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onewhocares
Mar 13, 2007, 8:09 AM
I am Belle and I am from Boston and I was reading with glee the responses on the "other" post about fat women. Deremarc had a wonderful idea....to extol the virtues and physical attraction of a rubenesque women. So the light bulb went on. Now it is not my common place to say one type of person on this wonderful site is better than another, that is SO not me, but I thought that perhaps we might be able to share with each other the pleasures of being attracted to a curvaceous woman.

Although I do not have a photo on here...I have not figured out how to get it on here.... I can comment. For I AM a six foot tall, blonde hair, hazel eyed woman whom Ruben would have loved to have painted. Was there a time when I was self conscious...yes, I admit that. But with maturity and understanding I have learned it is what is really inside your soul that counts, I accepted myself. Being treated differently by others has less to do with them and more to the perception of MOI.

I also have been SO SO fortunate to have meet both in person and on line many of the members of this site. So far....I have not had a man run in disgust. Rather feeling my long arms giving them a hug upon meeting and know that I am what I am, a true and genuine person, makes many people, both male and female happy to be in my presence. Our world is a wonderful place and it takes so many different people to make it whole.

So, ladies and gentlemen,,,,what do you have to say.........


Belle

hemphizzxx
Mar 13, 2007, 8:21 AM
u sound truly georgeous

real sexiness comes from within IMO

trip1
Mar 13, 2007, 8:36 AM
Speaking for myself at 5ft 10in I love ladies from short to 6ft and taller....

Domino
Mar 13, 2007, 8:48 AM
Curvy. There are many different versions of " Curvy" I have seen fat woman describe themselves as curvy.

I consider myself curvy I am an australian size 12-14. 173cm I am broad sholdered, and work out.

As far as I am concerend "Curvy" is in the eye of the beholder. Curvy can mean fat, or curvy can mean average, I am sure I would be fat to some guys. The type tha fel size 10 is normal.

I don't think anyone should feel bad about their physicail appearence, because it is their soul that counts, and if someone can't see that then they are not worth worrying about.

Tommy2020
Mar 13, 2007, 9:38 AM
IMHO....
Women in general are to be respected and admired. I, as stated in my profile, abhor/hate porno that degrades women as much as I abhor/hate kiddie porno and the people that produce it.
My wife of over 20 years is short, plump, and was the most loving and supportive person of them all when I was recovering from cancer and remains so to this day.
During my very early years of childhood I personally witnessed spousal abuse of the most inhumane sort when my uncle abused my aunt. He was a cruel person to her and other women around them. Unfortunately during those days, there was no such thing as adequate laws to protect women in that situation and, the laws back then didn't do much of anything other than wink and look the other way, especially since my uncle was a local, small time politician.
So, without getting on another soapbox, let me finish by saying that women, God Bless 'em everyone. Short, plump, tall, skinny, white, black, brown, yellow, red and maybe even green (?). They are all part of this 'human race' and despite the covers they come in, all have hearts and souls and somehow, somehow, even though some may be hard to understand, are to be loved by us all.
Tommy2020 :soapbox:

Mrs.F
Mar 13, 2007, 10:06 AM
Belle, you are such a wonderful person. :angel: As a straight wife married to a bi man and also overweight and insecure....my husband tells me everyday that I am sexy and he loves me. To me size doesn't matter...and I have met some very wonderful people on here. Getting to the know the real person they are inside just by talking to them.

Thank you Belle for your post... :grouphug: :angel:

kitten
Mar 13, 2007, 10:13 AM
Pleasingly Plump, curvy, love handles, cushion-for-the-pushin, there's more of you to love, full-figured, womanly, ewe's not fat ewe's fluffy(from a t-shirt with sheep on it for pregnant women)...
I am all of the above and work on it constantly maintaining my health.

It's kinda like the thread about penis size - the skill with which it is used makes the passion...

Tommy2020
Mar 13, 2007, 10:18 AM
Pleasingly Plump, curvy, love handles, cushion-for-the-pushin, there's more of you to love, full-figured, womanly, ewe's not fat ewe's fluffy(from a t-shirt with sheep on it for pregnant women)...
I am all of the above and work on it constantly maintaining my health.

It's kinda like the thread about penis size - the skill with which it is used makes the passion...

Kitten....
Referencing your posting about penis size, "the skill with which it is used makes the passion..."
I once heard a quote that goes like this. "it's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean that counts." :devil:
Have a great day.
Tommy2020

You know it's going to be a bad day when 20-20 is on your doorstep at 0800 hours.

TashaSW
Mar 13, 2007, 10:42 AM
I like curvy women :)

Most girls Ive been attracted to are curvy. :)
Size DOESN'T matter to me cause I look for who they are on the inside... loving, caring, honest, trusting, the kind of person they are inside.

The body is just a "carrying case" for the soul.

darkeyes
Mar 13, 2007, 10:51 AM
Me likes curvy women 2. Likes most shapes but really have a thing bout taller women which is odd since serious relationships have always been with girls around my height or maybe a jus a lil bit taller, cos in end mostly likes an am attracted 2 fun peeps who hav personality an a really gud sense of humour. If they don then me jus drive's em crazy! Tend 2 do that wiv most peeps ne ways. :bigrin:

Solomon
Mar 13, 2007, 10:55 AM
all i have to say is flex is definately curvaceous, short, but curvaceous hehehee :bigrin:

diamond_tether
Mar 13, 2007, 11:14 AM
The Lady of the couple kind of gets it from both sides because she's definitely not skinny, but she's also not quite big enough for the die-hard BBW fans. She's just a short, soft, very curvy woman. It's gotten her some negative responses here and there. We've both always preferred thicker playmates to thinner ones, there's more flesh and softness to love on, lol. We've both had thinner partners, of course and enjoyed them a very great deal - we've just got a soft (and hard!) spot for larger folks.

yoyo4u
Mar 13, 2007, 12:36 PM
.... the "other" post about fat women.... the pleasures of being attracted to a curvaceous woman.........

All women in my life were always petite, yet curvaceous (well-proportioned feminine figures).

I don't keep statistics of the slightly overweight (I don't like the word=fat) women I've ever encountered in my life, but my observation is that.....they are more open, funnier, dance better(!) than their skinny counterparts :) although I've always received the pleasures from the latter.

The heaviest woman I had sex with, weighed less than 130 lbs........did I miss something? :rolleyes:

yoyo

bi-robin-calif
Mar 13, 2007, 2:34 PM
There are many problems associated with having been brainwashed by Madison Avenue into thinking that skinny is best, not the least of which is it's terribly unromantic to jump on somebody and hear their bones crunch...

But just as I refuse to limit my desires to a single sex, so do I not limit them to a single phenotype. There are times when I enjoy a thin woman, but there are just as many times I prefer to wallow in the arms of an earth-mother.

The same goes for men: thin young twinks are sweet, but as a steady diet they, just like chocolate, would be cloying. Men and women with more flesh on their bones are much more nutritious and appealing to a "meat-and-potatoes" kind of guy.

You just gotta eat a balanced diet! :bigrin:

And Belle, six feet?!? To me, two of the biggest turn-ons regarding women is height and intellect. Give me a tall, intelligent woman and I'll follow her anywhere...

seafer
Mar 13, 2007, 3:08 PM
IMHO....
Women in general are to be respected and admired. I, as stated in my profile, abhor/hate porno that degrades women as much as I abhor/hate kiddie porno and the people that produce it.
My wife of over 20 years is short, plump, and was the most loving and supportive person of them all when I was recovering from cancer and remains so to this day.
During my very early years of childhood I personally witnessed spousal abuse of the most inhumane sort when my uncle abused my aunt. He was a cruel person to her and other women around them. Unfortunately during those days, there was no such thing as adequate laws to protect women in that situation and, the laws back then didn't do much of anything other than wink and look the other way, especially since my uncle was a local, small time politician.
So, without getting on another soapbox, let me finish by saying that women, God Bless 'em everyone. Short, plump, tall, skinny, white, black, brown, yellow, red and maybe even green (?). They are all part of this 'human race' and despite the covers they come in, all have hearts and souls and somehow, somehow, even though some may be hard to understand, are to be loved by us all.
Tommy2020 :soapbox:

Tommy I love you for this message you put forth.. you will be very loved for the rest of your life!!! :bigrin:

yoyo4u
Mar 13, 2007, 5:17 PM
Tommy I love you for this message you put forth.. you will be very loved for the rest of your life!!! :bigrin:

Can I be very loved for the rest of my life too???? :bigrin: :bigrin:

For the first 43 years of my life I've loved almost exclusively women only. If anything - now as I have first hand (sometimes) experience how you feel - I have an even deeper respect and love for all women!!!

I love you ALL!
yoyo

happyjoe68
Mar 13, 2007, 6:28 PM
me piace le donne con i corpi curve

usedbear1950
Mar 13, 2007, 6:31 PM
u sound truly georgeous

real sexiness comes from within IMO

Take is from me, she is beautiful....and so is Mrs. F...and the only thing fat about these women is the capacity of their hearts. They are strong, loving and honest women...Of course when it comes to 'fat' hearts...I can name so many people on this site. Some have posted on this thread.

ur ever luvin
usedbear

meteast chick
Mar 13, 2007, 6:47 PM
Wow, I honestly never thought I'd see some of these words typed by a man. Maybe I'm just conditioned to think that all men care about is the appearance, I don't know. I know my dad constantly badgered me about my weight as a child and my mother for being overweight when they were still married, and my current physician brings the BMI chart when I go in for a cold! Puhleeze! I'm 5'7" and 150lbs, size 10-12 American. I didn't think that was obese!? I do know that I was plump growing up, had a major growing spurt and was thin until I got pregnant with my first child. At that time, my body resisted and I didn't gain much. Then I got pregnant with my second child 6 months later. Lets just say my body said 'why do I try?". It took until last year to lose it and I believe I have about 15-20 lbs left to go. I don't like being heavy, it makes me feel like less of a person. It's great for those who think it's sexy. I've seen many woman who looked terrific overweight and wouldn't if they weren't. I'm just not one of them.

So kudos Belle, I've seen pics of you and you are gorgeous, hun. Frankly, if you weren't physically beautiful, it wouldn't matter, because your soul radiates out. Same to many of you here.

much luv and kisses,
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
meteast

onewhocares
Mar 13, 2007, 11:21 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen......

This was not, nor do I think this post was intended to be about me. I am just an ordinary woman who can not stand by and let an unjustice radiate. I have, I shall humbly admit that I have caused a stir or two....remember Allbi and Toro? Yet amoungst all the triffling, I remained true to me. To the woman I am, and more importantly to the woman I ASPIRE to be. Coming to this site, was in the begining, just for my sweet hubby Willby. But guess what? It was I who found a wonderful world of people....be they all sizes, shapes, heights, nationalities, colors, and mind sets. I embraced you all for YOU have given ME the wings to grow as a person, a woman, a wife, a lover, and SO SO SO importantly as a friend.

When I first came here I was apprehensive about the reception I would receive. Oh my....I was welcomed with open arms by Kate, Arana, Sparks, Beloved Smurf, Archey and so many more. But amoung you was a Bear, used but so full of life. We developed a friendship that transcends the barriors of sex, race, height (ok I had to throw that in cause I am SO tall) and so much more. I, and I am sure many have developed deep and lasting friendships with man of the people on the site. I guess when I think about the past year and a half or so...so many MEN, yes MEN have been important in my life...David, Brian, Miro, Hal, Peter, Rick, Tom, Nick, Harrison, Dan, John, Fran, Rob, Fred, ok.... I am old and blonde and well the memory fades.
Have there been lovers......YES, YES, YES. But being accepted and well, really accepting yourself is what I wish we all could do. No one should tell us what we should or must look like. As a woman of curves and height, and length and eye color I shall will all my sisters...Arana, Kate, Mrs. F. Gina, Kitten, Angelina, Sexy Leopard, Huney, Meta,Macy,Tasha, Ruth, Country Lover, Lady D, Adora.......and those who are too numerous to mention the joy of being a woman, for the love of women and MEN.

Belle

sailorashore
Mar 14, 2007, 2:17 AM
Belle~~
When I think about some of the best things about coming to this website, having met you is somewhere right up there near the top of the list.
We live in a society that, unfortunately, gets many of its values from a constant bombardment of images from television and magazines that are driven by a huge advertising industry which in turn is fueled by billions of dollars from clothing and cosmetic conglomerates. Until very recently their idea of feminine pulchritude included anorexic stick figures who mostly served as animated clothes-hangars. Even before Rubens was painting his beautiful nudes, the sculptors of ancient Greece and Rome showed us the gold-standard of truly beautiful women. Venus was NOT a size 10.
Like every American male of my generation, I grew up reading, or should I say perusing, Playboy magazine. I was conditioned to lust after air-brushed (who knew?) images of unblemished, wasp-waisted women with almost superhuman mammary developement, draped in sheer lingerie atop spike heels. Geez, I mean gimme a break! It took me awhile, but I eventually figured out that that wasn't what beauty was about. (btw, meteast--that was unfair. A lot of guys, many more than you might think, are smarter than that.)
Most of the lovers in my life have been of generous proportion, and ALL of them are beautiful as near as I can tell. And SEXY?! Hell, buxom ain't a bad word in my dictionary. Real women have curves, and for that I will be forever grateful.
Thanks, Belle, for the nice reminder.
sailorashore :male:

onewhocares
Mar 14, 2007, 9:01 AM
Sailor....

What a marvelous thing to say. I can say that I was welcomed by kind and self knowing people as yourself. I agree with your comments how it is in so many respects the society around us that can cause people to think they have to be one way or another. Being able to find yourself amid all this hoopla can be difficult. Conditioning of the brain. I have alway been of the opinion that being a really tall...six foot girl who loves to wear heels too. would make me stand out in a crowd. I know that with out even meeting me, people will remember the image that I first portray, and in that vein, I always try and appear well groomed, well dressed and be the genuine woman I am. Life it too short to put out images that are not true. Well, I shall say I am thrilled to have met you too.

Belle

Krystal
Mar 14, 2007, 9:49 AM
Hi, Thank you for this post ! For a couple of reasons
1. I have never been skinny but have been at both ends of the scale. (just not the extremes) ...I was overweight and decided i wanted to be 'able to fit in those dresses that never seemed to come in my size' so i lost weight ...the hard way i walked i exercised til i got to what i thought was a 'good weight'' then 2 months later i fell pregnant ( i blame looking so damn hot for that one !) :bigrin: then it took me 5 years to lose that weight as i had doubled ! my weight during pregnancy but no-one realised it was cause i was so depressed i didnt care as well as finding i had hypothyroism, my weight fluctuated until i got the medication at the right dose. Finally got back to MY ideal weight (which is the weight that i FEEL comfortable at , its not about the number on the scales for me) Then 2 years later i fell pregnant again ...and again my weight zoomed upward, that was three years ago ...i am at my heaviest now but have been working with my endocronologist and a nutritionalist to get my weight back on track (even though i am not HUGE to me i am not comfortable) i need to be able to maintain a stable weight, the people who see only my weight i don't give a second thought to cause i KNOW that i am a decent honest caring loving person and that i have ALWAYS been those things no matter what weight i have been.
2. Needing reassurance though is another reason i thank you for this post ...to just know there are people out there who see beyond the 'outside' of a person, i have been losing 1 kg per week. i know i am doing something about making myself healthier and fitter, but the average person i pass in the street doesnt see that...Nice to know some do !!!!
3. I am about to meet a woman on friday who i have been talking to on the phone for a few weeks (we have similar interests, are both bi, both have never physically been with a woman) i almost decided i'm not going to go ....i was about to back out cause of my weight............
THANK YOU !

Rhuth
Mar 14, 2007, 11:57 AM
I am about to meet a woman on friday who i have been talking to on the phone for a few weeks (we have similar interests, are both bi, both have never physically been with a woman) i almost decided i'm not going to go ....i was about to back out cause of my weight............
THANK YOU !Oh, sweetie! The fear of rejection can sometimes be overpowering. We women did not grow up with the conditioning that sailorashore was talking about. Our magazines told us that we were inadequate, but somehow the playboy girl didn’t enter into our fantasies.

Think back to your first crush on a woman. How would that woman hold up to the playboy ideal? You are not even concerned about whether your date will hold up to that ideal. If she’s ugly, will you run?

Of course you won’t because you have already made the connection that is important to you on the phone. There is a good chance that she is having the same anxieties as you. She is worried about what you will think of her and not if you are pleasing to the eye. Concentrate on how you are going to alleviate her fears of inadequacy, and you will find the self-confidence to push your fears away.

That being said, I wanted to chime in on my love of curvy women too!

There is absolutely no body type that I disdain. I love ‘em all! Somehow women seem to be more able to have the same attitude that sailorashore does. Maybe it is because the magazines never actually marketed to us what to fantasize about. Whatever the reason, I am glad. I am glad we are not all one shape, size, and color.

A big girl feels so sensual and right! Cuddling is just to die for. I could stay all week in her arms. *shakes head* Sorry. Yes, I am thinking of a particular big girl right now. I love that there is no need for sucking in the gut in attempt to attract. We can relax and be ourselves… which is so much more beautiful!

greg232a
Mar 14, 2007, 2:37 PM
i heard this somewhere...............fat bottom girls you make the rockin world go round.........love em

Fire Lotus
Mar 14, 2007, 2:59 PM
i heard this somewhere...............fat bottom girls you make the rockin world go round.........love em

Queen. Bless you Freddie. :color:

genera101.2
Mar 14, 2007, 9:12 PM
I love your post and wish I was closer to met you two. I love curvy women; I am not one who wants the super skinny types that would make me feel fat. I expect a certain amount of age weight gain, it is expected and after having children. In fact that is attractive to me however, there also comes a point when…

searchingbrian
Mar 14, 2007, 11:49 PM
Belle,
You already know what I have to say:
You are one incredible, sexy, beautiful, curvateous (sp?) woman
I am thrilled to call you my friend!!

Brian

innaminka
Mar 14, 2007, 11:59 PM
I guess as a card-carrying member of the Curvy-Woman Union, I can state without fear of favour that all women are wonderful. Curvy, Straightish, petite, Rubenesque - whatever!
We all smell, feel, taste, talk and perform in our own wonderfully individual way.
And its all GOOD!
:female: :tong: :female: :tong: :female:

Woahman
Mar 15, 2007, 1:39 AM
I feel the need to actually post in this one.

I myself am what i shall call "larger than average", curvaceous, fat, i dont care what people try and label me and the thing is neither should anyone else. Sure i would get upset if someone called me some kind of horrible name, but who wouldnt?! Unless a person knows me... i dont believe they have a right to have judgement, and those that DO know me wont judge because they know what type of person i really am.

Who decides what "Average" is? In a post up there somewhere *waves hands about in an upward motion* there is a post about size 10 being average (aust sizing) who is to say that is normal? NO ONE can say what is average and what isnt. It is all open to interpretation where one person thinks you arent attractive, another will certainly think you are a goddess. You just have to know yourself that you are a goddess. :bowdown:

I personally think that a woman with a little meat on her bones is far more attractive than a stick thin woman. A female is suposed to have a little something there.... that is... NNOOTT meaning to scrutinise the weight of thinner women! But i perfer the curvy woman, OR MAN for that matter... I feel much safer in the embrace of a person with some padding! :flag4:

well.. there is my.. 2? 4? maybe 6 cents?! hehe but there you go.

Krystal
Mar 15, 2007, 8:09 AM
know what ??? you are right ... i am going ! i am proud of who i am ... i know who i am ...and if it were reverse it wouldn't bother me ...so why should it bother me that it MAY bother her !!??
if it does then she's too judgemental too quickly for me to like having her in my life cause as far as i see it if what i look like is the ONLY thing that makes her run (if she were to run) then shes not worth my time BECAUSE .....
in old age ...looks fade...but personality and your ability to communicate doesn't :bigrin:

kitten
Mar 15, 2007, 8:28 AM
I'm happy for you to go ahead with your plans Krystal. Best wishes with your meet.
The warmth in this thread is incredible! My heart has grown tenfold in size to be amongst such goodness!

Krystal
Mar 15, 2007, 9:56 AM
i just got this in my email

As we grow up, we learn that even the one person that wasn't supposed to
ever let you down probably will. You will have your heart broken probably
more than once and it's harder every time. You'll break hearts too, so
remember how it felt when yours was broken. You'll fight with your best
friend. You'll blame a new love for things an old one did. You'll cry
because time is passing too fast, and you'll eventually lose someone you
love. So take too many pictures, laugh too much, and love like you've
never been hurt because every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute
of happiness you'll never get back.

Don't be afraid that your life will end,
be afraid that it will never begin.
~anonymous~

matterinhand
Mar 15, 2007, 12:59 PM
Try "Big girl (you are beautiful)" by Mika

http://bitandpieces.multiply.com/music/item/202

Krystal
Mar 17, 2007, 9:57 AM
Well i went ....I was at the 'arranged meeting place' and waited and waited and txt and got a reply that she was held up and that she would txt when on her way (i had moved from arranged meeting place but kept txting to let her know) and she didn't turn up !!! I have to admit it did occur to me that she may have turned up 'checked me out' and left but no, when i txt at the end of the day i said that it probably was best that we didnt meet anyway and she has asked that we try a meeting on another day (was suppose to be today but she txt early this morning to say she was called to work) :( never mind...may happen just not sure i can go through that again !
BUT !!!!
for those who read my very first post asking if i should tell friend how i felt about her and that i was bi... I DID IT TODAY !!!!!!!! YAY ME !!!!!!!!! :bigrin:
I said what had to be said and left , letting her decide if we could continue a friendship.
I feel good ......

willbeyours2
Mar 17, 2007, 10:31 AM
My Dear Sweet Belle,

I wanted to let everyone know that YOU are the most beautiful special person I know..... And I can say that as I am the lucky one that gets to share your life on a daily basis. You are my Wife, Lover. Best Friend and most importantly Soul Mate. I love that you are tall and curvy... YOU make me proud to walk into a room with you !!! But the real key here is that you are beautiful on the inside as well as the outside... It is the inner beauty that shines thru and makes YOU all the more special. Thank you for taking this journey we call life with me. I have never loved you more or been prouder of you !!!


With all my heart,

Bill

bi-robin-calif
Mar 17, 2007, 4:54 PM
Bill, I hope you realize just how many of us are jealous of you!

What can I say? As John Mellencamp put it, "Just another boring romantic, that's me!"

m.in.heels&hose
Mar 17, 2007, 5:16 PM
I have to have my say here!!!


I have ALWAYS been attracted to the larger, extra curvy woman

and i really think rueben should have his very own holiday

Blessed be she, the full figured woman

i have found that these woman are more forgiving, more understanding, and more loving, and last but not least more open minded


i know each & every one of you have a preferance towards the way your body size is described ( BBW, full figured, more to love, plump, heavy set, ruebenesque, fluffy, etc.etc.) i for one DO NOT care for the term "fat"


and i also know of a few who dont care for a few of these terms either

i have known more than a few woman who were "plus sized" and in better physical shape than i am and are very health conscious as well

i feel its not only degrading to woman, its degrading to every person who is over weight (me included)

thank you for letting me have my say
:soapbox:

MIHH

:flag3:

FriedDuck
Mar 18, 2007, 4:45 AM
I am bigger but I try to exercise and eat right too.

onewhocares
Mar 21, 2007, 8:00 PM
Hi All,

I started this post as a response to some comments about Fat Women. I thought that it would give another side to the size issue. What I have seen here is the wonderful way women and the men who love them see themselves. No journey is easy in life, and the more we like the inner person inside, the road ahead will be filled with joy and wonder. No one should go alone. I know because I have one of the best men to travel my road. Willbe you are the world, my world. I am lucky to share your journey.

Belle

sammie19
Mar 22, 2007, 8:18 AM
My partner is tall and curvy, and I think perfect but I suppose I am biased. I on the other hand am a bit straight up and down and while not exactly boyish I would love to have a few more of the curves she has.

darkeyes
Mar 22, 2007, 3:55 PM
My partner is tall and curvy, and I think perfect but I suppose I am biased. I on the other hand am a bit straight up and down and while not exactly boyish I would love to have a few more of the curves she has.even me has more curves than u hav Sam..tee hee. x