Concerning disgusting vagina perception

[sylvon]

I am concerned because I think that the vagina is disgusting. I've enjoyed straight sex, but I've never wanted to give a woman oral pleasure or finger her. Indeed, I might even fear these things.

Does anyone else share my opinion?

I've just recently vocalized that I am not 100% straight. I'm not sure how to explain myself yet. I definately am attracted to women. But I've on occassion been attracted to men. Perhaps I've just surpressed any attraction to men? Perhaps my attraction to women is artificial? Perhaps my attraction to men is superficial? Are these common concerns?

Thanks

[ambi53mm]

I think only you can determine whether it should be an area of concern. I have met two people that seemed to hold that same opinion and they were both homosexual. I would imagine that maybe in different sort of way that some women might consider having oral sex with another women's vagina as somewhat disgusting but by the same token, some males may see having oral sex with another male's cock as disgusting. Different strokes for different folks I guess. The upside to your point of view is that, it leaves that much more for those of us that adore that most "sacred" part of a woman.

Ambi :)

[Sparks]

Dude, with all due respect, you need professional help. :2cents:

[welickit]

You never said whether you have had sex with another man. Have you sucked a cock? Fucked a guy or had a guy fuck you? We assume you have not. Once you do it is possible you will find that pussy is the lesser of two evils. You may also find that men are what you prefer. We both prefer the best of both worlds and don't find either disgusting. Could be that you just need to get out there and get more experience before making a final decision. Just our :2cents:

[Michael623]

Dude, with all due respect, you need professional help. :2cents:
I second that.

[tommyswing]

I am concerned because I think that the vagina is disgusting. I've enjoyed straight sex, but I've never wanted to give a woman oral pleasure or finger her. Indeed, I might even fear these things.

Does anyone else share my opinion?

I've just recently vocalized that I am not 100% straight. I'm not sure how to explain myself yet. I definately am attracted to women. But I've on occassion been attracted to men. Perhaps I've just surpressed any attraction to men? Perhaps my attraction to women is artificial? Perhaps my attraction to men is superficial? Are these common concerns?

Thanks

I think everything in your second paragraph is a possibility. I have always loved every vagina I've been lucky enough to come in contact with, the warmth wetness ECT. I have known some women who won't go down on a guy because they considered it disgusting, and some men that won't go down on women because they consider it disgusting. Personality how someone could consider a nice wet pussy or a hard cock disgusting is beyond me.

We never talked about sex in me home, so I learned a lot about it from my peers. Our informed consensus was pussys smelled like low tide and if you did eat one it would most likely make you sick. I remember my first time; I went down on a women, it was only as a rite of passage. I was prepared to have to vomit. Not only was I surprised to find the smell was really nice but the taste was intoxicating and exciting. I had to make myself do it first before I saw it was all in my head.

If your revulsion is not from being gay, you may try to desensitize yourself. I would write down your self-talk concerning how disgusting vigina's are and then stick you finger in one and compare the reality to what your head is telling you. That should help clarify where you’re coming from. I do believe one can be taught to believe the vagina is disgusting. The web has a lot of desensitizing procedures
Good luck with all this

[little clown]

Hi Sylvon,

I'm not a man, so I guess this question wasn't meant for me, but I think I have known someone who had similar issues concerning vaginas.
A couple of years ago, I had sexual intercourse with a man who avoided touching my vagina with anything other than his penis.
When he said "put my cock into your pussy", I didn't immediately realize he said this because he was afraid to get near my genitalia with his fingers.
Let's face it, it's the kinda of request that's also made by a lot of men who love to touch women's private parts. But at some point during sex, I realized that although he enthusiastically touched me everywhere else, he avoided getting his fingers near my genitals.
I asked him if he was repulsed by the idea to touch my vulva, whether he thought there was anything dirty about my genitalia. He then told me he didn't think it was dirty and that he wasn't repulsed by any part of my body, but that he didn't touch my private parts because he'd never touched any woman's private parts before.
A peculiar answer I thought, avoiding doing something because you haven't done it before. There was a first time for everything else he'd ever done. It hadn't stopped him from doing other things. So why only apply this policy here? And why is it alright for him to have his penis there, but not his fingers or his tongue, I wondered. Yes, there was no direct contact with my skin. There was a condom around his penis, but that was only because I didn't want to have sex without one. (Although he'd had had sex with several women before me, I had to teach him how to use condoms.)
Despite his assurance that he didn't think there was anything dirty about my vulva, I spend a little time talking about female genitalia with him. I don't know what it was I said that made him ask me if he could look at my genitals from nearby, but he did. As he looked at everything he asked me what everything was called in Dutch and English (he was from Iran).
After everything had been named (he was very interested in learning the names of all the different parts) he carefully reached out his fingers to touch my private parts. I could tell by the look on his face he didn't feel comfortable about touching it, so I told him he didn't have to if he didn't want to. Although he took his fingers away at that point, he did touch me there later (without me tasking him I I would) and it was apparent he felt more comfortable about it every time he did.
As I mentioned, he was from Iran, a country in which sexuality is not openly discussed. Children don't get sex education at school and there where no safe sex programs at the time (I don't know if that's changed since then, but somehow I doubt it)
I think his "fear" of touching my genitals stemmed from a lack of knowledge of the female body.

Now, I don't know if your loathing of the vagina is a result of a lack of knowledge, but perhaps it's a good idea to learn a bit more about the subject.
Perhaps you'll also want to educate yourself on female hygiene? (In case you're afraid that things aren't clean "down there")
I assume most women do their best to keep their vaginas clean and healthy. I know I do :-)

I know better than to tell others who they're attracted to and why. But I can assure you there are lot of people out there who wonder about the nature of their attractions and how genuine they are. Just take your time to figure things out . There's no hurry.

Good luck!

Dani

[glantern954]

Over the years I have heard several gay men make comparisons between vagina and fish, and then imply that it was "icky stinky blah blah. I always thought it was a ridiculous thing to say. Like ass smells any better?

It is much easier to clean a vagina than an ass. I will take a vagina over ass, clean or not-so-fresh any day.

[MrFahrenheit]

What I wonder is, what are your thoughts on penises? Do you like them? Do you want to touch them/suck on them? Also, what do you enjoy about sex with a woman? Do you actually like her body, or do you just like the intimacy? Is it just the vagina you dislike, or does a woman's entire body just doesn't appeal to you?

When you see an attractive man walking down the street, do you look at his ass? Do you want to touch him? Have you ever fallen in love with a man...?

I think you're not giving us enough information to really help you with this matter. ;)

[izzfan]

Don't worry about it...I don't find the vagina a particualrly attractive part of the body either....now, how can he say that and stil be bisexual? you ask. Well, I do like cock quite a lot and all of my sexual encounters have been with men[even though I really don't like anal sex..I've tried it and its just uncomfortable, oral is a LOT better]. However, the thought of straight sex doesn't completely revulse me as long as I dont have to look in detail at what is happening down there. Also, I often find women very attractive (more so than blokes on many occasions). As for the whole oral sex thing...I understand what you mean, I find the idea of giving a woman oral sex to be quite grim.
Back home (I'm at university at the moment) some of my mates showed me staight porn on various occasions and they were surprised by my revulsion/indifference when the pussy is shown...I dont find it a particualrly attractive part of the female body, that's all...it doesnt mean that I have no attraction to women, just that I find part of their bodies to be a bit grim (I mean, I'm sure there are a few women who find cock grim)

Just my :2cents:

Izzfan

[happyjoe68]

Dude, with all due respect, you need professional help. :2cents:

Its very Freudian, hence the recommendation above

[chook]

Mate......Get some help, in my opinion there is nothing more beautiful than a vagina I wont go into detail but look at it this way if it wasnt for the vagina none of us would be here.....so how in hell can you call the birth canal digusting and I suppose a shitty old arse holds more attraction for you. Like I said get some help!!!!!!


Cheers Chook :bigrin:

[trip1]

I guess RED WINGS are out of the question

[sylvon]

Hello All,

Thanks for all your responses!

Just to clarify things: I have very little sexual experience: straight sex several times with one partner over the summer (during which I feared I wouldn’t climax and questioned whether I was gay), I’ve received blowjobs but never climaxed during one, and with one woman I had outercourse on her ass cheeks. I was raised by very religious parents and I think that I’m sexually awkward as a result of it.

Tommyswing:
Sentive
Thanks for your suggestions on desensitizing. I’ll keep this in mind when trying to get over this “revulsion problem.”

Littleclown:

It makes me feel better knowing that other people have had this problem and gotten over it—thanks.

MrFahrenheit:

I like penises. I’m not seriously considering a same sex relationship right now though. My views on anal sex are more “revolting” than the vagina…when I say revolting in “scare quotes” I mean that I don’t think I’m actually justified in finding it revolting. I view it as a problem that needs to be fixed. Perhaps I just didn’t get over these things when I was younger (for whatever reason). I could just be prejudiced and information starved.

Concerning more detail: I remember when I first put my member in a vagina, I thought, “Wow, that’s it?” I assumed it would be amazing without even trying. (It seemed that I made her cum each time—it was pretty convincing both during the act and in her words: she even expressed surprise. I sometimes think I can do a better job having sex becomes I’m not so distracted by my need for my own pleasure: I was only concerned for her pleasure because I barely felt any. Caveat: obviously, I could have been deceived by my vanity.) I’ve had straight sex in a few positions. I liked missionary the best. I don’t think she did though. I liked the feeling of being intertwined with her body. I loved every part of her body (except for the vagina for some reason!) I’d kiss her all over…

I do find it hard to look away from males I fancy…not so much their ass though. (I remember being attracted to a man. I even masturbated while fantasying about him once—I believe that is only one of two occasions of masturbating to a male image. Anyway, I once saw his awful hairy ass by chance and I have been horrified of the idea of male ass ever since.)

Izzfan:

I would be very easy to agree with you...but right now I'm more inclined to view it as a fixable problem. The arguments people make on why the vagina is beautiful is pretty convincing.

In the mean time:
I’m very grateful for your support. I’ve never had such a conversation before and I think this is helping me to better understand myself.

[DiamondDog]

I don't think that you "need professional help", just because you think that vaginas are gross or not asthetically pleasing to you. You just have your likes and dislikes, and you're only human.

A vagina that's not clean or that has a yeast infection or some sort of STD, well it IS disgusting. I know guys that are heterosexual that think that vaginas are gross and don't enjoy giving oral sex to women. On the other side of the coin, I know gay/bisexual men that don't enjoy giving oral sex to men and who don't suck cock and find the sex act to be disgusting.

Yes, there are even bisexual and lesbian women that don't do oral sex with women either. We all have our own personal likes/dislikes and no I don't think that you "need professional help" if you find a vagina to be gross.

Hell, even I've gone through periods where I'm A LOT more into men where I find women's bodies to be not arousing at all and wonder what I saw in them sexually. Het porn bores me, and I'll just think about/focus on the guy I see in het porn or fucking/sucking/rimming him while he's having sex with the woman.

I'd say that you just have your likes/dislikes. Personally, for myself I don't enjoy the idea of a woman fellating me and imagining it or seeing it in porn makes me go limp. But I just LOVE watching oral sex scenes in gay porn and oral sex is one of my favorite sex acts to do with men; but with women I'd rather just not do it at all.

[Long Duck Dong]

art is one mans pleasure, another mans nightmare



a way to pinpoint your trouble.... is the following

1 ) masturbating over aspects of sexual intercourse... and climaxing well... yet not able to reach the same peaks during sex with others

2 ) able to enact sex acts during masturbation that you can not face doing or enjoy doing, with another person ( ie anal, oral, full penetration )

3 ) finding that you are drawn to a person that smiles a lot or has a nice accent, dresses in a certain way etc, very sexually appealing and desirable.... and they would love to lay with them and caress them, kiss them, touch them... but sex with them is not that interesting

4 ) sex taking the form of all over caressing, touching, stroking etc... yet....its the closeness and sharing the sensations that is the turn on....when the sexual acts become more focussed on one person, the interest dies ( ie having ya dick sucked, or fucking ya partner )... however, if you are sucking her nipples, or kissing her breasts, you enjoy the sensations of the experience you are giving and she is receiving

5 ) after sex, a sudden urge to move around, leave the bed, in fact any excuse to regain a feeling of stableness and security....

a couple of little tricks to do, are the following

1 ) don't focus on the vagina directly... do it indirectly and focus on the feelings you want the female to feel...( IE... while kissing her, or sucking on her breasts, place your hand between her legs and take ya time.... WITHOUT focusing on what your hand is doing

2 ) the same rule applies to sex with males.... the anus may be disgusting to view.... but if you are not seeing it during sex, then the trigger effect doesn't take place and its possible to have anal sex without feeling repulsed

3 ) sexual intercourse is 85 % body contact..5 % emotional and 10 % mental
( grins and if you don't believe that, remove all body contact and see how much, sexual intercourse doesn't happen )
the 5% emotional, is a hard one cos its actually 95 % of sexual desires and feelings... but formed only 5 % of actual sex....
the 10% mental is the interesting part....3% of your mind is reacting in normal fashion and saying yuck, 3 % is blocking the first 3 % and the last 4 % is saying i wanna give this sensation or i wanna experience that sensation

now i am gonna go out on a limb here with this...and no I do not condone zoophilia in any way... but i need a clear example

zoophilia ( sex with animals ) has the same principals....we find it revolting and disgusting.... but the sexual act is not about having sex with animals... its about getting the sensations from the sex that can only be found with doing it with animals... as humans can't provide the same sensations and reactions during sex

its like sex with males and sex with females.... only a male can truly give you the sensation of anal fucking...tho a female can imitate it closly... and only a female can give you the sensation of vaginal sex tho males can imitate it closely

[steve10557]

People's intimate areas are a continual source of mystery, some can make you heave, others make you go all unnecessary. I remember once I was introduced to yoghurt.. I thought, "what a foul idea", but now I eat yoghurt like there's no tomorrow. Becoming accustomed to idea can make you grow into the deed.

You're not going to put that back in your mouth are you!?
(What my Dad said when I poked my tougue out at him once)

[BiMale]

My opinion:

The vagina is a thing of true natural beauty.

Try looking at the art of Georgia O'Keefe and imagine the vagina as a flower unfolding, inviting and mysterious, and capable of providing so much pleasure.

How could anyone, male or female, of any orientation not love the vagina as a wonder a nature?

Every time I penetrate a vagina or kiss one I treat it with that kind of respect and try to remain in awe of it.

I feel the same way about the penis.

No way I could ever be "disgusted" by either.

BiMale :male: :2cents:

[Tidgie]

I am concerned because I think that the vagina is disgusting. I've enjoyed straight sex, but I've never wanted to give a woman oral pleasure or finger her. Indeed, I might even fear these things.

Does anyone else share my opinion?

I've just recently vocalized that I am not 100% straight. I'm not sure how to explain myself yet. I definately am attracted to women. But I've on occassion been attracted to men. Perhaps I've just surpressed any attraction to men? Perhaps my attraction to women is artificial? Perhaps my attraction to men is superficial? Are these common concerns?

Thanks


You poor sod!

[Michael623]

You poor sod!
LOL! What's a sod, Tidgie?

[Tidgie]

LOL! What's a sod, Tidgie?

Well if u dont know far b it for me 2 enlighten ya!!!But in this case merely used in same way as u wud use bugger. lolllllllllll

[jo69guy]

I know of several "straight" guys who are not at all into going down on women. Most do enjoy fingering women though. I suggest that you keep exploring. You could be straight, bi, or gay, and just haven't figured things out for yourself yet. Don't push it, just take things as they come, at your own pace...... :2cents: :bipride: