how do women see bisexual men?

[sysper]

i'm beginning to realize how much i like bisexual women! most guys know, the idea of 2 women being togather is hott! :love: but i'm not talking about just that. i'm beginning to realize there's a certain openess in women who are open to sexual pleasure outside of guys. it's like they are more aware of sexuality in general & there own sexuality, able to find more opportunities for pleasure for themselves & whoever there with. makes them more well rounded sexually. that's part of my attraction to guys actually, a search for that openess. so my question is, do women see that in bi guys & do they appreciate that? i realize not many women are on this website so it's probably not the best place to ask but figured, doesn't hurt to ask right? maybe some guys have something to say about that too, either about bi men or bi women.

[pole_smoker]

i'm beginning to realize how much i like bisexual women! most guys know, the idea of 2 women being togather is hott! :love: but i'm not talking about just that. i'm beginning to realize there's a certain openess in women who are open to sexual pleasure outside of guys. it's like they are more aware of sexuality in general & there own sexuality, able to find more opportunities for pleasure for themselves & whoever there with. makes them more well rounded sexually. that's part of my attraction to guys actually, a search for that openess. so my question is, do women see that in bi guys & do they appreciate that? i realize not many women are on this website so it's probably not the best place to ask but figured, doesn't hurt to ask right? maybe some guys have something to say about that too, either about bi men or bi women. Those are really bad stereotypes about women in general, women's sexuality, and bisexual women. Some women like us bisexual men, and others do not. Just come out to whoever you are dating be it a woman or a man and it's no big deal. If they do not want you because you are bisexual it is their loss.

[csreef]

I have been fortunate that I have dated 7 or 8 women that were very accepting of me being Bisexual. Two women from this group were also very Bi-curious. I had met these women from when I was involved in the S&M community, so they were more accepting, than the normal population.


Another woman that I dated, when I told her that I was Bisexual, she gave me kind of a sour look. When I asked her if this was a problem, her reply was, "well it isn't at the moment."

Mileage may vary.

[sysper]

mileage may vary yes i understand. i guess people into s&m are more tolerant?

[csreef]

I would have to say that people in the kink community are more tolerant and accepting of others, as this has been MY experience from the years that I was involved in it, and the different people that I met, along the way.
mileage may vary yes i understand. i guess people into s&m are more tolerant?

[rajones]

My current wife is OK with it, she found gay porn in my house before we were married. I told her then I was BI. To this day we enjoy a great sex life, including me using buttplugs and dildos in me during sex. I wear pantyhose and shorts around the house and she thinks I am cute. Have yet to talk her into a 3some, but we are talking about it.

I also employ a lesbian and she came out to me one day, then I said that is great I am BI. We talk about things I would never talk about with anybody. Unfortunatley she is lesbian only.

My first wife and I were playing one night and I asked her to use a dildo on me. She called me a fag and was discussed by the thought. Of course I never mentioned it again. When we would be out in public and she would see a gay man she would ask if I wanted him, I would say nothing. Later I found out she is bi polar, which may explain her actions.

In my life those are the only 3 woman who know I am BI, 2 are happy for me and the other one who cares.

[darkeyes]

Complex issue... as a gay woman whose roots are in the bisexual community and considered myself bisexual for 13 or 14 years I have nothing but liking and respect for men as a group of human beings.. but as with any group of human beings there will be exceptions. I do not for instance, like very much every lesbian I have ever come into contact with or every str8 person.

I never knowingly had sex with a bi man in the days when I slept with men, but then I never asked and the admission of bisexuality was never offered. However as I had a goodly amount of sex with men I would be surprised if one or 2 were not. Not that the knowledge of sexuality would have put me off. It is and always has been the person which is most important to me and how attractive I find them as well as how turned on I was at the time. Such criteria did not always guarantee having sex or a relationship with Mr or Ms perfect.. sometimes they were much less than perfect but then aren't we all?

Women have the same suspicions of bisexuality as the rest of the population.. there are variations dependant on country, ethnicity, religion and culture but always exceptions too... women who don't care about a persons sexuality. Suspicion of bisexuality by other sexualities is not unknown as every bi person knows and every str8 or gay should own up to even if they personally have no anti bisexual prejudice or intolerance. Even some women who are themselves bisexual run a mile if confronted with the prospect of sex with a bisexual man.. one or two friends of mine do.. many bisexual men do the same for they are afraid of what they are or are more likely to keep such encounters secret. Awful thing denial.

It is a funny old world isn't it? The opposite happens in a sense in respect of bisexual women (and even gay women to a large degree). People in the main are far more accepting of female bisexuality... more accurately because men are, society is.. western society at least and even more so non western society. Prejudice and intolerance of female bisexuality and homosexuality exist but nowhere near to the same degree as in respect of the male equivalents except possibly in non western countries.. Indeed, the conquest of a non str8 woman is a much prized objective among str8 men..

... In a few lines no1 can explain the whys and wherefores of women and bi men.. I merely threw atya a few thoughts of me own based on me own experience and the world as I see it..:) Complex issue just like every other issue involving human relationships and sexuality.

[Christopher South]

Good points.

I think what you see in more acceptability of female bisexuality than in male bisexuality is rooted in societal "norms". Whether we like it or not, men have always been viewed as the stronger, smarter, dominant sex while females have always been viewed as weaker and submissive. Now maybe in the past decades things have *slowly* changed but the ideas remain.

So a guy being bisexual is viewed (subconsciously) as "giving something up"... his dominance, strength or masculinity. While a female being bisexual appears to gain something. I suppose in another 50 years this will hopefully disappear but that's my take on what it is like today.

[whistle1]

I think that really depends on the woman.

My last girlfriend and I were watching an adult movie once. The two girls in the movie starting going at while the guys watched and cheered.

She seemed quite amused at the reaction of the guys as they watched the girls. She asked "Do all guys love watching two women go at it?" Without hesitation, I said "Yes!".

When I asked if women enjoyed watching two men, she said while some women might, neither she nor any of her friends did...

[cuttin2dachase]

I've been a bisexual swinger for most of my life. My 1st wife really got off watching me with other men as much as I enjoyed watching her be a total slut with other men. Only once or twice out of the couple of dozen times we had 4somes with other mf couples did we meet a couple whose female half was cool with her man playing with me. This was despite the fact that most of the female halves were bi or bi friendly and really got off on girl-on-girl action with my wife. As a solo bi swinger for the last 10 years, I have met only two couples whose female halves enjoyed watching or joining in guy-on-guy play. I've dated a number of women and been upfront with them that I'm bisexual and almost all of them never wanted to see me again after I told them. It is just extremely rare to meet a woman who accepts and embraces and encourages mm sex. Women are just not wired that way. My 1st wife was an exception, a total freak who loved everything about sex. And like me, she enjoyed experiencing it with a variety of men and women.

I've asked a few platonic women friends & confidantes who know I'm bi why it is that women reject and fear bisexual men. One of them said simply that women are by nature possessive and territorial. They will not tolerate their men desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other women, much less desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other men. Another said that to know or even suspect that the cock she's sucking or which is pounding her pussy has been up a man's ass before is a total gross-out. Another said that bisexual men are more likely to not practice safe sex with other men (or women) and she would not ever take the risk of having sex with a bi man. Still another one said that no man who enjoys sex with other men is a truly masculine man and, to her, bisexual means gay even if a guy loves sex with women too.

[sysper]

sure is complex i didn't mean to say it wasn't. i'm glad female bisexuality is accepted as much as it is not less, but i do wish male bisexuality was accepted as much too. like i said i think bi women tend to be more well rounded sexually because they draw on there attraction to both sexes, the same equally applies to bisexual men. should be encouraged in both sexes, well at least should let bi people be bi.
Complex issue... as a gay woman whose roots are in the bisexual community and considered myself bisexual for 13 or 14 years I have nothing but liking and respect for men as a group of human beings.. but as with any group of human beings there will be exceptions. I do not for instance, like very much every lesbian I have ever come into contact with or every str8 person.

I never knowingly had sex with a bi man in the days when I slept with men, but then I never asked and the admission of bisexuality was never offered. However as I had a goodly amount of sex with men I would be surprised if one or 2 were not. Not that the knowledge of sexuality would have put me off. It is and always has been the person which is most important to me and how attractive I find them as well as how turned on I was at the time. Such criteria did not always guarantee having sex or a relationship with Mr or Ms perfect.. sometimes they were much less than perfect but then aren't we all?

Women have the same suspicions of bisexuality as the rest of the population.. there are variations dependant on country, ethnicity, religion and culture but always exceptions too... women who don't care about a persons sexuality. Suspicion of bisexuality by other sexualities is not unknown as every bi person knows and every str8 or gay should own up to even if they personally have no anti bisexual prejudice or intolerance. Even some women who are themselves bisexual run a mile if confronted with the prospect of sex with a bisexual man.. one or two friends of mine do.. many bisexual men do the same for they are afraid of what they are or are more likely to keep such encounters secret. Awful thing denial.

It is a funny old world isn't it? The opposite happens in a sense in respect of bisexual women (and even gay women to a large degree). People in the main are far more accepting of female bisexuality... more accurately because men are, society is.. western society at least and even more so non western society. Prejudice and intolerance of female bisexuality and homosexuality exist but nowhere near to the same degree as in respect of the male equivalents except possibly in non western countries.. Indeed, the conquest of a non str8 woman is a much prized objective among str8 men..

... In a few lines no1 can explain the whys and wherefores of women and bi men.. I merely threw atya a few thoughts of me own based on me own experience and the world as I see it..:) Complex issue just like every other issue involving human relationships and sexuality.

[sysper]

it's a shame it is that way. sex should be something 2 people (or more :) do for fun & to enjoy each other, not determine who is weaker. i hope it changes in 50 years too, actually sooner. personally i think u can gain something if ur open to swinging both ways whatever ur sex. i'm not saying u won't if ur not. i'm also not saying im' bi. keep in mind i'm still questioning my attraction to the same sex. but at least i dare to do so. (shouldn't really be a dare just my right to know who i am & accept it)
Good points.

I think what you see in more acceptability of female bisexuality than in male bisexuality is rooted in societal "norms". Whether we like it or not, men have always been viewed as the stronger, smarter, dominant sex while females have always been viewed as weaker and submissive. Now maybe in the past decades things have *slowly* changed but the ideas remain.

So a guy being bisexual is viewed (subconsciously) as "giving something up"... his dominance, strength or masculinity. While a female being bisexual appears to gain something. I suppose in another 50 years this will hopefully disappear but that's my take on what it is like today.

[sysper]

i wonder if more women are turned on by the thought of 2 guys going at it than they admit it. it's usually more acceptable for guys to be freer sexually, as long as male homosexuality isn't a part of it. so that's why most guys know the pleasure of experiancing 2 women have fun with each other. the idea is a bit kinky, that's why it's so hot! plus it doesn't involve male homosexuality so it's safe for str8 guys to enjoy it lol. 2 guys togather is just as kinky at least from the perspective of the women. i wish more women felt free to enjoy that too. my gut feeling is, not many more women would admit to it if they just felt encouraged to be honest with there feelings. but i'm sure at least a few more would.
I think that really depends on the woman.

My last girlfriend and I were watching an adult movie once. The two girls in the movie starting going at while the guys watched and cheered.

She seemed quite amused at the reaction of the guys as they watched the girls. She asked "Do all guys love watching two women go at it?" Without hesitation, I said "Yes!".

When I asked if women enjoyed watching two men, she said while some women might, neither she nor any of her friends did...

[sysper]

even though i said before i think there are some women who would find they like the the thought of 2 guys going at it if they were honest with themselves. i accept alot just do not. that's fine there are somethings sexually i don't really care for either, i guess everybody does. but u can still respect other people like things u don't. it's too bad women can be homophobic just like men. male homophobic in this case. i can accept women are by nature possesive & territorial. but my question is, can't men also be as possesive & territorial? personally i would feel a little more secure if i was with a women & she had something with another women than another man. maybe a women like that just needs attention from both sexes. as a man i wouldn't be able to give to her what a women could. it kinda pisses me off, no it really pisses me off a women would say a guy who likes guys is not masculine. i would not wanna be with someone who thought that. even if i was 100% sure i was 100% str8. the other women seem to have valid points they might have a point statistically. but i think there concerns are more from fear & hate than statistics. why wouldn't the 1 women be concerned if the cock she was having was in another pussy? and does the other women have proof bi men are less likely to not practice safe sex? sorry all of this sounds like im' criticizing u i'm not. if anything i'm criticizing women who are narrowminded. which i know u are not :) happy u at least had a wife who embraced alot sexuality had to offer. again i'm not critcizing people's tastes or desires. u like what u like. but u can still be respectfull & reasonable.
I've been a bisexual swinger for most of my life. My 1st wife really got off watching me with other men as much as I enjoyed watching her be a total slut with other men. Only once or twice out of the couple of dozen times we had 4somes with other mf couples did we meet a couple whose female half was cool with her man playing with me. This was despite the fact that most of the female halves were bi or bi friendly and really got off on girl-on-girl action with my wife. As a solo bi swinger for the last 10 years, I have met only two couples whose female halves enjoyed watching or joining in guy-on-guy play. I've dated a number of women and been upfront with them that I'm bisexual and almost all of them never wanted to see me again after I told them. It is just extremely rare to meet a woman who accepts and embraces and encourages mm sex. Women are just not wired that way. My 1st wife was an exception, a total freak who loved everything about sex. And like me, she enjoyed experiencing it with a variety of men and women.

I've asked a few platonic women friends & confidantes who know I'm bi why it is that women reject and fear bisexual men. One of them said simply that women are by nature possessive and territorial. They will not tolerate their men desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other women, much less desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other men. Another said that to know or even suspect that the cock she's sucking or which is pounding her pussy has been up a man's ass before is a total gross-out. Another said that bisexual men are more likely to not practice safe sex with other men (or women) and she would not ever take the risk of having sex with a bi man. Still another one said that no man who enjoys sex with other men is a truly masculine man and, to her, bisexual means gay even if a guy loves sex with women too.

[sysper]

wow thanks so much for everyone writing about this! gave me alot to think about. i really hope we can continue this conversation. i enjoy discussing sexuality cause i wanna know all i can learn about it.

[The Black Knights]

From my experience, from the women I have spoken to...and/or seen in action, a lot of women are NOT into seeing two men having sex, irregardless of her own sexuality. Usually in a threesome or more, the woman wants most of the attention on her. However, I know of and seen a rare few exceptions to this. I know a few women who are not repulsed by man on man play....one or two really get off on it (even hearing stories!)...but yet she won't go out of her way to seek it out. A (straight or bisexual) woman SAYING she is cool with her man sleeping with other men (and/or TS folk) is one thing. Until she actually watches you and another man and/or TS have actual sex with her in the room, complete with moans, lube, condoms and orgasms wherever (and/or participates herself), all she is doing is speculating...or lying to herself...and/or you. Especially if she is bi and double so IF she has a problem with you watching her with another woman. Seen that "double standard" first and second-hand. Not good.

[LouisvilleBi]

Well I will just wade into the middle of this one. My wife LOVES to see me with other men. The truth is even though I know I had some bi tendencies well before, when she finally admitted that seeing me with another guy would turn her on, that was when I really began to explore with other guys. So I guess I would say that some women really get off on the whole idea of watching, encouraging -- even "instructing" guys as the get it on. She is very happy that she brought out my bi tendencies.

[csreef]

I dated a woman, and after a few dates, I told her that I was Bi...She took a step back, put her hand on her hip, smiled and said "that is just amazing...You are so in touch with your body, and your desires, and you've acted on them to satisfy your needs, ect."....She then said that she was very Bi-curious, and in college she had a crush on a roommate, but never had the courage to even talk to her.

She also said that due to her work (she was a Chef) she never had the time or energy to pursue her curiosity.

[thirstyfellow]

I dated a woman, and after a few dates, I told her that I was Bi...She took a step back, put her hand on her hip, smiled and said "that is just amazing...You are so in touch with your body, and your desires, and you've acted on them to satisfy your needs, ect."....She then said that she was very Bi-curious, and in college she had a crush on a roommate, but never had the courage to even talk to her.

She also said that due to her work (she was a Chef) she never had the time or energy to pursue her curiosity.

Sounds like she was a keeper!

I suspect that under my wife's countless crushing layers of social repression (her mother was right out of Hitchcock Catholic horror story central casting) she might feel the same. I think she is bisexual, and she has admitted as much on an intellectual level. I've told her that I have "strong bi tendencies" - again on an intellectual level. Whether that will ever seep through to the real person trapped inside her remains an unknown. I guess I'm patient to the point of death. But the possibility does exist.

[sysper]

From my experience, from the women I have spoken to...and/or seen in action, a lot of women are NOT into seeing two men having sex, irregardless of her own sexuality. Usually in a threesome or more, the woman wants most of the attention on her. However, I know of and seen a rare few exceptions to this. I know a few women who are not repulsed by man on man play....one or two really get off on it (even hearing stories!)...but yet she won't go out of her way to seek it out. A (straight or bisexual) woman SAYING she is cool with her man sleeping with other men (and/or TS folk) is one thing. Until she actually watches you and another man and/or TS have actual sex with her in the room, complete with moans, lube, condoms and orgasms wherever (and/or participates herself), all she is doing is speculating...or lying to herself...and/or you. Especially if she is bi and double so IF she has a problem with you watching her with another woman. Seen that "double standard" first and second-hand. Not good.all good points. so in ur experiance the women's orientation doesn't really have anything to do with how she will view the idea of 2 guys togather. i would think a bisexual women would have an appreciation for bisexuality no matter the gender. but i wouldn't necesarily be offended if i had a women & she didn't wanna let me watch her with another women. the way i see it, it might be something she wants to do on her own. besides i think my being there, having a guy there would spoil the beauty of 2 women togather, which i think is the best sex that could ever be. of course i'm not saying i would turn down the offer to watch & eventually join in :) but at the same time i would wanna know i would have the right to go off with a guy alone for the nite. but my original question wasn't so much do women get off on watching 2 guys do it, more like what do women think of men who are open enough sexually, there willing to have gay sex? do they appreciate that openess, do they see a different approach of these guys towards sexuality?

[sysper]

thanks for jumping in :) on top of ur wlfe enjoying the view, it also sounds like she might of picked up on ur bi tendencies & decided this is something u should explore. amirite?
Well I will just wade into the middle of this one. My wife LOVES to see me with other men. The truth is even though I know I had some bi tendencies well before, when she finally admitted that seeing me with another guy would turn her on, that was when I really began to explore with other guys. So I guess I would say that some women really get off on the whole idea of watching, encouraging -- even "instructing" guys as the get it on. She is very happy that she brought out my bi tendencies.

[sysper]

this is exactly the kinda attitude i'm looking for in a women. one who respects & appreciates a broad approach to sexuality. one who could appreciate bisexuality on that level. i just hope this women finally got the chance to persue her curiosity. sounds like something she should do.
I dated a woman, and after a few dates, I told her that I was Bi...She took a step back, put her hand on her hip, smiled and said "that is just amazing...You are so in touch with your body, and your desires, and you've acted on them to satisfy your needs, ect."....She then said that she was very Bi-curious, and in college she had a crush on a roommate, but never had the courage to even talk to her.

She also said that due to her work (she was a Chef) she never had the time or energy to pursue her curiosity.

[sysper]

it's the intellectual level of bisexuality i'm interested in exploring right now in my life. that was the jist of my original question. like what more ru aware of if ur open to swing both ways? & do women appreciate that about men like i appreciate that about women? i hope ur wife eventually finds the encouragement to break out of her repression & explore this very real side of her. i grew up catholic too maybe not quite the same repressive experiance ur wife had but homosexuality has allways been seen as bad. so i have struggled with admitting certain things to myself. but i know rationally i'm totally fine. it's natural & healthy for me to be curious & to wanna explore. also to allow myself to enjoy it if it turns out that way. it's alot to undo but like u said the possiblity does exist. i hope u can gently encourage that.
Sounds like she was a keeper!

I suspect that under my wife's countless crushing layers of social repression (her mother was right out of Hitchcock Catholic horror story central casting) she might feel the same. I think she is bisexual, and she has admitted as much on an intellectual level. I've told her that I have "strong bi tendencies" - again on an intellectual level. Whether that will ever seep through to the real person trapped inside her remains an unknown. I guess I'm patient to the point of death. But the possibility does exist.

[csreef]

Can someone explain to me what the "Intellectual level of Bisexuality'' is ?

[sysper]

hmmmmmmm......kinda hard to describe. maybe appreciation of bisexuality in theory, what u think of & what ur aware of when u experiance bisexuality. what things u see which u wouldn't otherwise. maybe even how it affects other parts of ur life. i guess that's a start.
Can someone explain to me what the "Intellectual level of Bisexuality'' is ?

[thirstyfellow]

Can someone explain to me what the "Intellectual level of Bisexuality'' is ?

Sure. It's when you have one of those rare discussions with your spouse in which you reveal bits of yourself you never told her in all the years you've been together, and because it's a conversation she seems open and accepting of it. Then you take the next step, like dipping your toe in the water to see if it's wet. You ask her if she'd like to play with another woman and you get the deer in the headlights look from her. From there things go downhill.

[csreef]

I once dated a married couple (M/F) . The wife told me that it was hot to see her husband making love with another man. She did not like to see him kissing other men...

At an LGBT center was having a dance that started with a community dinner. I was sitting next to a card carrying, Gold Star Lesbian. When she asked me how long I was Gay, I replied that I was Bisexual. Her very blustery response to me was, :mad:"You are really Gay, and that you are just deluding yourself, ect" .

I think it all depends on the woman you meet, and how open minded they are ... Mileage will vary.

[darkeyes]

<<<<< gay woman... knows bisexuality is a reality therefore bisexuals do exist.. had a ball as a bisexual woman for a long time and have many fond not to say exciting memories of same. In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!

[thirstyfellow]

In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!

Bingo!

The sooner we all can get on board with this approach, the happier everyone will be.

[sysper]

i think so, the more names there are the more people seem to judge. just have sex with the willing & forget the rest! wish more people were onboard.
Bingo!

The sooner we all can get on board with this approach, the happier everyone will be.

[The Black Knights]

all good points. so in ur experiance the women's orientation doesn't really have anything to do with how she will view the idea of 2 guys togather. i would think a bisexual women would have an appreciation for bisexuality no matter the gender. but i wouldn't necesarily be offended if i had a women & she didn't wanna let me watch her with another women. the way i see it, it might be something she wants to do on her own. besides i think my being there, having a guy there would spoil the beauty of 2 women togather, which i think is the best sex that could ever be. of course i'm not saying i would turn down the offer to watch & eventually join in :) but at the same time i would wanna know i would have the right to go off with a guy alone for the nite. but my original question wasn't so much do women get off on watching 2 guys do it, more like what do women think of men who are open enough sexually, there willing to have gay sex? do they appreciate that openess, do they see a different approach of these guys towards sexuality?

I would have thought so as well, Sysper. Unfortunately, there are almost always exceptions to every "rule". Some bisexual folk can appreciate such in other forms, just like heterosexuals or homosexuals, but others...not so much...even if they are such themselves. You are correct, some folk only feel comfortable expressing (parts of or all of) their sexuality alone. But to answer your original question...from my experience and what I have read...I fear that many, if not most women do not appreciate the openness of a bisexual man who is open (at least with her) with his being bi and I am not sure that said women would see this as a "different approach" toward sexuality, either. This is especially true. I believe, when it involves persons of color. In 2017, except for the most bigoted (and/or religious, depending on your view on such), most folk can deal with lesbians, or (to a lesser extent homosexual men) and (truly) bisexual women is almost as "mainstream" as being heterosexual. But (truly) bisexual men? Not so much, for all of the above reasons and likely more. Such is unfortunate...but more folk are cool with such than 20-30 years ago, when I was a teenager and had not learned about homosexuality, much less bisexuality yet. That is progress. I guess. If such is less of a big deal in 25 years, when I will be at retirement age (I hope), then that will be even better. I just watched the most recent episode of "Madam Secretary" and one of the male team members just told his boss and the main character, the Secretary of State (Tea Leoni), that he was bisexual. Her response? She just hugged him and said in effect "See you tomorrow." And she went home. Meaning: total acceptance. In 2017, we have openly lesbian, gay and bisexual characters (and real-life actors as well) on all the major TV networks and in movies...and not just on small cable networks late at night. And no one is going crazy over it anymore. If that is not progress, then I don't know what is.

[sysper]

I would have thought so as well, Sysper. Unfortunately, there are almost always exceptions to every "rule". Some bisexual folk can appreciate such in other forms, just like heterosexuals or homosexuals, but others...not so much...even if they are such themselves. You are correct, some folk only feel comfortable expressing (parts of or all of) their sexuality alone. But to answer your original question...from my experience and what I have read...I fear that many, if not most women do not appreciate the openness of a bisexual man who is open (at least with her) with his being bi and I am not sure that said women would see this as a "different approach" toward sexuality, either. This is especially true. I believe, when it involves persons of color. In 2017, except for the most bigoted (and/or religious, depending on your view on such), most folk can deal with lesbians, or (to a lesser extent homosexual men) and (truly) bisexual women is almost as "mainstream" as being heterosexual. But (truly) bisexual men? Not so much, for all of the above reasons and likely more. Such is unfortunate...but more folk are cool with such than 20-30 years ago, when I was a teenager and had not learned about homosexuality, much less bisexuality yet. That is progress. I guess. If such is less of a big deal in 25 years, when I will be at retirement age (I hope), then that will be even better. I just watched the most recent episode of "Madam Secretary" and one of the male team members just told his boss and the main character, the Secretary of State (Tea Leoni), that he was bisexual. Her response? She just hugged him and said in effect "See you tomorrow." And she went home. Meaning: total acceptance. In 2017, we have openly lesbian, gay and bisexual characters (and real-life actors as well) on all the major TV networks and in movies...and not just on small cable networks late at night. And no one is going crazy over it anymore. If that is not progress, then I don't know what is.hmmmmm male bisexuality seems to be the least understood, tolerated etc. it's a shame. i agree with u we have come a longway we got gay/les/bi tv characters not that big of a deal. but we still got alot to go. as long as there are politicians who wanna vote against same sex marriage, adoption & etc. but going back to the original point it's also a shame women don't appreciate bisexual men more than they do. is it all societal or is there just something about bi guys? then again i wonder if guys really appreciate bi women? gets most of them hard lol but is there anything beyond that some guys appreciate?

[pole_smoker]

In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!
Bingo! The sooner we all can get on board with this approach, the happier everyone will be. Attitudes like these are what impedes progress and continues the stigmatization of bisexuality, biphobia, and bisexual erasure. By not admitting and staying closeted to a broad swath of inclusive love, a human reality, many bisexual people who would otherwise benefit from seeing other people being out or open as bisexual will not come out or will stay closeted.

[thirstyfellow]

Attitudes like these are what impedes progress and continues the stigmatization of bisexuality, biphobia, and bisexual erasure. By not admitting and staying closeted to a broad swath of inclusive love, a human reality, many bisexual people who would otherwise benefit from seeing other people being out or open as bisexual will not come out or will stay closeted.

My thought was more along the lines that we place waaaayyy too much emphasis on categorizing sexual attraction. In my view, that urge to "over-categorize" (perhaps to establish in our minds who else is "in" or "out" of our own closely guarded group) contributes to the very problems you're pointing out. I do get the point, though, about issues like the relationship between stigma and bisexual erasure.

Maybe the root of all of this conflict is the impulse to stigmatize anyone who is not like "us". We see it every day with race, religious heritage, cultural background, economic status and so on. It seems to me that bigotry and the impulse to exclude others stems from an irrational fear of anything unknown or anything that might challenge us in ways that trigger our own insecurities.

[Joboo]

Certainly can't speak for all women but most I've been around including my wife aren't comfortable with it. I had a opportunity years ago to test this with my wife and I chickened out during the MFM. I was going to casually touch him but really wanted to go down on her while he was in her. When I kissed her after she had been sucking him she reacted surprised but didn't say anything. Then after she had had his cum in her mouth she kissed me and gave me the oddest look after I didn't resist. She has no idea I have been with two guys and one them was they guy from our 3way.

[csreef]

Why don't you be honest about your feelings for men to your wife...Maybe that would be the key that could unlock a very interesting door . . You will never know until you take the risk.


Certainly can't speak for all women but most I've been around including my wife aren't comfortable with it. I had a opportunity years ago to test this with my wife and I chickened out during the MFM. I was going to casually touch him but really wanted to go down on her while he was in her. When I kissed her after she had been sucking him she reacted surprised but didn't say anything. Then after she had had his cum in her mouth she kissed me and gave me the oddest look after I didn't resist. She has no idea I have been with two guys and one them was they guy from our 3way.

[thirstyfellow]

Why don't you be honest about your feelings for men to your wife...Maybe that would be the key that could unlock a very interesting door . . You will never know until you take the risk.

@Joboo -I'm picking up a similar vibe. You might find that your wife could be more accepting of your interests than you have been. She sounds like a keeper!

[The Black Knights]

Joboo...your wife may turn out to be totally comfortable with you being bisexual..but she might not. Folk sometimes do some stuff "in the heat of the moment" during sex (regardless of the type or how many folk are involved and/or watching...etc...lol), especially if one is intoxicated that he or she might not do if they had the time to consider a choice. Remember, a lot of (supposedly) straight men might not kiss his lady immediately after she completed oral sex on him...even if she swallows. Never mind if the cum is still in her mouth. We are not going to start about the men who won't go down on their lady (much less to her completion!).
Your wife probably was surprised that you kissed her after she had just caught the cum of a another man (and such was still in her mouth!) and under the circumstances, she is not saying anything! Not everyone likes to give oral, period. A few prefer such to actual sex...usually ladies. I would have no problem with it, especially since I am big on giving oral...and to completion and beyond. Plus, I have had past lovers who were bona fide squirters...(really!)...so if you can handle THAT blasting in your mouth...and all over you...your own cum (or someone else's, male or female) should be easy, by comparison (unless it is really foul tasting, which is a separate discussion!).
Yes, I would talk to her about that night and her feeling on bisexuality (for you AND her), but do it carefully. Even if she might be okay with you being bi, she may not be happy that you previously slept with two men on your own (especially since one was the guy in your three-way), especially if such involved bareback (I don't know if you had mentioned details on that or not...not that it matters.). She may also not be bi herself, which might make it harder. Be prepared for the worst after that conversation and hope for the best. But talk to her before you go sleep with another man, so you (and she) know what is up...just in case.

[al_atlanta]

I think it is fairly unusual that women are into that. The only gf I had that was into that was my last one, and she was seriously turned on by it.

[sysper]

i just wish much more women at least respected a man's decision if he decided to consider both ways, just like i respect a women's decision to do the same. and a guy for that matter. maybe there are more than we know but they aren't really encouraged to say so or even deny it to themselves because male bisexuality unfortunately, is more looked down upon than female bisexuality. should be about equal, & accepted. maybe even celebrated lol.

[csreef]

Unfortunately there is a double standard for everything in life especially Sexuality.


i just wish much more women at least respected a man's decision if he decided to consider both ways, just like i respect a women's decision to do the same. and a guy for that matter. maybe there are more than we know but they aren't really encouraged to say so or even deny it to themselves because male bisexuality unfortunately, is more looked down upon than female bisexuality. should be about equal, & accepted. maybe even celebrated lol.

[sysper]

it seems women only see it 2 ways, they either love it & get turned on by it, or they are repulsed & loose interest/respect in such a guy. i never seem to hear a women who doesn't care to know the details but, still respects it when a guy goes beyond what is expected or accepted & appreciates the perspective from enjoying both sexes & having a deeper insite into sexuality.

[csreef]

In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!

If only the rest of the World could be as open minded . . .

[The Black Knights]

it seems women only see it 2 ways, they either love it & get turned on by it, or they are repulsed & loose interest/respect in such a guy. i never seem to hear a women who doesn't care to know the details but, still respects it when a guy goes beyond what is expected or accepted & appreciates the perspective from enjoying both sexes & having a deeper insite into sexuality.

You are right. I know only one, maybe two women who are not repulsed by gay OR bi men, much less trans-gendered folk. That is only because she has been around and friendly with gay men and so on from her teenage years (perhaps before these ladies realized that she was bi herself). Even so, each lady (separately) told me that she really doesn't want to see her man (spouse) having sex with another man or TS, nor does she want her man watching her in bed with another woman. No problem that he is bi....in one lady's case, it was a prerequisite to dating her, because she wanted no drama from him if SHE wanted to take a woman to bed out of the blue and she would do the same for him..allegedly. Two reasons for the above: 1) She wants her sex to be a private one-on-one thing and she doesn't want a (active or inactive) "audience" ,even if it is (only) her man in the room, partially due to privacy (due to her/their high-level job and nosy family, including some haters) and also due to what she might do during such. 2) I don't think she wants to see her man having sex with another man in the flesh. I don't think it matters (she didn't say to me and I didn't ask) if he is a top, bottom or versatile. It is not her thing, as of now. These are middle aged ladies I speak of now, who may have done some wild stuff in their younger, pre-marriage days, but thinking and desires change when one gets to a certain age. Deeper insight into one's sexuality seems to not be a issue for them either.

[Bear816]

I for one did not realize how much a lot of women love watching two guys having sex until my wife brought it to my attention. She admitted how turned on she got watching videos of guys having sex. So one day she asked me if I would have sex with a guy so she could watch. I thought about it for a few days and then told her I would try it for her. She immediately found a guy and invited him over. After some small chit chat, the three of us went to the bedroom, got naked and started rubbing, touching and exploring each other while she sat in a chair masturbating and watching us. We started sucking each other and that drove her crazy and she orgasmed right away. He then shot his was down my throat and I the same to him. It was wonderful!

[Bifun2009]

My ex wife is Bi and we use to have 3somes on occasion with her best friend. My ex is a nymph and one night, she expressed how hot it would make her to watch a guy suck my cock. She even went as far as telling me during sex one night that she knew a guy from work that was gay and that she could ask him to join us. She said she would love to see me fuck this guy while, she sucked his cock from underneath. Not once, did I ever say or elude to it that I was interested or even curious about it. I kept shrugging it off and told her that it would remain a fantasy for her. A few years later, we were going through a divorce and the custody battle began over the kids. As time went by, I discovered from her best friend that my ex was going around and telling her friends, family or anybody that she figured was on "her side" that I was gay and use to ask her about inviting guys into a 3way with us, but she wouldn't allow it. During this time, I was fucking her best friend and she would tell me everything that my ex was trying to do to screw me in divorce court. Luckily, this woman knew that my kids were better off (safer) with me because the ex was extremely Bi-polar.

I would love for a woman to be Bi and that would love to share Bi experiences with. But, after what I went through. I still to keeping the 2 separate.

[thirstyfellow]

I for one did not realize how much a lot of women love watching two guys having sex until my wife brought it to my attention. She admitted how turned on she got watching videos of guys having sex. So one day she asked me if I would have sex with a guy so she could watch. I thought about it for a few days and then told her I would try it for her. She immediately found a guy and invited him over. After some small chit chat, the three of us went to the bedroom, got naked and started rubbing, touching and exploring each other while she sat in a chair masturbating and watching us. We started sucking each other and that drove her crazy and she orgasmed right away. He then shot his was down my throat and I the same to him. It was wonderful!Drool. . . *feelings of envy*. . .

It's so tempting for me to get lost in wishing I had what you have; I need to get myself re-grounded to make sure I don't lose my appreciation for what I DO have.

Still. . . God it would be wonderful if my wife could chill a little. It seems as if she's retreated from her demons to a place where she needs a dictionary to understand the concept of cunnilingus - something that she used to love. Her libido crashed, burned and then over the years instead of recovering, her depression built protective walls around itself so now the very idea of a sexual identity has become an uneasy, unclean memory to her. Any mention of playfulness from me and she's astonished, like a deer in the headlights, her PTSD making her alert, suddenly guarded and awaiting an inevitable onslaught of panic. I still love her, but sometimes the woman I fell for just can't be found in the chaos. I know she's still in there somewhere, though - she has to be alive.

[sysper]

Drool. . . *feelings of envy*. . .

It's so tempting for me to get lost in wishing I had what you have; I need to get myself re-grounded to make sure I don't lose my appreciation for what I DO have.

Still. . . God it would be wonderful if my wife could chill a little. It seems as if she's retreated from her demons to a place where she needs a dictionary to understand the concept of cunnilingus - something that she used to love. Her libido crashed, burned and then over the years instead of recovering, her depression built protective walls around itself so now the very idea of a sexual identity has become an uneasy, unclean memory to her. Any mention of playfulness from me and she's astonished, like a deer in the headlights, her PTSD making her alert, suddenly guarded and awaiting an inevitable onslaught of panic. I still love her, but sometimes the woman I fell for just can't be found in the chaos. I know she's still in there somewhere, though - she has to be alive.i really hope u find her again, i hope she finds herself again. it sounds like it's still there. probably needs alot of patience from both of u.

[sysper]

My ex wife is Bi and we use to have 3somes on occasion with her best friend. My ex is a nymph and one night, she expressed how hot it would make her to watch a guy suck my cock. She even went as far as telling me during sex one night that she knew a guy from work that was gay and that she could ask him to join us. She said she would love to see me fuck this guy while, she sucked his cock from underneath. Not once, did I ever say or elude to it that I was interested or even curious about it. I kept shrugging it off and told her that it would remain a fantasy for her. A few years later, we were going through a divorce and the custody battle began over the kids. As time went by, I discovered from her best friend that my ex was going around and telling her friends, family or anybody that she figured was on "her side" that I was gay and use to ask her about inviting guys into a 3way with us, but she wouldn't allow it. During this time, I was fucking her best friend and she would tell me everything that my ex was trying to do to screw me in divorce court. Luckily, this woman knew that my kids were better off (safer) with me because the ex was extremely Bi-polar.

I would love for a woman to be Bi and that would love to share Bi experiences with. But, after what I went through. I still to keeping the 2 separate.that's an interesting way to be discouraged from trying something new. i'm sorry u were put through this. but if ur still interested i hope u would consider exploring this with the right women if she came along.

[Bifun2009]

that's an interesting way to be discouraged from trying something new. i'm sorry u were put through this. but if ur still interested i hope u would consider exploring this with the right women if she came along.

I'd love to, but the opportunities haven't been all that desirable. I am 54 and and have custody of my kids so, I've been more involved with them than, looking for women at the moment (was 40 when the 1st was born). I've dated some women, over the past 8 years of being divorced, but unfortunately, I've been meeting women that are carrying a lot of baggage from a previous relationship or are ready to move in after the first month of dating or, I had one that wanted to travel the world and made it clear after the second date that my kids would be an obstacle (she had no kids). If that "one" should come along, that would be great, but I think a woman that is open to that is a needle in the haystack.

[sysper]

i see what u mean. it's clear to me u love ur kids & ur commited to them which is real good. ur a good dad :) u have shed some lite on what it's like to be a single father. when the time is right i hope u meet the "one" & both find happiness with each other.
I'd love to, but the opportunities haven't been all that desirable. I am 54 and and have custody of my kids so, I've been more involved with them than, looking for women at the moment (was 40 when the 1st was born). I've dated some women, over the past 8 years of being divorced, but unfortunately, I've been meeting women that are carrying a lot of baggage from a previous relationship or are ready to move in after the first month of dating or, I had one that wanted to travel the world and made it clear after the second date that my kids would be an obstacle (she had no kids). If that "one" should come along, that would be great, but I think a woman that is open to that is a needle in the haystack.

[Drummerman]

Good points.

I think what you see in more acceptability of female bisexuality than in male bisexuality is rooted in societal "norms". Whether we like it or not, men have always been viewed as the stronger, smarter, dominant sex while females have always been viewed as weaker and submissive. Now maybe in the past decades things have *slowly* changed but the ideas remain.

So a guy being bisexual is viewed (subconsciously) as "giving something up"... his dominance, strength or masculinity. While a female being bisexual appears to gain something. I suppose in another 50 years this will hopefully disappear but that's my take on what it is like today.
I think it's because woman and men find woman sexy so it is widely more excepted in woman. Men definitely like it. It's in men's mags, porn, spring break gatherings where people cheer on woman kissing and going down on each other. Would not receive the same positive attention if it were 2 guy's. Woman are seen as feminine so 2 feminine woman is a turn on. If it were 2 manly woman it would not receive the same positive attention. Men are masculine 2 guy's kissing is not the same.

[Drummerman]

I've been a bisexual swinger for most of my life. My 1st wife really got off watching me with other men as much as I enjoyed watching her be a total slut with other men. Only once or twice out of the couple of dozen times we had 4somes with other mf couples did we meet a couple whose female half was cool with her man playing with me. This was despite the fact that most of the female halves were bi or bi friendly and really got off on girl-on-girl action with my wife. As a solo bi swinger for the last 10 years, I have met only two couples whose female halves enjoyed watching or joining in guy-on-guy play. I've dated a number of women and been upfront with them that I'm bisexual and almost all of them never wanted to see me again after I told them. It is just extremely rare to meet a woman who accepts and embraces and encourages mm sex. Women are just not wired that way. My 1st wife was an exception, a total freak who loved everything about sex. And like me, she enjoyed experiencing it with a variety of men and women.

I've asked a few platonic women friends & confidantes who know I'm bi why it is that women reject and fear bisexual men. One of them said simply that women are by nature possessive and territorial. They will not tolerate their men desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other women, much less desiring/fantasizing about or seeing other men. Another said that to know or even suspect that the cock she's sucking or which is pounding her pussy has been up a man's ass before is a total gross-out. Another said that bisexual men are more likely to not practice safe sex with other men (or women) and she would not ever take the risk of having sex with a bi man. Still another one said that no man who enjoys sex with other men is a truly masculine man and, to her, bisexual means gay even if a guy loves sex with women too.
A couple of woman girlfriends did not like the idea of bi-men for relationships. Funny one was a bi-woman. Almost all the swinging situations I was in (about 30) I played with the guy also and the woman liked it.

[sysper]

A couple of woman girlfriends did not like the idea of bi-men for relationships. Funny one was a bi-woman. Almost all the swinging situations I was in (about 30) I played with the guy also and the woman liked it.
do not understand how a bi women would not like the idea of a bi man for relationships. seems pretty hypocritical. any ideas?

[The Black Knights]

do not understand how a bi women would not like the idea of a bi man for relationships. seems pretty hypocritical. any ideas?

It is hypocritical...but most do it anyway. Why? 1) Selfishness that men usually do to women in other areas. 2) She is repulsed by two men having sex together..especially if they want her to participate with them, regardless of her own sexuality. 3) If she got outed (as a bi woman) or worse, a woman married to a bisexual man (regardless of HER sexuality) the (potential) backlash from friends and family and/or job and/or church etc...would be unbearable (or worse). 4) Reputation is more important than (potentially) true happiness, in AND out of one's private bed.
I have known only one or two women who was cool with her man being bi...and married him and never looked back. Neither were "young" (40s and 50s, hence lots of all kinds of sexual experiences over decades). Both women had their own issues, with sexuality and other stuff, more importantly, never mind his. But they knew their man loved her for her and vice versa, and that trumped everything. Most women (and some men) who are younger (20's to 40) have all of the above messing with them and/or are too immature to see a good thing (in that person who loves them unconditionally) in front of them...and hence, they screwed it up. What can you do?

[darkeyes]

Of course it is hypocritical.. but why? Millenia of conditioning, fundamentally the conditioning of thought dreamt up by str8 men who have ruled the roost for all that time and have wished (and do wish) to continue doing so... big hero macho guys.. and women being historically (considered) the weaker sex and having little or no say in how their world runs fell into line.. and still fall into line.. the (str8) male world considers lesbianism a big turn on and always has done and so its ok because it is a male fantasy... it has never had the condemnation by society that male homosexuality has because in the main it is considered an abomination and a nightmare by that same str8 male world. Only now in the l8 20th and early 21st centuries in the western and developed world at least are we coming out of the sexual dark ages imposed upon us all by the str8 world.. principally the male str8 world... women are slowly coming out of their disapproval of male homosexuality but it will be a long time before they lose their inhibitions about it entirely.. ...

...so don't think badly of us. How women are is a creation of how men want us to be...in so many ways historically women's attitudes have been shaped by men's arrogance and domination over free thought and only since the advent of feminism, which so many men, even bi and gay men loathe, have women slowly begun to look at sexuality anew and that includes men's sexuality by freeing up how they think and what they want and how they see the world they live in. So fear not.. things are getting better and will get better.. the only problem for many of u is that u may well be dead before the creations of masculine dreams completely free themselves of the restraints put on their sexual and sensual attitudes by many thousands of years of conditioning by the str8 male world.

[sysper]

i'm all for free sexual expression so hope women become more part of shaping that or at least less macho men lol. i'm not expecting things to change overnite but i'm allways on the lookout for people who are open to the possibilities without hangups :)

[spemat]

I am a bisexual man and have an MMFF scenario. It goesin a Cyclone

[Joboo]

I've only been with one woman that I know enjoyed it in a MMF but several girls I had relationships with prior to my wife asked me if I was gay. I always answered no since I don't look at myself that way. Had they posed the question differently I may have responded differently. I feel totally hetro as far as relationships but I am open to enjoying someone I find attractive. In 50 plus years I've only found four of those and two of them I never followed through with. Now with little or no sex from my wife I don't see where informing her of my secret would be beneficial.
i think more women would be receptive if the actual event presented itself at the right time.

[Lisa (va)]

The best reply would be it is all dependent on the man and the nature of interaction with them, relationship? friends?
I believe it would be much easier for a woman (of any sexuality) to be friends with a bi man than to have a romantic/physical relationship with the same individual.
On average, a woman does not want anyone infringing on their territory, man or woman. Right or wrong bi men (in general) have stereotypical rap of promiscuity and lack of trustfulness. Some have mentioned the possibility a person may wish to have same sex encounters in a private setting with out an audience. Some may find certain things enticing and intriguing, but not all fantasies transfer over to reality

Lisa
hugs n kisses

[Fred_Brice]

The best reply would be it is all dependent on the man and the nature of interaction with them, relationship? friends?
I believe it would be much easier for a woman (of any sexuality) to be friends with a bi man than to have a romantic/physical relationship with the same individual.
On average, a woman does not want anyone infringing on their territory, man or woman. Right or wrong bi men (in general) have stereotypical rap of promiscuity and lack of trustfulness. Some have mentioned the possibility a person may wish to have same sex encounters in a private setting with out an audience. Some may find certain things enticing and intriguing, but not all fantasies transfer over to reality
Lisa, hugs n kisses

I do believe, that you are right on point that most women, especially, the younger and less experienced woman, involving most relationships, does not want anyone, infringing on their territory, either a man or woman!

[borntosuckcock]

Many years ago, I had a long term relationship with a married bisexual woman. She was married to a bisexual guy and they had an open marriage. She had a smokingly hot body and beautiful blue eyes. She loved to suck and swallow and she had the wettest, sweet tasting pussy I ever ate. We had intercourse ocassionally, but we both preferred oral sex. She was fine with her husband having sex with other guys, kind of fit with her liking to eat pussy sometimes. She didn't know I was bisexual until she invited me to her house the first time. She met me at the door and I entered to find her husband and another gal. What followed was one amazing evening of sex. Bisexuals are the best!

[sysper]

i'm willing to give any notion of any other person, male or female, for the right women. but yeah that's not gonna happen so feel free to bend me over boys & have fun with me
I do believe, that you are right on point that most women, especially, the younger and less experienced woman, involving most relationships, does not want anyone, infringing on their territory, either a man or woman!

[Annika L]

Hey Sysper,

I've not been around in what feels like forever, but I saw this and thought I'd respond with my own two cents.

I think a lot of it depends on what a woman is looking for in a relationship. If she is just looking for sex or for a good time, then yes, I can totally believe she may be open to appreciating the general openness to sexuality that a bisexual man can represent. Of course that isn't universal, and bigotry works at lots of levels, but I suspect a woman, regardless of her sexuality, may be more appreciative of bisexual men if she is just looking for fun.

On the other hand (and again, I think probably regardless of sexuality), if she is looking for a committed relationship, then I suspect she'll be much less likely to be open to the positive aspects of male bisexuality. The stereotypes are that bisexuals lie and cheat, that they are actually gay but in denial, or that they "switch sides"...and all of these (though destructive and baseless as descriptors of bisexuals in general, of course) are destructive to a long term relationship.

Why the double standard in women vs. men, then? Women in this society are comparatively vulnerable. We have this tendency (sometimes wanted, sometimes unintentionally) to get pregnant...and then there is this baby to provide for, and it's harder to do that alone or with constantly rotating life partners. So when women are looking for a stable partner, the stakes are much higher than they are for men...and so even if they find the idea of two men together exciting (and I have no idea how many do), they may find it difficult to want to flirt too closely with those fantasies. Men, by contrast, have the luxury of being able to be less threatened by the idea of two women together, and so they can be more likely to indulge those fantasies, and even pursue them actively.

[NeilThomas]

I dated a girl when I was 17 - 19 and the sex was amazing. She sucked cock so good despite being a teenager. Reason for it; a very high sex-drive and she absolutely loves cock.

Around 22 I realised that I had feelings for guys beyond that of just being best mates. I carried on seeing girls and guys too for a few years.
One summer aged 25 I bumped into the girl. Still very attractive and after chatting for a little while was evident that she still had a high sex-drive, constant innuendo.

I told her that I was bisexual and that I had met a guy, talked about him and turns out she knew him. Exchanged numbers to keep in touch and off we went our own way.
Got home later that night and spoke to the guy I was seeing and mentioned I'd bumped into this girl and he was like "oh, ah yes... I know her".

Few days later she texts us both asking if we would go for dinner with her. We said yes and two nights later had dinner with her in a local restaurant.
Food was lovely and drinks were flowing... Soon enough conversation turned sexual. She asked me "who sucks cock best, me or him". The answer was her but I was going home with him so I said "He does". This was like setting her a challenge. Not sure how we got there but she had invited herself back to our place. More drinks and a few hours later, both he and she are sucking my cock. They were almost competing. The night was insane and we all had a great time. She sucked us both off at one point with both cocks in her mouth at once. We did DV, DA and DP. he was fucking me doggy style whilst I was fucking her. She (and we) loved it.

In the cold sober light of day few weeks later, I ask her what that was all about and how did we get there. Basically wanting to know why a straight female would be entertained by two gay (albeit bisexual) guys.

She simply said, and I love it still. "I love cock and whats better than one? Two!"

In conversation she had said it'd been a fantasy of hers to have gay guys fuck her and her watch them fuck each other. She said that when she masturbates with porn that is mostly male gay porn.

We continued to see each other, all three of us, for about 2 years. It was real, safe and clean fun.

[sysper]

annika thanks for ur response! u brought up some good points. if people go by the assumption bi's are not stable partners i agree, bi guys do not look good to be in longterm relationships/marriage. i'm sure there are bi guys who wouldn't wanna give up both sexes but, i'm sure there are also guy who would be with just the 1 right person too. i think women should take that into consideration, but also be open to trust a guy if he says i do regardless of his sexuality. unless he's totally gay i guess but then why would he be saying i do to a women lol! this is something i didn't really ask but i'm glad u brought it up it kinda goes with what i'm asking anyway. anything i can learn i'm open! my original question was closer to ur 1st point. i was wondering if women were really unattracted to bi guys. like how many think they are less attractive or less manly because they like guys too. u seem to think it's not a bad idea & i know ur opinion isn't necessarily every women's opinion but it's good to hear from actual women cause i wanna understand how they think or at least know how to behave with them. or not behave lol :)

[sysper]

neil so glad u were with a women who had a high sexdrive & she appreciated male bisexuality! sounds like a unicorn. sounded like a great time! but it doesn't sound like the fun was very clean :oh:

[NeilThomas]

...doesn't sound like the fun was very clean :oh:
Clean bodies, filthy minds :)

[notmacbi]

As competition!