help me please...........

[halk008]

hi evrybody im halk from syria....21 years ....student ...........
so thats my story.............:
i born straight i lov girls too much ......but iv never mak love with them.........
so because i cant make lov with girls i tried to do things wih my friend (i mean boys)..............and masturbate.........
do things with boy make me happy but i still straight ...(i mean lov girls too much but i cant mae lov with them..)..........
then i used to do this more and more....s
then i stopped do things with men..............
anyway last three month when i was masturbated i feel the orgasm in my breast..not in my c**k so i was too shocked i dont know wot i must to do..........................then (i tell u ,i stopped do things with men )
but when i i magen that i do things with men thats inflame me .....
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my community and my parents .......they will not accept me
i will not accept my self...........
i want to be straight....like my all friends..........
may i will kill myself ..............
im serious .......
is there any hope to back straight again ????
if i cant back straight ..repress that feeling is god idea or not????
is there any way to repress that feeling ???
is there any way to be happy with girls ???
any way i heard about the man who is bisexual can make love with girls as lesbian.........can u tell me mor about it.............???
im in islamic country i cant do wot i want ...........
plase help ...........hope is the only thing i liv for...........

[Tynary]

oh dear god sweet heart plz dnt kill urself plz dnt hurt ur self. I was a depressive and a self harmer plz dnt do it u'll regret it.

[Tynary]

I've often wondered how islamic countries view sexuality. it scares and saddens me. look sexuality can be a beautiful thing. it may be tabboo it some cultures but it is still done. after all in victorian era of the uk it was very hush hush but people cud nt resist their lust or love and porn and prostitution was high cas of the repressed sexual tension. darling sexuality can be frightening and u really need to take time and think. years even it can take to find know you are. I dnt even kno.
i dnt kno a great amount bout ur culture so plz tell me more but love and sexuality does nt all have to be the western view which is lests face it horny horny naughty sex but it doesn't have to be. sex is about love. maybe if you found a woman u lv.......i dnt kno look no one can tell u who and wat u r. nt ur family nt anyone. u r wat u r and u just have to discover that. maybe if u try a few experiences if u think its wise to do so u cud discover who u r and then worry about side effects. I wish I cud help u and if u want to tlk further i will try and help u. but be who u r. str8t gay bi or a variation it doesn't matter u r still u and wonderful I'm sure.
lv Ty

[halk008]

thanks tynary.................4 support.......
anyway dot let me start...............: :love: :love:
im atheist but my parents are muslems........and i liv in muslims country..................!!!
also im bisexual.................its hard belive me...........!!!!
if i tell people here im bisexual....they will ignore me and dont talk to me ever
and maybe curse me...........or maybe more...!!!!!!!!!!
u cant talking about ur thouts ,to be anti god or u cant say u r atheist in puplic........and sure u cant be gay ....!!!!
here i cant talk with anybody about my feelings............even to my doctor................
so i dont know about gays , lesbian, bisexual..........
all info that i know i get it from porn movies............
so excuse me if im stupid in this topic...............
i realy need help with that..........thanks anyway ...hun.........
u r the first person i talk to her about my feelings................
:love:

[Tynary]

I'm an atheist as well. it must be hard for u and to be questioning ur sexuality as well. my mum was ok with it. I mean I'm an angry flag waver a bit haha but wat u say makes me a little scared and sad.
nt being able 2 tlk bout it. I felt that way once wen i was new to it.
deciding whether u r bi gay or str8t is hard as pain especially in ur circumstance. if u think being open id unsafe then dnt do it but always be urself inside ok.
I'll be around if u ever wat to ask a Question or just tlk. I'm nt greatly experienced either. I'm 18 but hugs and reassurance. protect u if i cud sweet heart.

[arana]

halk, please do not do anything to harm yourself. I understand you cannot be open in public but you must learn to accept that you are not a bad person and your feelings are natural to care and desire other people (men and women). Be yourself in private. I know that you are not alone in your country; Many others feel like you but are just as afraid to be discovered. Please be careful, be comfortable with yourself when you are able and alone, come here and make friends, learn, grow.....become the self you were born to be.

[bearisbare]

I also don't want to see you bring harm upon yourself for what you feel. I took a look at the website of the local queer Muslim organization where I live and came across some links. Within a couple of them are links to some email lists. A couple appear more gay-identified than bi-identified but I hope there might be something there...

Ahbab - Online Community for Queer Arabs Worldwide http://www.glas.org/ahbab

Huriyah - Online Magazine Dedicated to LGBT Muslims
http://www.huriyahmag.com/

I found these from Salaam Queer Muslim Community at http://www.salaamcanada.com .

Hope something here helps.

[clairey271978]

i feel really sad for you hun and for your situation and really hope you find teh help and information you need, but i really hope you dont feel teh need to harm yourself babes, u are who you are and you need to discover what you need i really hope you can find this from this syte, im always hear to talk and so are many others from here, please think about things properly and talk openly to others even if it is only on here ok...take care and wish u luck in your search for happiness and desire, clairey xxxxx

[babbington]

Heh, and I thought I had problems.

Move, dude. Move away. Your culture has a long way to go before they're ready accept you.

[suegeorge]

My heart goes out to you, halk008. Your situation is a difficult one, but there is always hope, there really is. Please trust that your situation will improve with time and, perhaps, if you are able to move away or at least stay away for long periods of time.
In addition to the links above, there's also Al Fatiha (http://www.al-fatiha.org/) which is based in the US and also has meetings in the UK. There is also a Bi Muslims (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BiMuslims/) yahoo group, but I would say that their focus is based around how to reconcile their religious views with their sexuality and as you don't believe that probably wouldn't help!
I think it's true to say that, for quite a few people on this site, this is their main place for talking about their sexuality, for being openly bisexual. In particular, those who live in the US Bible Belt where there is a really shocking level of anti-gay feeling. So while your situation is worse than that, there will be many people who understand some of what you are going through.
I'd also like to add that there will definitely be other people around you who are going through something similar - except that they will be keeping it as quiet as you are. One of the reasons I know this is that I get plenty of people from Islamic countries reading my blog (link below). I don't think they'd keep coming back if they really hated everything about bisexuality...
You aren't alone, even though it might feel like it. At the very least, there are plenty of people rooting for you here!


Bisexuality and beyond (http://suegeorgewrites.blogspot.com) :grouphug:

[halk008]

thanks 4 arana and bearisbare u do alt 4 me and i will visit all this sits..............:love:
thanks 4 clairey271978 .....im thinking now that i more helplessness to harm myself and thak u suegeorge i will read ur blog and i will talk to u about it ...............:love:

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babbington
Heh, and I thought I had problems.

Move, dude. Move away. Your culture has a long way to go before they're ready accept you.
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u make me laugh ...........move out !!!!!!!!
its more difficult than came out or to be str8t like ather people
but thanks anyway.....:love:

[Herbwoman39]

Haik, please, hurting yourself is not the answer. Please don't. You are NOT alone in the world. Now you have us :)

Living in the southern United States and being a bisexual pagan, I occasionally get a little taste of your world. It isn't right or fair for people to judge you based on who you are attracted to. Unfortunately it happens to many of us at one point in our lives.

The way I see it you have a couple of options. 1) Look intothe groups that were posted here and learn to be comfortable with who you are. or 2) Move. Get out of that country and emigrate to someplace more gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender friendly.

Good luck and keep in touch. We're always here to help :)

[twosides]

Halk - I going to say similar things as what others have already said. If you can't be who you are where you are, find the place you can. You said that moving is harder than coming out to people. But you also say that you do tell people, and thereby get stung by their criticism. So, you know you have the ability and the courage, to tell people. It's just another couple hard steps, then, to putting together the necessary plan to make a move. I hope that you can find in yourself the strength and determination to do what may ultimately bring you happiness. And please reach out to this group, at least, if you ever have any harmful thoughts. We will be here for you.

[Melymel]

oh hunnie i wish I could go there and protect you i do not know much about the middleeastern community but i do know its A HUGE TABOO being bi or gay just remember everything happens for a reason and what does not kill you makes you stronger, i know ur having a tough time but there is nothing wrong with you being attracted to males Please dont think of harming yourself u have a long life ahead of you with many exciting things to look forward too Be carefull and be yourself. Be true to yourself and don't deny yourself the pleasure u know you want, Don't let them keep you down keep your head up and be strong

PLEASE don't hurt yourself

I can tell you from experience it can just depress you so much more and cause your family a lot of pain

Hugs and kisses :rolleyes:

[onewhocares]

Dear Man,

Please, do not do anything that will hurt you. You say you have no one to talk to, but in reality you do, US. We are hear to listen and to try and understand you. I know that I have found lots of wonderful people here to talk with, on many different levels. I also echo the sentiments of those who have posted and want you to be comfortable within your own skin. Never hesitate to share your thoughts with us.

Belle