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dowmass
Oct 8, 2020, 8:56 AM
First off, to those who think this is not the time to find someone to fuck with, apologies. Yes it's the covid, but really I am trying to find why Double list doesn't work for me. In the days of Craigslist - I would get at least about 20 replies. Some were fake, but some were real too. I met a couple of people who changed their mind at the last moment. There were of course the regular flakes - can't do anything about it.

Age: When I write my real age, no one replies - Does that contribute too - like I am a 60 + total bottom - double disadvantage? I look much younger (like i am 48 or 50) , but don't like to lie. Someone would say, after all it is about sex not getting married - so why worry. I don't know.

Married: I am married and mention that on the ad . Is that a disadvantage?

Hosting: I cannot host

On the plus side, I am gentle, can provide hours of pleasure to the right person, and healthy, educated, can carry a conversation.... I could cross dress for my man (a novice but quite interested in bringing out the "woman in me" ). does that matter?

I live in Dallas Texas..... the same place where I would get more replies in craigslist.

Lastly, what would you suggest I should do about the actual wording of the post to get one regular, hard horny top?

NJFlyer
Oct 8, 2020, 11:47 AM
Interesting question.

Age: There are many guys in the same age group - say 45 to 65 - who are married, and looking for some fun with a guy on the side. Personally, I prefer someone in the same age range as myself. Having someone not be honest about their age leads to disappointment, especially when someone provides their age as younger than they are. Rather be upfront about everything.

Married: There are many other married men looking for sex with a guy on occasion. I prefer to find other married men when I am looking. I prefer a guy who is happily married with kids, just like me. That sets us on the same page for understanding what and why we are looking for occasional MM interaction. So I would think it is an advantage stating you are married in your ad, assuming you are looking for other married guys.

Hosting: Most married guys can't host. I don't think that is in issue. There is nothing wrong with a hotel.

General: I respond to ads that provide lots of detail. I ignore one liners. The more information I read, the more I can make sexual compatibility assumptions, and the more likely I am to respond. So, be detailed and provide all the information that you would like to know if you were the one reading the ad.

bikurinpa
Oct 8, 2020, 11:50 AM
First off, to those who think this is not the time to find someone to fuck with, apologies. Yes it's the covid, but really I am trying to find why Double list doesn't work for me. In the days of Craigslist - I would get at least about 20 replies. Some were fake, but some were real too. I met a couple of people who changed their mind at the last moment. There were of course the regular flakes - can't do anything about it.

Age: When I write my real age, no one replies - Does that contribute too - like I am a 60 + total bottom - double disadvantage? I look much younger (like i am 48 or 50) , but don't like to lie. Someone would say, after all it is about sex not getting married - so why worry. I don't know.

Married: I am married and mention that on the ad . Is that a disadvantage?

Hosting: I cannot host

On the plus side, I am gentle, can provide hours of pleasure to the right person, and healthy, educated, can carry a conversation.... I could cross dress for my man (a novice but quite interested in bringing out the "woman in me" ). does that matter?

I live in Dallas Texas..... the same place where I would get more replies in craigslist.

Lastly, what would you suggest I should do about the actual wording of the post to get one regular, hard horny top?

For me the age would be a plus, but the "total Bottom" would be the killer! It seems so many are strictly one sided. Versatile here!

bikurinpa
Oct 8, 2020, 11:54 AM
Interesting question.

Age: There are many guys in the same age group - say 45 to 65 - who are married, and looking for some fun with a guy on the side. Personally, I prefer someone in the same age range as myself. Having someone not be honest about their age leads to disappointment, especially when someone provides their age as younger than they are. Rather be upfront about everything.

Married: There are many other married men looking for sex with a guy on occasion. I prefer to find other married men when I am looking. I prefer a guy who is happily married with kids, just like me. That sets us on the same page for understanding what and why we are looking for occasional MM interaction. So I would think it is an advantage stating you are married in your ad, assuming you are looking for other married guys.

Hosting: Most married guys can't host. I don't think that is in issue. There is nothing wrong with a hotel.

General: I respond to ads that provide lots of detail. I ignore one liners. The more information I read, the more I can make sexual compatibility assumptions, and the more likely I am to respond. So, be detailed and provide all the information that you would like to know if you were the one reading the ad.
I always preferred a married guy, but the problem is, so many married guys been searching so long weeding thru BSers and game players that eventually their wife catches on and has suspicion that they can no longer make new friends, if they make aa new friend the wife asks a million ???s because she is now suspicious!

KDaddy23
Oct 8, 2020, 12:01 PM
Age can tend to be an issue for some; anyone can be deemed to be too young or too old. Being a total bottom? Some guys love total bottoms... some don't; the inability to host is always seen as a negative. Having said all of that, when describing yourself along with your wants and needs, why not be honest about it all? It's not your fault that guys are passing you by and for whatever reason; everyone has preferences that they're gonna stick with no matter what so some dude might think you're exactly what he wants and the next guy reading your ad might shake his head and pass on you.

Plenty of dick out there to be had... almost as hard to get as pussy is.

emerging
Oct 8, 2020, 12:14 PM
What I seek in another male is friendship first. I'm not a blo-n-go type. Many man will answer an add with friendship first but truly do not understand how to achieve it. Find a few things you have in common with a guy, meet and do the common activity. For me it is outdoors stuff, hiking biking etc. Easy to chat, comfortable setting, then one can get a good feel for the dude. Many here just want a BJ, which is fine just not me. There are many post here and elsewhere looking for a friend first. just my 2 cents. Good luck, it 'ain't' easy

dowmass
Oct 8, 2020, 1:48 PM
What I seek in another male is friendship first. I'm not a blo-n-go type. Many man will answer an add with friendship first but truly do not understand how to achieve it. Find a few things you have in common with a guy, meet and do the common activity. For me it is outdoors stuff, hiking biking etc. Easy to chat, comfortable setting, then one can get a good feel for the dude. Many here just want a BJ, which is fine just not me. There are many post here and elsewhere looking for a friend first. just my 2 cents. Good luck, it 'ain't' easy

I was thinking on those lines as well - "being friends, and lovers", but i possibly in the era where we live, instant pleasure seems to be the norm. I will post seeking a friend and see where it goes.

As for the lover part, many I have spoken to say that the sex between 2 men is a physical thing - that a man cannot love his wife and his male partner equally. I have heard folks says that they will have sex with a guy - as a bottom or top, but will not kiss because that involves romance..... which is UNAPPEALING. I disagree - is there ROMANCE INVOLVED WHEN A MAN KISSES A WOMAN AND FUCKS HER?

TWO QUESTIONS:



I would love to kiss the next guy I sleep with - can you tell me how that feels?

I think a man can love his spouse / girl friend and a male partner equally..... Any thoughts?

Grant_Norman
Oct 8, 2020, 2:08 PM
I was thinking on those lines as well - "being friends, and lovers",



I would love to kiss the next guy I sleep with - can you tell me how that feels?

I think a man can love his spouse / girl friend and a male partner equally..... Any thoughts?



I normally do not just start kissing a guy, but when we are both hot and in the moment it is really nice and I do like it.

"Love" is such a subjective emotion so many times....I really "like" a guy I've seen regularly for 4 years...also liked his partner (who recently died)...but really do not love him. My wife, who is extremely non-sexual (8years +) I have grown to Not really love that much (frigid) but can get along with her as long as I let 100% of everything be her way(she's extremely NPD)...really just moved back after leaving her for 2 months for convenience and comfort and not expensive...all situations I'd be even happier with a guy in same situation that I could also have regular sex with

KDaddy23
Oct 8, 2020, 3:05 PM
We've always had this notion about what love is and how it's supposed to be and that it's really only between men and women and you can only love one person at a time... when the truth is... anyone can be in love with anyone and with as many people as they're capable of. We've always equated sex with romance/relationships and, as such, kissing is often seen as being too intimate to do outside of the relationship and/or if romance isn't so much on the table. Kissing is... kissing and it sounds stupid but it's gonna feel whatever it feels like to you. I've kissed guys and some I've kissed it was nice and with some, shit - I very much understand why women say that men are lousy kissers.

Sex is physical - duh. For a lot of men, it's just and only about the sex and romantic shit ain't needed at all... but for some, it's about the sex and the romantic feelings. In any of this, it's always about what works for you and what doesn't as well as what any of it means to you.

bikurinpa
Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM
What I seek in another male is friendship first. I'm not a blo-n-go type. Many man will answer an add with friendship first but truly do not understand how to achieve it. Find a few things you have in common with a guy, meet and do the common activity. For me it is outdoors stuff, hiking biking etc. Easy to chat, comfortable setting, then one can get a good feel for the dude. Many here just want a BJ, which is fine just not me. There are many post here and elsewhere looking for a friend first. just my 2 cents. Good luck, it 'ain't' easy
This is the best way to work it if your married, the problem I found, so may guys wives has picked up on clues by their continually searching and weeding out BSers that they become very suspicious and when they make a new friend, she is already suspicious that something is going on and asks millions of ??s. I had a oldder fishing buddy when my wife was living and it worked out very nicely, he would even go out fishing with me and wife and never the first question was brought up! Alot of times she would ask me to call him to go out with me so I would not have to go alone when she wasnt feeling up to going. Most married guys do not understand this!

johnnyy
Oct 9, 2020, 6:28 AM
I was in the same boat that's why I found adult chat with gays here https://vibragame.net/en/gei.html where I can chat with hot guys long lonely nights. For me it's the best way to try smth new and have some fun. So many cool guys and I can discuss with tham hot topics without censorship.

dowmass
Oct 9, 2020, 8:55 AM
I was in the same boat that's why I found adult chat with gays here https://vibragame.net/en/gei.html where I can chat with hot guys long lonely nights. For me it's the best way to try smth new and have some fun. So many cool guys and I can discuss with tham hot topics without censorship.


Have you been able to meet anyone yet?

bikurinpa
Oct 9, 2020, 11:31 AM
Looks like one of those sites "Join for FREE" but you cant do shit unless buy membership!!!!!!!
SPAM

KDaddy23
Oct 9, 2020, 1:44 PM
It's a royal pain in the ass to have to open an app or whatever and then spend all that time and effort checking out profiles and stuff in order to find the type and kind of guy you want to have sex with and more so when there are so many fakes and flakes and game-players in the mix... and there's no way to really tell if a profile or other offering is genuine and real or not. The best anyone can do is to put what and who they're looking for out there and, yeah, be honest and truthful about what you want... and now it's time to play the waiting game. Whether it's gonna be a very long wait or a short one all depends on how much you want to have sex with a guy and it pays to keep in mind that the more "conditions" you put in place, the harder it becomes for someone to be able to meet or exceed those conditions. We all want it in the way we want it... it's just that there are guys out there who just aren't gonna be of a mind to give it to us in the way we want it... because they want it the way they want it, too.

bikurinpa
Oct 9, 2020, 3:28 PM
It's a royal pain in the ass to have to open an app or whatever and then spend all that time and effort checking out profiles and stuff in order to find the type and kind of guy you want to have sex with and more so when there are so many fakes and flakes and game-players in the mix... and there's no way to really tell if a profile or other offering is genuine and real or not. The best anyone can do is to put what and who they're looking for out there and, yeah, be honest and truthful about what you want... and now it's time to play the waiting game. Whether it's gonna be a very long wait or a short one all depends on how much you want to have sex with a guy and it pays to keep in mind that the more "conditions" you put in place, the harder it becomes for someone to be able to meet or exceed those conditions. We all want it in the way we want it... it's just that there are guys out there who just aren't gonna be of a mind to give it to us in the way we want it... because they want it the way they want it, too.
Most guys on any of these sites or apps had no real intentions of meeting any one. They just get on when horny and find someone to chat with to get off then they go totally blank. Can not carry a conversation!

nu2curious
Oct 9, 2020, 6:46 PM
I don't think online scenarios offer even a shred of chance that an actual meeting of any substance could occur.

cuttin2dachase
Oct 9, 2020, 8:55 PM
I've had lots of success online meeting bi men and the rare bi mf couple and a few mm swingers. Not on this website because it's not known as a hookup site. I am not the type to seek random sex or cruise in public places to find it. I've had the most luck with squirt.org, aff.com and other mainstream bi, gay, and swingers sites. It takes patience and openness to meet guys online. You have to stick with it and be sincere, honest and polite in putting yourself out there. I am selective in my choice of sex partners, but not to the point of being nitpicky. I am also patient. I rarely ever look for instant sex. I do however maintain a list of contacts across several sites. If I've chatted with them and they've shown interest in me by staying in touch, more often than not, we do get together for fun times ! And usually sooner than later !

azirish
Oct 15, 2020, 1:09 PM
Hello,

I can give some advice. I have been involved in the Gay/Bi/Swinger communities on and off for about 15 years. During this time, about 85% of the men have been bottoms. (Or at least listed themselves as such) So being a bottom, is difficult given the sheer number of bottom men looking at any given timeframe. I'm versatile so its not an issue for me, but I seen more than a few bottom only men usually insist on 100% tops only. As far as age, older is great with me! As I only play with men 60ish on up, but this varies by location and timing. Being married isn't a plus or negative, so that shouldn't concern you at all. Hosting is huge issue, usually neither man can host. So you will have to work out a time and place, once you meet and want to go further sexually. Dallas is a good area for looking, so you should be good in that market. If you lived in a rural area, your chances would be severely limited.



First off, to those who think this is not the time to find someone to fuck with, apologies. Yes it's the covid, but really I am trying to find why Double list doesn't work for me. In the days of Craigslist - I would get at least about 20 replies. Some were fake, but some were real too. I met a couple of people who changed their mind at the last moment. There were of course the regular flakes - can't do anything about it.

Age: When I write my real age, no one replies - Does that contribute too - like I am a 60 + total bottom - double disadvantage? I look much younger (like i am 48 or 50) , but don't like to lie. Someone would say, after all it is about sex not getting married - so why worry. I don't know.

Married: I am married and mention that on the ad . Is that a disadvantage?

Hosting: I cannot host

On the plus side, I am gentle, can provide hours of pleasure to the right person, and healthy, educated, can carry a conversation.... I could cross dress for my man (a novice but quite interested in bringing out the "woman in me" ). does that matter?

I live in Dallas Texas..... the same place where I would get more replies in craigslist.

Lastly, what would you suggest I should do about the actual wording of the post to get one regular, hard horny top?