becoming a bi escort...

[Long Duck Dong]

lol simple deal, I have a friend ( female ) that has decided to become a escort...again.....

and as you can quess, she is hearing everything from * god will strike you dead * to * you are degrading to women and lowering their standing in society *... and the good old * you are being used for sex, grow a brain and get a real job *.....etc etc etc

personally, I support her desire.....

shes a adult female, sound mind and body, no *extra's * to worry about.... and quite happy with her choice.... that and she was averaging $3000 a week last time....the average working wage in nz, is $25-35K a year

but we got to talking about all the opposition that she has heard.....and honestly, I have not heard anything that actually shows that her doing escort work is damaging in any way

what we both have heard, is peoples opinions about how her line of work is breaking up marriages, is demeaning and degrading to females, places her at risk for stds and aids, opens her up to possible violence, is offensive to god etc etc etc and how it will lead to drug use and porn film work......
seriously I wonder what people are smoking at times....

anyways, I thought that I would throw it in the forum and see what people think about bi escorts.....and if their opinion on escorts, is the same opinion they apply to their own lives....

[fredrickman]

I personally think it is great. She is a grown woman and if she choses to do it then we should support her. Hey tell her to look me up...

[jasforjas]

For my taste

In spite of the crap we sometimes tell ourselves - we only work for the money

Where I work we have safety folk come by and check that we are not paying a higher price than our hours for our pay.

So for :2cents: as long as we are not over looking any hidden costs :cool:

[Solomon]

i applaud her decision... i love to hear when people honestly choose to do something because it's what they want to do

[icecock6]

I´ts her life, if she enjoyes it why not, she probablee gets more than just the mony out of it. :2cents: Anyway Bi escort could be an eccelent way for a couple to widen their horizon and test if bi sex is anything for them, no strings or emotions with the third party! ;)
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[littlerayofsunshine]

Growing up I always heard the saying " They won't buy the cow if they get the milk for free?" And then the same people bitch when ya pay for the milk. Seems Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't ta me.

I say, more power to your friend or anyone that chooses that profession. The clients come to them. If anything is failing in that client's marriage/relationship/life. It doesn't have anything to do with the escort, cause it was broke along time ago.

[welickit]

Other than the risk of diseases, neither of us see anything wrong with her decision. We have had guys email us offering to pay so they can live out a fantasy. Usually involves my wife and her strapons or watching or some other fetish. Everyone enjoys something different so if your lady enjoys being a bi escort let her be happy.

[BreeIsMe]

I don't know if I agree with your assessment, Long.


Let's see.

being an escort does put you at risk for serious diseses that have no cures and are fatal!! (is that something bad----I THINK SO!)

being an escort puts you in a vulnerable position with someone you don't know and may have psychiatric problems (ie., violence) leading to physical abuse and/or death. Women (and men) escorts are more likely to be murdered than any other "profession" (is that something bad---I THINK SO!)

Yes, $3000/week is a lot of money but you have to ask yourself...Is it worth it?

Then there is the question of self respect, the affect on society, women's status, etc.

There are so many things that people can do to take advantage of their natural talent OTHER than sell sex. If it were my friend, I would do EVERYTHING in my power to help her develop other "skills"

Afterall, if she really just wants money, that does not lead to real happiness and if that is the goal she can also sell drugs, etc. (with probably an equal chance for death!)

PLEASE encourage her to do something that she is good at and even if it is for a little less money..
She will be happier in the long run!

Bree

PS I know this may sound "prudish" but I have seen so many people with HIV, etc. that doing something with a real danger is like playing Russian roulette.. why do it! I have nothing against people doing almost anything together as consenting adults partiuclarly when it is done in a safe manner but to me life is precious and taking unnecessary chances is foolish..

just my opinion, certainly not more than that...







lol simple deal, I have a friend ( female ) that has decided to become a escort...again.....

and as you can quess, she is hearing everything from * god will strike you dead * to * you are degrading to women and lowering their standing in society *... and the good old * you are being used for sex, grow a brain and get a real job *.....etc etc etc

personally, I support her desire.....

shes a adult female, sound mind and body, no *extra's * to worry about.... and quite happy with her choice.... that and she was averaging $3000 a week last time....the average working wage in nz, is $25-35K a year

but we got to talking about all the opposition that she has heard.....and honestly, I have not heard anything that actually shows that her doing escort work is damaging in any way

what we both have heard, is peoples opinions about how her line of work is breaking up marriages, is demeaning and degrading to females, places her at risk for stds and aids, opens her up to possible violence, is offensive to god etc etc etc and how it will lead to drug use and porn film work......
seriously I wonder what people are smoking at times....

anyways, I thought that I would throw it in the forum and see what people think about bi escorts.....and if their opinion on escorts, is the same opinion they apply to their own lives....

[12voltman59]

I think its just great--people dissing someone for making a living having sex just goes to show that we do have such a double standard about things sexual.

I forget exactly how George Carlin put it, but many years ago he would say something along these lines in his monologues:

"Why is it that if someone sells an orgasm--that is wrong? They are a criminal--but if they sell bombs and guns for war--they are some kind of hero--to me--the best thing you can do is to sell an orgasm and it's obscene to sell death and destruction!!!!"

I know my memory can be not so good--and I don't have George's exact words--but it was something like that---I am sure he put some juicy words in the way he said it too that I don't recall knowing his propensity for using such words in his shows...

I say to your friend---good for you ---make a ton of money--have fun and be safe!!!!

[Kittengirl]

Well, I fully support people doing what they chose if it does not harm others, however, I am a wee concerned of the damage to herself.

I had a friend years ago who was a madam, and of course, an ex-escort herself. I can't even begin to address the myriad of issues she had with men and relationships. Same thing for the girls who worked for her - they seemed to vascilate between feeling empowered of their actions, and deep self-loathing because it was an empty experience for them. I imagine your friend might go through the same highs and lows.

I am not going to preach what she should or shouldn't do. As you said, she is a grown woman, and she has done this before. However, it's been my personal experience that once you trade sex for money, it takes on a different meaning, and some people can become incapable of maintaining a healthy emotional sexual connection outside of "work". The lines blur, and the "job" ends up affecting your personal life. Plus, honestly, I am not sure of how many "healthy" men would be OK to date or marry a prostitute...

There is a certain pathology that accompanies sex workers, and if you'd like, I'd be happy to pm you on this topic. It might give you more insight into this person that you consider so "sound in mind and body".

Lastly, I would suggest in the interest of her own safety, that she get herself a madam and a driver. The madam will screen her clients, and the driver will be waiting for her, so both will add a layer of security to going out and meeting strangers.

It is also important that she realize many of the clients she will see are not just sweet, lonely men or really cool couples. There is a large contingent of maladjusted people who hire prostitutes, with their own set of personal issues, violence being included. It's important she understand many of the men she will visit have hatred towards women for rejection, etc., and may not have a problem taking this out on her.

Just things to consider...

I wish her well... :)

[innaminka]

One of my regular business' clients (she buys travel packages) is a wonderful, "soccer-mum" single lady with two daughters in a cheaper private school, a nice suburban home, dog, garden and drives a Tarago. She works two days a week as a dental assistant, goes to the footy and is plain "mrs Avaerage"
Twice a year she'll buy a holiday for herselfand her children - not cheap ones, either. We have chatted briefly.

And two days a week she does 8 hour shifts at an outer suburban brothel.

She's quite open to me about it. Its good money, its enjoyable and she has no plans in the immediate future to quit.

It takes all types to people this world.

The only profession I would criticise is professional terrorist!

[mindfinding]

I know a part of the sex for sale industry, very well actually. Girls that do it and then get out wish they never had done it to begin with.

No matter how "ready" you convince yourself you are, you regret it. And I have a moto in life and I would love to share it with you and everybody else. Its simple,..here it is....

"Try not to do things that make you wake up and feel like a son of a bitch." - Me.

Selling your sexual person makes you feel like an SOB down the road.

I'm not judging your friend, merely making a point on something I know about.

Cheers...

[Long Duck Dong]

lol I will address some of the issues lol

ok all the 14 couple clients are veted... they all came to her from a high class escort agency....they all are tested regularly and certified clean....
she doesn't do singles, only couples...and a lot of times, the *appointments * are not sexual...she often does dinners, functions etc, as she is very articulate, well presented and business savvy

she has a driver / bodyquard, who is actually a ex army buddy, so she has a person with medical training, who accompanies her.... one of the rules is that he accompanies her and on a overnight deal, he sleeps in the same apartment / hotel room ( separate room ) etc

after a bad marriage ( she left the escort work to get married but her husband decided that she has no rights, her job was to maintain the house and keep him sexually happy and it swiftly turned into a abusive marriage )...she has a number of gentlemen and couples that are interested in forming a full relationship....they are aware of what she does.....but she wants to set herself up first, so that she is a equal in a relationship / marriage

the work is purely friendship / work based and setting her up to be secure.... which is what she is doing so when she walks away from it, she retains the friendships she has built up, the business support and knowledge...and the contacts.....

as for diseases, as I said, she has a strict client base, regularly tested and certed.... its far safer than picking up couples online.....safe sex is paramount.....and so the risks are lower for her and the couples, than couples that met other couples online

her state of mind and body is brilliant.... cos as she says... they are buying time with a person...and they all get sexual pleasure......it is no different to meeting people online.... except there is money involved......
she has developed friendships with the clients, and even after she stopped last time, the friendships continued.....

with the option of a regular * 9-5 * job....she could make $550 a 40 hour week....barely enuf to pay a mortgage and support herself....and spend the next 20 years making somebody else rich....

the average escort in nz working out of a brothel, makes $120 a hour.... half goes to the brothel, they have a sex workers union....access to health care... and a marginal support network......they are regarded as sex objects...you don't ask for a person, you are wanting a fuck... and of course, the sex worker becomes like a condom.... you use them and throw them away....
hence my friend works privately and using a secure network with limited clients

personally if you remove the money factor with my friend.... there is not much difference between sleeping with friends, having a swinger lifestyle, hooking up online etc and that was the point for posting this in bisexual.com
the interesting aspect is that if you add money.... it changes everything....
but how different is it to a open marriage ( in some respects )....

[SilverWulf]

I know a part of the sex for sale industry, very well actually. Girls that do it and then get out wish they never had done it to begin with.

No matter how "ready" you convince yourself you are, you regret it. And I have a moto in life and I would love to share it with you and everybody else. Its simple,..here it is....

"Try not to do things that make you wake up and feel like a son of a bitch." - Me.

Selling your sexual person makes you feel like an SOB down the road.

I'm not judging your friend, merely making a point on something I know about.

Cheers...

My wife was an escort for awhile, for a year or so. She has no regrets, she doesn't wake up feeling bad.

She enjoyed it and often says that if we lived in a larger community she would do it again (which, btw, I would be fine with).

She doesn't have mental issues, she wasn't abused as a child, isn't abused now.

I am sure that some girls do regret it, but certainly not all.

[darkeyes]

When I was at uni my m8 at one time was so broke that she was seriously considering taking up escorting (or "hoorin" as she would put it) to stop her from having to finish her course.Its quite common among students here which is a sad indictment of our uni education system of funding. Luckily this was not necessary because some of us clubbed in and gave her sufficent money to help her through. However, Anyone who chooses to earn money from sex I say good luck to them. My only caveat is that no areshole pimp is involved (in the old fashioned sense of the word) to rake of so much money, to ply them with dope or generally enslave them that they do not benefit from their profession and are placed in dangers thay need not be.

If I was desperate enough I make no bones about it, I may indeed sell myself to make some money. I would prefer not to, but as my old dad is so fond of saying "There for the grace of God..." So carry on and good luck..just be safe and make sure YOU get the material rewards not some other tosser!!!

[mindfinding]

Silverwulf,

It doesn't have much to do with being abused, or having mental issues.

The internet is a very emotionless tool, so let me say I'm not trying to be irritant.

[pole_smoker]

My wife was an escort for awhile, for a year or so. She has no regrets, she doesn't wake up feeling bad.

She enjoyed it and often says that if we lived in a larger community she would do it again (which, btw, I would be fine with).

She doesn't have mental issues, she wasn't abused as a child, isn't abused now.

I am sure that some girls do regret it, but certainly not all.
Were you her pimp?

A simple internet search shows how you are into abusing women, and your wife.

[ohbimale]

I was a bisexual male escort about 25 years ago and I enjoyed it. I decided that I may as well get paid for what I enjoy. I went into it knowing 99% of my clients would be guys and I was fine with it because I wanted dick and figured I may as well get paid for swallowing cock and cum. I enjoyed it and looked forward to going down on my customers. I support her and wish her the best.

[sweecocksucker69]

I've have had a couple of men how much was I going to pay then for me to suck their cock's and for them to seed me. My reply was: What kind of fool do you take me for? I do all the work, what with me sucking your cock and then you fucking me. I say this will cost you the motel room and 300 dollars each, I'm not a cheap whore. Their reply was I'm sorry we're find a cheaper one.

[pole_smoker]

I've have had a couple of men how much was I going to pay then for me to suck their cock's and for them to seed me. My reply was: What kind of fool do you take me for? I do all the work, what with me sucking your cock and then you fucking me. I say this will cost you the motel room and 300 dollars each, I'm not a cheap whore. Their reply was I'm sorry we're find a cheaper one.
Heh, I'm still not sure why anyone would pay for a whore since there are lots of people who will willingly have sex with you for free?

[sweecocksucker69]

Hay A/H you only read what you want to read Please reread I first said that they wanted ME to paid them for the use of my body.

[pole_smoker]

Hay A/H you only read what you want to read Please reread I first said that they wanted ME to paid them for the use of my body.
Yes, and based on the picture of yourself wearing women's underwear, and being obese, and your posts where you show how you're not a nice person, what woman, man, or any sort of couple would want you, or your tiny meat?

I'm not flaming you I'm just simply stating a fact. The majority of people don't find an old man that's into wearing women's underwear, that's obese, who is a jaded bitter queen, and who has a tiny dick to be attractive even if they are bisexual.