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Bi_Dave
Oct 1, 2023, 2:59 PM
Was I born with these feelings? Did I learn them? When did I start sucking cock or getting fucked anally?

I grew up in the country in upstate NY. Friends to play with were not close by. We had one car and my mother didn't drive. I had and older brother(by7 yrs) and a younger sister( by 7yrs).I used to try to hang around and do things with my brother and a nearby cousin.(male) They beat on me mostly. Cousin and I would get into BB gun fights. Then one summer they started hanging with a couple of redneck brothers that dropped out of our school. I think they worked mainly as local mechanics. I wasn't allowed to do stuff when they were involved. I got close by when they were doing stuff in and old building. I could here sex talk and moaning. I didn't really know anything about sex. One night, my brother asked me to suck his cock. I declined, but the idea entrenched into my brain. I knew about animal fucking. I watched one of the guys jerk off a dog. That's how I learned about the "knot". I even tried it one time on a friends dog. So one night again my brother asked me to suck and I relented. I liked it from the start. He didn't cum in my mouth. First time I saw what cum was on the toilet paper. I started jerking off when alone. I hadn't seen a pussy yet. Magazines showed them covered with hair and you could seen the actual pussy. I was certainly curious about pussy. I got a hold of a used paperback of CANDY. I realized most of it was BS, but it was stimulating. My brother used to fuck me between my legs after he lubed me up with spit. I really enjoyed that. I was maybe 7,8,or 9 at the time. I'm much older now, but still want to suck a nice clean cock. I can't fuck like I used to, but love eating pussy. I need to find a woman who would not have a problem with my bisexuality.

KDaddy23
Oct 1, 2023, 3:15 PM
Were any of us born with them? Many say that we are but it gets suppressed by what we're taught about sex and other things. But we learn, by many ways - and in ways not that dissimilar to what you shared with us - that having sex with a guy - and it doesn't really matter who the guy is or if he's related to you in some way - wow, who knew it could be so scary but so much fun? That we figure out that, sure, there's girls and their mysterious pussies and getting some is amazing... but so is having sex with a guy and it's so confusing because social norms say that we cannot have both - pick a side, straight or gay, and stay on it... but the reality of bisexuality defies this brand of insanity.

Finding a woman who wouldn't have a problem with your bisexuality would be nice... if she didn't believe that it's wrong for a man to want to have sex with her and other men, too. That's a social thing that makes being bisexual a problem - but bisexuality is what it's always been and no matter how you found out about it - that's a very human thing that we'd rather not accept as a part of reality of things...

jjourneyman
Oct 1, 2023, 6:27 PM
Was I born with these feelings? Did I learn them? When did I start sucking cock or getting fucked anally?

I grew up in the country in upstate NY. Friends to play with were not close by. We had one car and my mother didn't drive. I had and older brother(by7 yrs) and a younger sister( by 7yrs).I used to try to hang around and do things with my brother and a nearby cousin.(male) They beat on me mostly. Cousin and I would get into BB gun fights. Then one summer they started hanging with a couple of redneck brothers that dropped out of our school. I think they worked mainly as local mechanics. I wasn't allowed to do stuff when they were involved. I got close by when they were doing stuff in and old building. I could here sex talk and moaning. I didn't really know anything about sex. One night, my brother asked me to suck his cock. I declined, but the idea entrenched into my brain. I knew about animal fucking. I watched one of the guys jerk off a dog. That's how I learned about the "knot". I even tried it one time on a friends dog. So one night again my brother asked me to suck and I relented. I liked it from the start. He didn't cum in my mouth. First time I saw what cum was on the toilet paper. I started jerking off when alone. I hadn't seen a pussy yet. Magazines showed them covered with hair and you could seen the actual pussy. I was certainly curious about pussy. I got a hold of a used paperback of CANDY. I realized most of it was BS, but it was stimulating. My brother used to fuck me between my legs after he lubed me up with spit. I really enjoyed that. I was maybe 7,8,or 9 at the time. I'm much older now, but still want to suck a nice clean cock. I can't fuck like I used to, but love eating pussy. I need to find a woman who would not have a problem with my bisexuality.

When I really think about it, for me it started in my pre-teens when I watched a guy suck his friend / partner in a park near my house. I never knew guys did that kind of thing, and while that alone didn't make me bi, it definitely made me curious and sparked numerous fantasies about what it would be like to suck another guy's dick. Then, when I did get my first opportunity, I didn't hesitate for a minute.

Tight1-4u
Oct 1, 2023, 11:34 PM
​for me it was that summer I spent getting pounded 4-5 times a day at my cousins.. then in high school getting fucked every day by coach.. yes I knew I was bi very early on and that my life and role would be pleasure for other men..

KDaddy23
Oct 2, 2023, 12:33 AM
Imagine running around for three years having sex with boys and girls and not knowing there was a word to describe this behavior; then imagine finding it and... it all makes sense. In the beginning - and after tasting cock and cum and feeling it pressing against my very virgin asshole and wondering, after it was all over, how something everyone says was so bad could feel so good and never looking back and never feeling bad or guilty about it. Going from not knowing that boys really do have sex with each other to finding out that it is so much fun! It can feel so good! Then... puberty strikes out of nowhere and it's a game changer... and every boy and girl you can lay your eyes on are fair game and knowing that they want to be.

Sucking dicks, swallowing cum; fucking boys in the ass and being fucked in turn and then... eating pussy and fucking girls in whatever hole they wanted to be fucked in. I just don't know how it can get any better than this if you love having sex...

Tight1-4u
Oct 2, 2023, 12:50 AM
KDADDY: right for the longest time I never knew there was a word.. I knew that I loved to have sex getting fucked by other men.. but also knew that it was supposed to be terribly wrong.. but I loved it so and it made me feel so very good.. yes when I found girls and eating pussy and playing with their tits and fucking them it was kinda a conundrum for me as now I loved sex with both men and women.. then one day a girl told me she was bi.. I ask what that was.. she told me and allot a sudden I fit In somewhere.. kinda rocked my world..

elian2
Oct 2, 2023, 6:15 AM
Imagine running around for three years having sex with boys and girls and not knowing there was a word to describe this behavior; then imagine finding it and... it all makes sense. In the beginning - and after tasting cock and cum and feeling it pressing against my very virgin asshole and wondering, after it was all over, how something everyone says was so bad could feel so good and never looking back and never feeling bad or guilty about it. Going from not knowing that boys really do have sex with each other to finding out that it is so much fun! It can feel so good!

I wish my first experience was as free and easy as that, maybe I wouldn't have all these hangups. I'm glad you guys were able to explore like that.

querty
Oct 2, 2023, 10:48 AM
I wish my first experience was as free and easy as that, maybe I wouldn't have all these hangups. I'm glad you guys were able to explore like that.
Hi Elian and welcome to the site (I see you joined recently). I can see how a positive vs less so first experience would be daunting and leave you with uncertainty. My first experience was amazingly good in a completely safe, no judgement, no anxiety scenario with a trusted friend (girl)and her Bi BF that I met for the first time that night. I was thrilled and really happy about having finally put reality to the fantasizes I had had since my teen years.

My second experience was the polar opposite. I had been chatting with and had even met the guy once before. On our second meet we went to his hotel and it went down hill in a hurry. Bad hygiene, bad skin, 100% ED, (didn't tell me that until things were started), unshaven (said he was), pushy, and kept trying to french kiss even though I had told him before and then that that was not my thing. And he was terrible at oral. After that encounter I felt stupid, ashamed, frankly grossed out, and full of new doubts about what the hell I was doing.

Fortunately the aforementioned friend was there for me an pointed out that it was just as likely to have a bad encounter with a women as man, all other things being equal. People are people. So I didn't give up (though it was a long time between that encounter and whatever the next one was and I still struggled with what I was doing) and from then on all my experiences have been good or great or most recently, amazing.

It's easy for me to say "set the hang ups aside and explore", but I know those are easy words to say and hard to live. You can find lots of support here on this site.

KDaddy23
Oct 2, 2023, 2:06 PM
KDADDY: right for the longest time I never knew there was a word.. I knew that I loved to have sex getting fucked by other men.. but also knew that it was supposed to be terribly wrong.. but I loved it so and it made me feel so very good.. yes when I found girls and eating pussy and playing with their tits and fucking them it was kinda a conundrum for me as now I loved sex with both men and women.. then one day a girl told me she was bi.. I ask what that was.. she told me and allot a sudden I fit In somewhere.. kinda rocked my world..

Yeah, I knew it was wrong, too... but hence the question I had asked myself. It feels good... because it's supposed to feel good.

KDaddy23
Oct 2, 2023, 2:11 PM
I wish my first experience was as free and easy as that, maybe I wouldn't have all these hangups. I'm glad you guys were able to explore like that.

I wouldn't say that it was "free and easy" but I suppose it was; he proposed it, offered money, I said yes and... wow, this is so exciting but it was also very wrong... but is it really? Apparently not and I was off and running and blessed/fortunate to have a lot of very horny male friends who either already knew what I'd just learned or they were eager to learn it. Hangups are "easy" to get rid of: Just ask yourself if it makes sense for you to have them and if it doesn't - and it shouldn't - then don't let them keep fucking with you.

atxbi
Oct 3, 2023, 11:17 AM
With me, it was totally my first wife’s idea. We used to play with others occasionally, and of course I always encouraged her to play with other ladies. She would sometimes and I got to see her pleasure several other ladies. Then she started bringing it up during threesomes with other guys. I was like, no way. Then she would get the other guy to suck me with her. It took quite a while for me, but I finally gave in and started sharing cocks with her, and started to enjoy it. Not long after, we went our separate ways, and I got curious to see if sucking cock without her would be as fun sucking with her. Well, I found out it is, and I’ve been a proud, happy cocksucker ever since.

bibliss
Oct 3, 2023, 3:28 PM
Decades ago now, I attended a swingers party with my then-girlfriend. Couples and singles there, of all shapes, shades and sizes. The sex was pretty much heterosexual, at least that I could see out in the open, with some women with women.

I was surprised to uncover a feeling of sexual liberation just being among other naked men. This feeling was confusing and yet delightfully freeing at the same time. Suddenly, dicks seemed to be as magnificent and exciting as pussies. I realized then there was much more for me to learn and discover.

It took me awhile, but I finally reached out to one of those men who was offering erotic massage. I've been exploring bisexuality ever since.

Sex is a journey. A lifelong journey. We're always learning, growing and discovering, IMHO.

colfax129
Oct 4, 2023, 2:14 PM
Mine was sparked by reading stories of men sucking cock in the old Penthouse Forums and Variations. Have never been attracted to men, but reading those stories sure spawned an interest in cocks!

Rest85
Oct 4, 2023, 6:59 PM
Mine was sparked by reading stories of men sucking cock in the old Penthouse Forums and Variations. Have never been attracted to men, but reading those stories sure spawned an interest in cocks!

Man, I love Penthouse Variations magazine. I'd always be excited when I'd get the newest issue. That magazine brought out the cuck in my. I can remember by dick dripping precum as I read seek out the cuckold stories.

I already had the desire to suck cocks and the cuck desires in me, but that magazine really fed the fire for both those things, for me.

Cforme
Oct 4, 2023, 9:54 PM
I personally just think sex is fantastic. I feel that whatever turns you on and gets you naturally excited is great. I sucked my first few cocks before fucking my first chick. Both were equally exciting and felt really, really great, and really normal to me. I personally do not see the big stigma involved in having sex with either sex. Someone a long time ago decided it wasn’t right or against their rules �� and I really do not think there is anything wrong with it. Seriously, if a cock causes me to get a raging hard on and gets me excited, or a nice pair of tits and pussy causes the same… why not?! I really wish the world would catch up to really being human and figures out sex it beautiful. That’s my thoughts and desires and I’m sticking to them!

JordanCD
Oct 5, 2023, 8:02 AM
I think everyone is born partially sexually agnostic. When you play “doctor” as a kid the only things pushing you towards or away from homosexual activities are the social norms you’ve learned up to that point. When all your friends have a mommy and daddy, playing doctor with the same sex feels a bit off and potentially dangerous. But if all the couples in society were same-sex couples, you’d probably feel more uncomfortable playing doctor with the opposite sex.

All those early experiences and the social norms in your community have a big part in how you perceive your own sexuality and how much you embrace it. I bet most straight people would hook up with same sex poeple if being “gay” was the norm.

KDaddy23
Oct 5, 2023, 12:08 PM
Playing doctor was so much fun and, um, getting your temperature check... orally and anally. Funny thing: I hated rectal thermometers but didn't mind a hard, fleshy thermometer in my butt. Playing "Show Me Yours" often led to dicks being fondled and sucked. You play "House" with a girl and... fucking because mommies and daddies are supposed to do it to make babies. Quite right: The social conditioning we get makes anything homosexual scary and weird but, hmm, wow, it feels pretty good, too, as well as it feels good to do something "bad."

Those who missed or passed on those early opportunities, well, a lot of the guys I know who didn't fool around with their male friend have regretted their decision not to fool around. Still, it's sex and sexuality and those of us who got started early got in on the ground floor and, well, it was nasty good fun!

Tight1-4u
Oct 6, 2023, 12:33 PM
so as I have stated many times here I got an early start with sex with men.. and since reading this thread and really thinking about the question at hand I feel that I need tore think my answer as my early experiences really opened the door to a gay lifestyle.. my sexual desires clear into high school were purely gay.. I didn?t know about girls but knew men made me sexually crazy.. it wasn?t until my junior year in high school and having sex with coach?s wife that I discovered girls and the magic that pussy and tits held.. you see coach was fucking me everyday.. which made me very happy.. but coach was promoting me to all the scouts around and struggled with the fact that that back then if it were to get out that I had sex with men it would ruin me.. so it was well known around school that coach?s wife took one guy each year and had her fun as well.. so coach devised the plan that his wife would coach me in the sex with girls world.. I did not know at the time about this plan.. I got called to her office one day after spending my two hours with coach.. when. I her office I was told to sit on the. Small table there.. and wait.. now she was about 5?3? and maybe 130lbs and large cc cup tits, very small tight ass and beautiful legs.. so waiting on the table she walked in wearing just a towel around her and said she just had a shower.. she came to me and started talking to me and kinda touching me.. one thing led to another and her towel fell off.. her hand was on my leg about crotch area.. my cock must have jumped at the site of her there naked.. she smiled and said you do like girls!!! Then her hand went under my shorts and found my cock.. soon I was naked and we were kissing.. she moved my hands to her tits and explained the art of using them to make a girl horny using them.. we moved to her couch and where she sucked me for a bit.. then she laid back and spread her legs and said it was my turn.. she guided my face to her mound and instructed me how to eat pussy. After a while she told me she was ready for me.. she pulled me up her body and on top of her.. she said to have my way with her.. she then reached down and guided my then 8? cock to her pussy witch was soaking wet.. she wiggled her hips a few times and I slid in her balls deep.. she let out a whimper and relaxed under me.. then told me to fuck her the way coach fucked me.. I could feel the heat and smooth slimy wetness of her pussy on my cock.. it was amazing.. as I fucked her she moved her hips and pushed agents me thrusting into her.. we kissed and I played with her tits and nipples while fucking her.. after a while I was getting close she was bucking under me.. she reached up and grabbed my ass and pulled me deep into her and I exploded for the first time in a pussy.. it was odd and and amazing at the same time.. we kissed until I fell out of her.. she then dolly me over and sucked me clean.. said I couldn?t go to class smelling like her pussy.. I then fucked her at least once a week for the next two years. She also told all the girls about me.. I became kinda popular.. coach still fucked me everyday.. needless to say high school was an amazing and eye opening time for me!!! Looking back I never had sex with both of them at the same time.. guess it was just them getting their own on the side..

KDaddy23
Oct 7, 2023, 1:14 PM
Becoming bisexual or discovering it can come in so many different ways; if nothing else, one can be introduced to some pretty spectacular sex albeit some of it being morally questionable. The boyfriend I had was 100% gay - but he was bold, daring, and curious about sex with women and wanted to know about it in order to understand me and my bisexuality better and... he found that getting some pussy isn't all that bad. I wouldn't say that he became bisexual but when you check out the other side of things, you learn some stuff and can gain a different perspective on things.

I don't judge because it would be the pot calling the kettle black when it comes to having sex but I'm thinking that if Tight grew up when and where I did, he would have been the most popular guy ever!

Tight1-4u
Oct 7, 2023, 6:59 PM
​thanks KD: we all have our own story.. I really appreciate that..

Fzmr9t
Oct 7, 2023, 7:41 PM
Mine was during the glory days of the internet (Netscape, internet explorer, dialup AOL) when everything was accessible. I was curious about what I could find out there, and boy there was a LOT! searched all forms of porn and would bypass gay porn until I got bored w the rest and started looking at gay porn. Then found a chat site. Then chatted w a newbie like myself. Then experimented w said newbie. From then on I was hooked!

MNBiGuy
Oct 7, 2023, 8:48 PM
Mine was sparked by reading stories of men sucking cock in the old Penthouse Forums and Variations. Have never been attracted to men, but reading those stories sure spawned an interest in cocks!
Yep me too I remember those mags. God my whole body was electric reading them

MNBiGuy
Oct 7, 2023, 8:59 PM
I personally just think sex is fantastic. I feel that whatever turns you on and gets you naturally excited is great. I sucked my first few cocks before fucking my first chick. Both were equally exciting and felt really, really great, and really normal to me. I personally do not see the big stigma involved in having sex with either sex. Someone a long time ago decided it wasn’t right or against their rules �� and I really do not think there is anything wrong with it. Seriously, if a cock causes me to get a raging hard on and gets me excited, or a nice pair of tits and pussy causes the same… why not?! I really wish the world would catch up to really being human and figures out sex it beautiful. That’s my thoughts and desires and I’m sticking to them!
100 Percent!!

phalluster
Oct 7, 2023, 11:08 PM
My journey began when I was 14. I rode my bike to a department store near my house and went to the bathroom to take a leak. There was a guy standing there who asked me if I wanted to see his dick and proceeded to take his cock out of his pants. He started jerking it, and I remember clearly, he was doing it backhand – thumb and forefinger toward his belly. He asked me if I wanted to play with it, I was scared as shit and said no and pretty much ran out of the store.
A few weeks later I was back at the same store – I went there often. This time when I went to the bathroom it was not because I needed to pee but because I was curious. I had previously seen peepholes between the stalls and thought that was weird. This time when I went into the stall there was a gloryhole – not very big as I remember it, just big enough to stick your cock through, but not your balls. It was hard not to look through the hole and when I did there was a guy sitting on the toilet with his cock exposed and erect. I’ll never know for sure, but that cock looked just like the one that belonged to the guy who showed me his cock a few weeks ago. Next thing I know that guy sticks a finger through the hole. I had no idea what that meant and didn’t do anything. He starts whispering through the hole for me to stick my dick in so he could suck it for me. I had never had any kidn of sex at that point, other than with myself. I was afraid, but also super aroused and stood up, dropped my pants and stuck my adolescent dick through the hole. He immediately wrapped his lips around it – I can still feel the warmth of his hot mouth on my cock right now. He sucked me for just a few minutes, I was about to blow and said something and started to pull away, but he clamped down on my cock with his lips and didn’t let go. I came deep in his throat. As happens after you cum, all the sexual excitement left and I freaked out and rode my bike home afraid that he would chase me.
I went back to the gloryhole many times and I started getting more curious about cock myself. I bought a Blueboy magazine at a place that sold it alongside Playboy and Penthouse. That was a revelation for me. I loved looking at cocks. I masturbated to that magazine so many times, just looking at cock. I still remember the voice in my head at those times – I thought that cock was so beautiful as I stared at the pages of the magazine. I almost was brought to tears I was so joyful when visually worshipping one cock in particular. I wanted to suck that cock right off the pages.
50 years later that has not changed. I love cock and I think men sharing each other's cock for sexual pleasure is a completely natural act.

Warmnsalty
Oct 8, 2023, 9:37 AM
My curiosity started young, around junior high I started to realize I liked looking at good looking muscular guys. I loved girls and was obsessed with cute blondes but at the same time found good looking guys attractive. Wasn't thinking of sex, just that they looked hot. Wasn't till high school as I was having sex with girls that the thought of cock started to be appealing. Watching porn I loved focusing on a guys cock as it was fucking a girl. Fast forward, AOL and the internet, chat rooms and realized there were others like me, loved pussy but also liked cock. Had my first guy blow me exp late 20's. Have been enjoying both cock and pussy ever since.

KDaddy23
Oct 8, 2023, 1:02 PM
​thanks KD: we all have our own story.. I really appreciate that..

You have some of the best stories ever; your love of being fucked reminds me of the one gay guy in our "gang" who loved to be fucked and would kneel down to suck dick and way faster than I would - and I sucked a lot of dick back then! We would pull trains on him... at his request and he loved every minute of it. Since we lived in the same apartment building - and he had a thing for me - I spent a lot of time fucking him and/or being sucked off by him since our parents used to stick us together while they worked. I think he would have given you a run for your money...

stonebow
Oct 9, 2023, 9:36 AM
Who really knows? For a fortunate few, like K Daddy, it's a natural outgrowth of childhood sexual curiosity.....no shame, no guilt and no trauma. For some of us it's not so easy.

A number of you have shared stories of being abused by older males.....relatives, neighbors, teachers and so on. I've met more than one man who spoke of being used for the sexual gratification of one or more older males. Perhaps we are all born with a fluid sexuality....naturally open to any possiblity.. and it's only the opinions and expectations of our community that set us on a path of strict heterosexuality. What is it then in some of us that makes us buck that pressure to conform to the accepted standard? Is it that by the time we feel that pressure we've already discovered how good physical intimacy with persons of the same sex, can be....and we can't go back?

And also what makes those of us who's first sexual experience was a tramatic one, embrace the very behaviour that was the source of such pain? It's been said that the brain is the most important sex organ.....it's certainly the hardest to comprehend.

Neonaught
Oct 9, 2023, 10:00 AM
My curiosity started young, around junior high I started to realize I liked looking at good looking muscular guys. I loved girls and was obsessed with cute blondes but at the same time found good looking guys attractive. Wasn't thinking of sex, just that they looked hot. Wasn't till high school as I was having sex with girls that the thought of cock started to be appealing. Watching porn I loved focusing on a guys cock as it was fucking a girl. Fast forward, AOL and the internet, chat rooms and realized there were others like me, loved pussy but also liked cock. Had my first guy blow me exp late 20's. Have been enjoying both cock and pussy ever since.

My experience was similar. I had already had sex with one female. I was attending a jr high track meet and started to notice how sexy all the competitors were. A short time later I stated having experiences with my male best friend and I really enjoyed them as much as I did women. That's when if dawned on me that I was lucky enough to be bisexual. I've never looked back!

elian2
Oct 9, 2023, 10:16 AM
Who really knows? For a fortunate few, like K Daddy, it's a natural outgrowth of childhood sexual curiosity.....no shame, no guilt and no trauma. For some of us it's not so easy.

And also what makes those of us who's first sexual experience was a tramatic one, embrace the very behaviour that was the source of such pain? It's been said that the brain is the most important sex organ.....it's certainly the hardest to comprehend.

I loved the attention, affection and pleasure .. that was the first time anyone had held me like that .. when I was in his arms it was like a switch flipped and I just knew that's what I wanted.

I just wish the kid hadn't tortured me for a day and half prior -- that set up a pretty nasty conflict in my mind. Otherwise it would have been a much different experience. I often wonder what the hell happened to him for him to know all the things he did at 12.

Between that and being raised by my mom and her friends -- well they never did anything "inappropriate" -- I thought of women as sisters -- it never even occurred to me that women like sex as much as men until I was well into my 20s.

Some older dudes have been patiently letting me explore things, which is nice -- I'm finally getting over this crap ..

As for why it happens -- if it experiences trauma the mind will literally keep trying to replay what happened, trying to make sense out of things -- but sometimes there IS no logical reason why you were put in that situation -- hormones aren't logical.

It kind of annoys me people don't talk about sex, they treat it as taboo -- so we are all left to figure things out on our own. I can't say it's wrong - there are some things you don't need to know when you are young but it DOES seem a little crazy.

I think I was always flexible, I've always wanted to love, and be loved for as long as I can remember - I never cared what was between your legs, I never thought it was a problem until some folks MADE it a problem.

If society hadn't been so miserably dead set against it I would have had a perfectly happy childhood that way. It was hard to get over that, being told you are less than human simply for wanting to love others but life is short so there's no point in dwelling on it.

Once the crazy hormones started then it became natural to want to share pleasure as well, although the church and society did their best to condemn that.

Some people are never happy, they can't imagine anyone else being happy either. They can't imagine being moral without a lash on your back.

It personally doesn't bother me if my co-worker likes to go home and have his wife peg him, or be submissive with a ball gag in his mouth -- maybe he has a stressful job and that's the only release of tension he gets .. as long as everyone is mature and consenting I don't see the problem.

KDaddy23
Oct 10, 2023, 1:17 PM
Who really knows? For a fortunate few, like K Daddy, it's a natural outgrowth of childhood sexual curiosity.....no shame, no guilt and no trauma. For some of us it's not so easy.

A number of you have shared stories of being abused by older males.....relatives, neighbors, teachers and so on. I've met more than one man who spoke of being used for the sexual gratification of one or more older males. Perhaps we are all born with a fluid sexuality....naturally open to any possiblity.. and it's only the opinions and expectations of our community that set us on a path of strict heterosexuality. What is it then in some of us that makes us buck that pressure to conform to the accepted standard? Is it that by the time we feel that pressure we've already discovered how good physical intimacy with persons of the same sex, can be....and we can't go back?

And also what makes those of us who's first sexual experience was a tramatic one, embrace the very behaviour that was the source of such pain? It's been said that the brain is the most important sex organ.....it's certainly the hardest to comprehend.

Two things I learned along the way. The first is that once a guy finds out that having sex with another guy is pretty amazing, they also find that whatever they heard about having sex - it's only between males and females - is a bit of a lie. I know I was all-in from the beginning but I had friends who dived into sex with the rest of us... because they were told not to and rebelliously bucked the system and I'll say that most had a grand time being sexuality and sexual rebels and, don't take this the wrong way but most of those rebels I encountered were... white guys, which taught me a lot about cultural and racial differences when it came to sex and sexuality. And, yes, once one finds out that special intimacy, it's hard to go back to just being straight and as a lot of men who got started early - but gave it up like they were supposed to - have learned.

The next is the effect of trauma. I knew guys whose first time was a "classic" homosexual horror story; an older man or male relative forces them to have sex and just "brutalizes" them in the process and now they're traumatized... but what happens next can be they become hyper-sexual because they now have a need to reclaim their self-worth despite their ongoing behavior or they withdraw and, basically, not much of a fan of sex and they're fighting demons and blaming themselves for what happened to them when, in fact, it wasn't their fault - but trying to convince them that it wasn't and the importance of not always dwelling on what happened isn't an easy thing for them to overcome.

I was told to never have sex with a boy and when that man introduced me, I wasn't "looking" to do it but it happened and... why do we get told that this is so bad when it feels friggin' amazing? I've had to listen to people tell me that I was abused when, um, I sure didn't feel abused and, getting older, I looked up the age of consent laws at the time and it was 10 - and I was a couple of weeks away from being able to consent and... close enough for government work. And no shame, no guilt, and no trauma whatsoever but an expanded appetite for sex and reveling in the physical intimacy because the answer to the question I had asked myself was that it feels good... because sex is supposed to feel good, well, until you have experiences where it doesn't feel all that good but that becomes an occupational hazard that many of us experience with females alone.

One of the things I found that causes the trauma isn't the sexual act one got exposed to: It's how that act totally conflicts with what we get told about who we can have sex with and, forever and ever, that we cannot, should not, and better not have sex with another male. It happens and... trauma ensues because I'll say that most young male minds can't cope with the conflicting information and then toss in the guilty feelings of something happening that shouldn't have happened and it creates a "perfect storm of sexual negativity" in one's mind that, on the bad side, cannot be resolved and even when one becomes an adult. Yeah, I had made it my business to learn everything I could about guys having sex with each other and how morality and social norms, all by themselves, can create trauma in someone because while someone can have a true bad and abusive experience, most guys don't and regardless to who introduces them but like you said: Our brains are almost impossible to figure out when it comes to how it works.

It is so utterly fascinating when you dig down deep into sex and sexuality. We more often than not assume abuse when, in actually, no abuse actually happened or like I asked someone, "If I, at any point in my life, had no reason to believe that I got abused that day, did I really get abused?" Oh, yeah, I got bribed and "taken advantage" of but was that really a bad thing? I still don't think so but, yeah, I've learned some stuff about this that most people don't want to know about...

biguycancun
Oct 10, 2023, 1:50 PM
I was in my late 20's, working on a project in Berlin for an unnamed film studio, recording an unnamed orchestra in Berlin to marry up with an unnamed chorus in London. My assistant was an Englishman, with cafe au lait skin, about 5'11" and somewhere between handsome and beautiful. We were both staying at an unnamed, upscale hotel in separate rooms a floor apart. We were working 10 to 12 hour days. After we wrapped we would dine together and then go to my room where we would review the day's work. At the end of the Berlin leg of the job we sat down in my room to review the final product before leaving for London the next afternoon. The final copy was wonderful and as the last chords died out we both jumped up and embraced in celebration of a job well done.

And with my arms around him I felt the bra he was wearing under his sweater. I asked, "Is that a bra?" And his reply was to kiss me. It was a nice kiss and soon our mouths were open and our tongues were playing when he asked, "Do you want to fuck me?" And I did, more than once, and someplace before dawn, when I was on my back with him straddling me, he asked, "Would you like me to fuck you?" And for some reason that I didn't understand I said yes.

He was very gentle as he explored my body, slowly introducing his finger and then fingers into me and when he asked if I was ready he very slowly and deliberately entered me, a little bit at a time, until I thrust hungrily back at him, taking his entire length into me. What an awakening! It felt so good and when he came and softened I almost cried at the feeling of loss as he slipped out of me.

The following three weeks in London, staying in flat in Kensington, was my indoctrination into bottoming, feminization, crossdressing and giving oral sex. In time it lead to my temporary career change, getting paid for being a feminine bottom and negotiating my way through to the relative top tier of organized, industrialized sex. But that's a whole other story.

Fiddlestyx
Oct 10, 2023, 5:40 PM
I had a discussion just last week with my "playmate" of many decades on just this topic. His first sexual experience was with a male friend at age 11 and with his sister a year later. He said that sort of set his pattern and that he'd always found both males and females attractive. Mine was with a girl in a church basement at around age 12 and first intercourse was in front of a crowd at a basement party when I was 15. I didn't have sex with a male until my mid-30s when I just finally decided I wanted to find out what things were like from the perspective of the many women I'd been with all those years. I answered an ad in the Pennysaver (yes, by mail!) and decided to just launch right into it. I kinda freaked out my playmate a bit by not needing to be "gentled" into things and we just did about everything on the usual list of possibilities that first time - kissing, nipple play, stroking (of all sorts), oral, anal... basically as close as we could manage to what women had experienced with me. I still don't really find men attractive, but it was jolly good fun and remains so. As I said to my friend - I have no regrets whatsoever and feel that I'd have missed out on something lovely and valuable if I hadn't followed up on my whim.

jimkimball
Dec 3, 2023, 12:25 PM
I never thought about it until I was 12 and my friend started sucking my cock and trying to get me to suck his.
After a year I gave in to my curiosity and loved it from the start.
But only had sex with him til we were 17.
Then after that I thought about it alot but never did it anymore til I was in my 30's.

Warren63
Dec 5, 2023, 8:37 PM
Back in the 60s my buddy Mike and i would masturbate together. Eventually jerking each other off. He later started putting his hard dick in between my butt cheeks and slide it back and forth across my asshole and balls and cum on my ass. I knew i wanted to suck him but never got the nerve. He could've fuck me if he wanted. I regret it still today not eating his cum!

darkale
Dec 7, 2023, 7:11 PM
On my 13th birthday. Which I was completely asexual at the time. My older brother and his buddy hooked me up with an older lady to lose my virginity.
After that I went a little crazy and I would hangout late at night at some places. One time some guy came over and joined the group.

The guy convinced me to go with him to show me something. I don't remember what but it was not sexual. We went by his place and he had a few dogs and two other boys living there. Then he took me in the bedroom and started demanding that I would fuck him. Let's say I had no idea what was going on, I was not aroused and I was kind of scared. I got on top of him as he said but I was not enjoying it, let's say.

Then at some point we said "I know what you want". So he rolled me over and fucked my ass and then he went to sleep. I remember laying there feeling like shit for hours. At some point I managed to sneak out and left. It was not an experience I enjoyed, in fact I wish it would have never happened.
But after that, maybe a year later when I was alone in my room I would start to play with my ass. Then I started to use object in the house. I had also developed a bad habit to collect pictures of women that I found in magazines or newspaper and I would masturbate a lot.

It was not until I was 20 that somehow I met this guy. We went to a parking lot. He sucked my dick and then he got me to suck his. I lived in SoCal at the time and there were a lot of gay guys. They would routinely hit on me, so finding people was very easy. In fact I had to rejects most approaches. It wasn't until the mid twenties that I started looking at ads. I went through a period I was finding people often. But then I would stop.

I go through periods that I completely forget about and I am with woman. I was married for 13 years and I have had many relationships with women, some lasted years. But it seems in between relationships I do look for something with a guy.

I would say for me, most of the time it stays in fantasy land. After many years I finally accepted that I am bi, but I am very discreet because I don't want to lose my relationship with women.

elian2
Dec 9, 2023, 10:03 AM
What kids *want* is to feel safe, secure and loved .. but I guess we all have to learn about sex somehow right? I sometimes do wish there was a better way to learn. The feelings can be very intense and if you aren't ready things can go wrong quickly. Good thing we are all very resilient. I just wish people hadn't told me that I was "wrong" for wanting to share love and pleasure with half the people i wanted to share it with. I would have been much happier.

chongster
Dec 9, 2023, 10:54 AM
My sexuality evolved over many years, I guess I'm a sex addict. I was never interested in having any kind of gay sex, in fact I found gay guys repulsive for many years. My sex with women was really great and I was already ready to try new things. I had a girlfriend in my 20s that was bisexual, she would pick up other girls at the bar and share them with me. It was all about sex, drugs and rock&roll back in those days (80s)
We had 3 and 4 somes but the guys never touched each other. I always enjoyed fucking a girl after another guy had already fucked her and dumped his load.
When the VCR became a thing and you could watch porn in the privacy of your own house I was always looking for something new to try.
Fast forward to the internet days and all the porn you can ever imagine, one day I'm looking at tranny porn. Some of these girls are really hot and excite me. Would I suck her dick? Oh hell yeah!
Well, I was off to the races. I've only been with one real TS, a few CDs. I'm most attracted to fem guys that want to be fucked and sucked.

elian2
Dec 10, 2023, 12:15 PM
I wouldn't say "addicted" but sex has been a part of my life longer than most people seem to want to admit.

Cuck2023
Dec 10, 2023, 1:45 PM
I’m not sure what started mine but I think it has always been a part of me. The feelings have come and gone over the years but have probably always been in me to some degree. For me I think it is more of something natural, from inside me other than outside influences that have created my bisexual urges.

rukiddingme
Dec 12, 2023, 6:32 PM
Fooled around with neighbor boys when young. As we grew older we all started going for girls. But for me, always had somewhat of a draw back to guys. So for me it was always part of my sexual attraction.

Johnyonenut
Dec 13, 2023, 7:26 AM
A whole series of events led to my being bicurious. At 6or 7 I was playing in our shack in the woods by our house when the neighbor teen came in. He took out his cock and stroked it till some precum came out, he wanted me to lick it off but I said no. At about 10 we had a man visit for a few days and as I had a double bed my folks had him sleep with me(I could never figure out why they put a total stranger in bed with their young son). I woke up during the night and he was spooning me and playing with my dick, I reached back into his underwear to feel him and his dick was all wet and sticky. I didn't know what it was so I pulled my hand out and rolled away from him. I told.my Mom and he was gone the next day. As I look back I think I scared myself more than he scared me.At about 14 a much more developed neighbor boy talked me into letting him fuck me. As he was trying to my dad called for me so it didn't happen which I think was good because I think he would have been brutal. I will say that I was a very late bloomer with a little boy dick and I couldn't cum till I was 17. That was when my fascination with cocks really bloomed, I would sneak a look whenever I could and still do. The summer after graduation a coworker kept after me to suck him off or let him fuck me, again a no on my part. At about 20 I picked up the "town queer " to give me a blowjob. I couldn't cum( I never have been able to cum from just oral) so I fucked him instead, he was nice and tight and it felt really good. I got married and developed very straight friends in a small red neck town. So now I am 75 and still very curious. I would like to find a gentle man to let me explore my desires and see if I am truly bi or if is just a fantasy world for me. I do see myself as a sub/bottom. Sorry for being so long but I have wanted to tell my story for a while.

elian2
Dec 13, 2023, 6:03 PM
Once upon a time I guess it was like, well they are both male so it's okay to sleep together? I eventually did have a very horny mind but of course didn't act on it except by myself.

Speaking of gentle, my best experience so far was with a friend of 20 years. We finally broke down and decided to be intimate together and I wasn't all nervous and whatnot. It does make a difference if you trust the person. He was thoughtful enough to ask, not just demand.

Most of the time I'm kind of submissive but depending on what's going on I switch moods. If a guy is really getting into fingering and stuff I become a bit more insistent.

jjourneyman
Dec 19, 2023, 6:33 PM
All things being equal, I think your pic is super hot!

jjourneyman
Jan 3, 2024, 12:27 PM
I really like this thread because it gets to the heart of why we all participate. I was bi before I even really understood what bi was. It wasn't until after sucking my first cock, swallowing my first mouthful of cum, and taking my first cock in my ass and feeling the cum leak out afterward, and then jerking off for the next several days knowing what I had done. It takes a person a while to process those feelings and sensations. But once I came to grips with it, I knew I would be open for more experiences.

I was 14 at the time, and I remember it clearly because it was the day after my birthday. By the end of that first day, I had sucked him twice. The next day, when I went back, I sucked him hard again and that's when he fucked me.

From then on, I wasn't shy about having MM sex. As I'm getting older, I don't mind returning the favor. What's the old saying? Once a bottom always a bottom, and once a top always a top.

I love pussy too. Always have and always will. But there's something about that first time sucking cock that you remember.

querty
Jan 3, 2024, 12:43 PM
But there's something about that first time sucking cock that you remember.

Agreed - I remember every detail of my first time. And the next day, which is often when the regret or other negative emotions kick in (or so I have read alot) I felt nothing but warm, happy, content and excited that I had finally fulfilled my desire, and comfort that I was for SURE going to pursue MM sex for the rest of my life.

elian2
Jan 3, 2024, 12:55 PM
At 7 years old? The actual sex was inconsequential, like half a blowjob and some inserting of things in odd places .. it felt really awkward and I disliked the kid anyway for locking me in the basement and threatening me with his dad's gun.

What I will never forget is how good it felt to be in his arms, desired and adored - it was like a switch flipped and just knew THAT is what i wanted. And yes, if the worst thing you can do to a man is to call him a woman (ain't that some shit?) then yes, it took me a long time to get over the "shame" of wanting to be submissive like that.

I know better these days, we ALL have both creative and nurturing energy, regardless of what is between our legs .. and sex is just as much for bonding and sharing pleasure as anything else.

I've always just wanted to love. Nobody "groomed" me. I refuse to apologize for simply wanting to love, wanting to be intimate with anyone else.

dicktrobing
Jan 4, 2024, 3:04 AM
I suppose I was always curious, but as a teenager you 20 y/o society at the time was not so open. I dated a young woman who opened my eyes to many things, she was keen on swing parties it was at one of these she introduced me to cock

Sigstache
Jan 4, 2024, 12:35 PM
My very first sexual experience was at 13 with an older boy, he was 16. Long story short, I didnt initiate the act and wouldnt have, but he did, however I didnt object and in fact we had a few more sleep overs just to do it again. Never did anything again like that till 26yrs later. Went on to chase girls/women, got married, had kids....but always thought about it off and on throughout the years.

The best way Ive been able to describe this to myself is, a very erotic image got permantly burned into my brain and it's followed me through life. Im 95% certain had that not happened I wouldnt be above a zero on the kinsey scale.

1funguy
Jan 4, 2024, 6:32 PM
WE ARE GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED TO BE BISEXUAL. NEW STUDY RELEASED FROM ENGLAND.

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Many are waking up to this reality.

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BiCoffeeM8
Jan 6, 2024, 8:59 AM
I really think I was born bi. I've known since I was maybe 12, 13 years old that I had an attraction to both genders. Having been raised in a very conservative area as well as being devout Roman Catholic at the time, acting on my same sex attraction would have been considered a mortal sin. Oh, the guilt I was feeling due to that attraction!

I first lost my virginity to a girl at 15. Sex with her was enjoyable but neither of us had a clue what we were doing. After she and I split ways when I was 16, I met up with a guy from school with whom I'd hung around occasionally. It was rumored he like both boys and girls and I'd always wondered if that was true. When he invited me to camp out with him one Saturday night, I found out what a same sex sexual encounter could be like.

My first man on man sex with him was amazing. He was an amazing kisser and a patient lover. I'm grateful for that patience because he was well hung packing a thick eight inches and a fat mushroom head. I had all I could to take him in my mouth without scraping my teeth on his cock. But, I managed and I got to taste my first load that day. I just wish I could have taken him from behind but I couldn't.

I've recently run into him on FB. He's now out as completely gay. I've told him that I often think of our first times together way back when. Unfortunately, I've gained a fair amount of weight since HS. Though he's a bear himself, he has no interest in other bears. I likes the young, smooth twinks.

Cforme
Jan 8, 2024, 5:07 AM
Mine was finding my parents porn mags as a kid. I loved everything I saw. Women were amazing to me as a young boy of course. I would fine the right picture and jerk off sooo much. But seeing some spreads where it was males with females, I was mesmerized when I saw that first erect cock. I was both amazed as well as wanting mine to be just like it. I began jerking off to pictures of guys with women, but wanted to see that cock so that I could pleasure myself looking at the full form of a huge cock, tightened balls , and between a woman pussy and an erect cock… I blew sooooo many loads. After that, I was lucky to have neighborhood kids who wanted to experiment with each other. Finally I was able to get one of those cocks I fell in love with in my face, in my hands, in my mouth. From my first cock, my first pussy… it’s been such a wonderful experience growing up, never worried about my sexuality, to me it was all just a wonderful thing to experience.

pete7
Jan 9, 2024, 12:16 AM
mine was with a buddy from high school the same age. long story short, we went camping by ourselves for three days. he brought a bottle of bourbon. at night we/d be in the tent drinking and eventually naked showing our cock to each other. this lead to drunken massages. i remember sitting on his ass rubbing his back, and then i said let me do the front now. he rolled over and our cocks where together. both hard i held our cocks together then massage his abs and chest. i decided as he was pretty drunk that now was the time. i got off of him,, i reached over and touched his hard cock, then went for it...licked it, sucked it in my mouth,, his load was surprise, how much it was!