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Lorcan
Aug 28, 2005, 12:12 AM
I was looking at the poll on this site. This disturbs me. Nearly half of us don't care what the politicians do to us.
Sheesh. I think i'm about to become a militant activist. :bipride:

Notochordates evolve!
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wellred
Aug 28, 2005, 12:37 AM
Hello Lorcan,

I am from Colorado, too, so I know a bit about the political climate in your community. I concur with your position. This poll has bothered me for a while, also.

I am unclear if it is the wording of the questions or whether a large percentage of us truly don't hold the civil rights of humanity as a top priority. Most of us, including myself, are so caught in our daily lives that we (I) don't take time or put energy into the more global issues.

However, I am surprised (as reflected in this poll) that this group does not believe more in the importance of personal freedoms, including sexual rights and associated freedoms. My error in assumptions about these poll results confirms that I cannot pretend to understand the beliefs of another. Perhaps, through dialogue I will begin to understand the thinking of others better.

From my perspective there are, of course, other issues to be considered when voting, but I believe the character of the political candidate is fundamentally based upon how he or she honors all people and their personal rights, as well as government's responsibility to afford and protect those rights.

Ok, I'm jumping off my soapbox, lol. I would value hearing from others on this topic, especially those having an opposing view. I want to understand.

- Red

EbyKat
Aug 28, 2005, 9:00 AM
I was rather surprised as well.
I quite understand choosing the middle ground and using their position on sexual rights as a part of the whole in decision making, but to ignore it completely?

Perhaps that's not how some viewed the question. But it's important to think about.

It's been established between my older (by a year) sister and myself that we can't discuss polotics. She gets angry about it and doesn't even want to hear what I have to say even if it's only that I'm hurt that she would vote for Bush for a second term knowing his views on gay marriage.

I think people don't think about that part so much.

dexter
Aug 28, 2005, 11:06 AM
I am a teacher and a bisexual man. How anyone who is one or both of these can vote Republican is simply beyond me. The GOP is against nearly everything I believe in and stand for. Maybe it proves that some people just don't want to know.

When I am in San Francisco it thrills me to see the huge gay pride flag flying at the end of Market Street at the edge of the Castro/Noe Valley neighborhood. I wonder how many votes the GOP gets there? At least gay people, the majority anyway, seem to think lots clearer than some of us bisexuals.

I'll bet some of the people in Germany who voted for National Socialism in 1933 were surprised to find themselves "relocated" shortly thereafter. Will history repeat itself?

I hope this missive totally pisses off the right-wingers who frequent this room.

m.in.heels&hose
Aug 28, 2005, 1:10 PM
this is rather disturbing, that nearly half of us dont care about what the politicians do about gay marriage, i for one feel it should be ok for two people of the same sex to be wed,
i know alot of gay people who have been with the same partner for 10 years or more
as far as im concerned, i dont feel its all about "family" traditions or roles, its just a bunch of hype, i feel there are by far, more single parent familys in america (sorry to all my canandian friends) and what family values do these children have (give it a good thought) i feel it would be better to have 2 parents in the family even if its 2 moms or 2 dads!
i am normally quiet conservative, but the goverment should have no control over who can marry who (afterall, love has no bounds) or does it?


thank you for letting me have my say in this! :2cents:

wanderingrichard
Aug 28, 2005, 3:45 PM
lorcan is right. while i don't ususally get involved in politics all that much, we need to step up and defend our personal dignities and rights of self governance. politicians only listen to those wheels that squeak loudest and right now that is the fundamentailist homophobes.. we need to show that there are more of us in this society than they realize and that we do fit in whether they like it or not.