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SLIMES
Oct 14, 2006, 9:28 AM
I was just looking in the book section and I saw something with a title like this: 'The lives of Gay and Bisexual husbands'. :eek:

Am I the only one who's slighty annoyed by that title? Two recent threads on this forum involve bi men telling their girlfriends. This book doesn't look very helpful. I won't say exactly why because I'd like to know what you think first...

dfwbi-cyclist
Oct 14, 2006, 10:20 AM
What's to be annoyed with? The title lists both lifestyles, it doesn't assume they are the same. It is authored by Dr. Klein after all, and he is the LAST person that would try to say bi is the same is gay.

While I dont agree with Dr . Klein on everything, he is/was considered to be at the forefront of the whole "Bisexuality does exist" movement. So as a guy who came out to his wife two years into the relationship (six years ago and still happy thank you), I guess I don't see the reason you are annoyed.

Did you sign in to Amazon and read the exerpts and back cover?

Tynary
Oct 14, 2006, 4:21 PM
um why are you mad? Tell us more about what this book thing says. Its hard to make a judgment by the title. WHat does it say that it ruins families or something?

Qetesh
Oct 14, 2006, 4:31 PM
Um, my hubby is bi, and that title doesnt bother me (or him) at all, at least it aknowledges bisexuality as seperate to being gay!!! Why does it bother you so much? Is it because its not about gay/bi wives/spouses in general.... in which case I am sure there are other book to deal with that!

SLIMES
Oct 14, 2006, 6:50 PM
I suupose it's my problem really. I just felt that it almost implied that gay/bi husbands are the same when they are very different. i know it doesn't say that but I would have thought that Klein could have come up with a more helpful title (or perhaps a more interesting one lol.)

codybear3
Oct 15, 2006, 2:18 PM
As the old saying goes, SLIMES...You can't judge a book by its cover....or its title in this case... :paw: :paw:

csrakate
Oct 15, 2006, 2:46 PM
Having not read the book I would merely assume that Dr. Klein is addressing the issue of men who enter into marital relationships while all the while knowing that they have sexuality issues that they may or may not have shared with their spouse. This is a situation that many men seem to face and I would feel he could offer some insight into the phenomenon. Whether the man is gay or bisexual, he still faces hardships having done so.

Hugs,
Kate

Herbwoman39
Oct 15, 2006, 4:46 PM
...I would have thought that Klein could have come up with a more helpful title (or perhaps a more interesting one lol.)

LOL! Keep in mind, Dr. Klein was a research scientist. When it comes to statisitcal analysis, you're really not allowed to have an imagination, let alone use it.

I was once a psychology student and I remember my psyc stats class (shudders). Nope. No imagination allowed. :)

DiamondDog
Oct 15, 2006, 5:13 PM
I'm not offended at the title since I think that if you are bi/gay and get married you should tell the other person, as it will come out sooner or later.

justafriend
Oct 15, 2006, 11:50 PM
I suupose it's my problem really. I just felt that it almost implied that gay/bi husbands are the same when they are very different. i know it doesn't say that but I would have thought that Klein could have come up with a more helpful title (or perhaps a more interesting one lol.)

Well, I haven't read the book, but I get what you're talking about. A married couple with a bi guy and a married couple with a gay guy present two totally different dynamics and shouldn't be lumped together. One is very workable (and a lot of fun maybe) and one is probably not. I don't know how the book handles this but the title presents the wrong perception in my opinion.

jack6two
Oct 16, 2006, 5:19 AM
I'm afraid too my wife to explain that boys turn me on, when i see nice cocks, strong asses splended gays!??! :( :male: :female:

Just_Gem
Oct 16, 2006, 10:05 AM
LOL! Keep in mind, Dr. Klein was a research scientist. When it comes to statisitcal analysis, you're really not allowed to have an imagination, let alone use it.

I was once a psychology student and I remember my psyc stats class (shudders). Nope. No imagination allowed. :)

I too was a psych student (have a degree in it even) and remember well my stats class. It was that prof that gave me the definition I still use for "NORMAL" :wacko:
He told us in answer to one of the questions about "what is normal" that there is no such thing as normal when talking about human beings. There are personal and societal norms but no normal. When applied to humans, normal was merely the figment of some screwed up psychiatrist's imagination - probably Freud (he was very anti-Freud)

As for the book title - I wouldn't judge it on title alone. I've read many books that the title alone would not have made me interested but reading the blogs on the back or the covers piqued my interest. As to whether or not it may appear that Klein was lumping gay & bi together, that would depend on how the title was written - i.e. Gay/Bi or Gay & Bi - both use the same terms but mean totally different. The 1st lumps them together and the 2nd seperates them.
____________
Title: Bisexual and Gay Husbands: Their Stories, Their Words
Author(s): Fritz Klein, Thomas Schwartz
____________

To me this title indicates that they are seperated. Why though, with all the titles in the book section that are about Gay, Lesbian and Bi, would you pick on just this one? Many of the other books also have them linked in a similar manner.

ex. Title: A Woman Like That: Lesbian and Bisexual Writers Tell Their Coming Out Stories
Author(s): Joan Larkin

Just my :2cents:

Gem :bibounce: :wiggle2:

SLIMES
Oct 16, 2006, 7:27 PM
....Many of the other books also have them linked in a similar manner.

ex. Title: A Woman Like That: Lesbian and Bisexual Writers Tell Their Coming Out Stories
Author(s): Joan Larkin

Gem :bibounce: :wiggle2:

Because Klein's book refers to marriage where the difference between gay and bi moves form being important to absolutly crucial.

kshotbiman
Oct 17, 2006, 12:17 AM
so whats the problem?

next my bi wife is gonna be a book topic with a bi hubby.....


lol give me a book advance ill write a lame book too....


my gay lover and my bi wife


seems like a best seller to me


:flag1:

twosides
Oct 17, 2006, 2:39 AM
I thought the book was about two guys in a marital relationship where one was a "5" and one was a "3".

twosides
Oct 17, 2006, 8:42 AM
Bisexual and Gay Husbands: Their Stories, Their Words

Ok, the joke would have been better if I had said:

I thought the book was about two guys writing about their marital relationship whose profiles on bisexual.com listed a "4" for the first and a "7" for the other one.

sysper
Apr 30, 2018, 7:10 PM
i agree it might not seem clear klein was talking about each separately, but how would u make it clearer?

void()
May 2, 2018, 12:21 AM
Because Klein's book refers to marriage where the difference between gay and bi moves form being important to absolutly crucial.

Damn! Absolutely crucial, even. It isn't merely a simply crucial, or maybe just a kind of crucial, oh no it's absolutely crucial. When someone begins defining absolutes I am usually wandering away slowly to avoid drawing attention. Absolutes strike me as being hilarious simply for existing.

There's no day without night and day. No light without darkness, life without death. In my humble view the cosmos seems keen to present many shades of grey/gray/gr eh. That leads me to question if absolutes are valid, or even do exist at times.

Tread us light upon the dwindling life befallen us, a gift it is to simply live it. I do know of some, yet few and rare absolutes. Nay am I trying to take ye for a piss here. Please though don't go fretting the absolutes. :) I understand your point of view love, not that I do not, rather that I like realizing I'm just a speck of dust in it all. In that, the absolutes bear no great sense of meaning crucial or otherwise.

Seems you might be hung over the idea of marriage. If you're not I apologize. My thought is why would it be crucial either way only for marriage and not being single? I'm calling a poul fenalty on you now that I've had to think on this. You're discriminating between ideas. I'll take two meters and an offside kick in for your penalty, now ease way so I can goal the shot. Sorry, not meant as anything but good humor and different views, ideas, questions. Well there might be some flirting, never can tell with me. I'm a married bi man. :)

Avalokita
Jul 9, 2018, 3:06 AM
I'm married to my wife, so that makes me a husband. I also like having sex with guys as much as I like having sex with women (1 on 1 preferred, though), so that makes me bisexual.

Titles like that don't bother me since that's just somebody's guess about the lives of others. Since it would land wide of the mark of my life, as I live it, things like that are really nothing to me. I have better things to concern myself with.