Transgender Canadian Human Rghts' Legislation

[tenni]

Transgender Canadians and human-rights champions cheered Tuesday as the Liberal government introduced legislation that would make it against the law to discriminate on the basis of gender identity or expression.


The legislation would, if passed, make it illegal under the Canadian Human Rights Act to prevent someone from getting a job or to discriminate in the workplace on the basis of the gender they identify with or outwardly express.


It would also update the Criminal Code to extend hate speech laws to include gender identity and expression.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/news-video/video-liberals-introduce-transgender-rights-bill/article30058933/


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05/16/trudeau-transgender-canada-trans-human-rights_n_9999704.html

This may be a bumpy ride but will probably eventually be Canadian law.

[sysper]

hope it passes soon but not too hopefull for usa we can't even get civil rights right:disgust:

[12voltyV2.0]

If America would only follow suit---with both the Federal government and state governments doing something similar all over the nation to fully extend to GLBTQ people their full measure of "Essential Liberties" as Ben Franklin put it---by enacting legislation that prevents job discrimination, allowing GLBTQ people to adopt children should they so chose with them being able to do so based on things like if they have the appropriate financial ability to raise kids, not have any legal or other disqualifying issues--and the denial of such "rights" not made simply because of their gender identification and/or sexual orientation.

Instead in many of our states--we have legislatures and Congress filled with some very "conservative" tea party types who if they had their way, would not only continue to deny the right to work without being fired only because one is "gay", adopt kids and what have you---they would actually seek to make being anything but male/female married heterosexuality a crime punishable up to being sent to prison or even including the death penalty as some of the most extreme among this crowd have proposed.

[sysper]

fuckin assholes!
If America would only follow suit---with both the Federal government and state governments doing something similar all over the nation to fully extend to GLBTQ people their full measure of "Essential Liberties" as Ben Franklin put it---by enacting legislation that prevents job discrimination, allowing GLBTQ people to adopt children should they so chose with them being able to do so based on things like if they have the appropriate financial ability to raise kids, not have any legal or other disqualifying issues--and the denial of such "rights" not made simply because of their gender identification and/or sexual orientation.

Instead in many of our states--we have legislatures and Congress filled with some very "conservative" tea party types who if they had their way, would not only continue to deny the right to work without being fired only because one is "gay", adopt kids and what have you---they would actually seek to make being anything but male/female married heterosexuality a crime punishable up to being sent to prison or even including the death penalty as some of the most extreme among this crowd have proposed.

[tenni]

If you read the language styles of the Canadian politicians and compare it to these people getting upset about genders and washrooms, you see the jarring difference. As volitie wrote, the focus on human rights and equality seems to be missing when people in the US talk about transgender people. Violence towards transgender and whether that is acceptable doesn't seem to present in the US. Or can anyone explain the differences in the two countries approach.

That is not to write than Canada doesn't have bigots including our most recent regime of Conservatives. It was looking like human rights was no longer important to Canadians and we were approaching US style of bigotry and ignoring human rights as important.

[pole_smoker]

If America would only follow suit---with both the Federal government and state governments doing something similar all over the nation to fully extend to GLBTQ people their full measure of "Essential Liberties" as Ben Franklin put it---by enacting legislation that prevents job discrimination, allowing GLBTQ people to adopt children should they so chose with them being able to do so based on things like if they have the appropriate financial ability to raise kids, not have any legal or other disqualifying issues--and the denial of such "rights" not made simply because of their gender identification and/or sexual orientation.

Instead in many of our states--we have legislatures and Congress filled with some very "conservative" tea party types who if they had their way, would not only continue to deny the right to work without being fired only because one is "gay", adopt kids and what have you---they would actually seek to make being anything but male/female married heterosexuality a crime punishable up to being sent to prison or even including the death penalty as some of the most extreme among this crowd have proposed.


hope it passes soon but not too hopefull for usa we can't even get civil rights right

Trans people are the reason why ENDA (employment non-discrimination act) was not passed into law.

A lot of Trans people are extremely homophobic/biphobic and I remember when same sex marriage was legalized here in NY state that a lot of Trans people became extremely angry and protested and became bigoted towards gay and bisexual same sex couples. All while Trans people have been legally allowed to marry people of the opposite sex for decades and have done this.

When Don't ask Don't tell was repealed again Trans people and nutty Trans activists were bigoted towards bisexuals, and gay/lesbian people.

It all has to do with money. The trans community needs our LesBiGay dollars to push their agenda because, even within the LGBT community, they are all but a tiny minority. So the trans community will continue to use gays, bisexuals, and lesbians while in the same breath insulting us and undermining gay/bisexual issues because they need the infrastructure and money gay/bisexual orgs and gay/bisexual activists provide. The question is, how long will gay and bisexual people continue to allow ourselves themselves to be used and abused by a group of people that actively hate us?

I think the trans insistence that everyone plays along with their make believe or be labelled a bigot is appalling. Their demands that women and girls have to give up safety and privacy is worrying. Trans peoples' imposition of outdated gender stereotypes is regressive. Their advocacy of drugging and socially conditioning children is abusive.

We should have dropped the T decades ago, or never allowed them to be grouped in with LGB people.

[pole_smoker]

So it turns out that even trans people themselves agree they have little in common with LGBs

The following graph was extracted from a 2013 Pew Center study on LGBT people. The study is nationally representative. The graph is based on a question which asked LGB people how much they feel they have in common with people from other parts of the community. The numbers are based on those who said "a lot" or "some". People who responded "a little" or "nothing" were not included.

https://datalounge-images.s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/d556c5e1a95fc3e8a6d974fc9753ba20-h250@1x.jpg

A few observations about the results:
1) All LGB groups felt they had more in common with each other than with trans people.
2) Despite the trans obsession with painting gay men as their tormentors and oppressors, gay men were the most likely of LGB groups to say they have a lot or some in common with them.
3) Despite the trans campaign to paint themselves and bi people as brotherly underdogs fighting a gay-lesbian axis of power and prejudice, bi people, male and female, were the most likely to say they have little to nothing in common with trans people. In fact, a plurality of bi women (39%) and a majority of bi men (51%) said they felt NOTHING in common with them.
4) Trans results were not displayed because their sample size was too small for the results to be reliable. That is, even within the LGBT community, trans people are but a tiny minority. However, PRC placed the following footnote in their report:
The number of transgender adults included in the sample is too small for quantitative analysis. Nevertheless, the pattern of responses to this question among transgender adults suggests that they may not appear to perceive a great deal of commonality with lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals.

I've noticed that trans activists like to make fun of most LGB issues, such as marriage equality, as being bourgeois and irrelevant to the lives of LGB/T people who matter most. Clearly, they don't feel much connection with them. However, when people start mumbling "DROP THE T", they rush to say that LGB and T people have so much in common, that "our" enemy is the same, namely cisheteronormativity/The Patriarchy (LMAO riiiiiight :rolleyes:). Based on the survey, however, it seems these activists are either disconnected from the trans mainstream, which doesn't perceive much of a link between gender identity and sexual orientation, or embellishing their views so as to continuing to justify their presence in gay and bisexual groups.

[sysper]

now that u mention it.....i seem to remember caitlin jenner saying she doesn't support gay marriage. which was disappointing & i thought it was hypocritical. wasn't she dating a girl too? whatever my sexual orientation i still support trans people just hope they are as openminded as they are asking other people to be.