Brother's Cock

[phoseguy]

Do think it's wrong to suck your brother's cock? I did as a teen and really enjoyed it and miss it so

[bobby63114]

I did it also....and I am not sorry
.

[nashs.bath]

As a high school Freshman, I slept over a friends house and he told me he and his Junior year aged older brother tried it on each other a few times. I've seen them both naked and to this day I wish I was invited to watch and join in. Both are happily married now and very straight. Fucking shame lol

[al_atlanta]

I knew a guy in high school who sucked both his brother's dicks regularly and would have mine, but I wasn't into it back then.

[elmwood7]

As a kid around 12 I think my brother conned me into giving him a handjob. Over time he talked me into giving him and 2 friends handjobs then giving him a blowjob. A year or so later I was giving him and a friend of his blowjobs about twice a week on average. As we got older, married moved to different states it faded away. But to this day when were together we find time to sneak away and I blow him. I've never thought there was anything wrong with it.

[Old_Btm_Sub]

I never did it but the first cock in my hand other than my own was my brother's.I was 13 and he 19 and he was home from college and shared bed with me for a few weeks.I woke one night to find my hand on his cock,his hand on my hand and jerking him off.When he shot his load he pushed my hand away and rolled away from me.I had only been masturbating and cumming for a few weeks prior to this.Neither of us pretended we were awake and i turned on my side and quietly had a wank.This kind of scenario went on for a number of weeks.Neither of us ever spoke at the time,or since.We would always be lying on our backs when it would happen.The first few times he would move my hand for the duration but after a while i would continue after he made the first few strokes.I would always wank my self a few minutes after he finished when i would be happy that he was asleep.When he went back to college i would wank myself every night and think about his cock.At the time i was fascinated at the hardness and size of it,though i never actually saw it.Not too long after i ended up sucking a much older adult,but it was my brother's cock that got me interested.

[phoseguy]

My brother had found out i was sucking a friend of his cock and "forced" me into sucking his cock or he said he would tell everyone. He ended paying me a couple of dollars every time I sucked him. Little did he know I loved it and would have done it for free.

[rascal2014]

When I was 14 I enticed my 11 year old brother to let me suck him. And in return he sucked mine. We grew up on a farm and saw a lot of animal sex. I noticed one day while we saw two dogs fucking he had a buldge in his pants. So I asked him if he liked watching them. He said yes. I asked if I could feel it and he agreed. I told him to feel my now hard cock. So I said let's go to the barn so we could pull our cocks out. Once we were there I took his smooth cock in my hand again and stroked it. He was so hard. I said I want to lick it, so I got ony knees and licked his cock. He moaned so I started sucking him. Mmmm I loved feeling his cock in my mouth. I stopped before he cummed and asked him to suck me. By this time we were both so hot that we sucked each other till we cummed. Well he had an orgasm but was to young to cum. We enjoyed each other till I graduated and move away.

[nashs.bath]

If anyone wants to share their experiences, fantasy or real, feel free to email me at nashs.bath@yahoo

[bw299]

If I had a brother I would have sucked his cock. I was self-sucking at 13 (I hit puberty at 9-10) and sucked a couple of my cousin's cocks. I got my first load of cum (other than my own) at 13 from a 15 year old cousin.

[likecockfun]

caught wanking at 13 by my brother who was 12 , he would get me to wank and watch , then we moved onto sucking each other this lasted for about 3 years .

[Robin Black]

At around 10 or 11 my brother and I started "doing that stuff", as we used to call it, to each other. It started off as looking and touching, but before long it included tonguing each other's anuses and sucking each other. A neighbor friend our same age joined us about that time, and we would all go into our tree house or "fort" in the woods and one would watch while the other two sucked or tongued each other. It wasn't too long after that the neighbor friend got me to lay on my stomach and spread my legs and he mounted and fucked me. It was not uncomfortable, because our dicks were still pretty small, even when they were erect. After only a few minutes, he climaxed, but there was nothing deposited. After that, my brother and I would sneak into each other's beds after our folks were asleep and take turns fucking each other.

[pole_smoker]

This thread is creepy, disgusting, and fucked up. Who the fuck sexually abuses anyone including their relative? http://rs570.pbsrc.com/albums/ss143/Lillith26/3f774c6e.gif~c200

[joeeileen]

I was about 13 my brother was 11. We started sucking each other a few times a day for about a year. He made me cum for the first time and it was sooo hot. I miss it just about every damn day.

[12voltyV2.0]

I really don't see what would be wrong with brothers having "incestuous sex" with one another or sisters doing so with one another for that matter because the legal rules regarding siblings having sexual relations was more about trying to prevent pregnancies, which with brothers and sisters, doing so lead to babies with all sorts of mental and other health issues.

I didn't have a brother, but I dare say, should I have had one, especially an older one that would want me to suck him, he suck me and he fuck me--I would have not resisted and let him--probably greatly enjoying doing so. Kind of makes me wished I had had a brother and we had done that sort of thing.

I did have two male cousins, but was never close to them--they were jerks so it was never an issue--I kept my distance from them as it was for other reasons and they from me--which was fine by me.

I also never did have any older male relative that made any moves on me--I would have been creeped out by them had any of them done so since they assholes too.

Now---from reading and talking to others who did have such experiences from older male relatives or close family friends--I kind of wished that I had had someone like that in my life and such a relationship did take place.

Kinda feel "cheated" that things didn't work out that way....:tongue:

[borntosuckcock]

I caught my younger brother jacking off when he was 9 and I was 10. I'd already been sucking older men off for a couple of years and I always enjoyed sucking their cocks and especially their cum. My brother had no idea of what I had been doing. Anyway, when I saw his hard little cock, I knew I want to suck it. He was mad and embarrassed that I had caught him, but I said it was okay and started to stroke his cock, at first he wanted me to stop, but then I got down on my knees and started to suck his cock. He came with with a bang, his whole body shook, but he didn't cum, too young. We didn't say a word to each other, I just got up and walked out of the bathroom. We shared a bedroom, so we could here each other jacking off in bed. About 4 weeks later, he whispered from his bottom bunk and asked if I would suck him again. I said sure, but that he would have to suck me first. He said okay, but was worried I would pee in his mouth, explained that I could pee when my cock was hard, so he gradually started to suck my cock, then he really got in to it. It was good, but not great, I always enjoyed sucking more than being sucked. We did this a couple of times and then we lost interest. I told him sucking older men was much better and how they would cum and how great it was to get one of them off. He kept asking me who the older men were and I told him many of the men were guys I met at the public showers. He kept asking and asking, so I introduced him to an older man that I sucked on a regular basis. I'd asked the older guy if he was okay with my younger brother sucking him and he said okay. I assured him that my brother wouldn't tell anyone. My brother and I met up with the guy, had my brother get in the front seat and I got in the back. The older man drove to a secluded spot and parked. He asked my brother if he was ready to suck his cock and my brother said yes. He undid his buckle, unzipped his pants, slid his pants down and leaned his seat back. I had a great view from the back seat and had slid my pants down and was jacking off. He said my brother should get started put my brothers hand on his hug e cock. My brother was shocked about how big his cock was, he'd never seen an older mans hard cock before. He jacked the guy for a few minutes and then the guy said for him to suck it. He leaned over and started to suck the head of the guys cock, eventually going deeper with his mouth. I was so turned on watching my brother suck his coc, I came. Not long after that the guy came and shot his load into my brothers mouth, he held my brothers head down and told him to swallow. I had already told my brother how good cum tasted, so he didn't resist. My brother used to meet up with the same guy for about a year and would suck him off and swallow his cum. My brother and I never played with each other much after that, but we both kept sucking older guys until he was 13 and discovered girls. I discovered girls and loved pussy, but I never stopped liking to suck older men off.

[larrywilldo]

It started when my brother was 14 and I was 12. The first time, I woke up with him in my bed and he was rubbing his big cock against my leg. I got immediately hard when I woke up. He was humping my leg slowly and he had his hand on my cock through my tight white underwear. He knew I was excited as I woke as my cock got rock hard.

I whispered to me, "take off your underwear." I froze. He said it again and snapped the waist band of my underwear...... giving me an indicator that I should get them off.

I started to lift my butt to pull them off and he immediately grabbed the waist band and pulled them off of me. I was now naked in bed with him being naked. He moved down so that his face was in line with my cock and started jacking my cock and put it in his mouth. He sucked me for all but a minute or two and then came up to me face to face with his dick pushing against me and took my hand and put it on his cock and told me to jack it. It was so big and hot. His cock and yours are very similar in size and for a 12 year old boy.... that is a giant sized dick. He started fucking my hand as I jacked him and he whispered for me to suck it. I froze. I didn't move. He moved around so that his face was again at my cock level but this time his dick was close to my face.

He started sucking my dick. I was smaller, as my cock did not have hair and it was still a pre teen dick, as I matured later on. He would take my whole cock into his mouth with relative ease. As he was sucking me.... he reached down and pumped his dick at my face and whispered again.... "suck me." I barely got to do much sucking on his cock and then quit. I just didn't know if I wanted to do it or not. He turned around so we were face to face again and told me to turn around.

He pushed his cock between my legs and started fucking between my thighs. I could tell he really liked doing that as through the years we fucked around like this.... he would fuck me through my legs and I could feel that man sized dick push against my balls and even come out the other side a bit.

Through out the time we played, he never climaxed in my mouth. He would always cup his cock and shoot his cum into his hand. The first time he fucked me like that.... again through my legs and not in my ass, he didn't cum on me. He cupped his hand over the top of his cock head and caught the cum. But the second time and every time after that, he would shoot his cum all over my balls or thighs. He would be jacking my cock as he fucked my thighs. I always liked that and often times, I would cum before he did, but I didn't shoot any cum. I didn't start shooting cum a couple of years after we started doing this.

We didn't do it very often in the house, but when we camped out, he and I would share a pup tent and I just knew he would be there to have me suck his dick or fuck me. I enjoyed it. At first, I was ashamed and felt guilty about doing it but I would always be ready to do it when he came to do it.

When he was 16 or 17, he got a regular girl friend and we never did do anything again. Over the years, I blocked it out and never thought much about it. But those feelings came back when I did a MMF threesome with a couple from Midland Texas.

[pole_smoker]

I really don't see what would be wrong with brothers having "incestuous sex" with one another or sisters doing so with one another for that matter because the legal rules regarding siblings having sexual relations was more about trying to prevent pregnancies, which with brothers and sisters, doing so lead to babies with all sorts of mental and other health issues.

I didn't have a brother, but I dare say, should I have had one, especially an older one that would want me to suck him, he suck me and he fuck me--I would have not resisted and let him--probably greatly enjoying doing so. Kind of makes me wished I had had a brother and we had done that sort of thing.

I did have two male cousins, but was never close to them--they were jerks so it was never an issue--I kept my distance from them as it was for other reasons and they from me--which was fine by me.

I also never did have any older male relative that made any moves on me--I would have been creeped out by them had any of them done so since they assholes too.

Now---from reading and talking to others who did have such experiences from older male relatives or close family friends--I kind of wished that I had had someone like that in my life and such a relationship did take place.

Kinda feel "cheated" that things didn't work out that way....:tongue:
I'm not surprised you don't understand what's wrong with incest and sexual abuse like this. You're fucked up Mike Garrity, and getting therapy should be the least of your issues. I feel bad for anyone who has ever had the extremely unfortunate experience of having sex with you or attempting any sort of relationship with you Michael Garrity. :rolleyes: http://rs570.pbsrc.com/albums/ss143/Lillith26/3f774c6e.gif~c200

[cornholejoe]

This thread is creepy, disgusting, and fucked up. Who the fuck sexually abuses anyone including their relative? http://rs570.pbsrc.com/albums/ss143/Lillith26/3f774c6e.gif~c200
well pole you just have to put your 2 cents in dont you

[larrywilldo]

I'm not surprised you don't understand what's wrong with incest and sexual abuse like this. You're fucked up Mike Garrity, and getting therapy should be the least of your issues. I feel bad for anyone who has ever had the extremely unfortunate experience of having sex with you or attempting any sort of relationship with you Michael Garrity. :rolleyes: http://rs570.pbsrc.com/albums/ss143/Lillith26/3f774c6e.gif~c200

You are the worst judgemental piece of shit I have ever read on any thread on any forum. It is too bad this forum doesn't have an active moderator, as your ass should be banned.

[pole_smoker]

You are the worst judgemental piece of shit I have ever read on any thread on any forum. It is too bad this forum doesn't have an active moderator, as your ass should be banned.

LMAO says you the angry guy that has PTSD since he was raped and sexually abused by his creepy brother. Get helo, you need a lot of it. Or continúe to do nothing but have total melt downs and put other people down while you are one of many pedo apologists on this site who condone this sick fucked up stuff. :rolleyes: Or

[bikurinpa]

Why dont every one just add him to the ignore list! problem solved.

[DMercator]

I have to say, from where I sit, these stories are pretty hot.

[T.Edding]

I'm sitting in about the same place as DMercator, these stories are smoking hot and a total turn on.

[TerrorTwilight]

You are the worst judgemental piece of shit I have ever read on any thread on any forum. It is too bad this forum doesn't have an active moderator, as your ass should be banned.

Luckily the site does have an 'ignore list' though. I 'ignored' him a long time ago. It's a shame he hasn't been banned though.

[chub-bi]

I put him on ignore quite a while back, definitely makes the forum more enjoyable.
I wonder how much Drews brother wants for the site, I' d love to buy it and IP ban
his ass.

[larrywilldo]

I put him on ignore quite a while back, definitely makes the forum more enjoyable.
I wonder how much Drews brother wants for the site, I' d love to buy it and IP ban
his ass.

I put him on ignore awhile back, but once in awhile, when I see his posts, I will click on it to get a full understanding why I did put him on ignore.

He must be related to Donald Trump.

[biguy1940]

You are the worst judgemental piece of shit I have ever read on any thread on any forum. It is too bad this forum doesn't have an active moderator, as your ass should be banned.
not only is he the most judgemental asshole on here but alsothe most pathetic excuse for a humanbeingevertofoulthesepageswithhislackofhumanit y

[pole_smoker]

not only is he the most judgemental asshole on here but alsothe most pathetic excuse for a humanbeingevertofoulthesepageswithhislackofhumanit y
LMAO, so it's called a "lack of humanitiy" to call incest and sexual abuse of children sick and fucked up? I'm not surprised you believe this. :rolleyes:

[marine20]

wow , i just used the ignore list for that main asshole troll , and it works beautiful !

[larrywilldo]

wow , i just used the ignore list for that main asshole troll , and it works beautiful !

Yea, you can still click on the link if you wish to read that foul smelling piece of shit for brains speak his mind.

[elian]

I have seen similar stories of people's first sexual experiences in a lot of different online forums. I think if the participants are all around the same age and no one partner has clear authority to compel the others to do something against their will then people are curious and it's probably a part of typical human development.

I grew up before "the internet" they had "health class" but no adult was really going to talk about what sex truly involved. The only way I learned was being as horny as my peers..

There are some of us who were forced into awkward, uncomfortable situations. If you are still experiencing confusion because of that here is a good resource for men: http://1in6.org and for women: https://www.womenhelpingwomen.org

In addition to discussion of sexual topics we used to have conversations about spirituality, politics, religion, relationships and for the most part a good comradery on the site but those folks all decided it wasn't worth their time anymore. Fetish conversations are the only thing left and now apparently he can't let those alone either.

If the most important thing you have to do with your life for the last five years is annoy a bunch of people on a discussion forum then I feel sorry for you. Wherever he is I hope Drew is laughing his ass off.

[pole_smoker]

I have seen similar stories of people's first sexual experiences in a lot of different online forums. I think if the participants are all around the same age and no one partner has clear authority to compel the others to do something against their will then people are curious and it's probably a part of typical human development.

I grew up before "the internet" they had "health class" but no adult was really going to talk about what sex truly involved. The only way I learned was being as horny as my peers..

There are some of us who were forced into awkward, uncomfortable situations. If you are still experiencing confusion because of that here is a good resource for men: http://1in6.org and for women: https://www.womenhelpingwomen.org

In addition to discussion of sexual topics we used to have conversations about spirituality, politics, religion, relationships and for the most part a good comradery on the site but those folks all decided it wasn't worth their time anymore. Fetish conversations are the only thing left and now apparently he can't let those alone either.

If the most important thing you have to do with your life for the last five years is annoy a bunch of people on a discussion forum then I feel sorry for you. Wherever he is I hope Drew is laughing his ass off.
No it's not 'normal' for siblings or family members to have sex with each other.


That's called incest and sexual abuse, as it's done without consent and involves coercion. It is NOT a sexual fetish, kink, etc. Incest and sexual abuse are traumatic to whoever is the victim of them.


A 2006 study showed a large portion of adults who experienced sibling incest abuse have "distorted" or "disturbed" beliefs (such as that the act was "normal") both about their own experience and the subject of sexual abuse in general.


Sibling abusive incest is most prevalent in families where one or both parents are often absent or emotionally unavailable, with the abusive siblings using incest as a way to assert their power over a weaker sibling. Absence of the father in particular has been found to be a significant element of most cases of sexual abuse of children by a brother. The damaging effects on both childhood development and adult symptoms resulting from sibling–sibling sexual abuse are similar to the effects of parent–child incest and sexual abuse, including substance abuse, depression, suicidality, and eating disorders.

Yes it's true that the creepy pedos here. Drew gave up on this site, as he did ban people who would write about incest and sexual abuse here or who are pedos. Drew is doing well but just uses it as a supplement for his income with revenue from the ads and people joining the porn site. No he did not kill himself as one or two trolls here claimed he did.

[elian]

I appreciate your lucid and well thought out response rather than just the one liners.

I'm not denying that sexual abuse occurs, I was abused and for years I struggled with self esteem issues. I'm not in any way trying to condone someone being exploited or forced to do something against their will. I guess the problem is that these are powerful feelings that are easy to exploit and it's a sensitive topic.

Maybe my perception is skewed but I still think curious children play doctor with each other and horny teenagers who have more hormones than wisdom experiment with each other. Even straight people sometimes try sucking cock, but most decide they don't like it.. Masters and Johnson, Kinsey have done studies about it.

Everybody has to have a first time. I wish my own first experience would have been with someone besides an asshole but life is what it is. I 've had a lot of good friends and mentors who -weren't- abusive and I control my own destiny..

It's a topic that makes me uncomfortable but I am writing because there is value in realizing that you aren't alone. If society wouldn't make the whole idea of sex taboo to start with maybe people who are really hurting wouldn't feel ashamed or embarrassed to ask for help.

[larrywilldo]

I appreciate your lucid and well thought out response rather than just the one liners.

I'm not denying that sexual abuse occurs, I was abused and for years I struggled with self esteem issues. I'm not in any way trying to condone someone being exploited or forced to do something against their will. I guess the problem is that these are powerful feelings that are easy to exploit and it's a sensitive topic.

Maybe my perception is skewed but I still think curious children play doctor with each other and horny teenagers who have more hormones than wisdom experiment with each other. Even straight people sometimes try sucking cock, but most decide they don't like it.. Masters and Johnson, Kinsey have done studies about it.

Everybody has to have a first time. I wish my own first experience would have been with someone besides an asshole but life is what it is. I 've had a lot of good friends and mentors who -weren't- abusive and I control my own destiny..

It's a topic that makes me uncomfortable but I am writing because there is value in realizing that you aren't alone. If society wouldn't make the whole idea of sex taboo to start with maybe people who are really hurting wouldn't feel ashamed or embarrassed to ask for help.

I went to counseling on quite a few issues in my early 30's, some of which related to my guilt and shame associated with doing this with my brother when we were in our early teens. The therapist was very clear on this, and that if the age of the two was less than two years apart, then it was merely exploring one's sexual thoughts with another and it did not constituent abuse unless one was forced into it.

I am not going to read (immediately put writer on ignore) if one is going to use guilt and shame to harass fellow board members on any variant of sexual exploring. Fuck em. This is a forum for expressing sexual activity between same sex members. Some people can't "come out" due to the harm it can or will cause others in their relationship. This forum is not about judging others and I have rejected Polesmoker's judgement of others in the past. His last post here made some sense. I suggest that all people refrain from judging others in print on this forum. It is hurtful and disrespectful. No one here is posting to hear some judgement filled with hate, guilt and shame.

I wish this forum had an active moderator. Some of these things would be cleared up with a few banned IP numbers.

[pole_smoker]

I went to counseling on quite a few issues in my early 30's, some of which related to my guilt and shame associated with doing this with my brother when we were in our early teens. The therapist was very clear on this, and that if the age of the two was less than two years apart, then it was merely exploring one's sexual thoughts with another and it did not constituent abuse unless one was forced into it.

I am not going to read (immediately put writer on ignore) if one is going to use guilt and shame to harass fellow board members on any variant of sexual exploring. Fuck em. This is a forum for expressing sexual activity between same sex members. Some people can't "come out" due to the harm it can or will cause others in their relationship. This forum is not about judging others and I have rejected Polesmoker's judgement of others in the past. His last post here made some sense. I suggest that all people refrain from judging others in print on this forum. It is hurtful and disrespectful. No one here is posting to hear some judgement filled with hate, guilt and shame.

I wish this forum had an active moderator. Some of these things would be cleared up with a few banned IP numbers.
Your so called "counselor" is full of shit. You were sexually abused by your brother and it's incest, and it's not "exploring sexuality" or whatever BS the wannabe quack counselor claimed. :rolleyes: A lot has changed in the decades since you saw your quack of a counselor or therapist, and what you described happening to you by your sick and fucked up brother is sexual abuse even if you are trying to claim it is not as you were forced and coerced into being sexually abused. Get even more help.

[elian]

Pole, do you know how many stories I've read about people's first time experiences that have some element of "my brother" or "my sister and her friend" ? .. technically you might be correct but it does happen, a lot of times because teens are a) horny or b) curious and those are the people they have access to or trust in a private setting. It happens to more people than you'd think. I don't disagree that there are circumstances where it could be harmful, especially if it's someone that a child relies on for safety and security.

Knowing what I know now, it's hard for me to imagine ever taking advantage of the trust of anyone, let alone a child but that's through adult eyes. Back when I was a teen I was horny enough to have fantasies about sucking off the entire boys locker room. I don't consider it creepy, back then I was 14 years old just like the rest of the 14-16 year olds in there.

Some folks have positive experiences with their peers and hey, that's great..I'm glad your first sexual experiences could be pleasurable ones. Each one of us is as worthy of love and respect as any other part of creation.

When I was born I just wanted to love people, regardless of what is between their legs. Some people took advantage of that, other people told me it was wrong. It's been hell, it's been fun, with experience comes wisdom; I still want to love people and I wouldn't trade who I have become for anything else in the world. I learned the concept of love from Jesus Christ, but I learned forgiveness from the Buddhist concept of lovingkindness. Studying it gave me just enough of a shift in perspective to break the cycle of self loathing I felt about loving other men.

We are humans, we are going to make mistakes, EVERYONE is going to make mistakes no matter how perfect you think they are, but learning is what being human is all about. Instead of shaming ourselves and seeing (ourselves and) others as flawed, if you can, think of them as full of potential. We all have good qualities. It takes a leap of faith to trust that all of us have those abilities and will use them but it is a much better way to see the world. Forgiving someone doesn't justify the wrong, it allows people to heal and move on rather than dwell in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aY2JyqyNek also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31QNiwCL77M

Anyway, that's as much as I want to say on the subject, thanks for putting up with me.

[tenni]

Elain
I think that you had it correct several posts back when you referred to harm. Here is an interesting article examining sibling sex acts. The main difference is that the article refers to brother and sister rather than same gender siblings. It raises the question as to whether homophobia is in play when it is same gender. Same gender sex is not a factor anyway for passing on genetic defects. I think that there is a social taboo for m/f sex and m/m siblings. Brother sex may just be a point of convenience for horny brothers and not romantic love affection in many incidents.

"What’s occurring here is inflating outrage – I don’t think there is such a thing as “moral” outrage – and personal disgust at an act, which has not harmed anybody else, to the point of having a lady’s life threatened for no good reason. Whatever the political situation, if we respect an adult’s right to engage freely in sexual acts with other consenting adults, it’s not clear why we draw a line based on genetics. "

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/is-incest-wrong

[larrywilldo]

I am so grateful that he is perfect and can judge others from 3500 miles away. I would prefer that he live across the fucking pond, in a country that bans the internet so that I wouldn't have to see his judgemental crap on here.

If he was my neighbor, I would beat the fuck out of this Donald Trump loving piece of shit. All of that rage from being abused :) would be expressed on him. He might like that kind of treatment, the way he talks, he probably has had the shit beat out of him.

[pole_smoker]

Despite the attempts of Tenni, Elian, and Larrywilldo to normalize incest and child sexual abuse, this is not something that should be condoned or argued that incest even between same sex siblings is "normal", "fine", "healthy", "common", "kids/teens being horny/curious/exploratory", etc.


Incest and sexual abuse of children is never right even if the above people on this site want to argue that it is, that it's "normal", or that it's "common".


The effects of incest are devastating, traumatic, and profound. Most victims of child incest suffer from guilt, shame and post traumatic stress disorder which can trigger thoughts and feelings that transport the victim back to the abuse even later on in life.


Some of the social maladjustments arising from incest are: alcoholism and/or drug addiction, self-injury, prostitution, promiscuity, PTSD, sexual dysfunction, and suicide.

Nope, I've never been abused. I don't "love" Donald Trump; but he's a far better President than Obama ever was, and there was no way I could have voted for Hillary so neither of us voted for her. I voted for Gary Johnson and my husband voted for Jill Stein. But the troll larrywilldo is posting non-sequiturs that have nothing to do with this topic and only show how fucked up he is from having incest happen to him by his brother. :rolleyes:

[a2smith09]

Elian,

thanks for your thoughtful posts. I am one of those who were able to consensually explore sex in a meaningful way both same sex and opposite sex. My first male sex partner was one of my very best friends and we explored a lot. We are still friends and lovers 40 years later. My first female sex partner was a cousin. We also did a lot of exploring together. I'm fortunate that mine wasn't an asshole. Sorry yours was. By the time I ran into my first asshole I was big enough to pitch him
out a window.

[elian]

40 years? Wow, that's pretty cool :)

Sure, it would have been a lot more comforting to live in a world of absolutes, because of my sexuality I was forced to deal with ambiguity whether I wanted it or not. Some people would find it uncomfortable but it does have advantages - like being able to see both sides of an argument. I was always a little different than most boys, the experiences I had just brought that to the surface. Once I stopped trying to measure my own sense of self worth based on acceptance from other people things became a lot easier.

Everyone has different experiences and is entitled to their own opinion. Without the contrast we wouldn't be able to discern, we wouldn't know how to choose how we want to live our lives.

[cslutt]

I grew up with a twin brother, a horny dad with two brothers and a super horny father (my grandpa). Grandpa's wife died from seizures when young and he was on the farm and never remarried. He and his 3 boys 'took care of each other' and had a love for women's lingerie, too, dressing up together. con't

[carolinabi]

I'm not surprised you don't understand what's wrong with incest and sexual abuse like this. You're fucked up Mike Garrity, and getting therapy should be the least of your issues. I feel bad for anyone who has ever had the extremely unfortunate experience of having sex with you or attempting any sort of relationship with you Michael Garrity. :rolleyes: http://rs570.pbsrc.com/albums/ss143/Lillith26/3f774c6e.gif~c200


LMAO says you the angry guy that has PTSD since he was raped and sexually abused by his creepy brother. Get helo, you need a lot of it. Or continúe to do nothing but have total melt downs and put other people down while you are one of many pedo apologists on this site who condone this sick fucked up stuff. :rolleyes: Or


No it's not 'normal' for siblings or family members to have sex with each other.


That's called incest and sexual abuse, as it's done without consent and involves coercion. It is NOT a sexual fetish, kink, etc. Incest and sexual abuse are traumatic to whoever is the victim of them.


A 2006 study showed a large portion of adults who experienced sibling incest abuse have "distorted" or "disturbed" beliefs (such as that the act was "normal") both about their own experience and the subject of sexual abuse in general.


Sibling abusive incest is most prevalent in families where one or both parents are often absent or emotionally unavailable, with the abusive siblings using incest as a way to assert their power over a weaker sibling. Absence of the father in particular has been found to be a significant element of most cases of sexual abuse of children by a brother. The damaging effects on both childhood development and adult symptoms resulting from sibling–sibling sexual abuse are similar to the effects of parent–child incest and sexual abuse, including substance abuse, depression, suicidality, and eating disorders.

Yes it's true that the creepy pedos here. Drew gave up on this site, as he did ban people who would write about incest and sexual abuse here or who are pedos. Drew is doing well but just uses it as a supplement for his income with revenue from the ads and people joining the porn site. No he did not kill himself as one or two trolls here claimed he did.


Your so called "counselor" is full of shit. You were sexually abused by your brother and it's incest, and it's not "exploring sexuality" or whatever BS the wannabe quack counselor claimed. :rolleyes: A lot has changed in the decades since you saw your quack of a counselor or therapist, and what you described happening to you by your sick and fucked up brother is sexual abuse even if you are trying to claim it is not as you were forced and coerced into being sexually abused. Get even more help.


Despite the attempts of Tenni, Elian, and Larrywilldo to normalize incest and child sexual abuse, this is not something that should be condoned or argued that incest even between same sex siblings is "normal", "fine", "healthy", "common", "kids/teens being horny/curious/exploratory", etc.


Incest and sexual abuse of children is never right even if the above people on this site want to argue that it is, that it's "normal", or that it's "common".


The effects of incest are devastating, traumatic, and profound. Most victims of child incest suffer from guilt, shame and post traumatic stress disorder which can trigger thoughts and feelings that transport the victim back to the abuse even later on in life.


Some of the social maladjustments arising from incest are: alcoholism and/or drug addiction, self-injury, prostitution, promiscuity, PTSD, sexual dysfunction, and suicide.

Nope, I've never been abused. I don't "love" Donald Trump; but he's a far better President than Obama ever was, and there was no way I could have voted for Hillary so neither of us voted for her. I voted for Gary Johnson and my husband voted for Jill Stein. But the troll larrywilldo is posting non-sequiturs that have nothing to do with this topic and only show how fucked up he is from having incest happen to him by his brother. :rolleyes:

i quote him because whatever his method of delivery he is correct, it's sexual abuse, especially at those young ages. i noticed that a few of those "stories" included the word "forced" in them, and you don't see something forced on a child as abuse?

while pole_smoker can be abrasive, he's like the dad that calls out the errant child, you hate him because he tells you the truths you don't want to hear...

[carolinabi]

I grew up with a twin brother, a horny dad with two brothers and a super horny father (my grandpa). Grandpa's wife died from seizures when young and he was on the farm and never remarried. He and his 3 boys 'took care of each other' and had a love for women's lingerie, too, dressing up together. con't

and you don't see this as twisted and sick?

[monaohio]

I wish I had a brother that wanted to get sucked I would have sucked him in a heart beat

[friskyous]

Didn't have a brother but did have a cousin from out west who visited once a year. We would suck and stroke each other, all before either of us could cum.. he taught me to masturbate. Died off in our preteens though and we just never talked about it.

[elian]

At the risk of continuing this echo chamber I'll reiterate again that I never said I was 100% okay with it, but that it does happen, a lot more than you'd think. I had some very specific conditions that I would be willing to forgive because I think just like every other part of identity teens develop a sexual identity too.

There are some things that I won't forgive, like any adult in a position of authority who violates the trust of a child, an ADULT should know better. A child who is looking for validation and love, attention and affection should not have to prove themselves through what they can do with their bodies. It breaks my heart every time I read a story like that. There are a lot of people STILL looking to be loved for more than what is between their legs, even as adults.

For the better part of my life all I knew was that if "being a man" meant being an insecure, drunk, abusive asshole that I wanted to be as far away from that as possible..to the point of thinking I'd rather be female growing up. It took a long time and a lot of help from real men to overcome that, to learn to say no and to rebuild some boundaries. The memories are still painful, and so I think I'm done talking about this.

Of course what is a -real- man? None of us can be knights in shining armor forever, even knights have to take off their armor occasionally and there are usually scars underneath. I guess you just know it when you feel it, someone who is able to accept their own flaws, someone who builds other people up rather than cutting them down? Someone who despite great adversity does their best to live up to their responsibilities and love themselves and others anyway..

I do get the whole fetish idea, for years I was looking for someone to validate who I was, but that never happens. You could be waiting a long time for someone who is just as vulnerable as you to tell you that you are "good" or "sexy" or "handsome" ? If you are looking for someone ELSE to validate YOU as a person you'll never be happy. You need to accept that you are as worthy as anyone else, with the same rights and responsibilities; build a relationship on that.

I was toying with the idea of writing horny instead of worthy just because I think adults get too hung up on talking about sex, but whatever, you get the point. People always seem to want power but then once they get it they don't have any idea what to do with it..unless of course you're a megalomaniac

[bw299]

I think the $50 question here is...when does sex play between siblings cross the line between curious exploration and innocent play and sexually deviate conduct?

Obviously sex is never ok between adults and juveniles. In most states, juveniles can't legally consent to sex with an adult. And forced sex is never ok.

But what about a couple of adolescents who consentually act on their sexual curiosity, enjoy what they do, and continue their behavoir? Sexual exploration between adolescents, including siblings, is quite common.

What about the prudish, puritanical views on sex that American society holds? Much of the rest of the world doesn't hold those same views.

[pole_smoker]

I think the $50 question here is...when does sex play between siblings cross the line between curious exploration and innocent play and sexually deviate conduct?

Obviously sex is never ok between adults and juveniles. In most states, juveniles can't legally consent to sex with an adult. And forced sex is never ok.

But what about a couple of adolescents who consentually act on their sexual curiosity, enjoy what they do, and continue their behavoir? Sexual exploration between adolescents, including siblings, is quite common.

What about the prudish, puritanical views on sex that American society holds? Much of the rest of the world doesn't hold those same views.
It does not make someone a "prude' or "puritanical" to say that incest and sexual abuse between relatives even siblings is wrong. Mostly all other countries and cultures in the world even those outside of North America are against incest in any form and against sexual abuse of children/adolescents.

The people who argue that incest and sexual abuse of kids and teenagers is OK are akin to the sick NAMBLA people. :rolleyes:

[tenni]

I have to wonder what is wrong with brothers playing sexually with each other?
There were/are incest laws and societal rules based on genetic and offspring. Since two males ejaculating does not create any genetic birth defects what is wrong?

For me, it has to do with family relationships and this can get emotionally messy between brothers and sisters. I suppose similar emotional mind fields may exist with brothers too. There is an argument that familia love is different than sexual romantic love and this might impact the brothers' emotionally. I've read a fair bit of this thread and no one seems to be saying that it emotionally damaged them to have sex with their brother (I could have missed such a statement) I agree with bw299 on the issue of a great age gap and others who have removed dominance of one brother over the other.

[elian]

I assume we are talking about an age where most children are just starting to realize their own identity. Ideally a child would grow up with a healthy sense of boundaries and self esteem. If one person has more knowledge, experience or authority the potential for exploitation is there. We intentionally keep children naïve about sex, most are vulnerable and even if they think they know everything about it they still don't know what an adult knows (some adults aren't very smart either.) Children don't know the consequences and probably won't be prepared for the feelings that are involved, so yeah, you are playing with fire whether it's a sibling or not.

Having said that, everyone has a first time, because of the way our society treats sex as taboo, probably under less than ideal circumstances, I can hope that more of them are pleasurable but as they say "shit happens". I guess the important thing is if your first time was not a good experience hopefully you don't go around for the rest of your life thinking there's a noose around your neck. For a while I did, because my experience made me realize that I was just as attracted to men as I was women, the rest of society said that was wrong.

All people deserve love and respect.

By the way, you can and should teach children about sex at very young age but the conversation is about respect for self and others, not body parts.

If the NAMBLA people really cared about children as much as they say they do then they would just let children be children, it's hard enough to grow up as it is. It was confusing and frustrating as hell to be confronted with a whole gamut of adult emotions when I didn't even have a sense of my own identity yet.

And as passionately as I must feel about this because I can't stop writing I still think there is a difference between molestation and experimentation as kids.

[pole_smoker]

I have to wonder what is wrong with brothers playing sexually with each other?
There were/are incest laws and societal rules based on genetic and offspring. Since two males ejaculating does not create any genetic birth defects what is wrong?


Because it's sexual abuse-and also physical and emotional abuse you NAMBLA peanutbutter lover. :rolleyes:

[cbj4162]

My step brother and I have recently discovered we both love sucking dick and we want to play together someday.
We never did as teenagers mostly because we didn't live together and rarely saw each other.
I am very excited about it!!

Signed,
I can't wait!

[bw299]

Good times CBJ4162! I don't blame you; I would be oozing with anticipation:rolleyes: