What is it with guys and raunch?

[Tuffnuggies]

Now I can understand wanting to suck off or fuck a sweaty guy. Some people like that musky scent. But I come across several local guys that are really into rimming a dirty ass. Aside from personal preference, I'm always self concious enough to make sure I'm squeaky clean before anyone tounges my hole. But to me, if a guy is quick to rim a stranger's dirty ass, that is a fastrack to Hepitits. Not to mention disgusting.
Am I being too picky?

[pole_smoker]

Now I can understand wanting to suck off or fuck a sweaty guy. Some people like that musky scent. But I come across several local guys that are really into rimming a dirty ass. Aside from personal preference, I'm always self concious enough to make sure I'm squeaky clean before anyone tounges my hole. But to me, if a guy is quick to rim a stranger's dirty ass, that is a fastrack to Hepitits. Not to mention disgusting. Am I being too picky? ALL ass is dirty. It does not matter if it's a woman or a man, or how much the person washes with soap, water, or even puts water up their ass in an enema there's no way to make someone's asshole "clean", and rimming is not good to do, not to mention it's disgusting. Neither my husband or I have ever licked anyone's assholes and we never will. I was rimmed once and found it to be nasty.

[cornholejoe]

ALL ass is dirty. It does not matter if it's a woman or a man, or how much the person washes with soap, water, or even puts water up their ass in an enema there's no way to make someone's asshole "clean", and rimming is not good to do, not to mention it's disgusting. Neither my husband or I have ever licked anyone's assholes and we never will. I was rimmed once and found it to be nasty. do you and your husband even have sex

[pole_smoker]

do you and your husband even have sex Yes as a matter of fact we do, multiple times daily. We just happen not to do rimming at all, as it's not required.

[cornholejoe]

Yes as a matter of fact we do, multiple times daily. We just happen not to do rimming at all, as it's not required.

you and him do any 69ing

[sysper]

i don't think ur not being picky. it's not really wrong but it sure sounds disgusting! i'm not sure i would wanna be with anyone who would be willing to do that to me.

[void()]

May want to explore what Hepatitis (http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/digestive-diseases-hepatitis-b) is a little more (http://www.med.nyu.edu/sti/content21df.html?cid=3&ccid=65). Not saying I
particularly enjoy being rimmed, or rimming. Saying it's better to
use knowledge to allay fear than to run around wanton as a
headless flopping chicken.

Hepatitis virus like the H.I.V virus can and are killed by digestive
fluids if ingestion is the way the vector enters the body. If you use
condoms during the actual sexual act of penis to anus penetration,
you've naught to fear. But of course some fucking asshole wants to push
the fucking propaganda of stupidity so we all ought run for our lives at
their call. Fuck that.

What is right for you, is right for you. What is right for you, may not
be right for me. What is right for me may not be right for you. If you
are bisexual, gay and it feels right for you, chances are it is. Don't
worry about the assholes fucking with you. They're likely jealous and
afraid because their religion told them so.

A life not meeting your standards for perfection does not equate as
negative. That means people live their lives accordingly to what they
feel is right for themselves. They need not ask anyone's fucking
permission.

They need not to match up with anyone fucking else's defenition of
what the 'good' or proper life is, someone else's definition. They
cannot offer up facts and in fact, facts often enough cut their
argument to fucking ribbons, so they use fear, or try to. Fuck that.

No apologies. I'm fucking tired of stupidity.

[Hypersexual11]

I see this desire posted in ads now and then as well. I have also read several erotic stories about this. So it's not completely in left field. I think it's a good idea to look to a place like this for information but unfortunately, as was stated above, there isn't a lot of information here, plenty of opinions. In regards to sex, whatever you want to do that satisfies you, satisfies your partner or is just a fun kink, do it. If you are wondering about the health issues, don't look here.
I had a friend get hep 2 when he was in Mexico. He said it was from eating some Mexican kids ass. This was pretty foreign to him though. I assume if one is ingesting small amounts of shit on a semi regular basis, their immune system has adapted to it if they are still healthy.

[KnkyHim]

To the main point:

You can find any number of people into anything and everything you can imagine (and many, many things you would never imagine or want to imagine). The wonderful thing about sexuality (horrifying for some) is that there is an endless variety of things that turn on a subset of guys -- and gals. Some people are always repulsed by some other people's preferences. Sometimes that "some" is a majority of people. Sometimes the "majority" is on a vocal majority, rather than an actual majority. Sometimes a majority of the vocal majority really don't feel the way they say they do; they only say it because they don't want anyone to think they approve of the activity. They may be right; they may be wrong. But usually, it's neither one. It's simply psychology, society, and preference.

[void()]

I neither condone, nor condemn rimming. There are very few sex acts I do take issue over.

What I was taking issue over in this case was what to me seemed an obvious propaganda attack. This
attack, as I saw it, seemed to desire pushing a lot of unwarranted and unmerited fear about rimming. Further,
such an attack seems apt to demonize any participating in rimming, inclusive of homosexuals, bisexuals,
lesbians, trans gender, in simple terms it seemed an attack striking at LGBT across the board, to me.

What I said stripped of the expletives was that everyone ought to use common sense, research the subject
themselves. We do not need or want excessive fear over something which may not require such fear. Yes, I
understand a need of caution in health matters. I also understand a need for each individual to live as they
choose without constant degradation by people acting stupid. I grow very tired of stupidity, not only in sexual
issues but issues such as money, religion, politics, general living.

I still do not apologize for standing against stupidity. I do apologize if this was not the intended message
desired conveyed, or I misread. There is so much stupid in the world at large any more it is often difficult
to discern it from ignorance, or humble earnest communication in good faith. So, if that's the case I
apologize for being harsh in tone.

[sysper]

u got a point after all for the longest time alot of people thought aids was a gay disease when everybody should of reasoned all along it has got an equal chance regardless of sexual orentation, age, race, etc. i do realize rimming can be done safely so that's not my objection to it. i just think it's gross i'd rather lick whatever's on the other side :) but i respect others for liking it. regardless of there sexual orientation.

[void()]

Exactly. I may not like whatever but like something other. My point was not regarding the whatever. It was that someone appeared to be degrading the act and any who did it, using fear.

Want a scary fact? Life kills. That is to say if it lives, it also dies. We all live, we all die. Why have any more fear than needed? Death is a natural part of life, at least so far. Why not let people enjoy the living?

We all deserve that despite what anyone else may say. No one has to fit into anyone else's definition of living, unless they choose to do that. Simply not living according to someone else's definition does not make you wrong, bad, undeserving.

It only makes you different. Difference scares those holding onto an illusion of control. Far better to have everything, everyone, all fully uniform than to have difference, if you want control. So, those looking to have that lash out at different, with fear.

Sorry, fear does not bind me. If I am afraid, I'll go explore what scares me, why, how, then take away its claws and give them back. Once I understand, there is no more fear of what scared me. I can then solve any problems arising from that which scared me, too.

This course of action is called critical thinking, problem solving, common sense. Some even call it learning. I continually try to learn. That way I can maybe make some bearable improvements in life, in my sphere. Not tolerating stupidity, a desire to not learn, is one improvement.

Stupidity seems to create fear like difference. I've already explained how to conquer fear of difference, go learn. Stupidity though is a different creature. It seems infinite in its duplicity and supply. All in all, I think of it as a dead horse. I walk around it, go under it, over it. No point to keep kicking it and expecting different.

It'll be what it'll be. I will too. I can change and do as I learn. That's called adapting and is a key survival resource. Neat, eh? Surviving requires thinking, huh? ;)

But again, I may have misread the intent of what was presented. If I did, I apologize for my tone only. Still not apologizing for bulking at stupidity.

[a2smith09]

Personally I love rimming and being rimmed but I want it squeaky clean fresh from a very thorough bath before my tongue wanders down there.

[lizard-lix]

Personally I love rimming and being rimmed but I want it squeaky clean fresh from a very thorough bath before my tongue wanders down there.

I am 100% right with you.. I love it both ways, but it has to be clean.

As for safety, I am careful with partners, that includes any skin to skin contact, 'nuff said

This is not an LGBT issue, straight people rim too...

As for the rest of this conversation, I agree with void()

[cuttin2dachase]

I've only ever tried rimming and being rimmed twice and it just wasn't for me. Both times my partner was into mutual ass play. I wanted to please him, but I insisted on our taking a nice hot shower together and scrubbing each other "back there" to ensure that we were both very clean. I enjoyed the sensation of having a tongue and fingers licking and probing my anus while another hand fondled and stroked my cock. It felt great ! But it still felt gross and disgusting to me when I rimmed and fingered my partner even knowing he was clean. As another poster said, my mm focus is on the front side of a man, namely his cock, balls, hands and mouth and my cock, balls hands and mouth interacting in so many various ways !

[lizard-lix]

That is the wonderful thing about kinky sex, you get to choose!

[darkeyes]

..only if yas onya own or ya partner/partners r in tune wivya kinks, liz..;)

[lizard-lix]

Very true Dark.. Sadly very true!

Remember I am the one with a 100% vanilla and straight spouse. I've been a good boy and waited 36 years for the play pass and before I got to use it (the fucking SOB I was supposed to hook up with flaked out, I suspect his 'open' marriage is a lie and he is a fucking cheater, since something ALWAYS came up, he apologized and wanted to set up for a quickie in the car in a parking lot or the like), life hit a bump.

I am going in for surgery on Wednesday, so it will be several months til I get to try again.

But, when I do get out, I will get that choice!

[sysper]

sorry it didin't workout that sucks.....or rather doesn't lol. hope the surgery goes well & ur better & ready to go for it. but be greatfull u got someone to come home too. exploring all kinda sex is great & i wish more people explored it.........but there is something much more important.

[darkeyes]

Poor ole liz.. hope life becomes a ball and all bumps r luffly, yummie bumps.. fingies x'd for the surgery and trust it will givya whole new lease of life

[lizard-lix]

Awwwww Thanks @Dark & Sysper.. It's OK, I'll find a replacement for Mr Half Cocked and I'm really only doing the surgery for the good drugs (propofol is awesome!) and to get pampered by the cute nurses of both sexes. LOL

Life goes on and I'm going with it!

[elian]

Some people are very oral, or anal - or both - the only time I would be offended by it is if they were pissed off I didn't react the way they expected me to. In my experience it can lead to other pleasurable things. It doesn't personally appeal to me as a separate act, although in the heat of the moment there may be some licking of anything pleasurable. The only time I really enjoyed it was as lube for what was about to follow and even then IMO lube makes a better lube. I do worry about being clean for my partner but as someone else pointed out there's no such thing as 100% clean. I think folks who like that sort of activity probably don't mind..or maybe you make a bath part of your play. I guess maybe what you are saying is there are guys who seek out dirty partners? People have all sorts of fetishes - just don't expect to kiss me with that mouth..there's someone for everyone I suppose.

[cuttin2dachase]

I have definite aversion to fecal odor and have unwittingly gotten a taste of feces a couple times. Because of that trauma, my mouth and tongue will happily go as far as the base of a man's scrotum or a woman's vulva, but that's as near as they get to someone's perineum or anus. That's sometimes still near enough for my tongue or nose to get a taste or whiff of fecal odor. It's a definite turnoff for me and grosses me out. To me it's just common sense that one should shower/bathe and cleanse one's privates before a date...or even better...take a steamy shower with a sexual partner and bathe each other as part of foreplay. I won't even let a partner rim me unless I know I am thoroughly clean "back there". I have had some men and (women) ask me to not use any deodorant or body spray because they are into a musky smell. I've also had both genders ask me to not shave because they enjoy feeling stubble when I go down on them. But I've never had anyone ask me to not take a shower and be clean for them.

[pepperjack]

While I agree that ingesting fecal matter is a serious hygiene issue, i.e. leading to hepatitis, I have also learned that the human mouth actually contains more bacteria than the anus. I once read that the human bite is so laden with bacteria that it's akin to being " cut with something that's been laying at the bottom of a sewer. " Just my impartial, objective :2cents:

[pole_smoker]

I have definite aversion to fecal odor and have unwittingly gotten a taste of feces a couple times. Because of that trauma, my mouth and tongue will happily go as far as the base of a man's scrotum or a woman's vulva, but that's as near as they get to someone's perineum or anus. That's sometimes still near enough for my tongue or nose to get a taste or whiff of fecal odor. It's a definite turnoff for me and grosses me out. To me it's just common sense that one should shower/bathe and cleanse one's privates before a date...or even better...take a steamy shower with a sexual partner and bathe each other as part of foreplay. I won't even let a partner rim me unless I know I am thoroughly clean "back there". I have had some men and (women) ask me to not use any deodorant or body spray because they are into a musky smell. I've also had both genders ask me to not shave because they enjoy feeling stubble when I go down on them. But I've never had anyone ask me to not take a shower and be clean for them. LMAO!!!!!!!!! I'm not surprised you have tasted actual shit, as you're into scat and it's obvious. :rolleyes: ;)

[lizard-lix]

While I agree that ingesting fecal matter is a serious hygiene issue, i.e. leading to hepatitis, I have also learned that the human mouth actually contains more bacteria than the anus. I once read that the human bite is so laden with bacteria that it's akin to being " cut with something that's been laying at the bottom of a sewer. " Just my impartial, objective :2cents:

Yep! Very true. Which is why if I will kiss someone, as long as they have decent hygiene (and I wouldn't kiss them if they didn't), then rimming, ass licking, analingus is just fine by me!

[void()]

Would I rim someone? If they were relatively clean, as in having showered and prepared for sex, I may. Then again, I may not. It would depend on the moment, the partner/s, the mood/s.

Would i enjoy someone rimming me? Well, let's just repeat the above with me being the one to shower, prepare. I have enjoyed it before, may again. May not, too. See above.

I say relatively clean because granted, no one is ever totally Spic & Span. Kind of akin to no one ever being perfect.

[lizard-lix]

I agree, no one is perfect. And the mouth you kiss could be as germ filled as that ass you kiss! Sex is messy and dirty, that is definitely part of the attraction.

For me it has always been how it feels, and the sound someone makes when you do it to them.

[void()]

... For me it has always been how it feels, and the sound someone makes when you do it to them.

"Oooh, aaah, oooh, aaah ... That's the sound of the man on the chaaain gang ...."

Yep, quite agree the sound of it is rather erotica and sensual, deeply primal. Damn, now I want a steak. Got any Tennessee Walker your way? Nah, scratch that, any Maker's Mark?

[lizard-lix]

Yep, one of the most erotic sounds I know of!

MM, you got me! Steak and Maker's would so hit the spot! (just add a baked potato and some cole slaw).

[void()]

Yep, one of the most erotic sounds I know of!

MM, you got me! Steak and Maker's would so hit the spot! (just add a baked potato and some cole slaw).

Cole slaw? I think you may be sadistic. * grin * I could enjoy a dinner/supper like that.

Nice every now and then to mellow down with a drink or two, good food and company.
Not drank Maker's for quite a while. Probably, not had it since I last had a Dixie beer.

Yep. I need to go back down South again, or would like to, at least. Completely different
rhythm from here, down South. It helps skew perception just so, such ways to let you ...
pause between thoughts long enough to finish one. * grin *

When visiting my dad, enjoyed going out around the home. Would find myself wallowing
in swap with gators. Never really got close enough to scare either the gator or me. Did figure
though on my own, that old Native American tale of rubbing their bellies does work. * chuckles *
They doze right off.

Observation is nice to do. Lets a person kind of sort through a lot. :)

[lizard-lix]

Cole slaw? I think you may be sadistic. * grin * I could enjoy a dinner/supper like that.


Yep, it's our favorite 'Steakhouse dinner.' Steak (usually Rib eye), baked potato with very crisp skin and cole slaw. We used to go to a place in FL where that was the house dinner, and it stuck.

Manhattan, rye or bourbon before (we used to drink scotch, but switching to bourbon in TX was a natural :-)



Nice every now and then to mellow down with a drink or two, good food and company.
Not drank Maker's for quite a while. Probably, not had it since I last had a Dixie beer.


I had some Maker's last weekend, but never Dixie.. We usually drink Shiner (a popular TX brew), or Fireman's 4 (a local microbrew), if I want my tonsils yanked out, I drink Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale (a fine IPA from So, Cal).



Yep. I need to go back down South again, or would like to, at least. Completely different
rhythm from here, down South. It helps skew perception just so, such ways to let you ...
pause between thoughts long enough to finish one. * grin *


That is true, but it is not like it was. Tolerance is at an all time low here. I am both more out (at the club and with my trusted friends), and more closeted (with everything else Texan) than i have ever been.



When visiting my dad, enjoyed going out around the home. Would find myself wallowing
in swap with gators. Never really got close enough to scare either the gator or me. Did figure
though on my own, that old Native American tale of rubbing their bellies does work. * chuckles *
They doze right off.


Wow! I never touched 'em, but I did spend a lot of time very close to gators when I was in FL, not unusual to be within 15' of a 6' or larger one, either on foot on the bank, or in the water with the boat while fishing. We always agreed not to bother each other and went about our ways.



Observation is nice to do. Lets a person kind of sort through a lot. :)


Yes it does... Now I sit in the back yard with the deer wandering through, trickier than the gators, you have to be very unobtrusive or they leave...

But it is fun to walk up to one within touching distance (I can do that on a good day).

[void()]

Yep, it's our favorite 'Steakhouse dinner.' Steak (usually Rib eye), baked potato with very crisp skin and cole slaw. We used to go to a place in FL where that was the house dinner, and it stuck.

Manhattan, rye or bourbon before (we used to drink scotch, but switching to bourbon in TX was a natural :-)


I had some Maker's last weekend, but never Dixie.. We usually drink Shiner (a popular TX brew), or Fireman's 4 (a local microbrew), if I want my tonsils yanked out, I drink Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale (a fine IPA from So, Cal).


That is true, but it is not like it was. Tolerance is at an all time low here. I am both more out (at the club and with my trusted friends), and more closeted (with everything else Texan) than i have ever been.


Wow! I never touched 'em, but I did spend a lot of time very close to gators when I was in FL, not unusual to be within 15' of a 6' or larger one, either on foot on the bank, or in the water with the boat while fishing. We always agreed not to bother each other and went about our ways.


Yes it does... Now I sit in the back yard with the deer wandering through, trickier than the gators, you have to be very unobtrusive or they leave...

But it is fun to walk up to one within touching distance (I can do that on a good day).


Yep, it's our favorite 'Steakhouse dinner.' Steak (usually Rib eye), baked potato with very crisp skin and cole slaw. We used to go to a place in FL where that was the house dinner, and it stuck.
Manhattan, rye or bourbon before (we used to drink scotch, but switching to bourbon in TX was a natural :-)
I had some Maker's last weekend, but never Dixie.. We usually drink Shiner (a popular TX brew), or Fireman's 4 (a local microbrew), if I want my tonsils yanked out, I drink Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale (a fine IPA from So, Cal).

All of this sounds delicious. I genuinely may as well be completely dry though, for as little as I do manage to drink now. Keep threatening the wife to go the sure fire route for disability, "hon, I'll be a boozer and get disability to sit around and drink all the time." Kid you not, we know a few that have only that as rationale for their condition. Funny as a pile of manure but true as that as well. Then, here I am with some nerve trouble what causes me involuntary spasms at random. I punch myself for no good reason, out of the blue, or slap myself. I've ruined keyboards because a hand holding a coffee cup decided to fling the cup, coffee and all across the room. *LOL* Funny to tell, kind of scary to live with it.



That is true, but it is not like it was. Tolerance is at an all time low here. I am both more out (at the club and with my trusted friends), and more closeted (with everything else Texan) than i have ever been.

Know a fellow who moved from GA to CA. Let me say he had a legal need to move. What that legality involved was/is a bunch of crap to say the least. He had made a particular comment about the quality of someone's work. Suffice it they took it unprofessionally & it got rather nasty for his wife, who worked alongside their spouse. At which point this guy made a rather choice observation internally, told his wife to pack if she did not want to see him in jail.

Once had a discussion regarding givers and takers with a friend. Seems we also have another type out there, pushers. These aren't the pushers shoving good drugs off on you either. Guess stupid lives to its namesake and never learns. There are some dogs who if you see them at all, you better know to leave them alone, period. But no, we got stupid pushers who seem to think everything is all their own, just push and take. That is not saying I'm the sort what needs to own a thing. There are though certain unspoken, unwritten things just not done.

This friend now, in CA says the laws and policies there are just as bad as GA. Recall being taught you do not stop for police in GA, lest you want busted up, or worse. If you do need to stop, you get out the auto slowly, hands above head and interlace, lie flat on your belly on the ground. You speak only when spoke to, if required. Then, it's cool and calm yes sir/mam, no sir,am all the way. Do not give them any hint of an excuse. Don't even breathe wrong. Now, I comprehend being a police officer is dangerous. Fine. Well, why did you sign up for it knowing it is dangerous? That was always the Catch 22 in the Navy, anyway ... "Ha! You volunteered, no boo hooing!"

Do not know anymore. Have a neighbor who is still in the Army. He's one of those sort what vanishes at times, at times stands right beside you unseen, unheard, unnoticed. *grins* He picks on me, keeping me awake. Not sure it's worth being awake and seeing the world o' shit we have coming. Sometimes better to be a dummy, know nothing.


Yes it does... Now I sit in the back yard with the deer wandering through, trickier than the gators, you have to be very unobtrusive or they leave...
But it is fun to walk up to one within touching distance (I can do that on a good day).

Sounds like you have quality fun. :) I used to do that with deer in the wild, in the woods. It was an experience, then even more so when one turned out to be a button buck. Whew, boy! Let me tell you, I never climbed a little scrawny tree so fast in my life. *chuckles* Tapped his nose, next I know got thrown five yards, scurrying to get up before he hit again. *lol* Fortunately my uncle saw me dangling from the tree top. He plunked that fellow with a spreading broad head. I got a blank stare from my grandfather over that, a sigh and him moving on. My uncle's comment was, "will you look at that Pap, boy figured out a new way for us to hunt." Pap was not amused. Pap saw nothing funny in it. Pap just as well have beaten me to within an inch of my life. *lol*