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stephmtl
Aug 1, 2023, 11:58 PM
I see lots of hot stories about MMF but my situation I donot think this would ever work. She doesnt know - or turns a blind eye. I m not very active and often feel bad about it. But it also "relieves" some tension and has allowed things to be less fraught in the marriage. Is this common or is most everyone else more open and progressive in their relationships? curious to know!

Neonaught
Aug 2, 2023, 9:12 AM
My bi wife and I have never had any difficulty making MFM and MMF encounters work out for all involved. We only see bi men so we both can enjoy them (bottoms preferred). Many of the men are married but their wives have given up on sex so they have us as an outlet. I cn only assume having good sex probably helped them in their primary relationship.

bobby63114
Aug 2, 2023, 10:00 AM
What is the real difference between MMF, MFM, FMM? Isn't it still 1 female and 2 males any way you look at it?


My bi wife and I have never had any difficulty making MFM and MMF encounters work out for all involved. We only see bi men so we both can enjoy them (bottoms preferred). Many of the men are married but their wives have given up on sex so they have us as an outlet. I cn only assume having good sex probably helped them in their primary relationship.

fredward
Aug 2, 2023, 10:56 AM
Within the swinger community, MFM usually implies the woman gets attention from both men (cos the F is in the middle), but MM play probably doesn't happen. Many str8 swinger men will do MFM but not MMF.

OTOH, MMF and FMM both imply that there is probably MM play also.

stephmtl
Aug 2, 2023, 11:09 AM
OTOH?

Bassman777
Aug 2, 2023, 11:12 AM
On the other hand

bobby63114
Aug 2, 2023, 11:33 AM
Thank you.

Neonaught
Aug 3, 2023, 8:47 AM
What is the real difference between MMF, MFM, FMM? Isn't it still 1 female and 2 males any way you look at it?

MFM implies that there may be little or no interaction among the two men involved. MMF implies that the men will interact with each other as well as the woman.

Kysquire
Aug 3, 2023, 1:41 PM
What is the real difference between MMF, MFM, FMM? Isn't it still 1 female and 2 males any way you look at it?

When I was young, 20's to 50's, a 3some involving 2 men and a woman usually was 2 guys doing a woman. Sometimes it was a husband wanting some help with his extra hot wife. My best friend had me cuckold two of his wives. He loved to watch and appreciated the help. A year ago his ex-wife drove 90 miles to his house in Florida to have a 3some with her ex and me. I take a viagra and he watches me and listens to her orgasms. He can't perform but loves to eat pussy. So she gets two things she loves: hard cock and getting eaten. My friend is st8 as a poker. Nowadays a 3some (in men 50-80) probably would involve 2 men having sex with each other and the woman.

foundpuppy
Aug 3, 2023, 8:49 PM
My wife, daughter, best lady friend and grandson know. Of course it is listed on any medical forms I fill out but has never been questioned.

Sundazzled
Aug 3, 2023, 11:27 PM
Mine knows, although we enforce sort of a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. That is, I'm expected to be Uber discreet and never reveal details of what I do, who I do it with, or where. Under terms of this very broad-minded agreement, agreement, I'm also expected to practice safe sex only, never take a man into our bed, refrain ain from being photographed in compromising positions, and never cause her to meet anyone with whom I've been physically intimate. She already has -- on at least three different occasions.She just doesn't know it. Rules, as they say, are made to be broken.:-o

To be clear, my wife has never been enthusiastic about my bisexual proclivities, but she has, at least, been accepting of the fact that bisexuality is a fundamental part of who I am. When I came out to her some 17 years ago, she said she preferred my having sex with other men to having sex with other women. Her open-mindedness, frankly, surprised the heck out of me.

eager4cum
Aug 4, 2023, 5:36 AM
my wife knows all about my bisexuality, my love of cum and that I enjoy cocksucking. we have had a couple discussion about it all but not very detailed and she has not pushed for more.

BiVers240
Aug 5, 2023, 10:59 AM
My bi wife and I have an SLS page. We regularly invite others - Men, women and couples to join us. She really enjoys watching me play with other guys while she masturbates.

stephmtl
Aug 6, 2023, 7:11 AM
Thanks for your frankness. Interesting to hear. I'm glad you seem to have found a way that works for you.

IamWhoIamBiSex
Aug 6, 2023, 10:43 AM
My wife is Bisexual and knows that I am also. Being her cuck hubby, sometimes she loves to watch me being used by her date. We use to frequent Henrietta Hudson where she would find her female friends and I would hook with any guys there.

atxbi
Aug 6, 2023, 11:10 AM
My wife knows that I sometimes meet men to suck. She says she’s glad that I do what I enjoy. In the past she has joined me in sharing a cock, and even fucked a few. Doesn’t do that anymore though.

dowmass
Aug 6, 2023, 4:30 PM
My bi wife and I have an SLS page. We regularly invite others - Men, women and couples to join us. She really enjoys watching me play with other guys while she masturbates.


What?s an SLS page?

NakedFun38
Aug 6, 2023, 6:21 PM
What?s an SLS page?

swinger life style

phalluster
Aug 7, 2023, 12:02 AM
Like the OP my wife does not know that I'm bi, and because we've been happily married for 35 yrs, I'm not going to screw things up by telling her. And because me being with men would be cheating on her, I'm not doing it.
I'd much rather be able to be fully open about it, but I also accept that this is not likely to happen.

Jozyxt
Aug 7, 2023, 6:44 PM
I am sure my wife figured it out early when I was still just feeding. She is smart and worldly. She knows my love of cum, me desire to eat another man's cum form her. I had mentioned a willingness to suck a cock for her in the past. Since she and I no longer have sex, she must know I am going elsewhere.

wifekinky4husband
Aug 11, 2023, 9:54 PM
Like the OP my wife does not know that I'm bi, and because we've been happily married for 35 yrs, I'm not going to screw things up by telling her. And because me being with men would be cheating on her, I'm not doing it.
I'd much rather be able to be fully open about it, but I also accept that this is not likely to happen.

Do you have a good sex life together? Please say yes.

wifekinky4husband
Aug 11, 2023, 9:55 PM
I am sure my wife figured it out early when I was still just feeding. She is smart and worldly. She knows my love of cum, me desire to eat another man's cum form her. I had mentioned a willingness to suck a cock for her in the past. Since she and I no longer have sex, she must know I am going elsewhere.

I know I keep saying it, but I hate this so much for you two. :(

NJwood
Aug 11, 2023, 10:39 PM
She knows. I told her when we were dating and she found that very hot. We were in an LDR so lots
of sexting and phone sex. One night I hooked up with a younger guy and she watched by webcam as I sucked his cock. After menopause sex diminished so she said it was ok for me to hook up with other men. She just asked that it not take away from our time together and that I share the details with her. That always leads to some hot sex with her!

wifekinky4husband
Aug 12, 2023, 3:10 PM
She knows. I told her when we were dating and she found that very hot. We were in an LDR so lots
of sexting and phone sex. One night I hooked up with a younger guy and she watched by webcam as I sucked his cock. After menopause sex diminished so she said it was ok for me to hook up with other men. She just asked that it not take away from our time together and that I share the details with her. That always leads to some hot sex with her!

Awesome for you guys! I love to hear couples who work it out. Thanks for your post.

KDaddy23
Aug 13, 2023, 2:24 AM
Mine does (and my first wife knew, too, and she was bi as well); I told her during our first conversation to tell her the truth... and as a test to see if she'd go run away. She said, "You are? Shit, you gotta tell me all about because I think that's cool for guys to be bi!" She had wanted to see me suck dick and I arranged it and, man, talk about a woman being hotter than the sun?

And it was the first time she finally got to eat pussy and she was thrilled that I wasn't going to hate on her because she always wanted to.

Bi-Rõnin
Aug 14, 2023, 3:35 PM
Mine knows. When we 1st got together, I had just gone through my 2nd divorce and we were just fwb since she was moving out of state. She found pics of me on my computer, which she only recently told me she'd seen, our fwb turned into a 3yr ldr before she moved back and we've been living together for over 4yrs. She's bi, and I told her if she ever felt the urge, I am totally fine with her having a gf. When I told her a couple of years ago that I am bi, she didn't believe me at first. Had to tell her how I lost my virginity before she accepted my saying that I'm bi is true. She said I dont come across as bi, let alone as a bottom like the other bi men she'd been with.
Probably the age difference I suspect.

marine20
Aug 15, 2023, 8:00 PM
i told my wife i was bi after being married 38 years .i waited a long time,i guess ,because she had always thought of me as being very macho. i didn't want to change her perception of me. but finally , i had to come clean. i new her well enough that i knew she wouldn't leave, but wasn't sure how she would feel. she took it well , and is ok with it , and knows when i go out to look for cock. she doesn't want to see it or hear any stories. her main concern was did she cause me to turn to men. i assured her that i started a few years before i met her. she felt much better about it after she knew the time line. i wish i would have told her a lot sooner.

stephmtl
Aug 16, 2023, 10:08 PM
Wow. That's great that you were able to have that trust and be honest! Good for you and yr wife!

Cuck2023
Aug 17, 2023, 5:15 PM
Mine knows what I am into. She doesn’t say much about it. I wish she was more into it, at least to be able to discuss my thoughts and feelings about it with here.

Curiousguy525
Aug 17, 2023, 11:09 PM
My wife doesn't exactly know. I have been totally faithful but love to fantasize about being with guys. I'm into anal play and she is happy to help out with that. I think she suspects I'm bi but we don't explicitly discuss it. I have let he know I am curious about sucking cock. I guess she knows I would love to have a real cock to play with

stephmtl
Aug 19, 2023, 4:55 PM
I find it a hard balance. You want to be open but know that it may cause a rift. And then if you act on it in private there s the guilt.. tricky balance ...

CALEXANDER
Aug 22, 2023, 3:21 PM
In 1998 I was on a chat room for "bi married men." There was a femine user name. I asked "What's a(User name) doing here and she said, "Looking for a bi man for my husband."
We lived together for 4 years. One bed, one dresser one closet one clothes hamper. :) When they divorced, the wife and I stayed together. We're going on 25 years. So she knows!
At one time during my "bi-life," I insisted on having a female present for any MMF activity. Finally, I said this is just a crutch to make me not feel gay. I like sucking cock and it really doesn't make any difference if a woman is there or not. Had my share of male lovers over the years. I still like the MMF threesome more than any other sexual relationship.

Bidirectional4u
Aug 23, 2023, 8:09 PM
Not only does my wife know, she searched out our first bi guy for a regular playmate. enjoyed 3somes with him for several years till we moved. Now we can't find anyone.

DLazguy
Aug 25, 2023, 2:48 AM
My wife would kill me if she knew that I've played with men. The sneaking around adds to the excitement though.

Sundazzled
Aug 25, 2023, 6:15 PM
I've been playing with other guys since a bout with cancer some 18 years ago robbed my wife of her sex drive. Initially, I kept my guy on guy on guy encounters a closely guarded secret. But after about two years of clandestine rendezvous with like-minded men, my wife surprised me, saying "If you ever decided to be with someone else, I 'd prefer it was another guy. That would seem less like cheating."

At that point, my spouse and I established a set of "don't ask, don't tell" policy, an open-minded set of ground rules for extracurricular sex;

1) Safe sex only...condoms are a must
2) No anal sex or anal penetration
3) Never divulge details of what I do, where I do it or who I do it with
4) Never cause her to meet someone with whom I've been sexually active
5) No sex play in our bed or bedroom
6) Absolute discretion is a must ... no explicit photos or videos
7) Never do anything that would harm my character or professional reputation
8) No sex play with another woman or mixed couple.

Yeah, well, I've broken just about all of those rules at one time or another, but who's to know? At least I get myself off every now and then with the participation of a friend.

Sundazzled
Aug 25, 2023, 6:32 PM
Couldn't agree more. I've explored most every combination; group sex, MM, MMM, MMF, MFM, FFM. For my money, there's nothing hotter than a threesome with two bi guys and an open-minded girl.

Neonaught
Aug 26, 2023, 9:28 AM
MMF is my favorite flavor behind two bi married couples crawling all over each other!

querty
Aug 26, 2023, 11:10 AM
My story of coming out to my wife is a long one with lots of unhappiness as a result. So I'll spare the very long story and hit the major points here...


When I came out to her I think if we didn't have young kids at the time, she would have left me. She was vocally very upset over the revelation, with/to me, and even more so to a couple of her guy (non sexual) friends whom let me in on some of the conversation years later. The main themes were "I didn't sign up for this", or "I thought I was marrying a straight man", or "how can he ever be faithful" (which is weird since we were very active swingers around that time), and "I don't find him physically attractive anymore". She by the way, is very straight. She experimented long long ago, but in a phase of her life where drugs, alcohol, and pier were the real drivers to her experimentation. She has NO interest now, and in fact is very wary of Bi women, and I don't blame her because has had bad experiences with very aggressive women trying to bed her, to the point where I had to physically intervene.


At first and for the first couple of years I was very resentful of her. Why this was a problem? The closest I ever got was "Because it's you" (see the above themes). She's not homophobic in words or action. Her dearest friends are gay, we have bisexual men and women as close friends. Why was it so very OK for them, but not me? Also, she's OK with Gay men and hearing about the sex they have, but not bisexual men having sex with men. The whole thing threw ice water on our sex life for a couple of years.


So I downplayed it, said it was a passing curiosity and that I was done with that, and it became a don't ask don't tell thing about my past experimentation. But in reality I just went on the down low and hid it all from her. I've had a few couples in the past with whom I had LOTS of MM Bi sex (and it was stellar!). She knew about them, just not the Bi component. I currently have a dude (who is totally closeted, especially from his wife) with whom I have amazing MM sex. That's cheating I suppose, but I believe having to suppress and/or deny a very big part of me would have worse consequences for both of us and our marriage.


So My wife knows that I have played with guys. And I have said straight out to her "I am bisexual, I have had sex with men on more than a few occasions, and I still would if the right man/couple came along". But somehow for reasons I believe I now understand, she still after all these years doesn't want to acknowledge she has a bisexual husband. As an example, we recently met a dude (we were vetting him, LOL) and he asked me if I was at all Bi, and before I could take a breath, she said in a kill the question tone of voice, "No, he is not Bi". I followed with "I've had some experience with men/couples in the past, yes". To his credit he instantly read the dynamic and maneuvered away from it. But I am sure he was interested in knowing because he is interested in exploring.


I no longer resent the wife for any of this, and in fact I support her. There is ALOT more to do with her reaction and views (and in no small part due to sexual abuse she suffered as a young adult). There would only be negative outcomes if I were to attempt to convince her that she should be "OK" with my being bisexual, or even more so, to enjoy that I am bisexual. Much to my disappointment, I am quite I ever be able to be completely open with her about my bisexuality. Fortunately, I have friends with which I am


After all this commentary, imagine how long the full story would be!

stephmtl
Aug 27, 2023, 5:58 PM
I really appreciate being able to share the discussion here with guys in a similar situation!

wifekinky4husband
Aug 28, 2023, 2:13 AM
Couldn't agree more. I've explored most every combination; group sex, MM, MMM, MMF, MFM, FFM. For my money, there's nothing hotter than a threesome with two bi guys and an open-minded girl.

I totally agree! grrrrrrrr

querty
Aug 28, 2023, 8:37 AM
I forgot to mention in my long disertation below;
I too have experienced many combinations of group sex. MMF is my favorite by far (when you have a woman who is turned on by Bi male play).

MAcpl69
Aug 28, 2023, 4:28 PM
My wife knows and that is great! She is a support that I would not have imagined!!

blatant_bi_guy
Aug 28, 2023, 4:56 PM
My wife met me for the first time while I was sitting on one of the most perfect cocks I'd ever seen.

marine20
Aug 28, 2023, 7:34 PM
My wife met me for the first time while I was sitting on one of the most perfect cocks I'd ever seen.well ,now you have to tell us that story.

blatant_bi_guy
Aug 28, 2023, 8:31 PM
well ,now you have to tell us that story.

I was dating a girl (who also knew I was bi) and we were invited to a Halloween party. Tons of people about, most of them were very...loose. A lot of suggestive stuff. Rumor had it the basement was the orgy room...I didn't get there.

This guy, Dionte was there. He'd dated a friend of mine for a while who couldn't get over his cock. He wasn't the best guy, but he definitely had the best my friend had ever seen.

So Dionte and I started drinking, he got pretty out of it and asked me if I wanted to go up to a bedroom and fuck. I said sure.

He wasn't too with it and I was buzzing hard, but Trey had been right, Dionte had a perfect cock. Just over 7", perfectly shaped, perfectly sized. Not too veined, not too little. Plus a pair of balls that looked epic.

We started with him fucking me from behind while I leaned on a dresser, then moved to missionary on the bed with my legs up, and finally reverse cow'boy'. That's when Dionte's grip on my hips went full-on and I felt him alternately swell and deflate while he unloaded.

Then he fell asleep.

I was so turned on by the feel of him, particularly the fact he wasn't going down, that I just wanted to sit there and enjoy him. So I did.

All of a sudden the door opens and a girl comes racing in, goes to the bathroom. I hear peeing, a flush, and washing hands.

She comes back out and sees the bed. She looks at me and asks if she can watch. I said it was all over.

We sat and talked for a good hour. Dionte ended up going limp and I slid off of him, but Mel and I hit it off.

Three years later to the day I married her.

Shyguy1376
Sep 3, 2023, 2:46 PM
My wife knows and encourages my cock sucking although she doesn?t like hearing details.

IDunnoMan
Sep 14, 2023, 1:52 AM
My gf knows, because I've told her about my experiences. I've always been faithful to and her to I as far as I know. She's a little BI and has recently warmed up to the idea of a threescore with a woman or trans woman, and isn't as opposed to mmf as she was. But im never gonna push for it because she worth more to me than any of that.

Jkf665
Sep 15, 2023, 7:49 AM
My wife would kill me if she knew that I've played with men. The sneaking around adds to the excitement though.

In the same position, even though there's not much happening sexual the wife. That said, I've got one FWB that's in the same position and we keep it between ourselves.

Sundazzled
Sep 15, 2023, 6:46 PM
My wife knows. She's accepting, but hardly enthusiastic about my bisexuality. I suppose she feels --and properly so -- that her abandonments of her role in the sexual aspect of our marriage nearly 18 years ago prompted me to begin exploring same sex options. We abide by a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" arrangement, and observe a specific set of ground rules:

1) Safe sex only; condoms are a must
2) Never reveal details of what I do, where I do it, or with whom
3) Never cause her to meet anyone with whom I've been sexually involved
4) Be discreet ultra-discreet
5) No explicit nude photography, videos or anything that could cause embarrassment or professional harm
6) Men only; no sex play involving other women
6) No drugs -- period
7) No anal play or anal intercourse
8) No sex with others in our bed or bedroom

(I've pretty much broken every on of those rules, but what Joanne doesn't know won't hurt her.

DLazguy
Sep 19, 2023, 8:34 PM
In the same position, even though there's not much happening sexual the wife. That said, I've got one FWB that's in the same position and we keep it between ourselves.

My wife and I have sex often, but there are things that I can't do with here. She doesn't have a cock for me to suck and she doesn't have a cock to fuck me.

sissyjackie
Sep 20, 2023, 10:19 AM
My wife only thinks I am bi-curious. If she knows has not said anything. Tried for years talking her into a 3 way with another guy. Have told her I want to suck a cock with her. She keeps telling me not going to happen. So stop asking years ago. What she dose not know I have been with a few men over the years and even dabbed in cross dressing. I stopped with strangers in the min 80’s. I have 2 steadies I play with they are married to and theirs wife’s don’t know either.

marine20
Sep 20, 2023, 1:55 PM
for about 4 years , my wife went to a dom for spankings and fuckings. he was very big on ass fucking. he had to get my wife used to it , but she came to love getting her slutty ass fucked. she even liked me fucking her ass. i guess to a woman , it's just as much a turn-on for them as it is to a man. we should not question it, we should just keep on fucking their whore asses.

marine20
Sep 20, 2023, 2:00 PM
sorry, i mistakenly put my answer on the wrong subject. it should have gone to women enjoying anal sex.

stephmtl
Sep 20, 2023, 9:41 PM
@sissyjackie how did you find your steady buds?

stonebow
Sep 21, 2023, 8:22 PM
Not only does she know, but I credit her with helping me to finally get over my guilt and shame and fully embrace my sexuality. She's bi as well and we came out to each other on.....I think it was our third date. She was also active in the swing lifestyle so it was not long after that she drew me into the scene with her FWBs.

DD788Snipe
Sep 22, 2023, 2:31 AM
My wife knows. She's accepting, but hardly enthusiastic about my bisexuality. I suppose she feels --and properly so -- that her abandonments of her role in the sexual aspect of our marriage nearly 18 years ago prompted me to begin exploring same sex options. We abide by a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" arrangement, and observe a specific set of ground rules:

1) Safe sex only; condoms are a must
2) Never reveal details of what I do, where I do it, or with whom
3) Never cause her to meet anyone with whom I've been sexually involved
4) Be discreet ultra-discreet
5) No explicit nude photography, videos or anything that could cause embarrassment or professional harm
6) Men only; no sex play involving other women
6) No drugs -- period
7) No anal play or anal intercourse
8) No sex with others in our bed or bedroom

(I've pretty much broken every on of those rules, but what Joanne doesn't know won't hurt her.
Your a bad boy :rolleyes:

NJwood
Sep 22, 2023, 8:51 PM
Yesterday I confirmed a hook up after work. I texted my wife that I had a “date”
with a guy I connected with online and that she should pick up some dinner for herself. Her reply, “Ok my little slut!”

gotta love that woman

querty
Sep 23, 2023, 9:15 AM
Yesterday I confirmed a hook up after work. I texted my wife that I had a “date”
with a guy I connected with online and that she should pick up some dinner for herself. Her reply, “Ok my little slut!”

gotta love that woman

If only!!

Sundazzled
Sep 23, 2023, 10:17 AM
Oh, wow! This is a lot to take in.

As I've previously mentioned in this thread, my Mrs. has known for almost 17 years of my occasional exploration of sexual intimacy with other guys. She's never been enthusiastic or even curious about it, but has given her tacit approval for me to play with select guys because she effectively resigned from the physical aspect of of marriage following a bout with cancer in 2005. In fact, she says sheds more comfortable knowing I'm getting off with other guys, as my playing with other women would seem more of a betrayal.

Until now, Joanne and I have maintned a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy under which I'm *never* to discuss what I do, when and where I do it, or with whom. A few days ago, however, we're having a Frank discussion about how much I miss the very full and active sex life we had before her illness. I asked her if there was any chance of trying again, for old time's sake. She said no, that part of her no longer exists ... but that she'd be open to watching -- maybe even helping -- me have sex with another guy! She said I could consider it a present for my birthday next month.

On the one hand, I've always been something of an exhibitionist, and allowing her to watch while I have sex with my buddy, Dave, appeals to my kinky side. Moreover, her willingness to willingness to watch, maybe even have a limited role in one of our encounters, suggests that she may still have some interest in sexuality, or at least some willingness to see me being sexually fulfilled. I know that some women become very aroused watching their man being sexually intimate with another guy. My thought is that maybe, just maybe, allowing her to see firsthand what I do behind closed doors with my buddy, Dave, might kick start her libido and lead to something more.

I really want to do this, but on the other hand, I worry that she may not be prepared for what she might see. She says she can well imagine what guy-on-guy sex looks like, but imagining is one thing. Actually seeing me with another man's cock in my mouth, or sawing in and out of my backside until he cums inside me may be more than she's prepared to handle. I fear she may find the realities of bisex disgusting, or that she may become jealous, or experience negative emotions.

I fear the risks of sharing my bisexual self with my Mrs. outweigh any potential benefits, and that it would probably be best to decline her request to watch me do things I've kept carefully hidden for more than a decade and a half.

me do intimate things I've kept carefully hidden for more than a decade and a half.

darkeyes
Sep 24, 2023, 7:40 AM
How many wives dya all have?? ��

Jozyxt
Sep 24, 2023, 10:30 AM
My wife knows. She's accepting, but hardly enthusiastic about my bisexuality. I suppose she feels --and properly so -- that her abandonments of her role in the sexual aspect of our marriage nearly 18 years ago prompted me to begin exploring same sex options. We abide by a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" arrangement, and observe a specific set of ground rules:

1) Safe sex only; condoms are a must
2) Never reveal details of what I do, where I do it, or with whom
3) Never cause her to meet anyone with whom I've been sexually involved
4) Be discreet ultra-discreet
5) No explicit nude photography, videos or anything that could cause embarrassment or professional harm
6) Men only; no sex play involving other women
6) No drugs -- period
7) No anal play or anal intercourse
8) No sex with others in our bed or bedroom

(I've pretty much broken every on of those rules, but what Joanne doesn't know won't hurt her.

That is a good set of guidelines. Except for the no condoms, I try to follow them. My general idea is to treat my wife as a silent partner in my activities. While she and I have never discussed it, she is an intelligent and worldly woman so she knows. Treating her with respect instead of feeling like I am sneaking around on her keep the relationship stedy.

marine20
Sep 24, 2023, 12:50 PM
sundazzled , you fear a risk ? what risk ? you're not getting anything from your wife now. worst case scenario is she still won't have sex with you. you lose nothing by letting her watch , and possibly something to gain . i say go for it. i wish my wife told me she wanted to watch.

NJwood
Sep 24, 2023, 1:57 PM
Oh, wow! This is a lot to take in.

As I've previously mentioned in this thread, my Mrs. has known for almost 17 years of my occasional exploration of sexual intimacy with other guys. She's never been enthusiastic or even curious about it, but has given her tacit approval for me to play with select guys because she effectively resigned from the physical aspect of of marriage following a bout with cancer in 2005. In fact, she says sheds more comfortable knowing I'm getting off with other guys, as my playing with other women would seem more of a betrayal.

Until now, Joanne and I have maintned a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy under which I'm *never* to discuss what I do, when and where I do it, or with whom. A few days ago, however, we're having a Frank discussion about how much I miss the very full and active sex life we had before her illness. I asked her if there was any chance of trying again, for old time's sake. She said no, that part of her no longer exists ... but that she'd be open to watching -- maybe even helping -- me have sex with another guy! She said I could consider it a present for my birthday next month.

On the one hand, I've always been something of an exhibitionist, and allowing her to watch while I have sex with my buddy, Dave, appeals to my kinky side. Moreover, her willingness to willingness to watch, maybe even have a limited role in one of our encounters, suggests that she may still have some interest in sexuality, or at least some willingness to see me being sexually fulfilled. I know that some women become very aroused watching their man being sexually intimate with another guy. My thought is that maybe, just maybe, allowing her to see firsthand what I do behind closed doors with my buddy, Dave, might kick start her libido and lead to something more.

I really want to do this, but on the other hand, I worry that she may not be prepared for what she might see. She says she can well imagine what guy-on-guy sex looks like, but imagining is one thing. Actually seeing me with another man's cock in my mouth, or sawing in and out of my backside until he cums inside me may be more than she's prepared to handle. I fear she may find the realities of bisex disgusting, or that she may become jealous, or experience negative emotions.

I fear the risks of sharing my bisexual self with my Mrs. outweigh any potential benefits, and that it would probably be best to decline her request to watch me do things I've kept carefully hidden for more than a decade and a half.

me do intimate things I've kept carefully hidden for more than a decade and a half.
Sit down with her and discuss it. Find some ground rules, maybe start by sharing some pics or videos if your male partner is cool with that. Let her then decide if she likes it and wants to be there in person. My wife has told me she is not interested in being there live, whether it?s physically or livestream. But she does love videos sent to her. When I got home that night and we talked about what went down she was disappointed that I didn?t have any videos of the action, especially getting my ass fucked. She is free to tell me what she is uncomfortable with (another woman being one of them), so we can both enjoy and feel good about it. Ease into it and keep talking honestly about it.

jjourneyman
Oct 1, 2023, 8:41 PM
I've only been with a couple of guys who've told me that their wives knew and approved of their MM play. The vast majority of married men I've been with have insisted on complete discretion as they were afraid what might happen to their marriage if their wife or anyone they knew found out about their interest in other guys. I did have one female lover who said she would love to see her husband with another guy, but she didn't think he would go for it and was afraid to bring up the subject with him (obviously, he had no idea about us). I have been involved in a number of MFM threesomes, and some of them were married couples, but the play was always focused on the wife.

Roxxi
Oct 1, 2023, 10:09 PM
Wife caught me sucking a guy who came to repair the washing machine. I guess she knows now!

Cforme
Oct 4, 2023, 10:41 PM
Wife caught me sucking a guy who came to repair the washing machine. I guess she knows now!
I need my washing machine fixed!!! LOL!

Mine would freak. She?s probably the prudest woman I?ve ever been with and wouldn?t understand. I have to push for more non traditional sex as it is. She doesn?t understand how much I love going down in the first place. I blame my first real girlfriend who?s ex was a male stripper and she taught me EVERYTHING! The world really opened up for me after her. I keep trying though!

wifekinky4husband
Oct 5, 2023, 3:59 AM
Wife caught me sucking a guy who came to repair the washing machine. I guess she knows now!

And...... ???? How is it going?

JordanCD
Oct 5, 2023, 6:48 AM
I’ve never told her, but I’m 99% sure she’s put one and one together over the years. In my experience women “know” more than you think.

She once saw a picture of my butt on the computer. I had deleted it by the time she asked about it and I just played dumb, and she didn’t push the issue.

I shave my ass and enjoy anal play and she sometimes helps me with it during sex.

She once found some of my lingerie (sometimes I crossdress when I masturbate) and she was just relieved it was mine and not another woman’s.

The fact that she hasn’t asked for more details or brought up the topic in 20 years tells me she’s not very open to a “change”, so there is no point in me coming out to her.

fredward
Oct 9, 2023, 7:51 PM
We've had a few MMFs before, tho MFFs and MFMFs are a lot more common, mostly because most swingers are not into MM play. She's seen me blow a guy and swallow his load.

We currently have a regular MF couple where the play sessions usually have MM play. The only problem is that the other woman is not into FF play, so any MM play leaves her out of the picture. Not that it doesn't happen tho. He's into cum play, which I find a bit gross (I like to swallow, but not swap), so he often ends up cumming in my wife's mouth, and kisses her after cos she's into that.

sissyjackie
Dec 4, 2023, 8:41 AM
Found them on chat rooms. sites like this. double list to

Lemonade1184
Dec 4, 2023, 9:40 AM
My wife knows about my past experiences. I have not acted on any urges since before we started dating but I have been very open about my past. She was cool with it but the topic has not come up in conversations over the years.

IndyBiJ
Feb 25, 2024, 9:00 AM
I told my wife that I was bisexual almost a year ago now, been married 21 years now. A coming out sort of talk, she admitted to me she had suspected it for a very long time. My browser history had tipped her for a long time. Wanted to know why I took so long to tell her, she had some basic questions about it for me that I didn't expect. We've not really talked about it much since, couple of little things she throws out there about men she has been with. Right now we are just little it play out.

Yoyome100
Feb 25, 2024, 11:28 PM
She knows

CurEUs_Male
Feb 26, 2024, 7:46 AM
They all know.

They being one.

MAcpl69
Mar 1, 2024, 9:36 AM
She knows and is fine with it. Hoping to get her to try recreational sex with others. She pegs me and is ok with me playing with other people, but she doesn't want to know about it. Hoping a situation arises that she can't say no to.

Grumpygrandpa
Mar 1, 2024, 6:23 PM
I doubt if the first two did and the last one never questioned me. Kinda hard to ask her now she passed away July of 2010. So that's the best answer I can honestly give. When married I was satisfied. When not I wasn't going after anything special. Kinda all over the map as it were.