slept with that guy, (he came on this site too), and as a result, i got pregnant. That was ok and acceptable for both of us. She is a great parent, very protective, and yes, she's completely gorgeous.

But i simply couldn't accept to be "pure lesbian" anymore, and step by step i think i leaded Ingebjørg (my wife) to become curios to have contact with males too. She became instrested in males, but very scared to try anything.
But that's completely different problem and it's off-topic.


That makes sense :) Sorry I got it wrong, I was just guessing but I was close... hehe she got curious cause of you!!
Do you guys have any close male friends? If hes open, could she experience with him?? Maybe she doesn't really want to try, just curious as in thoughts but thats that?

My friend Andrea was bi-curious for a short time..... she loved the idea of being with another woman and everything.... but she was scared and then decided she was to boy crazy to bother with women. So just cause someone's curious doesn't mean they want to do it.

Tasha

[Dagni]

That makes sense :) Sorry I got it wrong, I was just guessing but I was close... hehe she got curious cause of you!!
Do you guys have any close male friends? If hes open, could she experience with him?? Maybe she doesn't really want to try, just curious as in thoughts but thats that?

Close male friends? Hmm, i'm thinking how put the right definition about that. You know, Scandinavians are not that social and even what we call the best friend has it owns limits. It's not any arrogance at all inside mentality up here on north, but people are just like that. Cold, if i may say so.

My wife is bi-curious, she actually grown up with the father of my child up in northern Norway, but still.......no one's that perfect for her. She's just scared, that's all, but i can clearly see the way she look some handsome guy, you know, she actually stare at guys and every time i thought she would jump on someone, but nothing. But sex after that is yummi.

[superyumboi]

as a general rule of the majority, if not all, of dating sites you're supposed to black out anyone in the picture who isn't you.

LIBERAL to put others in your photos of your personal profile?

no.

just tacky.

[TashaSW]

as a general rule of the majority, if not all, of dating sites you're supposed to black out anyone in the picture who isn't you.

LIBERAL to put others in your photos of your personal profile?

no.

just tacky.

I think dating sites don't want other poeple in profiles so it doesn't confuse the viewer.
Ive seen photos with the caption "Me and my ex" on sites and it bugs me.... ok, it may be thier only RECENT pic but they could crop out the ex. I don't want to see an ex!!! lol Makes me think they aren't really over him/her.

[superyumboi]

I think dating sites don't want other poeple in profiles so it doesn't confuse the viewer.


perhaps. but i think it might have more to do with liabilities. who knows.

and this arguement holds NO WATER for me::

"Now in defense of Dangi, tons of famous people have pics of their kids on the net. Not that they put them there but that others put them there. The media is everywhere. Its not like her daughter is the only famous parents kid on the net."

a dating/adult site is a bit different from a blog or a frivolous media site, no?

wanna show pix of you and your kids to the world? start a blog(free) or put em on myspace(questionable, but free).

:2cents:

[Dagni]

as a general rule of the majority, if not all, of dating sites you're supposed to black out anyone in the picture who isn't you.

LIBERAL to put others in your photos of your personal profile?

no.

just tacky.

I think i was clear. I'm not represanting here just my own sexuality, i just represent Myself in general, as a person (not as a famous racer!), and simply what i puted in my profile is just me and someone who's most important for myself, that's all.
This is dating site, but i don't see the point to expose only my own sexuality, because there is always background, a huge background and it's called personality.

Ok, i posted my daughter too, she's a part of my life.
But i would probably get more attention here if i did pick up some Renault or Ferrari Formula 1 pit babes who exposed their breasts or whatever. No one would complain about that.

[sexybicplinwv]

W.O.W. I would like to thank everyone who posted something about this thread. :) Now that,that's been said i would like to say something about this, I to have children but my children are adult's ages 25/22. And still would not put pic's on of them. :female:

[TashaSW]

W.O.W. I would like to thank everyone who posted something about this thread. :) Now that,that's been said i would like to say something about this, I to have children but my children are adult's ages 25/22. And still would not put pic's on of them. :female:

Ya, I think its best to ask if its ok... not everyone wants thier pics up even if its a recent pic of yourself and they just happen to be in it.
Suppose someone they know sees the pic and gets upset at you cause you posted without thier permission?? ya, it may be your recent pic but you could crop them out of it. (or blackout/blur thier faces)

But then its everyones choices. :)

[bigbadmax]

this is obviously a fox hunting type question....you are either for it or against it.

firstly dagni...not the crappy arsed tv big brother but the orwellian(?) meaning the true meaning of big brother...you know the one where big brother is always watching you...hence the tv show name...sorry but it had to be pointed out.

on your second point...we in England are English not European, call a Celt English and they would tear you a new sphincter, thats how we in Great Britain and Northern Ireland when called Europeans.We dont have the Euro as we try and stay as far removed from europe as possible..yet have to obey even single ludicrous law thay pass.

going back to the thread....those who disagree have their values those who agree have their own set as well but only those informed can give an informed opinion :tongue:

[Dagni]

on your second point...we in England are English not European, call a Celt English and they would tear you a new sphincter, thats how we in Great Britain and Northern Ireland when called Europeans.We dont have the Euro as we try and stay as far removed from europe as possible..yet have to obey even single ludicrous law thay pass.

this is off-topic, but what can i do? I must say something:
Great Britain IS memeber of European Union. So, staying in EU you trying to remove yourself from Europe? How's that possible? Where's logic in that?
Why are you members of EU then when you try to stay away from the rest of the Europe?
And about Euro, you know, Sweden and Denmark also don't use Euro, but they are still members of EU and Europe in general,,,,like some other countries that's not part of EU (Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, etc).

Celt English,,,,,,sounds intresting, in that case, Kvens for example (my wife is Kven) also would never represent themselfs as a Europeans at all?

[Doggie_Wood]

Speaking as a mother and grandmother..the idea of a pedophile looking a pic of (for instance) my grand daughter with lust in his heart...creeps me right out! I dont find that liberating at all. :eek:

And as a father and a grandfather of an 11 yo princess who is beginning to develope into a young lady, I am sure that a pedophile(s) have spied on my little princess, but Lord have mercy if he ever thinks of practicing his thoughts. Neither my son nor myself could ever be forgiving of such a thing.

[happyjoe68]

this is off-topic, but what can i do? I must say something:
Great Britain IS memeber of European Union. So, staying in EU you trying to remove yourself from Europe? How's that possible? Where's logic in that?
Why are you members of EU then when you try to stay away from the rest of the Europe?
And about Euro, you know, Sweden and Denmark also don't use Euro, but they are still members of EU and Europe in general,,,,like some other countries that's not part of EU (Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, etc).

Celt English,,,,,,sounds intresting, in that case, Kvens for example (my wife is Kven) also would never represent themselfs as a Europeans at all?

Please dont assume that all people within the UK take such a sceptical view of the EU and Europe. Its unfortunate that these people are a very vocal MINORITY; these people are still fighting the Second World War and will never let go. Having spent a long time in Germany, I realise that its Europe which has it right, and the British who have it so wrong. Its just a pity that such minority views will drag us down into the gutter.

Britain is a part of Europe geographically, historically, culturally, and genetically. Personally, I think that the EU doesnt go far enough ...

[julie]

Getting back to the title of this thread

'JUST DON'T' makes perfect sense to me...

Julie x